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[cdnmeatshield]

Hello all. I'm Cory and I am currently building my new Computer I have some questions.
I'm looking for the best ram for this gaming machine. Price really doesn't matter at this point in my life I'm happy to say
CPU: I have
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16819103960

MB: I have
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813131735

Ram: Need help deciding why is 8-16 gig's of mem better then 24-32 gigs for a gaming machine.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476

PS:Looking at getting this one as I have the 800 Watt in my currant machine
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817121091

HHD: I have. Yes I know I should have gotten a Sata III but I got this one weeks ago for $300, I can always get a sata III later.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820231379

Video Card: 2x GTX 480
This is up in the air as I'm waiting for any info on the GTX680 and to see when they will come out. IF not I may just throw 2 480's in this compy till next xmas and then upgrade then... undecided.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814130759

The cooling I'll be using.

MB water block
http://dazmode.com/store/index.php?m...oducts_id=1814
this seems to have become unavailable. I have seen the maxuim water block but not the CF V F?

CPU Water block
http://dazmode.com/store/index.php?m...oducts_id=1357

The water cooling reservoir
http://www.zalman.com/ENG/product/Pr...ad.asp?idx=183

Please let me know if I'll have any problems with my build or if you can recommend something.

Thanks for any help.
CS

[Area 66]

Hi , your links to egg don't work for many of them, I see you choose 1,65 volts ram, what kind of motherboard you use.. also the link to Daz, show only a general page not an item.

[Area 66]

Unfortunately all of your URL's have ellipses in them. :(

the ram work.... :D

[cdnmeatshield]

Damn.. all the posted worked on another forum..
humm oh well here it goes again.
CPU: FX 8150

MB: Crosshair V Formula

Ram I need What do you suggest?
in Gskill or other. 16 gigs of THE BEST ram.

PS: Kingwin 1300 Watt
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121091&AID=10657534&PID=3754110&SID=skim1132X509988X4b8f82c47b72716e375203c1af4f13 23&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA

The SSD I have, Yes I know I should have gone Sata III but I didnt see one from gskill.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231379&AID=10657534&PID=3754110&SID=skim1132X509988Xa8d0a5f5dc894cdbac18ec931f756f 18&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA

Video Card.
2X 480 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130759&AID=10657534&PID=3754110&SID=skim1132X509988X25f6d8d9f373e94bcb30b34b75dd18 a4&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA
$309.99 Each With $50.00 rebate = $519.98


Water cooling
MB Water Block: Unless Asus has one for this MB, let me know
http://dazmode.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=153_67&products_id=1814

CPU Water block
http://dazmode.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=102_106&products_id=1357

The water cooling reservoir
http://www.zalman.com/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=183

Hope these links work.
please let me know what if any rearranging I should do to make this a killer machine. :)

thanks
CS

[Area 66]

Waht case do you have, I ask because I'm sure we can find better than this Zalman system, also I will replace the PSU with a AX 1200, way better

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014&Tpk=ax%201200

[cdnmeatshield]

The case is something I'm trying to figure out.
I have access to a table top laser and I will be engraving a theme in to the sides and or front so I'd like a big lexan window or a solid door to work on.
Themes I've been thinking of ,
Skyrim: laser cut the side either to a dragon or logo and then logos of the equipment thats in the box. A pressed logo into a leather strap worked somewhere into the box.

BF3: Logo cut into side with actual holes shot into box * I have friends that own gun ranges*

OR a Res Evil. I have worked on the RE2, RE4 and RE5 and SOON RE6... but dont say anything ;) I have a number of film swag I could build into this box easily.

OR a halflife box...

I could go on forever... :)

What I like: Easy to work with
http://www.xoxide.com/nzxt-m59case.html

http://www.xoxide.com/antec-df35darkfleet-case.html

http://www.xoxide.com/nzxt-lexascase.html

Large amount of space for modding.
http://www.xoxide.com/coolermaster-haf932case.html

Options with more then some modding:
This one is very nice on the inside but the side cover is almost useless to me.. :(
http://www.xoxide.com/sentey-gs-6500-burton-fulltowercase.html

This one is nice but the side window would have to be built.
http://www.xoxide.com/aerocool-strike-xgtblackedition-midtowercase.html

Nice but no side window
http://www.xoxide.com/aerocool-vs3advancemidtower-case.html

I like this one but it's seems tight and I will be running two 480s.
http://www.xoxide.com/nzxt-vulcan-matxcase.html

I only post this one to ask if these or similar dials are available somewhere, I'd like to see info on heat and such.
http://www.xoxide.com/apevia-xcruiser2-black-case.html

This one kinda grow on me :) I'd laser cut the fan shroud from the side and add lexan
http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-chasermk1-fulltowercase.html

This one is greeting pricy but I like it
http://www.xoxide.com/cooler-master-haf-x.html

Last but not least
http://www.xoxide.com/zalman-zmachine-gt1000-black.html
but for 399 for a box I'd just get there 599 one with liquid cooling in it already.

Sorry for the LONG ass post, please let me know what you think or other options.
CS

[Area 66]

So , your best option will be to order a rad , a pump , a reservoir , tube and fittings from our friend Daz.

[cdnmeatshield]

Sorry I'm new. Daz?
Dazmode.com?

CS

[Area 66]

Sorry I'm new. Daz?
Dazmode.com?

CS

on the left Daz, from Dazmode and on the Right Eddy, owner of EK Block ...don't they look the same ? Brothers ?, Cousins ? same Dad ?

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/WCgroup.jpg

[cdnmeatshield]

wow ;) lol looks like someone was taken by gypsies as a baby :)
Ok I've emailed him about the MB water block.


You had asked about the high voltage ram.
Now I'm not sure if I need 2133. The MB says it take 1600 and 2133 OC. Does that mean that I can get 1600 and OC it to 2133 or what?
Whats the difference both the same price
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445

I dont want to get something I cant use.
I'm reading this now to get some understanding
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/llano-apu-memory-performance,3017.html

thanks :)
CS

[Area 66]

Now I'm not sure if I need 2133. The MB says it take 1600 and 2133 OC. Does that mean that I can get 1600 and OC it to 2133 or what?


You get it, or near...acording to AMD spec, RAM should run at a max of 1333, so even at 1600 they are OC, now, since you can play with the clock of the CPU, you don't need high frequency RAM, 1600 mhz will be fast enough and a good value ( they cost less) aside, your board will have more chance to boot the first time. Now get 1.5 volts RAM so if need you can always increase the voltage a little bit. Since you choose a Crosshair, I will go with Red RAM, Gskill have plenty of them

[cdnmeatshield]

Ok so I'm learning :)
the red ram is going to be blue as I have planned on cool blue lights in it.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445
there is one with a lower latency but its out of stalk.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231536
worth the wait?

Now I'm looking at power supplies.
the one you pointed out is most likely what I'll get but I've always liked the kingwin way of cable management, the screw in plugs and glow are very nice and looks great
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445

but now they seem to have lost there patent to Rosewill.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182239

I know this is nit picky but I like the look.

thanks again
CS

[Area 66]

Please stay away of those Rosewill PSU .... get something reliable, something like a Corsair or Seasonic , the look,; peoples who know about PSU will be open mouth if you show them a AX 1200 , not a Xmas Light Decoration like this Rosewill

[cdnmeatshield]

Done and done :)
I got the CORSAIR and the 2 480's :)
I'll wait on the ram and CPU for a week.
so now just the box and liquid cooling to take care of :)

and on a side note here's the liquid cooling for the 2 480's :)
http://www.dangerden.com/store/dd-gtx480-black-chrome-top-and-copper-base.html#tabs
thanks for your help :)
CS

[Area 66]

I have a EK block and back plate on my 480, I like the EK back plate

[cdnmeatshield]

Well last night I put some thought into the water distribution .
here's a simple jpg of what I want.
yes there will be an external water res, that is why I like the Zalman reserator.
This will be made of copper soldered together **and polished to an inch of its life *
unless I can find and pressure test plexie tube and UV reactive adhesive..
let me know what you think
CS

[Area 66]

Oh boy BIG NO here, your schema show parallel distribution, you risk to have water running faster in some place and slower ( if not stop ) in other place. You need to plug them in series. The out go in the in of the other component. For your Motherboard block, you feed water at the bottom not at the top, to avoid air trap

[cdnmeatshield]

wow, film work has eaten my life again... I'm currently working on a pilot of Beauty and the Beast and I'm first assist SPFX :) yes living the dream..16 hrs + hours a day.. my first week back in three months 101 hours.. this week 6 days..100 hours.. I'm fing tired but have money for my new compy :)

I have a question about flow meters. Does my Crosshair V Formula have ports for temp and or flow sensors. I did read something about changing something in the bios that make the impeller of the flow meter read as RPMs.
I'm looking at this INS-FM17N Coolant Flow Meter (http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=740)
if there a way to run three of these?

also I know what you said about a water manifold..NO.. well I've been putting more thought into that.
I have found this 1" Copper Manifold w/ 1/2" Crimp Ball Valves, 3 outlets (http://www.pexsupply.com/Sioux-Chief-672XV0342-1-Copper-Manifold-w-1-2-Crimp-Ball-Valves-3-outlets-5435000-p)
If I induce water from both ends flow will be even with a "U" on both ends going to a "T" joint to a 1/'2 in. I intend to have this on both sides
of the computer. As for condensation I have the opportunity to encase these manifolds in a clear silicon resin to stop that from happening.

Sorry for my out of the box thinking but I'd like to push the limits. I have LOTS of other industrial ideas for water cooling that I use in film and TV.

thanks for any help :)
I'm about 2 weeks away from build.
The chassis goes in Monday for Nickle plating and Daz should have my north bridge cooler after her gets back from his trip.
I'm officially done with this show as of Friday and will rest for at least a week :)

[cdnmeatshield]

Hey there all ;) Well after the longest build b/c of work getting in the way here is my water cooled ROG monster :)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79553991@N05/
please enjoy and let ma know what you think :)
Cory S

[Zka17]

So, you still did the parallel setup... :) Could you, please, post some pics in this forum too (in the "Case Modding & PC Build Pics" section)? It seems very interesting...

[cdnmeatshield]

Hello all :)
As everyone in my film world in on holidays I had a chance to put together my build videos
I've cut them to be about 6 mins long so there easy to watch.
please let me know what you think
Part 1: Parts Intro (http://youtu.be/Mx1JUhRbuzc)
Part 2: The build (http://youtu.be/0D2pWyCcrnQ)
Part 3: Parts of the Assembly (http://youtu.be/IUxV_GeWo-w)
Part 4: Voiding Warranties (http://youtu.be/6fhNL-oBurw)
Enjoy :)

[cdnmeatshield]

Well an update.. sadly after maybe 4 months my first GPU has failed. No signal and windows doesn't see two gtx 480
The water temp never got over 35c.. core temp never got over 46c. Sadly the cards warranties are voided b/c of the water block..
Any one ever have a dissapearing GPU b4? I can't beleve this failed with out watching.

[xeromist]

I've had a water GPU fail on two occasions: Once was an acetal GPU block cover that leaked where it mated to the block and killed the card below it. The second time I just had the block over tightened and simply loosening the block a bit allowed it to work.

So I wouldn't say that your card is dead just yet. I would drain and extract the cards and carefully inspect them. If you used any colored fluid then you should be able to inspect for any slow leaks. You might try removing the water block and see if any TIM has gone where it shouldn't. If you still have the air cooler you could try switching back to see if perhaps the water block is causing a short somewhere?

I would say that if you cannot find any reason why the failure is your fault then I would restore the card to stock and RMA. If there is obvious damage from coolant or any other indication that there is user induced damage then I wouldn't bother as they will just reject it anyway.

[cdnmeatshield]

Thanks for some hope :)
the money/buying another 480 in NOT a problem as they are 200 each now.
I just have no time for the next three months to test and tune as I'm back on another feature.
Maybe i'll upgrade to a pair of 580's at xmas :)
It just frustrating that something that i build worked extremely well and then just stopped...
I'll post later
thanks again.

[cdnmeatshield]

Hello all :) UPDATE
Well it's been a very busy few weeks and have had time to deal with this problem of the missing card...
Yes it was the actual weight of the cards that caused the top one to pull out just enough to no read...
I push/reseated them both and the top 480 returned and works once again :)
I have a cut piece of wooden dowel as a support and will change that to UV acrylic when I get a chance.
So if anyone has one if not two of more water blocked GPU's I suggest that you support them the best way you can.

Thanks again for this rooms support when I was losing my mind :)

[mrwolf]

Heres some cool ideas for a build lol.. http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/82802681/

[cdnmeatshield]

Damn... she's failed again... this time reseating it didnt help...
sigh ...

[cdnmeatshield]

...And it's back. I did nothing... this has me confused now...
Could this be an exe or port issue in windows on start up?
oh well I'm off to play BF3 till this crashes :)