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dragonclawz69
03-07-2012, 01:49 PM
I am going to be rebuilding my system with a i7-2700K and a Maximus mobo. But I am up in the air about a cooling solution. I am thinking about 2 options. The links to them on Newegg is below.

Option 1) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017
Option 2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709004
Option 3) Any others that are strongly recommended.

Any thoughts on which I should go with or maybe any other recommendations. I am looking at using the system for overclocking, gaming, and even a little audio/video editing. I am not wanting to pay anymore that $110 or so for the cooling solution.

Any advice or help would be appreciative.

Edit:

Cooling solutions as mentioned in the forum.

1. Corsair H100
2. PhanteksPH-TC14PE
3. Noctua NH-D14

InnervateD
03-07-2012, 02:40 PM
I have the H100 does a fantastic job. Allows for a pretty good overclock too. It depends on how you mount this thing to get the most out of it. But it's still a very good CPU cooler.

WhitePaw
03-07-2012, 03:42 PM
Agree with Inner.......

H 100 does a great job.....

motorcycles> water cooled ( well most of them)
Cars> Water cooled (well most of them)
Nuclear powerplants> aircooled??

This is the advatntages as i see it>

You get the warm air, out from the case..
Attack the heat peaks very fast
Minimum stress on the mainboard..
Easy to mount
Maintenance free (change paste every 6 month maybe)
Looking good
Keeps cpu cool, even under normal OC conditions
Silent (depending on fans)
Somewhat cheap
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I know there is going to be a discussion regarding this now...

Ok the impeller wears out, but honestly. Are you going to have the same cooler in 10 years from now?

My vote goes to> Corsair Hydro series.. i miss a upgraded version of the H 100

Unless you dont want to build a entire watercooling system..

Area 66
03-07-2012, 03:56 PM
this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018

with fan like this beat the H100

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/d14aa.jpg

dragonclawz69
03-07-2012, 03:57 PM
I would be okay with building a water cooling system from scratch but don't want to spend a fortune doing it as I am sadly on short budget. I think that if I am going to build a water cooling solution from scratch, then I may be able to go upto a $150 price tag. Any suggestions on parts?

So far the H100 is taking the cake. Any others want to chime in?

WhitePaw
03-07-2012, 04:00 PM
this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018

with fan like this beat the H100

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/d14aa.jpg

MM, and a tank beats that...

H 100 does a great job up to atleast 5,1 ghz (3930K) push/pull... And that cpu produce a lot of heat..

dragonclawz69
03-07-2012, 04:13 PM
Area 66, I was leaning more towards the Phanteks cooler which I know is almost identical to the Noctua version. However I have seen a few benchmark tests and reviews that show the Phantek outperforms the Noctua a little bit.

But either way it seems that the general concensus is the H100, which is probably what I will get at this point

WhitePaw
03-07-2012, 04:15 PM
in my opinion Noctua is hype, overprized, and is more of a (identity-booster among the young ones)..

Save your wallet instead..


Go for air if you feel that you like it..;)

Lotta vendors out there trying to get your cash, use your head, and do research..... its fun (dont become the pray)

I cant help you with air-cooling.. But there are some of us in here that can..

Area 66
03-07-2012, 05:15 PM
MM, and a tank beats that...

H 100 does a great job up to atleast 5,1 ghz (3930K) push/pull... And that cpu produce a lot of heat..


I run my i7-3960X at 6.0 ghz with my D14 and my temps are under 60'C lol, ( please don't believe this )


show me some OCCT screen so I can see the temps. and please add me some CPU-Z validation , I don't believe you have great temps with a H 100 on a 2011 CPU at 5,1 ....sorry I know enough to not beleive everything peoples throw on the web. to see is too believe , usally it' the concensus on every forums , you talk about your OC , you show it.

WhitePaw
03-07-2012, 05:38 PM
show me some OCCT screen so I can see the temps. and please add me some CPU-Z validation , I don't believe you have great temps with a H 100 on a 2011 CPU at 5,1 ....sorry I know enough to not beleive everything peoples throw on the web. to see is to beleive

Idle 30c.. max 85c at 5,1 ghz.. / H 100
idle 30c .....max 70-80c 5,3 ghz > i5 2500k / H 60

I dont force you in to believe it, but that is my temps..

If you only use the stock solutions that comes with the Corsairs, you probably wont get these temps.. But who is saying that Corsair have optimized the gear, isnt it our job , and in our interest.. and part of the fun

dragonclawz69
03-07-2012, 05:42 PM
Area and Grott I think part of the debate is also going to be based on the area you live in. I see one is from Sweden and one from Canada, the climates are different in each locale.

Area 66
03-07-2012, 05:48 PM
85'C is unacceptable in my lab; I keep all my CPU under 65'C for short time and under 55'C for long term. anyway I'm a Water Cooler guy , ( real one not close one) actually my friend in London Ontario is finish a dual stage phase system for me, so it's gone be sub zero temps. .


Area and Grott I think part of the debate is also going to be based on the area you live in. I see one is from Sweden and one from Canada, the climates are different in each locale.


Are you kidding, Sweden is not in Africa, they play Hockey outside like us in Winter. If you have a COuntry in Europe who have same weather than the Place I live, it's Sweden

dragonclawz69
03-07-2012, 05:50 PM
yeah but a phase system is way too much money for me and my setup.

Area 66
03-07-2012, 05:56 PM
yeah but a phase system is way too much money for me and my setup.

$ 2,500 ........on the topic , I just call Paul at Egg to order a Phanteks , I will have it friday, I really like to try it, look,s cool. if you can wait I will report. H100 , Noctua D-14 they perform about the same, the problem with the systems like Corsair is that they don't make a good air flow around the CPU, so the regulators and chipset are not well cooled

Edit; this Phanteks, is certainly made in the same place as the Noctua, the kit bag are the same with same mounting stuff, the back plate is the same, the wire of the fans are the same, some wire adaptor are the same , the fan clip are the same, and even the thermal paste is the same ( with another name )

dragonclawz69
03-07-2012, 06:09 PM
I don't believe it is. One company is an Australian company and the other is a UK company for starters.

Area 66
03-07-2012, 06:25 PM
I don't believe it is. One company is an Australian company and the other is a UK company for starters.

Sorry , get the facts right please... non of them are probably manufactured in Europe , for sure Noctua are made in Taiwan or China by Kolink International Corporation , a Taiwan Company
It's the design who are made in Europe :

From the Phanteks web site : "Phanteks design team which has a base in Europe situated in Holland"

From Noctua "Designed in Austria, Noctua's premium cooling components ..."

note the word design.... country means nothing, Some model of Corsair PSU are made my Seasonic.


They share quite few thing, even their web site look the same, it's the same back plate and same parts envelopes, even the label is the same, Saturday I will unbox both, the Phanteks and the D-14, you will see I'm right.

dragonclawz69
03-07-2012, 06:40 PM
I understand that there are many similarities. However, even if they are produced in the same plant/place, it does not mean they are exactly the same. One was "designed" by Phantek and one was "designed" by Noctua. Each company has there own little tweaks to the standard double tower design.

However, this debate is not between Noctua or Phantek, but rather what the better cooler is for around $100 or less for a i7-2700K.

Thanks all.

Area 66
03-07-2012, 07:00 PM
I understand that there are many similarities. However, even if they are produced in the same plant/place, it does not mean they are exactly the same..

I never mention they was exactly the same, some parts are the same, same envelopes , I never say the cooler are the same, I never mention the cooler himself. I just mention it's probably the same OEM manufacturer who build them.

between those 2 , choose the one you prefer for the look, I'm dam sure they perform about the same, one thing is sure I will know this week end.

InnervateD
03-08-2012, 12:53 AM
this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018

with fan like this beat the H100

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/d14aa.jpg

Oh God look at what an eyesore that is.

Sorry I'm a minimalistic kind of guy and I like my computer as clean and eye pleasing as possible that way you can get more air flow in the case and not have a hunking piece of metal and plastic like that get in the way.

Sorry the above pic vs this?
http://batmanarkham.net/batmanbeyond/images/PBB_013.jpg

I'll take my H100 thx.

Cidadiman
03-08-2012, 01:05 AM
1 word sabertooth

Area 66
03-08-2012, 01:28 AM
oh boy someone is laughing at my stuff ?



I'll take my H100 thx.


NO I will take my EK block...loll, I'm choking, what do you have under this small water block, an Atom CPU ? water realy flow in those thiny tubes ?



I still have missing part but this is what I'm working on, this little i7-3960X Extreme Edition just wait for the special block Eddy ( EK ) is making for me ,special Area 66 edition.. something tell me it's not in the same league as a H100 , lol , stay tune for this tread too.



http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/rive.jpg



Do you think the D 14 is the best cooling I own ? , really ? , ..... I was just showing what look the kind of air cooler the op ask for , this computer is use in the corner of my lab to download stuff, see it's not even in the house, in the shop in the garage


http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/shop.jpg

Area 66
03-08-2012, 02:27 AM
and now too stay on topic,

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/h100.jpg
versus

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/tripple.jpg

if the OP want to go water , the second option is way better, of course it cost more, but you get for what you pay for. All for say that D14 or H100 are on same league, but the H100 is part of enthusiast Water Cooling League

This will be very sexy in the same corsair case. Will show it to you this week end, I have an extra 800d laying under my bench , so the OP can judge the 3 options

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/k.jpg

frisianbear2002
03-08-2012, 08:08 AM
Wow that's a big BAD ass cpu aircooler, wonder what the differents in temps are compaired with lets say the H80/H100.:cool:

Area 66
03-08-2012, 12:10 PM
Wow that's a big BAD ass cpu aircooler, wonder what the differents in temps are compaired with lets say the H80/H100.:cool:

will be better than a H80 , about the same of a H100 , it's mainly questions of personals choices. Will receive mine tomorrow, it's noce to try different things.

frisianbear2002
03-08-2012, 12:19 PM
Now i must admit it looks massive and impressive very sweet colors to only the white should be black lol then it was more like a ROG edition.

And yes your right if you dont try different things then you dont know the differents thats 100% true.

dragonclawz69
03-08-2012, 12:28 PM
it's mainly questions of personals choices.

I do agree with you. There are a lot of people that only will use air and some only use liquid. I myself, have always gone the air route but was thinking of mixing it up a bit and going with a liquid system. Just didn't know if what I was planning on doing with the new mobo and cpu would get better performance with air or liquid. And of course as I mentioned in the original post, I am up for suggestions on powerhouse coolers. Around $100 price tag though.