GTX 580 Matrix owners club

[RonanC]

Join this thread if you are a proud owner of the MATRIX :D post up your oc results and settings and mods :D

1. RonanC (http://www.asusrog.com/forums/showthread.php?5636-GTX-580-Matrix-owners-club&p=41449&viewfull=1#post41449) - MAX OC 948Mhz @ 1150 Vcore
2. Brian@ASUS (http://www.asusrog.com/forums/showthread.php?5636-GTX-580-Matrix-owners-club&p=41193&viewfull=1#post41193) - MAX OC 1000Mhz @ 1200 Vcore
3. Cravinmild (http://www.asusrog.com/forums/showthread.php?5636-GTX-580-Matrix-owners-club&p=41524&viewfull=1#post41524) - MAX OC 1015Mhz @ 1293 Vcore

[Kipper]

Welcome to the forums RonanC

I will post back when I have some results, doing a review of the MATRIX right now.

[RonanC]

great stuff, maybe this thread can be made sticky!?!

[Brian@ASUS]

I am working on various performance metrics but since this is the Matrix owners club, thought id share some folding numbers and performance gains.
816, 900, 950, 1000mhz overclocks with GPU tweak and auto voltage lock.

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[RonanC]

nice results :D, I am in the process of testing my card atm will post results later :)

I see you can go up to 1.200 vcore on the last one, how are you achieving that the max I can go to is 1.150 ?

[Brian@ASUS]

well if you increase your coreclock and you run a benchmark and it doesnt crash you're most likely ok. now you can test this by running games or stresstest with furmark which taxes the gpu hardcore. it should show you whether your gpu oc is stable. if not you can increase your voltages to add extra power to keep it stable. or just go the easy route and use gpu tweak and use the locked voltage and core adjustments which is preconfigured. you will still need to run stresstest to ensure its stability. you should be able to achieve 950-1000 on matrix. once you find a sweet spot you can try to lower your voltage to see where it will be stable at without using too much power/voltage

[RonanC]

cheers for reply, Think I got a bad one :(

if I run anymore vcore other than stock my temps are hitting 95-100c even with fans on 100%

I dont seem to be getting artifacts when running furmark but rather a green screen followed by driver crash, temps are in the 90+ range when this happens, usually artifacts should appear first so I am thinking now that I may have a faulty card.

if I go anymore than 920 I have to up the vcore of coarse which in turn makes my temps go sky high, even using the locked-voltage and I set it at 950mhz and 100% fans I am crashing out and temps near 100c :(

this is the best I can do while keeping temps 85c

might try the h80 mod and see if things are better because I think its the heat thats holding me back, I thought 920 on stock vcore looked like it was going to be a promising card lol

[RonanC]

hey guys,

I have been testing most of this afternoon and I have decided to rethink my overclocking procedures with this card, for anyone else like me who thought they had heat issues I no longer use FURMARK for testing and instead use UNIGINE 2.5 with 8x aa. FURMARK will overheat the GPU more than any game or benchmark will and will put the card to its thermal limit so unless under water I would not recommend using FURMARK.

My new results so far are :

850Mhz
1075 Vcore
Fans: AUTO @ 20%
Max Temp: 67c

I have reached the brick wall with the max volts that GPU Tweak will allow, 950 crashes while 948 is perfectly stable.

948Mhz
1150 Vcore
Fabs: AUTO@ 20%
Max Temp 70c

Next is to do some testing with upping the voltage on the board itself up to around 1180 and see where that takes me, after that I will mod the bios and push the voltage to 1200.

[cravinmild]

RonanC

Your able to reach 1.293v off the overvoltage on the board itself before modding the bios but thats alot of volts if your mentioning your alrighty having heat issues. My max oc are higher using 3dMark11 vs Heaven 2.5 but both will allow me full voltages and still keep heat under 61c without crashing drivers. Note ive also modded a H70 to my matrix but even so i was able to reach 1000core/max voltage allowed by the Matrix with stock cooling and keep it at 92c. I agree that for a Matrix card you should not settle for under 1000 core/max voltage AND have heat controlled to sub 90c levels.

My cards max was 1027 benchmarkable (heaven 2.5) but i can run the flyby at 1067 (perhaps higher-just happen to be where i stopped the slider) but crashes the drivers when i benchmark it. 3dMark11 allows higher coreclocks but not by much...for me anyways. Seen you mentioned the "MOD" lol, need some help with that let me know, ive done two cards now.
Here is a screenshot of my latest benchmark. 1015core/1.293v/61c max temp

[cravinmild]

Ive been a bad boy and did some modding on my card.......again

Removed the IHS....lapped everything....applied new TIM....Artic Silver 5....H70 for cooling

Now i know i may have a difficult time with RMA but ill just deal with that if/when i need to. It should be noted right now that once you see this you cant unsee it and it may create the need to try it for yourself. BE WARNED! This will most likely void your warranty.

Now i know your going to look at this and think....so what! or big deal! its just a dude cooling his gpu with a H70.....been there done that. Now if you look closely youll notice the razerblade there also...hmmm, whats that for you may ask.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6116/6313827158_dd67a3c2d3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cravinmild/6313827158/)
IMGP0318 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cravinmild/6313827158/) by cravinmild (http://www.flickr.com/people/cravinmild/), on Flickr


Ill tell you what its for. Its so i can do this -this is where i void the warranty part. Notice the large rusty hammer...........cant be good. Purists may want to cover your eyes here.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6225/6313306835_76e1ae6be9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cravinmild/6313306835/)
IMGP0320 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cravinmild/6313306835/) by cravinmild (http://www.flickr.com/people/cravinmild/), on Flickr

OMG what have you done, your a MONSTER cravinmild......my word and the lord above what have you done child. There is no forgiveness for this type of thing, your doomed to ......... ya, ok, abit over the top i know. I like to be colorfull


Some lapping,
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6050/6313311875_601d0b6d14_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cravinmild/6313311875/)
IMGP0328 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cravinmild/6313311875/) by cravinmild (http://www.flickr.com/people/cravinmild/), on Flickr

Finnished job
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6214/6313837844_851ebc1406_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cravinmild/6313837844/)
IMGP0339 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cravinmild/6313837844/) by cravinmild (http://www.flickr.com/people/cravinmild/), on Flickr

For a complete log check it out here
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia-cooling/1086286-complete-build-log-zotac-560ti-corsair.html - Bottom of page two for this part of the mod.


Soooo can i be in your club too?

[RonanC]

Hi Cravin

I was not aware that you are able to overvolt on the board itself to 1.29 without modding the bios, can you explain how you did this? the max I am hitting is 1.18 with the onboard voltage adjustment all the way up,

your H70 mod looks awesome and also the lapping mod, was that hard to do? I am tempted to try this myself lol I bought this card to overclock and have some fun :D will the H80 be a better option than the h70? I can pickup a H80 for the same price as H70, aslo one other thing I see you are using ZIP ties to mount the H70 I would be a little dubious to rely on those if they melted and popped haha, I might try custom a metal bracket in the workshop instead.

Welcome to the club :D

[cravinmild]

Not sure why your not getting 1.293v off the board. total of .175v extra (buttons) 1.150+.125= 1.275v Could be that whole "every card is different" thing.....i cant really say. Also i may be out alittle on those overvoltage numbers but you get the idea of what im talking about.

Lapping was really easy 400 grit and then 1200 grit lightly sanded. i didnt use water....apparantly theres wet or dry way of doing it....

Your zip straps will NEVER bust as long as you buy the good ones...NEVER BUST and they will never get to the point of being hot that they melt or stretch. I and many others have done this and not one single issue. Its about quick and easy with the mod. I awoke to 20c the other day on my gpu. That said ive seen the bracket you can make in the thread on OCN. Looks very good and id like to see pics of the one your going to do.

the h80 will be much better than the h70. besides the better cooling it will offer you get longer hoses which will help ALOT and you get thinner hoses so they will be easyer to route. Ive got to place one along side the card and the mobo....thinner hoses will make that easyer. there is a fellow here who used his h60 on his matrix. check and youll see his pics

[RonanC]

I uninstalled GPU Tweak and tested again with buttons maxed out and then maxed out the slider in gpu tweak and I can confirm that I am getting 1267 vcore, not sure what was happening last time maybe it was a bug in the software..

If I go down the route of using zip ties I will buy a new batch, the ones I have are bout 20 years old haha I would like to give the metal bracket a go first though and see how I get on.

would you have a link handy for that thread on OCN?

Thanks


Not sure why your not getting 1.293v off the board. total of .175v extra (buttons) 1.150+.125= 1.275v Could be that whole "every card is different" thing.....i cant really say. Also i may be out alittle on those overvoltage numbers but you get the idea of what im talking about.

Lapping was really easy 400 grit and then 1200 grit lightly sanded. i didnt use water....apparantly theres wet or dry way of doing it....

Your zip straps will NEVER bust as long as you buy the good ones...NEVER BUST and they will never get to the point of being hot that they melt or stretch. I and many others have done this and not one single issue. Its about quick and easy with the mod. I awoke to 20c the other day on my gpu. That said ive seen the bracket you can make in the thread on OCN. Looks very good and id like to see pics of the one your going to do.

the h80 will be much better than the h70. besides the better cooling it will offer you get longer hoses which will help ALOT and you get thinner hoses so they will be easyer to route. Ive got to place one along side the card and the mobo....thinner hoses will make that easyer. there is a fellow here who used his h60 on his matrix. check and youll see his pics

[cravinmild]

Good to know your volts are showing correctly, more understandable of the heat being so high as its not 1.150v but closer to 1.3v lol.

I can get that link for you but OCN is down at the moment. Seems they are preparing for a new facelift. Ill post the link once they are back up and running. From what i seen it looked very solid for a bracket and the writeup was well done, good pics and good descriptions. Lots of replys and interest. If it was not so much work i would have gone for it myself.

PS. Thanks for adding me to the list.

My volts posted are low though, check the graph and youll see my max voltage was higher than what you wrote. I ll get less lazy and redo 3dmark11 on older drivers....pretty sure if i lossen the mem timings i can post a higher core clock. Not to say 1015 is all that bad.

[RonanC]

to be honest I was getting the crazy temps because of FURMARK with everything stock I was still hitting 80+c in it, I defo wont be using it again as it does not reflect actualy real world usage, great if you want to see if your fans are working correct lol

yep I tried to log onto OCN last night but was down for me too, that be great if you could send the link when it comes back up ;)

Edited my post to reflect the proper vcore :D

hopefully we can get more MATRIX owners to join in on this thread so we can build up a list and maybe create a database of what sort of overclocks people are achieving because lets face it you dont buy a MATRIX to leave it stock lol pure waste if that is the case lol

this club is also open to LN2 and DICE owners ;)

[Need-To-Know]

Ok I am starting to get bummed out with my card. Matrix 580
All stock speed -
Sometimes it idles at 33c but most of the time (98%) it idles at 55c.

If the card is idling at 55c I can not play games without it getting to 100c and then most games crash or BSD.

I have tried 100% on the fans with GPU Tweak but really does not change anything.

If the card idles at 33c and I play a game (like B3 or Shogun2) the card stays at a respectable 55c even when everything is maxed out in the graphics settings of the game.

I had hopes of OC this card but it can not even handle stock speeds. :confused:

Any advice where to turn? Sorry of I am on the wrong thread...:o

Bios is up to date, as well as all other drivers. I spent my whole Thanksgiving trying to get this to work but nothing can keep those temps down.

[cravinmild]

Well the obsidian is not known for the best air flow, limited intake. The first thing....im sure you have tried alrighty, is to run the case with the side panel off and see if the temps drop. If they drop then i would try for some better intake fans. Second would be to ask the ambiant temps. Whats your room temp. Those are the easy ones, things can get alittle more complicated after this.

More extreme mesures would be to reapply thermal paste, MX4 or equilvilant/better. You could go more exotic and watercool that baby. There are a few watercooled matrix cards ive seen, one dude over on the nvidia forums has mentioned that he just made his own blocks.....machinest type...lucky guy. I had to strap a Corsair Hydro series cpu cooler to mine (H70) and fastened it with zipstraps. Just dropped my temps to 19c idle, see my build log here on ROG Forums.

Post all the cards temps...board, power, mem and the voltages of each of them too, it could help see an issue which could be an RMA thing. Ive had my card oc to 1017 benchmarkable. Another user here who used a Corsair H60/zipstraps has benched his card at 1035mhz and had good temps with it that high.


Just a note here, you havent by mistake raised the voltages on the card using the increase voltage buttons have you. They should be not led lights lit up along those buttons....i know, i know but things get overlooked.

[fireholt]

hello, I am new to OC my self and if this my problem too really havent touched any OC landmarks and iam still far from it , but this is a forum,try to lock in system programs and look if your using NVidia drivers,without any help on this forums apparently you can't run NVidia drivers and run this card ASUS 580 MATRAX you can only use the driver CD that was provided then update your drivers to go one more uninstall drivers just to get you started you may have to do this to your nice and new safe mode button hold down tell you reboot to windows and hit yes to default BIOS for VIDEO CARD and reboot . you may have known this is guarded by the a reboot and only install your ASUS matrix 580 DRIVER CD then you update.

and yes cravinmild the L.E.D'S mean more color

[cravinmild]

were you drunk when you wrote this? ^^^^

[Need-To-Know]

Thanks guys for your responses. Here are some answers:

Yes the temp drops by about 10 degrees with the side off. So what do you think the best way to add fans? Add three on the top pulling air out of the case? I can poach three 40mm out of my old computer. BTW i have dusted everything (there was hardly any dust at all and none on the fins)

Temps in the room - I live in Florida with the ocean right outside of my office window - so I keep my AC on to insure no humility. Most of the time I have to wear a coat as I keep it freezing in here.

I am so ready for extreme measures...hehe - I will order the MX4 today. I like the water cooling but not sure I am ready to void my card yet in case it is an RMA. I wish there was an aftermarket setup instead of me having to zip tie everything. I did spend time last night looking over the procedure for that.

So I do have a confession - Apparently I have had the fans running at 100% for the last three months. Since the 100% button has been pushed - I know what a dumb ass - I thought the light was suppose to stay on because I never touched it or any of the other buttons + or -. But before you say - I do not think the fans on the card are burnt out, but could that be a possibility - they seem fine with both turning and cycling up fine.
WOW it is so much quieter when running on auto settings in the GPU Tweak....hehe.

Since you asked - I looked at the voltage buttons and the lights next to them were out - I pressed the plus and got one green light - so I guess that is not the issue.

Here are the numbers with case side off and GPU Tweak set to auto (and no programs running) Also no lights by the + and - on the card.

http://www.skinnypixel.com/Clients/Overclocking/GPU.jpg


http://www.skinnypixel.com/Clients/Overclocking/GPU2.jpg

fireholt:
I will try that today as well.

Thanks again guys, I actually started looking for a replacement/different card this morning but really just want to keep this card if it works.

Also I contacted Asus support (email) with all of the details but do not expect much from them. But will post what they reply if it is note worthy.

[cravinmild]

Honestly from what i can see and from what you have said your heat issue can be fixed with just some alterations to the case...ie adding some fans in the right spots. Your going to need 120mm fans, idk if 40mm will even move the amount of air you require. If you want to keep it all quiet then pick up some 120mm that have built in rpm control. These are cheap fans, 5-10$ apiece. They have a toggle switch inline that gives you 3 preset rpm controls. I have many of them but they arent that nice to look at so i changed them out for nicer fans and a dedicated fan controller. Exaust out the top and again exaust out the back. If i remember right youll have a bottom intake spot and another in the bottom front of the case, use these for intake fans, 120mm also. I had a small case which had limited intake for air also. I used the drivebays and zipstraped 120mm fans in there to pull addional air into the case. The 800d is a MASSIVE case, how is your wire routing, is it a rats nest in there, proper wire managment goes along ways in keeping good air flow inside the case.

If your willing to you could redo the TIM, but i think your problems will be taken care of with just adding some more fans. I would not suggest changing your gpu out, you have one of the best cards/the best card on the market currently. Only the MSI Lightning Extreme card is in the same class as the Matrix. The msi card is consitered the best my many but ill say the Matrix is.

Dont worry about running the fans at 100%, you should be able to run the fans at 100% for the life of the card and not have any issues, they are made well and its within specs. No worrys there. Damm that must be loud. I have 12 fans in my HAF 932 and i dont hear it start up....i can hear the hdd spin but just.

Remember that "the mod" is not destructive, you can return the card to stock and noone is the wiser, your allowed to replace thermal paste on the cooler, put the card back together with the stock cooler and your golden.

All your temp readings look good, no different than mine. No worrys there. If you need more help just keep asking questions and someone will help you here or on most other forums, pc builders are a very friendly bunch.

[RonanC]

I never used the included driver cd, I downloaded latest drivers from NVIDIA and never had any issues..

[cravinmild]

It should be noted though, the included drivers on the cd give me the highest oc potential. benchmarkable at 1027 vs all other drivers at 1017. latest drivers at 1015core

[Need-To-Know]

Ok to update:

For a couple of days the card ran at 33c and was great! I was afraid to turn off the computer for fear of losing the nice cool temps. BF3 running with full settings at 57c - it was grand!

I did everything recommended and made the case freezing cold but alas it is not to be. I started the computer today and stuck at 55c (idle). Tried playing BF3 and locked 5 times with temps at 101c. (5 restarts and a day of trying to fix too)

I have contacted Asus and will be RMA this card as it is for sure a faulty card from the hours I have spent researching this. Seems it has happened to others the exact same way.

I appreciate the suggestions and have a nice cool case now. :)

Looking forward to having a real working card...so I can OC it and heat it back up.....kidding.

[cravinmild]

well as much as that sucks the bright side is you get a spanky new card. New shinny things are nice to have. Heres hoping it gets to you soon ;)

[Need-To-Know]

Here is a follow up to the posting I made back in Nov 2011.

So from my original posting of overheat problems I sent my card in on RMA. It took a few weeks and they sent my card back. Upon opening the box and ready to use my repaired/replaced card I was shocked to find it physically damaged and unusable.

Yes the card was sent back to me with actual physical damage. See pics below. I could also see it was the original card I had sent in because the thermal paste that had been over flowing from when I originally bought the card was still there. Note I had never removed the heat-sink or altered the card in any way. So on an overheating card they had never removed the heat-sink while repairing it? I am not a service tech so maybe they did not have to, just seems they would.

When I sent the card in the card in it had NO physical damage what so ever and it looked brand new when I packed it up.

I inspected the box from the RMA facility and even the packing but nothing was damaged to either of them. So the card actually got packed up and sent to me in this condition.

I contact Asus support with in minutes. After several attempts (and always remaining polite and very patient as I do support for my company too) I finally received another RMA as well as a much appreciated pre-paid shipping label.

I packed the card back up in the box from the RMA facility and sent it back in.

They have had it for a little while and I decided to track the progress via the Asus support website only to find my RMA number is not in the database. So I re contacted the support person that had issued my RMA and he said he would get back to me but never did.

Then I receive another RMA number and prepaid shipping label......? For the card I had already sent in...? So I contacted the support person again to find out why and now I get no response. I do not know what to do. I have the confirmation that the card was delivered and signed for at the RMA facility. But no one will tell me what is going on. I fear they have lost it or something.

This is also frustrating because the Asus support rep told me they will not replace the psychically damaged card and only repair it due to no more stock. IMHO if no more stock then the fair/honorable/standard thing to do would be replace it with a card of equal value.

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[SoF]

I'm really "pushing it" but still not tested the pex-vdd yet which really seems to do something...

I am still not beaten at the Unigine DX9 global contest at hwbot - matrix magic (http://hwbot.org/challenge/sofs_unigine_heaven___basic_preset_(dx9)_global_ch allenge___feb_1_2012_until_mar_2_2012/) haha :D
7970 is useless without tezzelaitionz tweakzz :P

GPU temp does not improve anything past 1020 on air (30-70°C under load all the same)...I tested, believe me or this screen...VDD my arse soon in that climate chamber :D

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And this is the time a MATRIX-infected overclocker has to admit "it's done, when the sun goes up"...

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Happy matrix'in from here :cool:

[cravinmild]

need-to-know,

Wow, really youve not had a good go of things here and you have handled it much better than i think i would have. Completely unacceptable, without excuse and this imo needs to be fixed and acknowledged asap by asus. I can not understand how the ball could be dropped so badly and at so many levels. Orignial card is defective, RMA, YOUR UNFIXED CARD IS SENT BACK TO YOU-with physical damage, RMA again, Told there is NO STOCK TO REPLACE it with, RMA LOST, Shippng label sent to return RETURNED CARD. Wow, guess bad luck happens in tens with you.

At the point you were told that all stock has been depleted then that is the point where your money should have been offered to be refunded as there is NOTHING they have that is on par to replace this card with and another new card for exchange can not be found.

There is no excuse for this level of incompetance and from so many different parts of the proccess. Phone support, tech support, RMA support, no not even have an rep answer your pleas within this very forum is a disgrace.

Youve mentioned "always remaining polite and very patient as I do support for my company too" so ill say it for you, WTF, ASUS, GIVE THIS POOR MAN HIS MONEY BACK, DONT OFFER ANOTHER POS CARD IN EXCHANGE, HELL GIVE HIM TWO CARDS FOR HIS PAIN AND SUFFERING AND CHARGE THE BILL TO THE MEATHEAD/S RETARD/S RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS HORRABLE CUSTOMER SERVICE, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELFS. There, i said it for you, now you dont have to feel bad about saying it yourself

I still think my asus matrix is a beast card but after seeing this i will most certainly rethink buying from asus again. I would hate to have to deal with this myself.

Hope this works out for you and soon. I would expect nothing less than delivery via airmail, as the good companys would do this in an effort to rectify the situation.

[Need-To-Know]

Thanks cravinmind, (and thanks for your previous help too)

Well at least you gave me a chuckle about it. Which there have not been many chuckles about all of this.

It is like a twilight zone movie. I built my system for a few thousand dollars (with all Asus products - including MAXIMUS IV EXTREME (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67, etc.) also buying software that can only run with good frame rates with these components. So not only do they put my entire new system on hold for all of these months but software too.

I wonder if it is understood by Asus what a person goes through at times like this. Checking email several times a day, praying that there has been a resolution to the problem, every-time I hear a delivery truck my heart jumps thinking it is my card being returned. Looking at new software and technologies that I have not been able to use even after my investment of several thousands of dollars.

And now trying to figuring out how to budget another $600 to buy a another video card because I the feeling I get is my card has been stolen & vandalized. Sorry to put it that way Asus, but look at it from my point.

It also makes me have to research for a new company to buy my computer components from because I am afraid to buy Asus equipment.

I had another product (a monitor) go bad and the manufacturer send me a new one right away and call tag for the broken one. Since then I have bought many of their TVs and several more monitors and from my endorsement my family and friends have all bought products from them, so they made thousands by giving great customer service.

My heart hangs heavy with disappointment and what appears now as a loss of money.

Take Care cavinmind

As I always say - "Character is much easier kept than recovered."

[cravinmild]

I forgot to add this to the post but ill just through it out there now. There is one card that is better than the Matrix............MARS II

I would expect that that would be the card they must send you now, im sure there are many of those cards in stock, not like those are flying off the shelfs, more so now that nvidia has a new card out soon and its dead tech...more or less. Hows your powersuppy lol