help my pc keeps crashing

[pcbuilder131]

ok i have posted here before i had the idea that i solved this problem now its come back
mty fist custom build

spec
prosser fx-8150
motherboard asus m5a87
graphics card gts 250
colling sytem overclocker fan asus rock lion
3 indivbidal case fans
case strike x gaming case
dvd disk drive
hard disks operating sytem on a laptop hard drive 250 gb
plus additional conpy of oc on 2 tb hard drive
corsair venguance ram 8gb kit
tp_link internet card
psu 650 watt ocz stantered

i have tried agusting ram freqencys
my cpu is not overheating and has got auto overcloking on it crashes with it on and offf but seemes to crashe less with overcloking on
i have tried 2 operatimng sytems both crash

i will be on for 10 minets some times and it will crashe
then i can go on for hours 7_9 and it wont crash
its a bit odd
i have tried all these setting for a solid week
im trying to intall a new graphics card but i cant until its stabel (550 ti geforce)
i can play battfiled 3 in medium graphics with heets of 4o i have core temp checking tempsand it rund ideal at 7 c
i have steam and origon intalled

i really need help oc is windows 7 ultamate 64 bit

[Zka17]

I'm sorry to hear that your system is still not running as it should (with no crashes)! :(

When I was mentioning to test your system in the other thread, I meant to prevent this... I still sustain my idea that you have to do some testing. However, since your previous thread, I've learned a lot about how is better to do that (and yes, prime95 should NOT be your first choice): http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?15051-Best-way-to-test-new-builds-and-fresh-OCs&country=&status=

Based on the thread I linked above, if I would be you, I would set back the BIOS to it's defaults and run Memtest first...

What exactly do you mean by "crashes" anyway? Your system freezes or shuts down suddenly or you get a BSOD? kkn's idea in your other thread is still valid, and would really help to figure out the problems...

[pcbuilder131]

i have been running stress test on it trouth out these weeks and bye crashi meen my mouse stops the hole screen freezes and i cant do anythinge not even ctrl alt delate

[HiVizMan]

Go into BIOS F5 to restore defaults then F10 to save and exit.

Does your system crash after doing that. Please test and report back.

[pcbuilder131]

did it monteraing crashes 3 day period should do it
ill try running prime 95

[pcbuilder131]

hep tested it crashed an hour maybe 2 after it seems to crash more with core unlocked off it seems i was playing mirrors edge and i passed all prime 95 testes

[HiVizMan]

OK your system is not stable at defaults - I would suggest you begin the problem solving process in earnest.

Download Memtest 4.2 ( I use the USB download) and test each stick of ram individually at defaults.

Report back one all your sticks have been tested - a successful memtest is two completed cycles without error.

[pcbuilder131]

i have it now do i need to create a bootable usb or just put it on im a bit new to this

[pcbuilder131]

cant seem to gt mem tester to work

[HiVizMan]

What do you mean you can not get memtest to work. Please provide details to help me help you.

[HiVizMan]

http://www.memtest.org/download/4.20/memtest86+-4.20.usb.installer.zip

Download and extract the installer.
Decide what USB stick you are going to use. Remember all information will be erased from that USB stick.
Begin the install process.
Point the application at your USB stick.
Let the application finish.
Reset your PC
F8 to get to the boot menu option
Select your USB stick


There you go

[pcbuilder131]

the instruction say type make were to i type this and how do i use this

[pcbuilder131]

it tells me to type make were and how and in oc or in bios or

[pcbuilder131]

got it all passed what next

[pcbuilder131]

it past all of the test no errors

[pcbuilder131]

got it all passed mem test

[HiVizMan]

Confirm you have tested each of your sticks one at a time
Confirm you have tested each of your ram sockets one at a time
Confirm you have tested dual channel

[pcbuilder131]

yes yes and yes whats next i think its not the ram but it recently got very hot here and it start3ed crashing more it cant be my cpu i hev been loging it but my gts 250 i loked online has some overheating problems what do you think

[Zka17]

it recently got very hot here and it start3ed crashing more it cant be my cpu i hev been loging it but my gts 250 i loked online has some overheating problems what do you think

It could be overheating problems... Even if you're observing the CPU core temps in a good range, the VRM temp may be high - that is not monitored by softwares and doing "auto overclocking" as you stated in your first post in this thread, may raised the voltages (with subsequent increase of temp).

Could you verify the BIOS settings in special the voltages?

[pcbuilder131]

It could be overheating problems... Even if you're observing the CPU core temps in a good range, the VRM temp may be high - that is not monitored by softwares and doing "auto overclocking" as you stated in your first post in this thread, may raised the voltages (with subsequent increase of temp).

Could you verify the BIOS settings in special the voltages?
yea my setting are auto overclocking on and core unlocker on but themps are beoign motered every 0.0001 seconds and temps seem fine but the graphics card is scolfding hot i touch it it burns me and when i run a fan on top of irt it crashes hardly ever

[Zka17]

What I tried to say is that none of the temperature monitoring softwares can check the VRM temps (at least as far as i know) - since there is no built in sensor. Of course, you could mount one... But until then the way to appreciate the VRM's temp is to check the voltages (high voltage = high temp).

[HiVizMan]

If you wish to monitor your VGA temps you need to download GPUZ

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Open the sensor tab.

http://tpucdn.com/gpuz/screen2.gif

[pcbuilder131]

If you wish to monitor your VGA temps you need to download GPUZ

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Open the sensor tab.

http://tpucdn.com/gpuz/screen2.gif

hea dowloaded ideal running at 45 c going to try a game

[pcbuilder131]

running 45 ideal 59 playing mirrors edge gone try a heaveyer game and thji is with a side fan and a cold night ill try with outr both tommorow

[pcbuilder131]

yea it hits 78 when playing dead island and normal day 70 when on mirors edge
please i really need some help im ok with skype support or strait to email im having a real problem please i need some help

[Zka17]

78C is still in the GPU's range... I don't think that the graphic card would cause your problems... What are your voltages (the CPU related ones)?

[Anicra]

Also if you memtest is a pass, certainly check your PSU Voltage or use a tester out it too.

[pcbuilder131]

al overcloking and core unlocking is f=of cpu running at 25 c ideal testing high perfomance task and voltage is 28.1 watts being used

[pcbuilder131]

it now only goesd to 35 on my cpu when playing mirrors edge how strange it has a higher operating tempreture but a lower in game one hmm any guess guys

[pcbuilder131]

you guys have been usful but sorry i did a full day of testing determined it was the mother board it cant handel the power of the fx8150 it says it can work but it cant gonna tell asus what went wrong but i bout a sabre-toothe fx990 and it fixed then put in 550 ti dont buy the m5a87 if you want to use an fx8150 it dosent work