Sandy Bridge E and Socket 2011 motherboards coming yet?

[jewie27]

With the latest news of Intel's Sandy Bridge E series processors due to release on November 15th, why haven't we seen any new motherboards on the market yet? They showed them at Computex 2011 but November is only 2 months from now. Is Asus releasing an ROG edition socket 2011 board? I might be interested in a socket 2011 board and Intel I7-3930X instead of getting the Crosshair V Formula and FX 8 Core cpu; depending on the benchmarks.

[Area 66]

the benchmark, lol AMD is targeting Sandy Bridge the new 2011 is supose to be 46% more performing than a Sandy Bridge, but it will not be cheap of course

[jewie27]

I already have enough for the new $500 Intel cpu and motherboard ready to go. Just want to know when the new boards are coming out from Asus.

[Raja@ASUS]

We will have boards at launch - cant say what models just yet.

-Raja

[chrsplmr]

AMD/Intel war is about to heat up, eh?

[Jaytheredneck1]

$500 is not by any means getting you an extreme cpu. Even the current 990X costs more than my truck for the cpu alone, the new one will likely cost more. Hell even the top ROG intel board costs more than your $500 budget.

However $500 WILL get you a CHV and a bulldozer.

[Area 66]

jaytheredneck , don't sell the fur of the bear before have kill it , We know nothing of Dozer ............ aside it's an Intel tread so go make your AMD fanboyish stuff elsewhere please. We are talking about real stuff here. A side until proof than I’m wrong a 2500k and 2600k is more powerful than a Dozer in many application, example; games don’t need more than 3 cores , And a nice GeneZ with a 2500k will cost way more ….. Also Intel will not only release Extreme Edition, they will have more affordable CPU that fit socket 2011, Jewie is talking about a $ 500 CPU not a CPU and a Board, and not an Extreme, with $ 500, chance are he will fine a socket 2011 CPU that fit his taste. What was the price of the i7-920 at release ?????

[Jaytheredneck1]

Nothing Fanboyish here, it's his money if he wants to flush it thats up to him. I just think it's a horrible waste of money to pay double and not receive double the performance. Also OP made no mention of any k series cpu. He wants an extreme, which currently does not come for less than $1k, and there is no expectation of the next gen X to be any less costly. And YOU introduced cost into the conversation, which prompted OP to say he has $500 for it, he also did make mention of needing board + cpu, probably because they do go hand in hand.

BTW you contradicted yourself, "don't sell the fur of the bear before have kill it , We know nothing of Dozer" and then "A side until proof than I’m wrong a 2500k and 2600k is more powerful than a Dozer in many application"

I can do that too, see? Until I'm proven wrong, Jesus wore a cheese hat on sundays to support his favorite team, the greenbay packers. Judas was a Bears fan, which is why he turned him in.

“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.” - J.C.

[Area 66]

Ya you right I just read his first post...


I might be interested in a socket 2011 board and Intel I7-3930X instead of getting the Crosshair V Formula and FX 8 Core cpu; depending on the benchmarks.


Well a i7-3930x for $ 500 , you are dreaming Jewie27 .......

Anyway as far as I'm concern I will have a 2011 extreme edition + a Dozer , but I don't expect to much from Dozer, I know it will probably finish as VM server.

[Area 66]

Well , they may have kill the bear today :


http://www.asusrog.com/forums/showthread.php?4190-AMD-Bulldozer-Breaks-CPU-Frequency-World-Record-overclockers.com

[jewie27]

The Intel 3930X processor is $500 and yes it is part of the Sandy Bridge E line, FYI.
I don't need a $1000 processor for gaming, most of what I want to see is going to be handled by my dual Kepler GPU's.

[Area 66]

the 3960x should be over $ 1000 and the 3930x should be $600

[grok23]

example; games don’t need more than 3 cores


Why do I still keep seeing this line of garbage put out all the time in 2011? It may well be true if you're only playing crappy XBox ports, but nowadays I'm seeing lots of them making far more use of scaling across cores and not stopping at 3-4, but carrying on across more.


In the meantime though back to your guessing about CPU lines we haven't had the chance to play with yet.

[xeromist]

Why do I still keep seeing this line of garbage put out all the time in 2011? It may well be true if you're only playing crappy XBox ports, but nowadays I'm seeing lots of them making far more use of scaling across cores and not stopping at 3-4, but carrying on across more.


In the meantime though back to your guessing about CPU lines we haven't had the chance to play with yet.

As far as I know, he's right. Need means requirement and I've never seen a title that required a quad core to run. Recommended perhaps, but not required. Also, despite improvements in multi-threading a lot of those multi-threaded games will still get a bigger boost from higher clocks than more cores. So while they might use extra cores if you have them, you'd be better off having fewer but faster cores. Show us all the titles that will run better on 8 cores @2GHz than a 3GHz quad core(based on a couple of my boxes).

That said, my recommendation for current purchases is a decently speedy quad core. I don't see game development outstripping quads anytime soon and having a decent clock speed will cover the vast majority of titles that will really only exploit one or two cores.

[Area 66]

Why do I still keep seeing this line of garbage put out all the time in 2011? .

I'm gone make you a MarkedOne garbage reply..... what I means with 3 cores is it will not use more than 100 % cpu usage if you use a 3 cores, so do the math; 75% of 4 cores and that's make only 50% on 6 cores. So no need for a 6, 8, 10 or 12 cores for gaming, as Xero said cores speeds not number of them is the key. Now if you talk about VM , that's a different story as we add the frequency of each cores to compute the capability of the build

so I use a i7-2600k and a i7-965 extreme edition for my gamings PC , for my Workstation I use my 990x 6 cores as I do more VM on it. ( actually a i5-2500k will be more than enough for my gaming build, but I still throw some VM on it.

[jewie27]

It's because game developers know that the majority of the market does not own a hexacore or octocore yet. Once the majority of people upgrade, games will be written to take full advantage of the extra processing power.

[grok23]

lol

Considering that this is the ROG forum, the amount of people advocating just good enough as opposed to pushing for the best is laughable. There's a big difference between it only "needs" 3 cores and using more for a better experience.

In my case, considering that the games I play the most scale across multiple cores and I like to keep a core or two spare for fraps and other stuff, I went down the fastest possible hex core route. The difference in capabilities and end results when playing and recording at the same time is quite noticeable compared to the faster quad core I used to run.

[Area 66]

lol

Considering that this is the ROG forum, the amount of people advocating just good enough as opposed to pushing for the best is laughable. ........., I went down the fastest possible hex core route. .

Yes it is very laughable to see you purchase an AMD 1100t hex , when a quad 2600k smash it all the way. very laughable a side I'm sorry for you but the fastest hex is an i7-990x

Phenom II 1100t
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/1100.jpg


i7-2600k
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/cpu2.jpg

i7-990x
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj432/dataxpert/cpu.jpg

[grok23]

Yes it is very laughable to see you purchase an AMD 1100t hex , when a quad 2600k smash it all the way. very laughable .... you want to troll us .....

A) That's just one of my PCs, they're not all AMD. Do you really think you're the only person with multiple systems here? ;)

B) Following an easy upgrade route where the socket is basically unchanged made it a natural choice.


No trolling, you just seem rather defensive after being called out on a statement that wasn't what I'd expect from here. If discussion is trolling... wtf?

[xeromist]

Perhaps the discrepancy is because I'm coming from an Intel perspective and you're coming from AMD. An Intel quad core like the 2500 is only $10-$20 more than the 1100T but easily beats it in most games despite having fewer cores. An Intel hex core is very expensive though. So, at this point an Intel quad core is still the best bang for the buck even if CPU's with more cores are available.

[grok23]

Please see the post above yours, I own a 2600k too, but for the secondary gaming PC in the house I have an AMD system which has been upgraded over the years. For that one it didn't make sense to just go out and get a new CPU and Mobo at the same time.

[grok23]

a side I'm sorry for you but the fastest hex is an i7-990x



I'm well aware of that, but unfortunately you can't just stuff one onto an AM3 Mobo, can you? Considering that it was an upgrade for an existing AM3 system it made perfect sense.

As and when the 2011 socket type is out though I will be moving onto one of the Hexs in that range for my main workstation and the main gaming PC. Any more trolling you want to do? :P

[Area 66]

An Intel quad core like the 2500 is only $10-$20 more than the 1100T.

that was before the AMD garage sale, few month ago the 1100t was about the same price as a 2600k

[Area 66]

I'm well aware of that, but unfortunately you can't just stuff one onto an AM3 Mobo, can you? Considering that it was an upgrade for an existing AM3 system it made perfect sense.

Sorry , I don't recycle old CPU in my new build , the day the Dozer will be release I will build one,

[xeromist]

Please see the post above yours, I own a 2600k too, but for the secondary gaming PC in the house I have an AMD system which has been upgraded over the years. For that one it didn't make sense to just go out and get a new CPU and Mobo at the same time.

Of course. I wouldn't recommend throwing out perfectly good hardware if it will still do the job and I wasn't knocking your choice. I didn't know your reasons so I couldn't possibly judge them. I was only addressing your assertion that my advocating a quad core is laughable. I guess I can be more specific: my recommendation for current purchases of new CPU/board combo's is a decently speedy Intel quad core. I would agree that people going with AMD for any reason are best off with a hex core but being in the high performance gaming mindset the current AMD offerings didn't even come to mind.

[xeromist]

that was before the AMD garage sale, few month ago the 1100t was about the same price as a 2600k

Yes, I'm talking about new purchases which would be at current prices. It is interesting to see how quickly the market changes though :)

[grok23]

"Upgrade for an existing", that's all the clue you need to see it wasn't a case of recycling or a new build. Recycling is what was done with the old CPU and a pile of other spares afterwards, end result nephew gets a gaming PC.

[grok23]

Of course. I wouldn't recommend throwing out perfectly good hardware if it will still do the job and I wasn't knocking your choice. I didn't know your reasons so I couldn't possibly judge them. I was only addressing your assertion that my advocating a quad core is laughable. I guess I can be more specific: my recommendation for current purchases of new CPU/board combo's is a decently speedy Intel quad core. I would agree that people going with AMD for any reason are best off with a hex core but being in the high performance gaming mindset the current AMD offerings didn't even come to mind.

Here lies the issue, I wouldn't disagree with any of the recommendations you mention, indeed I've made the same recommendations to many people and built several for friends too, it was merely the three is enough part of the statement made earlier. Maybe I didn't make that clear enough in the quote I used, will have to check.

[Area 66]

"Upgrade for an existing", .

and what you do with the old CPU, you trash it, I never upgrade my build or trash thing, I sell the old units to someone or since I'm member of the Optimist Club, I give it to a family who can afford a PC , that's if I can't use it in my lab. I give a lot of PC every years, when my customers upgrade their PC, they also upgrade their OS, so I reformat and reinstall the OS and give it to a familly who need it.

[grok23]

See the edit to my earlier post above.

Not so different really. ;)

[Mack 4033]

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[chrsplmr]

Marked, what were you running with those 3 screen shots? same programs? why is the amd cpu maxed @1.5gb of ram with only 44 processes and the 2600 is 89 processes....confusing a bit?
Is this really an apples to apples comparison? I know for a fact, Im not arguing..learning, I know for a fact..that running 7140 of 8gb was only 34% of the cpu on my video test....Can you disect these numbers a little better..if ya get a second or two..thnx.

Edit::: Note to all that trash cpu's and old hardware....... zip 18709...
Or as Marked suggests...somebody needs a puter...kids...++

[jewie27]

off topic, way off topic.

[Area 66]

it's on topic it was for show the power of Intel 4 cores compare to AMD 6 , now if you don't like what we talk about just don't read it.

the 1100t was folding with - smp 6 and produce 12 000 ppd and the 2600k was folding at same clock with -smp 7 and produce 20 000 ppd so it's a huge difference in power, a 4 cores + hyperthreading smash a AMD 6 cores , why the difference in process, well thte AMD is a server and the 2600k a worktation. the 990x was runing few VM, you can see the huge amount of ram it use , on one of the VM I was running a iSMP 6 ( half of the power of the cpu ) and I get 1 6000 ppd , but I have 4 VM open at the same time, so the 990x can run more PPD with 6 tread than an 1100t and still can run 4 more OS at same time ..... all those CPU was at stock.

all that to say it's not only the number of cores that count, quite few 4 cores Intel outperform 6 cores AMD not only in gaming but in CPU intensive usage.

[jewie27]

it's on topic it was for show the power of Intel 4 cores compare to AMD 6 , now if you don't like what we talk about just don't read it.


Off topic.

[jewie27]

November 15th is going to be here soon and still no Asus X79 chipset motherboards to be seen... I hope there is an ROG version in the works.

[raisethe3]

There is. Its called Rampage IV Extreme.

More news here:

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/21209/asus_intel_x79_chipset_based_system_gets_shown_at_ blizzcon_2011/index.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook


November 15th is going to be here soon and still no Asus X79 chipset motherboards to be seen... I hope there is an ROG version in the works.