Building my render/gaming rig. - Advices needed

[Tenshi]

Hi guys,

I need an advice for my future gaming/render rig. Recently i read a lot of bad feedback for the motherboard i wanna buy, and i need a more realistic approach and comments, this will help me decide. I don't know a lot of computers just the basics, don't plan to overclocked the system and such, just connected the devices and start working/playing.

I plan to buy this:

-Crosshair V Formula/ThunderBolt
-Corsair Vengeance® — 16GB Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit
-AMD FX-8150 FX 8-Core Black Edition Processor

I already have an nvidia 470GTX(which sometime in the future i will change for their warm up issues ._.) but for now i will stay with that. The machine will be use as a decent workstation, for playing games, make 3D renders, and design work.

So what do you think? I mostly need advices if any of those components will gave me troubles(hardware/software) and how to solve them.
Aside of that if do you think i will need a water cooling solution for any of those?
and at last, i read a lot of bad comments for buying that motherboard, mostly for manufacturer issues. Those are true? i mean there's a % of damaged hardware, but if there's more people complaining is ..because something is happening; so what are your thoughts.

I really appreciate your feedback guys, thanks a lot!

Tenshi.

[HiVizMan]

If the thunderbolt is a critical part of your set up then good, otherwise loose it. Not a fan do not like it and would not ever suggest that someone buy that combo. :)

For rendering the 8150 is great and you will be pleased with it.

The board is seriously a great board, the reason you hear problems is because the only time folks post on a support forum is because they need help. And from the few times I have helped I would say a fair proportion of those issues were self inflicted. The Thunderbolt I do not like. So get the version without one if it is cheaper.

[chrsplmr]

HiVizMan == ThankYou as always for your honesty .. and of course expert advice.
We dont always have to like the answers we get, but we Always have
to know it is the truth as you believe it ... and we do.
You may be an Asus 'FanMan'...but you wont drink the KoolAide.cudos.

OP: You cant go wrong with the CrossHair V -- yes, I am bias.
I am leaving my wife for mine.

Removed at request of members due to OTT:cool: <<<<<<< What does this mean ? OTT ?
Which Members ? Were they stoned ? hahahahhaa Wuz ur 'Thing' too big to fit ??? ahhahahaa
Well...thats not the first time you heard that....hahahaha.c.

[HiVizMan]

LOL Chris - I got a couple of requests asking me to make the image a bit smaller due to a concern it would distract from the content. Will get it resized when next DC is online.

[Tenshi]

Oh lord, i didn't knew the reply would be so fast, thank you thank you thank you! :)

So, HiVizMan, i just wanna say thanks, i really appreciate your thoughts, today i was planning what i can do.
My budget is: $800 and i don't wanna waste in something doesn't work or give me troubles, so i think i'm more calm now.

I didn't knew the thunderbolt itself, was the problem; in fact i thought it would be the best; and No., the thunderbolt is not part of the thing i need for my work; sound like a nice feature but well... i prefer to omit that piece.

Have 4 more question.
- The version without the thunderbolt, have exactly the same specs, right?
- The case i have already is an Sentey Arvina GS-6400, you think there would be a problem of size and such(a video here http://youtu.be/JvsL40VJ6T8)
- The motherboard itself support FX-8150 right out of the BOX? Or i need another processor, install it, update the bios, and then put the fx-8150 on it?
- Another thing i hear a lot and read(in amazon for example) is that, it has manufacturer issues and the board always are damaged ._.

You know, i'm afraid to spent a lot on the board; i'm not from usa, i'm from ecuador; and if thats the case i will need a refund and send the device back and blablabla more money, money that i don't have. So i wanna be sure of all of this.
Like i said before, theres always a dead on arrival issue; not everything is perfect, but in general terms everything is fine?

If i buy this, this would be my rig:

-Asus Crosshair V Formula
-Corsair Vengeance® — 16GB Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit
-AMD FX-8150 FX 8-Core Black Edition Processor
-Corsair Professional Series™ Gold AX850 Fully-Modular Power Supply
-PNY Geforce GTX470
-Samsung 500GB HD502HJ

Thanks a lot! after these questions i'll be more confident. =D need this machine in less than 3 weeks ;)

Tenshi.

[HiVizMan]

I would look at some other ram options since you are going AMD - the vengeance range have not filled me with joy to date. But many many people are happy with them.

Other than that it is looking good.

[Tenshi]

I would look at some other ram options since you are going AMD - the vengeance range have not filled me with joy to date. But many many people are happy with them.

Other than that it is looking good.

Hi, yes i was looking out for some other options, the thing is that, i only saw in the compatibility memory list, the board supports 16GB on Corsair; and i've been reading it's very picky on that side and need to buy no other than from that list.
And please, please.. read my questions above, those are my doubts about this rig.

so.. what do i do?

[HiVizMan]

Have 4 more question.
- The version without the thunderbolt, have exactly the same specs, right?
- The case i have already is an Sentey Arvina GS-6400, you think there would be a problem of size and such(a video here http://youtu.be/JvsL40VJ6T8) No problem your case can handle a E-ATX
- The motherboard itself support FX-8150 right out of the BOX? Or i need another processor, install it, update the bios, and then put the fx-8150 on it? All depends when the motherboard was boxed, but three months has passes so new BIOS should be standard. Maybe better to buy local? OR contact the retailer in USA you are buying from and ask them to make sure.
- Another thing i hear a lot and read(in amazon for example) is that, it has manufacturer issues and the board always are damaged ._. I would suggest buying from a local vendor even if you have to pay more - that way you can take away two of your four questions as possible problem areas.



I do not know much about ASUS in Ecuador so not rally able to point you in the right direction.

[Tenshi]

I do not know much about ASUS in Ecuador so not rally able to point you in the right direction.

Thanks a lot for the info!.
It doesnt matter if i have to switch a little minutes the processor, right now i have a phenomII x3; so i could update the bios(if i needed) and then put the FX on it.
Asus Ecuador, does not exist, don't worry; and about a local vendor, that is kinda hard to find, in fact no one bothers to import this motherboard because of the bad feedback, but i wanna give it a try.., so wish me luck.
All the stuff i wanna buy i had to import it, people here is a... c*#&%! all the things they buy is old and people usually believes is the best in the market. =/

I recently read like 30 reviews on amazon, most of them are from 2011, and receive 4to5 stars, good recommendations, etc; few guys didn't have lucky, so.. is not a bad motherboard after all.

Thanks for the reply, i really really appreciate; i'm decided now =D at my own risk. And if i have troubles with the settings of the UEFI and such, i'll post those here.

Tenshi.

[trailer park boy]

Hi, yes i was looking out for some other options, the thing is that, i only saw in the compatibility memory list, the board supports 16GB on Corsair; and i've been reading it's very picky on that side and need to buy no other than from that list.
And please, please.. read my questions above, those are my doubts about this rig.

so.. what do i do?
i've used gskill for 3 different rigs now with good reults try these GSKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL 4x4gb its in the QVL from ASUS support

[Tenshi]

i've used gskill for 3 different rigs now with good reults try these GSKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL 4x4gb its in the QVL from ASUS support

Thanks! I'll check the price and more info about it.

[jd2266]

i've used gskill for 3 different rigs now with good reults try these GSKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL 4x4gb its in the QVL from ASUS support

i also use g skill .very good ram as long as it is listed in the qvl list.

[Area 66]

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I am leaving my wife for mine.

Come on, your wife leave you to come leave with me. Ménage à trois

[Tenshi]

i also use g skill .very good ram as long as it is listed in the qvl list.
I think i stick with corsair for now, if something goes wrong i'll put a gun in my head. :cool:

[Tenshi]

Hey fellow ninjas!

I already have the 3 computer parts at home, i'm kinda happy xD maybe today or tomorrow i will began with the system installation, hope it doesn't give me a lot of troubles. i'll post an updated if i need help from you guys
the Formula V is so beautiful.. :rolleyes:

[chrsplmr]

Tenshi ... "the Formula V is so beautiful.. :rolleyes: "
They do seduce.

You wont have any issue .. just be patient with yourself and
dont get ahead of yourself ... sometimes they like to be massaged first .. hehehe
we will be right here .. just whistle.... posting is quicker though.c.

[Tenshi]

chrsplmr , haha, your right sir, Formula V is soooo sexy =D
So, i'm almost ready to install windows, but i have a few questions before i send the elf to destroy it.

-I read that, i need to deactivate some options in the bios that are a pain in the a... so i can continue installation or something like that.
-Another will be if i need to Update the bios. Somebody mention that depends on the version of the motherboard, can you explain me that part, please. What do i need to look in the motherboard before install it?

[Henkenator68NL]

Hello Tenshi!

Good to see you also joined the Crosshair V Formula Club :D

If you really do a lot of designing and rendering on your system I think a key component is missing: An SSD
Using the SSD to install your OS and Video/photo Editing Software and other frequently used programs.
You will benefit from the SSD not just because it boots so fast (you dont even have time to get a cup of coffee), but when rendering your system wil be able to do that a lot faster than on a normal HDD.

I have 2 SSD's in RAID0 both 120 Gb, but even with OS and lot of Software its quite easy to keep it Arround 100 Gb. So a 120 Gb SSD would suffice. Choose one that support the 6 Gb Sata connection to get optimum speed. Which Brand?? So many people so many choices .. But look at Read/Write speeds compared to price range. Intel, OCZ, Adata are just a few possibilities.

Maybe you already know al this, but if not now you do!
Greetings

[Tenshi]

Henkenator68NL, thanks for the suggestion! I knew a lot about SSD. =D I will upgrade sometime in the future.

[Tenshi]

Hi again guys, i have some doubts. When i install win7 from the disk, its important i have a wire keyboard connected, i mean i have a cordless logitech mx5500, and i'm reading that formula has some troubles detecting the ports and stuff, Do i need one normal keyboard at least at the beginning of the installation?

[HiVizMan]

Nah I install with a wireless mouse and keyboard combo all the time.

[Tenshi]

HiVizMan, thanks!!!
Oh, and the stuff i need to deactivate in the bios at first?

[Tenshi]

here again, i saw my motherboard revision an its 1.01. That means i need to update the bios? im kinda new on this stuff, i download everything from the asus page, from audio to lan drivers, the bios comes with an extension .rom. how i install that?

[Tenshi]

i wanna be ready if something happen and dont work as it should, so guys, how do i update the bios from the usb before installing win7? i download every file in the asus page, and the last bios is 1301, the Rom File, how do i use it, just copy the rom file? do i need to format the usb as fat32? im sorry im newbie at this.

[Henkenator68NL]

Tenshi,

Check this site : http://www.wintobootic.com/

Read how to make usb stick bootable.

If USB is bootable, copy the bios ( = the .ROM file) to the USB device

Stick usb in you're new systeem

Boot Up, Hit Delete to get in BIOS setup screen
Go to Tool Tab
Select Asus Easy Flash 2 Utility
Press Tab to go to Drive Field
Use Up / Down keys to find you're usb (just created bootable usb device)
Press Tab to go to Folder Field
Select the BIOS file you copied onto it
Press Enter
Wait till its Finished
Reboot
Taddaaaaaaaa
you're done

[Tenshi]

hi again guys. Im using a corsair AX850, im trying to connect the EATX12v, but i dont find any cable that matches with the motherboard, only one 4pin connector. Does anybody hav used it before? or i need to buy another cable?

[Tenshi]

hi again. i power on but it doesnt start

[Tenshi]

ok i manage to power on, now the revision is 1003. and the prog v is v2.00.1201
Do i need to update the bios for the 16gb corsair ram? in the bios or by windows.

[Tenshi]

here again, i noticed it reads perfectly the fx8150, and the 16gb ram at 1333mhz, its oh right then?
i dont want to overclock anything just stay with the stock. i dont have either the system prepared for OC.
build date: 11-24-2011

I just have one problem the boot device Led is Red. I have 2 HDD, one of 500GB samsung, and another seagate 160Gb. How is the order i need to connect those devices?? I noticed the 500GB(where i plan to install win) is not registered, how do i connect that?

Current CPU Speed: 3600MHZ
Target CPU Speed: 3600 MHZ
Current Memory Frequency: 1333MHZ
Current NB Frequency: 2200 MHZ
Current HT Link Speed: 2600 MHZ

Vcore Voltage: +1.38V
3.3V Voltage: +3.312V
5v Voltage: +4.950V
12V Volgate: +12.097V
VDDA2.5 V : +2.520 V
CPU/NB Voltage: +1.164 V
DRAM Voltage: +1.528 V
HT Voltage: +1.217 V
NB Voltage: +1.118 V
SB Voltage: +1.105 V

Cpu Temperature: +43´C/+109´F
MB Temperature: +37´C/+98´F
CPU FAN: 4821 RPM

-Those readings are ok?

Another question. I think my others Serial Ata are not recognized, those are from the front panel. How i connected those?

- and the last one for now, how/where i connected the VCC Data+ - GND , in the Formula?

[HiVizMan]

What I would do is this.

Before I install my OS I only have the hard drive that the OS will be installed on connected. Just the OS drive.

Once I have done my install then I add the other hard drives. That what the BIOS does not get confused. :)

[Tenshi]

Thanks Hivizman!!! ill do that and then i add the other devices, xD but please dont go anywhere my friend, im new to this and its nice to learn this stuff with supporting guys like you teaching. :)
Oh about my other questions, temperature, VCC? Bios? Please :rolleyes:

[HiVizMan]

Tenshi I will be around for the next four or five hours still - busy watching football tonight and the PC is next to me. So no problem my friend.

As to your other questions er this thread has got quite long, do you mind just asking them again. That way I do not have to read four pages again. Sorry for being lazy. :p

[Area 66]

Oh about my other questions, temperature, VCC? Bios? Please :rolleyes:

your temp are ok, they will lower once you install Windows as the power management will kick in

[Tenshi]

your temp are ok, they will lower once you install Windows as the power management will kick in

Thanks!!! fiuuu one less problem xD, i was so nervous, i heard the fan a little lowder, i didnt know thats default.

[Tenshi]

Tenshi I will be around for the next four or five hours still - busy watching football tonight and the PC is next to me. So no problem my friend.

As to your other questions er this thread has got quite long, do you mind just asking them again. That way I do not have to read four pages again. Sorry for being lazy. :p

haha xD dont worry. Ok.

1st Question.
I just want to know if i.ll need to update the bios

My revision is 1003. and the prog v is v2.00.1201. You think i need to upgrade the BIOS after installing win7?

[Area 66]

I run on the 1102 bios and it work very well

[Henkenator68NL]

Update the bios before you install the OS. thats by far the easiest way. Than install OS with only the HDD that is going to contain the OS.

[Tenshi]

I run on the 1102 bios and it work very well
Oh, let me check if its the correct number.... hold...


Update the bios before you install the OS. thats by far the easiest way. Than install OS with only the HDD that is going to contain the OS.
Ok, ill do that, but before theres a way i could backup the bios?
I formatted a pendrive as Fat32. Inside there is the .ROM file.

[HiVizMan]

If it aint broke why fix it? What I mean by that is if the current BIOS works fine why upadte? If you have never used the BIOS and this is a first install then update before your install OS. Does not make much different anyhow.

Updating BIOS just for the sake of having the latest BIOS does not always make sense, at least to me.

[Area 66]

Updating BIOS just for the sake of having the latest BIOS does not always make sense, at least to me.

it's not me who supposed to say this ?

[Tenshi]

If it aint broke why fix it? What I mean by that is if the current BIOS works fine why upadte? If you have never used the BIOS and this is a first install then update before your install OS. Does not make much different anyhow.

Updating BIOS just for the sake of having the latest BIOS does not always make sense, at least to me.

Well, if you think that, you have more experience with this than me, but i was just saying not for the sake of see the last number, is just for i dont know future troubles with devices and stuff like that. And no, i just power on to see the bios version, i havent modified anything or save a profile. Does that count?

[HiVizMan]

it's not me who supposed to say this ?

LOL what can I say when your are right you are right - but seriously the idea that the latest drivers or bios are always better is not always accurate.

[Area 66]

LOL what can I say when your are right you are right - but seriously the idea that the latest drivers or bios are always better is not always accurate.

this is why I ask to someone who just post a link to a new BIOS " What they have change" I run my Crosshair on the 1102, because that was the one available when I get it, I just place a 1090t in to update to the 1102 because I need support for the FX , it'S run fine on it since few months, why should I update ? Same with my MIVE I thin I run on the first BIOS release.....
here a screen I just take lol....
lol....look at the BIOS I run my MIVE.

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/bioss.jpg

[Tenshi]

So the advice your giving me, is.. not updating? really.. i mean for the future is not good to do it right now? or better i wait for a future upgrade and continue with the OS installation?

[Area 66]

wait to have a problem to fix it, go ahead put me an OS in this rig and take a pic after .....

[Tenshi]

haha oh right guys!! Lets do this! :cool:
just need to fix the hdd trouble and we,re ready to go! (hate writing from the laptop)

[Tenshi]

wait to have a problem to fix it, go ahead put me an OS in this rig and take a pic after .....

that must wait i guess )=

guys i cant pass that Red Light from the devices, i just connected the DVD and its working, the other serial ata connected to the 500gb samsung, dont read the device. dont have any other device connected. only those.
Thats where i had win7 32installed, do i need to format in another computer? i planned to do that before installing win7 ._. Any idea?

[jd2266]

i also used g skill on my build.running great:D

[Myk SilentShadow]

lmao!!! yeah guys, Tenshi *does* need to update his BIOS to get his FX 8150 running :p

[Area 66]

lmao!!! yeah guys, Tenshi *does* need to update his BIOS to get his FX 8150 running :p

wrong. Tenshi already as the 1003 bios and the FX-8150 need the 0183 and up, please check what the OP post before and refer to the Asus website

[Tenshi]

im desperate here, i supposed after power on everything will be fine but... now i dont know -_-.
The other HDD Seagate 160gb did work, but i dont plan to install there. So, what are my choices now? i need this machine up and running .-. need to work, damn it...
Ill try switching cables, i,m using the ones that came with the motherboard...

[Tenshi]

wrong. Tenshi already as the 1003 bios and the FX-8150 need the 0183 and up, please check what the OP post before and refer to the Asus website

Indeed, everything is working smoothly at bios Less the HDD, but damn is like crushing with an invisible wall and in front of you, you see the paradise. ._. help me guys...

[Area 66]

Are you sure the 500 GB is not working ? if you go in advance mode in the BIOS, in the section boot, under hard drive BBS priorities , did you see the 500 gb ? , make sure to install only the 500 gb .... if you 500 don't work and you don't want to use a 160, the only option is to buy a new HD, if you ask me, I never use a used drive in a new build.

[Tenshi]

Are you sure the 500 GB is not working ? if you go in advance mode in the BIOS, in the section boot, under hard drive BBS priorities , did you see the 500 gb ? , make sure to install only the 500 gb ....

yes is not there, only the dvd appears. And its absurd if days ago i power off my old computer and put the new parts. In fact i havent even move the hdd. I only have the dvd and the 500gb connected to the first row serial ata ports. The red light is there shining...

[Area 66]

Is this drive was in raid in the old system ?

[Tenshi]

Is this drive was in raid in the old system ?

Dont understand that.. In raid?

Guys really, i dont know what to do right now, its weird. The HDD is not working, and i dont think its the cable i use the one that comes with the corsair 850, one cable that has to power ata connector, i connect the other HDD(160gb) and works good and its much older hdd... Only the dvd drive is detected.

[Tenshi]

hey! after a long try and error, i managed to see the 500gb HDD, BUT without connecting the dvd and The RED LIGHT is there..even if the HDD worked, so.. now i´ll try connecting in different ports, if not, i´ll try as media serial ata?

what do i do with the red light?

Update: i managed to se the HDD and dvd. i connected the HDD to the Asmedia port, and the dvd to the serial ata, only those. But i still see the red Light. Now i have to options: a) install win7 without caring about the red light b) updating the bios will fix this? T.T dont know what to do guys, someone...

[DarthBeavis]

Install the OS, go to device manager once installed and see if there are any exclamation marks next to devices

[Tenshi]

Install the OS, go to device manager once installed and see if there are any exclamation marks next to devices

Hmm, ok. Thanks for the advice, ill do that. Does this mean that maybe i need to update the bios. Someone here told me is better to do before installing the OS.

Update: I install windows successfully im gonna keep updating windows, and installing all the software needed. The Red Light is gone now, but there are some devices i havent connected yet. The other HDD, the VCC data+-, and 2 more serial ata, are not connected yet. I´ll post an update tomorrow to see how its going.

Thanks the wonderful guys in this forum that helped me through this adventure, everything i learn here i´ll share with people that having the same troubles. Oh ill post pictures too :D Dont worry jaja

[Tenshi]

Hi again guys i'm getting this temperatures and the CPU fan i think it's very noise, that's normal and the RPM too?

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/4149/pic02f.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/pic02f.png/)

[ColonelS]

So all is well? Anymore issue that we can provide? Sorry >< was busy cleaning up the forums and just saw your pm.

[MarshallR@ASUS]

Yea that CPU fan speed is crazy! Can you use Fan Xpert to lower the speed? Or, go into the BIOS and set the profile to 'silent'

[Tenshi]

So all is well? Anymore issue that we can provide? Sorry >< was busy cleaning up the forums and just saw your pm.

Yes i have a few questions, thanks for being here helping.
1. There's a way i could save all the info that the bios provide me, so i can upload here and you guys tell me what it's wrong and need to fix it, i think some numbers are wrong, as well some settings. Or there's a way to put them at default.


Yea that CPU fan speed is crazy! Can you use Fan Xpert to lower the speed? Or, go into the BIOS and set the profile to 'silent'
Yes please tell me where i can download Fan Expert, and i'll try now the bios option.

Update: where's the "Silent" option, or where i can set that, i was looking the Fan Control Options there and nothing..
I download the Asus Fan Expert, and it says that it doesn't support the board. ._. . So what i do?

Update2: Ok, i did it, i used the silent setting,everything is

Btw i update the Bios to the last one 1301.
(thanks for soon reply)

[DarthBeavis]

It depends on your CPU cooler, For your cooler those temps are okay. I normally use a more robust cooling solution

[Tenshi]

It depends on your CPU cooler, For your cooler those temps are okay. I normally use a more robust cooling solution
Yes i plan to use the best corsair i could find, it's a list of other stuff i need to buy in a few months(I'll post here so you can guide me too =D), i don't plan to stick with the stock coolers, neither for the gpu and the cpu, but for now i want everything almost stable, to work in some 3D stuff.

This are my new temps(can i make the images smaller? or put only the direct links, don't want to kill people eyes with so much red)

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/2742/pic04.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/pic04.png/)
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/7686/pic03yg.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/pic03yg.png/)

I really want to make some stressfull test, for the Ram, cpu and Gpu. Can you recommend me a good software for that? So after that i upload the data and you see if there's a problem. Maybe voltages with ram/cpu, or the gpu.
(hate to bother people, but i'm learning...thanks in adv)

[Tenshi]

Guys Hello Again!
Please can someone check out my CPU-ID Report? I think a lot of data are wrong. I added as attachment.
The memory frequency and timing i think it's wrong. Can someone help me?

[HiVizMan]

I am not sure what you mean about things being wrong. Your CPU is at 3.9GHz so not sure what more you want from that setting.

[Tenshi]

I am not sure what you mean about things being wrong. Your CPU is at 3.9GHz so not sure what more you want from that setting.

HiVizMan!!! Thanks for the input; but i didn't know that. Have a few more questions:

-1)Ram are ok? I mean do i need to put those corsair at 1600 or 1333 as the QVL says?
-2)About Dram command rate. 1T or 2T?
-3)Heat is ok in general? There's a way to see the heat from the Ram?
-4) In my last computer, the lan cable on the back of the case always were "green", but now its "orange", that's ok? I was looking in the manual but i didn't find anything related.

[HiVizMan]

LOL

Your system is peachy just relax and enjoy it.

[chrsplmr]

Tenshi ... Congrats ... This is an awesome thread .. you and those that have helped have
left no ROG unturned ... every conceivable angle has been disected ... accept it ... that thing ROGz.
And HiViz said it best ..
It is indeed peachy ... enjoy it ... Let the ROG Begin.c.

[ravfour22]

Hi, yes i was looking out for some other options, the thing is that, i only saw in the compatibility memory list, the board supports 16GB on Corsair; and i've been reading it's very picky on that side and need to buy no other than from that list.
And please, please.. read my questions above, those are my doubts about this rig.

so.. what do i do?

Hi, Tenshi..
I have almost the same setup, if you are looking for good ram you can't go wrong with Corsair Dominator 1866 2X4 Gig Set, Also comes with the Cooling fans for on top.. Low voltage and great timing. If you need the 16 gig setup then buy 2 sets, I use photoshop, cad, and play several games Bf3, Dirt 3, Call of duty 4, and I only use 8gig of ram, never had a issue, I would try a bigger hard drive though, maybe a western digital 1 Tb black editon. solid drive.
Hope this helps. not sure if you have already baught all your parts yet.

[Tenshi]

Hello Guys again. I'm back with a few questions.

I cleaned my Cpu once again, applied thermal paste(artic mx-4) and i've been testing my pc, is doing good until i began to recieve some Warning messages that are freaking me out, i don't know why now it's putting those messages, the first time i installed the CPU doesnt give me those troubles. Like always i use the "drop" in center method to apply thermal paste, and the cooler do the rest. Then the UEFi gave me a message "New CPU installed,... " yes or no. And i applied all default settings, i just change the Fan Cooler from Disabled to Silent. Nothing more.

After that i began seeing videos on internet and saw a increment on temperature, which is weird, from 44 to 49. And then all those messages. Why is that? How can i fix it? And now i don't see the MemoryRam installed but in my "system" i see 16gb Installed. :S

[Tenshi]

Update: I turn off everything, and took away the Dimms, and put it on again. Now i don't get that problem, but my main problem now is the CPU.

Before this i could play BF3, without any trouble, but now i don't know what happen, but i get 60C dregrees when i open the game, in no more than 2 minutes of gaming and it tops the 60c, 61 is the max recommended for the Fx-8150, right? I re-applied new thermal paste, drop in the center the cooler do the rest, etc. =/ but i get almost the same temps.
Yes i know i need a better fan cooler for the CPU and the case(soon pictures), but as i said before i didn't have this troubles. Do i need to do anything more? Voltage? or something.. so many options and maybe some of them are wrong. Dont know, help me guys.

So i can't play anygame no more, i don't wanna know when i need to do 3d renders... )=

At the future i plan to buy a corsair h80. That would help a lot right?

[kkn]

how mutch paste do you put on?
what ive been told to do is put a lill in the center of the cpu.

[chrsplmr]

Tenshi ... download and run SpeedFan ... and see what your 'real' temps are ..

(artic silver white -- put on a bead and spread it evenly in both directions with a bus.card.).c.

[Tenshi]

So here we go again...

Hi guys, what's up! Well, let me introduce my rig, i know it's a little messy inside and i Tried to "hide" some cables, but not every is possible; sorry for my english, too. I know that my case is not well ventilated from the right side. I'm sorry for the bad cellphone quality, too.

My rig:

-Case Sentey Arvina GS-6400
-AMD FX-8150
-Crosshair Formula V
-4x4gb Corsair Vengeance
-Pny geforce 470gtx + Gelid Icy vision rev2
-Samsung 500gb + barracuda 160gb

Pics

http://imageshack.us/a/img152/6112/fotoscompuactu27.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/152/fotoscompuactu27.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img528/8923/fotoscompuactu26.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/528/fotoscompuactu26.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img145/1521/fotoscompuactu41.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/145/fotoscompuactu41.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img854/5348/fotoscompuactu36.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/fotoscompuactu36.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img685/7516/fotoscompuactu35.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/fotoscompuactu35.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img41/3637/mipcconectada12.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/mipcconectada12.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img835/4349/mipcconectada7.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/mipcconectada7.jpg/)

My Temps

http://imageshack.us/a/img705/9853/cpu02.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/cpu02.png/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img846/9411/cpu01.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/cpu01.png/)


I have few questions, but the FIRST one, is... CPU Cooler.

A few days ago i bought a Corsair A50, without investigating much(my bad -_-), i just read a few reviews and every one said it work good with amd motherboard. I didn't have a lot of money, so i though it was a well investment; but yesterday when i tried to put the cooler, oops, the 1st and 2nd Corsair Vengeance slot interfere with the fan and the cooler itself, so i was like :eek: then :mad: and then.. :( i was to disappointed that my money was.. well know..

So i think possible and crazy solutions...

a) change 2 memory sticks for low profile ram.
b) take away the 2 heatsinks of the 1st/2nd vengeance, order low profile heatsinks and paste again those on the vengeance, so the height don't bother me...
c) buy 4x4gb low profile corsair memories )= without those heatsinks
d) sell the corsair a50, look out for more money and buy a water cooler solution...(-_- i dont have money now!)
e) make a special metal bracket to change the "intel way" direction of the A50 on my formula v.

Yes, i know.. those are crazy and stupid ideas... but i just want to know, if someone else tried this setup before, i Need help, i'm desperate... my money is on that gigantic sh... i can't use )= or I can?

I contact Myk SilentShadow, who i saw had almost the same setup; he has G.Skill with heatsinks kinda equal to Vengeance... but i really don't know how to use the cooler. Amd has different design than Intel, so...
Horizontal or Vertical? )=

Corsair PDF about AMD installation
http://www.corsair.com/en/media/cms/manual/Corsair_A70-A50_Mounting_Information_-AMD.pdf
Video from youtube..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vatz9O089rQ

Here some pics of my version, look that the 2nd slot interfere a lot, imagine the 1st one, it's impossible...

http://imageshack.us/a/img713/2450/corsaira509.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/corsaira509.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img411/3958/20121002162547.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/411/20121002162547.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img35/996/mipcconectada3.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/mipcconectada3.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img18/3594/mipcconectada5.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/mipcconectada5.jpg/)

[Myk SilentShadow]

Hey mate, sorry for the huge delay in reply.

1st. I thought your RAM was the same height as mine - it's not unfortunately. Your best bet, would be to either remove the heatsinks from the first 2 modules(only if the circulation is good in your case and you're not overclocking) or you can see if you can return the RAM and get lower profile RAM. The heatsinks on my GSkill pretty much just wrap around the RAM so they don't stick up.

2nd. In the bottom picture of the post above mine, you have the cooler setup sitting correctly. Now all you need to do is use the big "D" looking piece of metal with the two bits hanging off either side. It needs to sit upside down, so the curve sits inside the groove between the fans and the pipes. When you fasten the latch in place...you must be very careful and gentle when you lock it down, otherwise you *could* potentially crack the CPU. I know, I did it years ago with one of my PC's...luckily the techs I took my rig to figure out why it wasn't working figured the motherboard killed the CPU...so I got a free replacement :p :cool:


Btw I hate with a complete disdain the "D" Latch method of clipping down the Cooler...AMD reaaaaaally needs to come up with a better mechanism. Every time I work on an AMD system and have to lock down the CPU Cooler I nearly $h1t my pants in fear that i'm gonna damage the CPU.

[Tenshi]

Hey mate, sorry for the huge delay in reply.

Don't worry for replying late. :D

[QUOTE]Your best bet, would be to either remove the heatsinks from the first 2 modules(only if the circulation is good in your case and you're not overclocking) or you can see if you can return the RAM and get lower profile RAM.

Returning is something i think i can't do, i'll try but i think the time from returning it's over; but if i could(miracle), would this low profile 4x4gb modules would work with the Crosshair Formula V? And btw i don't overclock anything so..
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Profile-1600mhz-PC3-12800/dp/B0058J1QII/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header

The second choice i think would be the only thing i can do now; but that gave me more questions, hope you or someone can help me here.

1) If i a remove gently the heatsinks from the modules nothing will happen right?
2) There is any brand in the market that sell Ram Heatsinks?
3) I was looking around ebay for heatsinks, i found many with brands unknown, in two materials: Aluminum and Copper. So what do you think would be the wise choice to buy? What material is better for my ram safety?


..you must be very careful and gentle when you lock it down, otherwise you *could* potentially crack the CPU. I know, I did it years ago with one of my PC's...luckily the techs I took my rig to figure out why it wasn't working figured the motherboard killed the CPU...so I got a free replacement :p :cool:

haha, thanks for the advice, but xD now i'm scared. Really i could damaged my cpu? O_O , i always try to do it gently but for example the default stock cooler well it's kinda hard to install at first; but this A50 seems a little more easy, it is?.. when you use the "D" bracket? (which i hate too! Why in the...h... corsair didn't come out with a better solution)

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I have a few more questions, i plan to renew my default case fans and trying to maintain the aesthetics(blue leds) , because i think those aren't helping me with the airflow, maybe the ones that came has low RPM, because i don't feel to much aire at the back, front, etc. The ones that came are:
2 80mm
1 120mm (back)
2 120mm (top)
1 140mm (front)

Could someone recommend me the best brand out there for fans with good quality/low noise/airflow., and blue leds, too haha. 1200 rpm, 1600, 2000rpm?

Thanks!

[Zygomorphic]

Disclaimer: I have no experience in this field.
Removing heatsinks may be possible, if you are careful.
Copper is a better heat conductor, so that is likely the better choice.

[Myk SilentShadow]

Yes mate, those modules will fit perfectly if you are unable to return the ones you currently have. And I would have to agree with Zygomorphic, Copper is a better conductor of heat. You can't blame Corsair for the D Latch locking mechanism, it's AMD entirely since they are the ones who create the sockets and the system used to lock the fans into place, P.I.T.A I know. And yeah, maybe I shouldn't have told you about the possibility of damaging the CPU, but since I learnt it the hard way first hand, I figured it would be only right to tell you one possibility. When you lock it down, just take your time and try not to get too carried away with it.

[Tenshi]

Well, thanks to both of you!

I'll go with the Copper heatsinks then. Any brand? or it doesn't matter? I plan to buy those at ebay. I think i'm the only one who will do this "heatsinks change" in the world, right? xD

The other plan is to fix my airflow, the Fans. Any thoughts? Brands?

Myk SilentShadow, haha don't worry, i'll try to do it gently, even if i'm scared.

I'll post updates and pictures when the copper arrives, with luck at my country would be like 10-20 days xD

[LukeeVassallo]

I wouldn't go with the corsair ax850, don't get me wrong it's a great psu but if you with a pc power and cooling 750W, 80+ silver, it's cheaper, enough wattage ( even for 2 cards in sli or crossfire ) and it's more efficient than the ax850. Pc power and cooling have me doing psu's for the last 30 years whilst corsair for the last 4-5 years.

It's worth a look :)

[Tenshi]

I wouldn't go with the corsair ax850, don't get me wrong it's a great psu but if you with a pc power and cooling 750W, 80+ silver, it's cheaper, enough wattage ( even for 2 cards in sli or crossfire ) and it's more efficient than the ax850. Pc power and cooling have me doing psu's for the last 30 years whilst corsair for the last 4-5 years.

It's worth a look :)

Thanks, but i think you misunderstood my questions jeje, don't worry. I was talking about fans from my case.
About that PSU, i have that, the corsair ax850, i bought a while ago. Thank you anyway.

[Tenshi]

Hi guys!
Updated on my rig. But with more questions and i need help, because I'm starting to get crazy with this. Urgent! :(

So, i put the Corsair A50 to my Fx-8150, changing the heatsinks from 2 slots.

The first time i power on the computer temperature was 36C. Then after i reset, went to 40-42C. After looking around, resetting again was 40C-41, stable.

Ok, so i tried to test how much heat i can handle, because, before for games it went like 60Celcius in 1-2minutes. Now for 1-2 minutes, it stays between 48-52/53C.

But between playing Battlefield 3 (2-5minutes); i get several warnings, like the one in the image; i felt the top intake and was hot. Most of the warning were for "voltage", so that's something that's freak in me out and scared me, i don't know if my machine it's gonna explode; i Thought the Corsair A50 will be better than the default stock cooler; but.. i get high temperatures, too; and the same warnings.

I don't understand what the heck it's happening, i can't play any game just for this, because i'm worried. Neither 3d renders i think; so.. Tell me, somebody knows what is happening??? How can i fixed this? I don't have more money -_- .

Look at the image with the Fans/RPM. Is that a good set up?

http://imageshack.us/a/img24/1313/computer3gv.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/computer3gv.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img42/9171/capturajc.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/capturajc.png/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img843/1850/caap2.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/caap2.png/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img217/4075/computerfans.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/computerfans.png/)

Please help me :(

[Myk SilentShadow]

Your temps are fine, so please calm yourself down lol. Oh and by the way..do not use both HWMonitor and AISuite at the same time...that is what causes the voltage warning errors in AISuite. Delete AISuite, it's not needed :)

Also note, the system looks good mate. The only way you could get cooler CPU temps, would be liquid cooling - say a closed loop system, but from what I remember you dont have the money for it...so rest easy and don't forget, the temps on the CPU are indicated by the ambient temps inside the case and wherever you have the case stored :)

[chrsplmr]

Sweet .. No offense to Asus .. but I had to uninstall that long ago for the same reasons ..
Mostly on coming out of sleep mode .. but anytime really ..
As Myk said .. looks good ...

Lock and Load. GAME ON.c.

[Tenshi]

Your temps are fine, so please calm yourself down lol. Oh and by the way..do not use both HWMonitor and AISuite at the same time...that is what causes the voltage warning errors in AISuite. Delete AISuite, it's not needed :)


Myk SIlentShadow; First, thank you for being around and the advices.

About the temps, ok. Look; this is what i don't understand. Before of this, i had a Phenom III, with the same case, stock fans(very low rpm and quiet,), same gpu, ddr2 and other mobo. When i played Battlefield 3 with those, i never, but i mean never have a overheat problem or warning. But now that i had the 8150, better cpu solution, better mobo, same gpu, same case, better case fans that took more hot airflow away from the inside. I Can't play it ! Because of those warnings for temperature and voltage. So what the Fu.. !! I don't understand that. It's supposed to be better in fact my cable management is better than before(or the best i could do), So why? Tell me why i had more overheat and warnings for the first time -_- , i have original BF3 and i can't played since April, =/ . I don't live in the Sahara, i had the same ambient temperatures, in fact i have more airflow/space in my room than before, so why in this planet everything is not going as it's supposed to go.

About the HwMonitor, and AI Suite, i start playing a few minutes and i have opened the AISuite only;, but when i began to see those warning i close the game and open the HwMonitor. So.. AiSuite and Hwmonitor had conflict even if its not open? Or the Aisuite is lying to me about those warnings? Why i have to delete it? Tell me..
Or maybe my PSU is not working correctly or had to much thing connected?(if you want a list of the things i have let me know)

About a better cooling solution, Yes. I plan to buy a better one, but now i don't have money; maybe in 6months.
This is what i plan to buy in the coming months:
- Corsair H100i,
- 2 more Rosewill 120mm/2200RPM for the Top,(the ones i have are better than stock but not excellent)
- 1 140mm with better RPM for the front,
- and maybe 2 80mm, to replace all the stock fans i have left in the case.

That's the only thing i could do, in the coming months, the H100i will be the last thing xD i don't have a job now.



chrsplmr Sweet .. No offense to Asus .. but I had to uninstall that long ago for the same reasons ..
Mostly on coming out of sleep mode .. but anytime really . As Myk said .. looks good ...

Thank you, yes i love my computer too, i just want not being worried about the heat/warnings any more )=


Sorry for my bad grammar, and i'm not whining or something, is just that i don't understand this change from Phenom III to Fx-8150. Any clue?

[Tenshi]

Guys besides my other questions, i have a few more.
I'm not a computer Guru, and i don't want to do Overclocking, just want to stay at default always, but.. I noticed something that intrigued me, look this captures(are in spanish), look the
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/8951/overdrive02.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/overdrive02.png/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img705/5470/overdrive01.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/overdrive01.png/)
Why the CPU Is running at: Frequency 3913, and not 3600????? :eek:
Does that mean that it's overclocked? If that it, that will explain why is so freaking hot, i don't want to overclock, just stay at default; i check AMD page for comparison, and 8150, runs at frequency 3.6/4.2 GHz, there's a way to put the default 3.6 and stay with that in windows?
Thanks,

Update: looking around in amd forums, i notice some guy mention how to solved overheat problems with the 8150, and well it's simple. TURBO CORE!!!! . Believe me i don't know how the heck the turbo core changed to auto!! I didn't do anything, damn! This is why i'm getting all this hot from the cpu! You see i wasn't lying, it was really odd all the heat.

So I fixed that in the uefi, and it seems better right now, not excellent but at least now i can try playing BF3 to test it. But now i have another question, i noticed a lot of values in the Uefi were in "Auto" , it would be wise to look at the mobo manual and changed all those values to standard green manually?