View Full Version : Project Thief - CaseLabs TX10-D Dual Workstation/Gaming Build - Gulftown and SB-E
stren
01-19-2012, 04:23 PM
First off - thanks to my sponsors - CaseLabs (http://caselabs-store.com/), Monsoon Cooling (http://www.monsooncooling.com/), DT Waterblocks (http://www.dtwaterblocks.com/), Primochill (http://www.primochill.com/), Corsair (http://www.corsair.com/), EK Waterblocks (http://www.ekwb.com), Lutro0 Customs (http://lutro0-customs.com/) and Alphacool (http://www.alphacool.com)
http://caselabs.net/CaseLabsStoreLogo.png
http://cdn.overclock.net/3/3e/600x211px-LL-3e08235d_lcbanner.jpeg
http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh545/goatsongoats/monsoon.png
http://i.imgur.com/X6yoR.jpg
http://www.primochill.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/primochill_logo_no_background-e1349637938415.png
http://www.corsair.com/us/skin/frontend/enterprise/corsair/images/logoCorsair.png
http://www.ekwb.com/images/ekwb_logo.png
http://unique-pcs.net/banner3.jpg
The full build log will be posted on here and on my website - however it may get fractured into multiple posts here, so if you want an easy read go here (http://www.extremerigs.net/), you can also subscribe to my youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/extremerigsdotnet) if you so wish.
Mods if I'm breaking any rules please let me know - I'm new here so not sure how ROG works.
Current Status
Case:
http://i.imgur.com/B91tEh.jpg
Random cool photo of the week:
http://i.imgur.com/mqct6l.jpg
Index
To be done when I'm less lazy ;)
And so it begins
The project name is not finalized so suggestions are welcome - I thought of thief because it dual wields and it steals all my money!
I am working on a huge monster build that will showcase CaseLabs newest case - the monster TX10. This monster case can fit two SR-2 (HPTX) systems with full water cooling. As shown it could fit multiple Mo-Ra 140x9 raditors, or 6 140.4 radiators. It can even fit front mounted 140.5 radiators.
The main feature will be two giant custom waterfall reservoirs that will occupy the front bays.
Here is the current hardware that I have to go in:
http://i.imgur.com/uvDvl.jpg
Unboxing Videos and Pics
I picked up the case directly from Jim - so the packing was reduced in order to fit in my car. If you buy one of these it will come in two boxes as it's packed a lot more securely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqwGFFfPLQ4&context=C3322918ADOEgsToPDskI2H2Nz8m3_IbQaLgVUrd0R
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqPqH7rvIZA&context=C3953b0bADOEgsToPDskI8m9W8hEnOrEc9aEr83gWw
http://i.imgur.com/CV6ZOh.jpg
Lots of Parts
http://i.imgur.com/bBJIAh.jpg
Building the case
As Jim knew the case was going to be powder coated by FTWPC he saved FTW the hassle of sandblasting it by skipping the CaseLabs normal black/white powder coat. Because of this the case is not only in it's raw bare aluminum state, but it also is less assembled than normal in order to save on time taking everything apart.
http://i.imgur.com/T6Kz7h.jpg
The Pedestal frame consist of top, bottom, front and back that are screwed together with countersunk screws
stren
01-19-2012, 04:25 PM
http://i.imgur.com/x6zV3h.jpg
Screwing the casters in
http://i.imgur.com/r2JOth.jpg
These are the spring clips that hold the panels on - they hold the panels tight, while still be pretty easy to remove for changing your loop up
http://i.imgur.com/BwtRZh.jpg
Pedestal frame with one of the clipped side panel and the back plate screwed on
http://i.imgur.com/cdN99h.jpg
Pedestal with all panels attached except the top/bottom cover
http://i.imgur.com/lTvUNh.jpg
Main case frame coming together, this is the view from the back showing the holes for the dual vertical motherboard trays
http://i.imgur.com/T0NZ3h.jpg
Case + Pedestal with XXL window fitted on one side
Here's a quick video of the partially assembled case
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwrso0sehdo&context=C3773919ADOEgsToPDskJgx8bloxEVpne2XhAzGKgU
stren
01-19-2012, 04:26 PM
Choosing colors for the powder coat
To make sure I was making the right choice on the color I decided to get some card and tape it to the frame. I removed the acrylic window and used a grey piece of card to model the motherboard:
http://i.imgur.com/ZviRNh.jpg
Metallic Charcoal Grey and Metallic Crimson Red
http://i.imgur.com/dGzCFh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OTFFLh.jpg
Metallic Charcoal Grey, Pearl White and Crimson Red
http://i.imgur.com/bNZerh.jpg
Metallic Charcoal Grey with Metallic Pearl White
http://i.imgur.com/XS0rQh.jpg
These are the colors I think I've decided on:
Outside:
http://www.prismaticpowders.com/uploaded/thumbnails/db_file_img_5313_325xauto.jpg
Inside:
http://www.prismaticpowders.com/uploaded/thumbnails/db_file_img_4471_325xauto.jpg
stren
01-19-2012, 04:27 PM
Samples finally came in:
http://i.imgur.com/Yshfe.jpg
I'm thinking the galaxy grey 2 (#5) and the silver/white (#2)
stren
01-19-2012, 04:28 PM
2nd AX1200 also arrived - time for a group shot:
http://i.imgur.com/TwL48l.jpg
Picked up another D5 and a bitspower dual d5 top, they should be shipped on friday
stren
01-19-2012, 04:29 PM
Thought you guys might want to see some pics of the existing hardware that will be *partly* reused as well as some of the new pieces. Apologies that the photos aren't that great, my wife took the camera with her tonight so I had to use my phone.
Here's my modded Antec 300 that contains my gaming rig (i7-920, Rampage III Extreme, 3xGTX480, Xonar STX, AX1200). When the workstation gets SB-E this will get the 990x. Note that one gentle typhoon is stopped - I unsoldered the power wire because it's out of balance so the noise is annoying.
http://i.imgur.com/J1vIc.jpg
Here's the front of the case with the space efficient but bubbly Koolance dual D5 reservoir as well as the dual 24V controller. I'll be using this reservoir until the 18 bay FTW reservoirs come in. No dvd drive, I removed it after installing windows and a couple of games. Most other games I have are on origin/steam.
http://i.imgur.com/y4DNR.jpg
Here's the interior - cable routing isn't perfect because I knew I was moving to the TX10 soon. I'll also be replacing all the blue LEDs with reds to match the ROG theme a bit better:
http://i.imgur.com/Hcn6a.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EdyJj.jpg
Here's the workstation in it's current temporary incarnation in a DD torture rack. i7-990x on an asus p6t. LSI raid card, 3 ssds and 3 hard drives and a 8800gt to drive the monitors. It has the H100 cooler temporarily and as you can see it needs some sleeving work:
http://i.imgur.com/EdyJj.jpg
Here's a front shot showing the push/pull AP15's on the H100, they perform about as well as the stock 2600rpm corsair fans at max, but with a *lot* less noise
http://i.imgur.com/E8Xi3.jpg
Trident + turbulence memory - back in the day this was sweet stuff 3x4gb @ 2000-8-9-8, now of course you can get better for a lot less money haha such is progress!
And now for some parts waiting to be installed - vintage EK gpu block:
http://i.imgur.com/QY1i5.jpg
My old rasa block - I'm hoping to not use this and instead get a second raystorm soon - note the o-rings on the barbs seem to be dying:
http://i.imgur.com/UZzmd.jpg
EK 250 res and DDC-1 for the worksation gpu and motherboard loop that will be self contained on the motherboard tray.
http://i.imgur.com/Tn0tn.jpg
That's about all the fun stuff I can show for now!
stren
01-19-2012, 04:31 PM
sneak peak of powder coat
http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx315/Smasherbasher/Mods%20for%20customers/276b3a43.jpg
stren
01-19-2012, 04:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/PAKCsl.jpg
and that brings us up to date!
chrsplmr
01-19-2012, 04:43 PM
Incredible...
...it was like seeing black&red..built for real...almost.
with the exception of the board and the size of the case...
what a beast...cudos...looking forward to this thread...thnx.c.
stren
01-19-2012, 04:52 PM
Incredible...
...it was like seeing black&red..built for real...almost.
with the exception of the board and the size of the case...
what a beast...cudos...looking forward to this thread...thnx.c.
Thank you! I'm looking forward to it too haha. What do you mean by seeing black and red?
xeromist
01-19-2012, 05:03 PM
Thank you! I'm looking forward to it too haha. What do you mean by seeing black and red?
It's an art project he's working on. Linked in his sig.
stren
01-19-2012, 05:05 PM
It's an art project he's working on. Linked in his sig.
D'oh - checking it out now :)
DaemonCantor
01-19-2012, 05:44 PM
Great Case I need one!
stren
02-01-2012, 12:46 AM
My testpack of monsoon fittings arrived today, these are the 3/8 ID 5/8 OD
http://i.imgur.com/I8O6rl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OHMnNl.jpg
With primochill tube:
http://i.imgur.com/CuVNrl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cJptWl.jpg
WhitePaw
02-01-2012, 12:55 AM
Great thread, superb work...
stren
02-02-2012, 05:38 AM
Thanks! Seeing as my boss gave me the week off (why not a raise?) for having to work like crazy the last month I decided to test out some of the components that came in on my workstation. for the last few months it's been running the H100 cooler, now it's time to switch it to partial watercooling.
In the end the workstation will have two loops:
1 - CPU (raystorm) - mora 140.9 - dual D5 varios
2- GPU (8800gt) - GPU (9800gt) - motherboard - DDC-1 - RX360
The GPU's only do 2D, so there's very little heat on loop2. Both loops will eventually run with low speed yates and I'm hoping it should be close to silent while giving excellent overclocking performance on the cpu.
As I don't have 4 D5's yet (still one short) I'll be temporarily running this loop with a DDC. I picked up one of the NOS ones from bmaverick, they're not that powerful but this won't be driving a critical loop. I picked up an xspc acrylic top (later I'll run some dye for the money shots):
http://i.imgur.com/UGvWQl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vE1xQl.jpg
However the XSPC screws don't fit the old DDC's so I had to drill out the holes a bit larger
http://i.imgur.com/Y8jD4l.jpg
Done:
http://i.imgur.com/A7PZGl.jpg
Then with the EK 250 res fitted. I used a bitspower shining silver male to male rotary fitting to attach them:
http://i.imgur.com/o4uhXl.jpg
Also remember that talk about the acyrylic vs delrin 8800gt blocks, well I ordered the acrylics and they arrived the other day:
http://i.imgur.com/M0Fa6l.jpg
They do look sexier!
http://i.imgur.com/LorbIl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/awZe0l.jpg
Taking apart the 8800gt:
http://i.imgur.com/vEp7ml.jpg
stren
02-02-2012, 05:39 AM
Then I realized I didn't have any non-conductive TIM left, so I put it to the side and put the 9800gt in for now. Built up the temporary cpu loop in the torture rack
http://i.imgur.com/rkWyXl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DWBlhl.jpg
Kind of a funky radiator setup - the torture rack only supports 240 rads, so I ran 2 fans in push and 2 fans in pull. I have 12 more gentle typhoons coming from the ocn group buy:
http://i.imgur.com/rrwssl.jpg
Then more stuff came:
http://i.imgur.com/hzGPwl.jpg
Fan adapters for the gtx 560, plus rubber fan isolators. Not sure if they'll do much but they were cheap if I bought the adapters, so I picked some up:
http://i.imgur.com/OlFdol.jpg
stren
02-07-2012, 04:46 AM
So I'd been suffering wrist pain after pulling 20 hour days working on CAD stuff. This isn't unusual when I'm forced to use a bad mouse or a bad setup, but my trusty G5 on a bare desk wasn't cutting it. I decided to try a "gaming" mousepad and thought I'd check out a razer deathadder while I was doing it. After a few weeks of it I actually prefer the feel of it despite the construction feeling less sturdy and having less features than my trusty G5. The G5 now gets relegated to the gaming rig as I game less than I work :(
http://i.imgur.com/Y507rl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KCbi5l.jpg
Also parts for my lightsabre came in ;)
http://i.imgur.com/cjtCXl.jpg
kb0sdq
02-07-2012, 03:22 PM
Very cool, I also have the death adder I use it for wow. Anyhow I have the right hand version. I like how you can go into the mouse and program the buttons and make macros for the mouse.
Happy ROG_n
Doug
stren
02-07-2012, 05:04 PM
Very cool, I also have the death adder I use it for wow. Anyhow I have the right hand version. I like how you can go into the mouse and program the buttons and make macros for the mouse.
Happy ROG_n
Doug
Nice- I haven't tried any of the fancy stuff yet, just straight up out of the box though it's working better for me than my G5 after a lot of tweaking.
stren
02-09-2012, 11:39 PM
Seeing as we're all a bit bored waiting for the case to come home, here's some more hardware:
http://i.imgur.com/Fdqbul.jpg
CjGemini
02-15-2012, 08:18 PM
Stren you are everywhere :p
stren
02-15-2012, 08:49 PM
Stren you are everywhere :p
Lol so it seems are you :)
stren
02-19-2012, 05:36 AM
Tease mode activated
A box arrived
http://i.imgur.com/eyRMRl.jpg
You said flap :rolleyes:
http://i.imgur.com/B84Ajl.jpg
The largest usb flash drives known to man and some awesome sauce:
http://i.imgur.com/6HFzbl.jpg
Sometimes the front view is better than the back:
http://i.imgur.com/W3ITTl.jpg
Opening a door:
http://i.imgur.com/Q2jeDl.jpg
Socket 2011 is bigger than I thought:
http://i.imgur.com/9o66Ol.jpg
Inside the box is two more boxes:
http://i.imgur.com/mbaW7l.jpg
- Curiously only a 2x CFX cable, but yet 2/3/4x SLI cables
- The sata 6gbps cables are black with partly white connectors as opposed to full black for the rest of the cables.
- The OC key that plugs inline with your monitor doesn't support high res monitors - bit of a fail there Asus. Shouldn't affect me as I can use the USB cable from my other rig anyway
- It would be nice if the back of the backplate was also black rather than the shiny tin foil like other boards
http://i.imgur.com/HIoGLl.jpg
And the last tease for the night:
http://i.imgur.com/QwMfNl.jpg
stren
02-19-2012, 08:08 PM
Had some time for another photo session seeing as the cpu doesn't get here for a few days:
Took the board out:
http://i.imgur.com/xwl5Ol.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0Dfj6l.jpg
Took the ram out, seems to be the fastest I've seen at 1.5V with 4GB sticks.
http://i.imgur.com/8Lkv1l.jpg
Installed the ram, note that the polarity is reversed on each side, which makes sense if they flipped the pinout on the chip.
http://i.imgur.com/Kv7HMl.jpg
The paint job on the fins wasn't that even - some sticks definitely got more coverage:
http://i.imgur.com/AQE1Vl.jpg
Time to take off the heatsink in preperation for the EK full cover block:
http://i.imgur.com/FLpRnl.jpg
Only the VRM area had thermal pads on the back and front of the heatsink:
http://i.imgur.com/FYzj0l.jpg
Looks like Asus have moved away from that horrible yellow TIM they had on the R3E:
http://i.imgur.com/CZceNl.jpg
The VRM area with heatsink removed:
http://i.imgur.com/hp6yQl.jpg
stren
02-21-2012, 02:17 AM
Chip arrived, motherboard and ram blocks don't come until tomorrow though.
SSD is actually for my wife's rig. I don't have an ssd on my gaming rig. I only use it for games so I wouldn't see that much benefit from a boot drive. I use my workstation for web browsing etc as it's on all the time. I'd need a 512gb drive or so to cover my games, so I'm waiting for prices to come down more
http://i.imgur.com/jqNlXl.jpg
Batch on the 3930K is 3152B448, we'll see how it clocks soon :)
Hillguy
02-21-2012, 09:01 PM
Nice build , man that case is Huge , I want one :cool:
stren
02-22-2012, 03:36 AM
Nice build , man that case is Huge , I want one :cool:
Thanks dude - you can get em from caselabs.net, this case isn't in the webstore yet but if you call Jim he can hook you up. They have a forum on overclock.net where you can see more photos etc :)
Another update:
Suddenly a wild EK party!
http://i.imgur.com/UQOsIl.jpg
Nickel plexi because I want to run some red dye (on special occasions only for all you dye haters out there)
http://i.imgur.com/eSbFQl.jpg
Finished cleaning the TIM off the south bridge only to find a piece of tin foil with more TIM underneath. Weird.
http://i.imgur.com/dsfURl.jpg
Pretty easy to install when the block is in two parts, the single piece blocks are much harder:
http://i.imgur.com/SeqTAl.jpg
VRM area:
http://i.imgur.com/lMeafl.jpg
Full board:
http://i.imgur.com/Kt9rKl.jpg
and one more:
http://i.imgur.com/idFEml.jpg
That's all for now
stren
02-23-2012, 05:51 PM
No comments? ROG peeps don't like water? Then you may not like this ;)
With ram blocks, the fittings aren't the final ones, just more for planning. I'm working with Monsoon free to see if something special will make the tube routing super clean ;)
http://i.imgur.com/D7x2Wl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TVsUAl.jpg
the ram blocks remind me of battersea power station:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Battersea.power.station.london.arp.jpg/592px-Battersea.power.station.london.arp.jpg
Now adding in the gpu makes it look ugly and busy :( The copper and green pcb really don't match. I called a nickel plating company to get a quote on plating both copper GPU blocks and it was $175 for both! So that's not going to happen. I may switch to the other acetal/copper block and paint the edge of the copper silver. I have another idea for the PCB ;)
http://i.imgur.com/xT4Kvl.jpg
Much better with the gpu off again
http://i.imgur.com/lf16ml.jpg
Danm
Can I be your friend?
Danm
Clopyright
02-23-2012, 06:24 PM
Nice work comrade, although i was never a fan of "RAMs in the water" game....
stren
02-25-2012, 01:20 AM
Danm
Can I be your friend?
Danm
Sure haha, this friendship may come without benefits though lol
Nice work comrade, although i was never a fan of "RAMs in the water" game....
Yeah me neither, but I thought I'd give it ago this time
Soo like I mentioned before I really didn't like the green/copper look clashing with the black/red R4E theme:
http://i.imgur.com/xT4Kvl.jpg
So I started to paint the GPU with liquid tape - first coat:
http://i.imgur.com/Y7AOtl.jpg
So here's how it looks now after two coats on both sides:
http://i.imgur.com/HFo5wl.jpg
You can see some of the texture here, liquid tape is hard to work with - either annoyingly thick, or very thin and see through:
http://i.imgur.com/1xGQhl.jpg
From this angle the texture isn't as bad:
http://i.imgur.com/zCcwAl.jpg
However it would look a lot better with a backplate, I'm thinking something like this, smoked acrylic with an etch and a couple of LEDs to light it from the side:
http://i.imgur.com/yBnuyl.jpg
What do you guys think? Feel free to photoshop up your own suggestions :)
stren
02-28-2012, 01:13 AM
The temporary parts came in to see if I could get some clean routing for the motherboard/ram/gpu loop:
http://i.imgur.com/rh2orl.jpg
However it didn't quite work as expected- I couldn't get the 40mm extensions to work with the 5 way rotary snake, however a SLI connector did fit.
http://i.imgur.com/odVJJl.jpg
Now I'm not sure whether to:
- get two more sli connectors (I need this one)
- use two compression fittings instead
- get two of the bitspower crystal sli links to match better
What do you guys think?
I should probably go with the cheapest as I'm hoping monsoon free's new design will solve the problem for me.
DaemonCantor
02-28-2012, 02:18 AM
Looking Fantastic, My opinion is why not just go for what looks the best as well as performs the best for your application.
stren
03-01-2012, 03:28 AM
Looking Fantastic, My opinion is why not just go for what looks the best as well as performs the best for your application.
True - I went with the bitspower crystal SLI links for now, hopefully they'll arrive tomorrow. Here's an alternative crossover tubing style that looks too busy:
http://i.imgur.com/2Dfoal.jpg
Thanks ROG for making me #1 on your mods roundup for feb. Now I'll try and make it awesome enough to be on there every month :)
http://i.imgur.com/l7q6ml.jpg
stren
03-03-2012, 04:05 AM
Got some more parts today:
http://i.imgur.com/8V4MWl.jpg
3 ssds and a bunch of fittings:
http://i.imgur.com/SvwuDl.jpg
This meant I could do some leak testing with the gpu/motherboard/ram loop. Still missing the other gpu for now though, but the important thing was to see if the ram block connections were good:
http://i.imgur.com/svbBll.jpg
You can see water on the bottom right of the board. The GPU didnt' have it's spare ports sealed tightened down properly. Didnt' see that leak for a few minutes as it was dripping down the back of the block and was mainly hidden by the card and the block. You can see it coming out and filling up the pci-e socket:
http://i.imgur.com/Kb7qrl.jpg
The bitspower crystal linke sli fittings were part of the order too. The closest one in this photo leaked initially as it had fallen out of the o-ring. They're not that sturdy so it's a bit concerning that they might fall out. We'll have to see how it goes.
http://i.imgur.com/RWC9ql.jpg
The top view is much nicer now though:
http://i.imgur.com/bg9xYl.jpg
With red dye the crystal links won't look so out of place.
That's all for now. Case should be back from powder coating with another 14 gentle typhoons on tuesday, so expect a big update then :) Until then the board can dry out a bit ;) I need more time for working on the backplates and the reservoirs.
DaemonCantor
03-03-2012, 04:22 AM
Now that looks really good! I think you chose very well! I can't wait to see it with the red dye now!
stren
03-05-2012, 03:07 AM
Now that looks really good! I think you chose very well! I can't wait to see it with the red dye now!
Me too :) I'm so impatient for this bulid haha. Gotta practice patient to get it perfect though.
I'd also like to welcome my newest sponsor - DT Waterblocks (http://www.dtwaterblocks.com/). I'll be using and reviewing their new cpu waterblock the "5Noz".
http://martinsliquidlab.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/web-dt5noz-withbackplate.jpg
This is the lowest restriction block out there - from Martin's Preview: (http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/02/27/dt-5-noz-cpu-block-preview/)
http://martinsliquidlab.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/dt5noz-pressuredrop2b.png
It'll be interesting to see how it does vs the raystorm which is one of the top blocks out there.
stren
03-13-2012, 11:17 PM
Alright boys and girls, you haven't had an update in some time cause the forums have been down so much, so here's a few at once:
stren
03-13-2012, 11:18 PM
Unboxing pics:
http://i.imgur.com/CHJ1Ul.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QwjBAl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yb3R8l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/77R1Rl.jpg
2 motherboard trays are better than one:
http://i.imgur.com/HwSRPl.jpg
Some accessories:
http://i.imgur.com/yidLSl.jpg
These are only the frame parts - the exterior skin is still at smasher's place:
http://i.imgur.com/P7Yj4l.jpg
"Super Mounts" - From top: 120x4, 140x4, 180x3 and 5 way hard drive flex bay mount (120x5)
http://i.imgur.com/P1Prjl.jpg
Pedestal front and back:
http://i.imgur.com/l1dg3l.jpg
Frame top and bottoms for case and pedestal:
http://i.imgur.com/beMbRl.jpg
stren
03-13-2012, 11:26 PM
I have a video that I'm trying to put together of building the case. Here's a shot of assembling the pedestal pieces:
http://i.imgur.com/Bx8mBl.jpg
- Unfortunately no more photos of the pedestal, but essentially there's a front and back and a top and bottom, each of the four joins look like the pic above.
- They get screwed together with 7 screws along the top and one on each corner (side).
- Screw the top and bottom to the front, and then add the back on.
- Then start work on the main case. Start with the center and work outward. Here's the motherboard compartment - the two inner vertical sheets and the top and bottom sheets.
http://i.imgur.com/RIB0Ml.jpg
- Assemble the two vertical sheets to the top sheet (8 screws):
http://i.imgur.com/gg8qEl.jpg
- Then add the other bottom sheet (8 screws):
http://i.imgur.com/imVTHl.jpg
- Then put the case down on it's front and add the back (34 screws)
http://i.imgur.com/dNm7nl.jpg
- Then put the case back on it's side so you're ready to easily add the front panel:
http://i.imgur.com/R8lx2l.jpg
- Screw in the front panel to all the other pieces (36 screws) and put the case on top of the pedestal.
- Screw the case to the pedestal (4 screws) and it should look like this:
- Screw in any flex bay mounts and accessories
http://i.imgur.com/fxgWsl.jpg
- Add the motherboard trays to the motherboard back plates and attach the handles (6 screws total)
- Add the hinges for the doors
- Rearrange any back panels
- test your super mounts fit
- Clip on the exterior frame panels
- start building or clip on the frame
stren
03-13-2012, 11:26 PM
Here's mine without the exterior panels, don't worry the black plate covers will dissapear by the end of the build (18 bay waterfall reservoir to come)
http://i.imgur.com/B8xadl.jpg
stren
03-13-2012, 11:27 PM
So I got the opportunity to tour this new workshop close to downtown that just opened. It has all the workshop tools you could never afford to buy yourself, and you can buy day passes or month passes depending on how long you need. So this resolves all my issues with manufacturing the waterfall reservoirs myself, as well as opening up possibilities like custom waterblocks...
It was the launch weekend so there was a free bbq (there were plenty more people later on)
http://i.imgur.com/0vK2gl.jpg
Wood shop room, saw stop tablesaw, planer, chop saw etc. bunch of other stuff that isn't shown:
http://i.imgur.com/jZdqrl.jpg
Large CNC Mill for wood:
http://i.imgur.com/fpxZml.jpg
Sand Blaster:
http://i.imgur.com/uXT7gl.jpg
Vinyl cutter so you can print your own stickers:
http://i.imgur.com/uXSe8l.jpg
Forgot to take a photo of the 3D printer, but here's an 150W laser that cut through some hefty steel plate:
http://i.imgur.com/uJLy7l.jpg
There's two other lasers good enough for acrylic/wood, and a third one is apparently on the way:
http://i.imgur.com/tOMlel.jpg
Spray paint booth, they have an oven for powder coating, but not all the rest of the powder coating tools yet:
http://i.imgur.com/XDPB8l.jpg
Metal press and folding machiens:
http://i.imgur.com/ly2Eol.jpg
stren
03-13-2012, 11:28 PM
Other metal machines, bandsaw, grinders and a lathe:
http://i.imgur.com/QPmjEl.jpg
Metal lathe:
http://i.imgur.com/zVTf0l.jpg
Old school mills:
http://i.imgur.com/GHpdVl.jpg
CNC mill - can you say custom waterblocks!
http://i.imgur.com/5zIgDl.jpg
Electronics room - not much here, bunch of soldering irons, power supplies and scopes:
http://i.imgur.com/WMYtgl.jpg
So what do you all think I should do with this opportunity?
I definitely want to:
- make the custom metal backplates for GPUs
- make the waterfall reservoir
- make some custom waterblocks for parts that aren't ultra high performance e.g. raid card, memory blocks etc.
stren
03-14-2012, 11:55 PM
Alright here's an update. Can you say gentle typhoooooooooooooooooooons?
http://i.imgur.com/mqct6h.jpg
Don't worry they're not all for me. I only have 14 of those plus the 10 I already own.
My waterblocks also came in, thanks again to DT Waterblocks, here they are next to my spare rasa (both my raystorms are still in systems)
http://i.imgur.com/gZNWGh.jpg
You can see there's plenty of room for fittings. On the back you can see the copper base plate is pretty chunky - this should mean it should distribute heat better laterally through the plate but worse directly through it. Not sure the right trade off, but this copper block is the largest I've seen both in terms of area and thickness.
http://i.imgur.com/vOiR2h.jpg
Here's some results from Martin's testing: (http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/03/12/i7-3930k-dt-5noz-cpu-block-review/)
Temps in comparison to the raystorm:
http://martinsliquidlab.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dt5noz-th4.png
Restriction:
http://martinsliquidlab.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/dt5noz-pressuredrop2b.png?w=578&h=724
Performance is about as good as it gets, but there is some refinement in the mounting system needed. Considering this is their first block produced and it’s not only keeping up but lower in restriction than the other blocks says a lot! Overall, I see it as a block with a ton of work and emphasis put into the design and quality of the block itself. That 5Noz is something very special and it’s very refreshing to see a design done very differently from the norm that also performs extremely well.
It should be noted that the mounting mechanism now has thumb screws. Next update I'll show you a pic of it mounted.
Anyway the other big news on this update is the exterior panels. Here's some close up shots of the color, it's a dark metallic grey flake with a smooth finish to the touch:
http://i.imgur.com/XdYP3h.jpg
Even closer:
http://i.imgur.com/mN0cuh.jpg
And as much as I can loosely hang on the case without it being clipped on. You can see one motherboard has also been mounted. The TX10 makes EATX look like a MITX lol.
http://i.imgur.com/BrRpsh.jpg
Working with Smasher and Jim on this has been a delight and I highly recommend them :)
stren
03-21-2012, 11:28 PM
So while I was waiting for the screws, I decided to mount a reservoir to the motherboard tray. As the motherboard tray is HPTX there is a lot of spare space. Initially I wanted to also fit an RX360 on there, so that the motherboard/gpu/ram loop was self contained on the tray so that I could just pull it out and swap CPUs without disturbing that loop. Now I have another plan for the radiator instead. Here I am drilling the tray:
http://i.imgur.com/WWq62h.jpg
With the res mounted (it's a 250 EK multires if anyone cares and there's just enough room for a D5 underneath):
http://i.imgur.com/X8Jaxh.jpg
From the back with the reservoir mounted. You can see the two nuts holding it on:
http://i.imgur.com/YNepph.jpg
Now with the motherboard tray back stiffening and tiding plate added:
http://i.imgur.com/C0X12h.jpg
Here's another shot of the front also showing the new cpu block. BTW any barbs are just place holders.
http://i.imgur.com/vPwZkh.jpg
A quick test inside the case:
http://i.imgur.com/K8LhMh.jpg
I also did a test run with the gtx560 radiator and the fan adapters with my new shiny 2150 rpm gentle typhoons!
http://i.imgur.com/rMksih.jpg
That was it for the night, then the next morning I found an extra fitting and connected the res to the ram block. Almost a straight line lol.
http://i.imgur.com/DqGSKh.jpg
No one had photographed the new thumbscrews on the cpu block - so I took a couple of that also:
http://i.imgur.com/mlrQEh.jpg
Again ignore the barbs, I haven't quite decided how to route the tube out of there yet.
http://i.imgur.com/VnCeWh.jpg
stren
03-21-2012, 11:33 PM
Here's a pic of the iwaki next to a D5
http://i.imgur.com/jQQyth.jpg
Then I put the dvd drives in. These will eventually be hidden :)
http://i.imgur.com/Lh3AWh.jpg
Then I starting putting in the new ssds into the hdd side mount:
http://i.imgur.com/ej11Lh.jpg
I have another 3 ssds and 5 hard drives to put in later on, when I really transplant everything over:
http://i.imgur.com/3NfmOh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/57NxOh.jpg
And now a tease of the case with the panels:
http://i.imgur.com/heGD5h.jpg
More to come soon :)
stren
03-21-2012, 11:33 PM
double post
Area 66
03-22-2012, 12:59 AM
More to come ???? wait I have to digest all of this.... this case is sick, it's far better than a Montain Mod.... I have to check more and more..... more comments to come......
Giannis996
03-23-2012, 02:10 PM
i love this!! can you make me 1 also :P kidding :p
frisianbear2002
03-23-2012, 07:36 PM
Wow thats a massive and impressive rig you build there , but what fans are you gone use :p
stren
03-26-2012, 04:40 PM
More to come ???? wait I have to digest all of this.... this case is sick, it's far better than a Montain Mod.... I have to check more and more..... more comments to come......
:) Yeah the update might be a little slow this week as work is killing me, but big updates soon after that I promise!
stren
03-26-2012, 04:42 PM
i love this!! can you make me 1 also :P kidding :p
Sure, send me a check for 20K and I'll start ordering the parts :cool:
Wow thats a massive and impressive rig you build there , but what fans are you gone use :p
These ones :D
http://i.imgur.com/mqct6h.jpg
frisianbear2002
03-26-2012, 04:56 PM
Hahahaha yes i know it was just a joke because you orderd a so many of them 1 box of fans LOL:p
Cygnitr0n
03-26-2012, 05:19 PM
Amazing build! That's one big machine! Are you going to fly with these typhoon's?
Good question for "Mythbusters". How many GT do i need to fly? :P
stren
03-27-2012, 05:47 PM
Hahahaha yes i know it was just a joke because you orderd a so many of them 1 box of fans LOL:p
I thought so but wasn't sure you'd seen it lol, most people don't read the whole thread ;)
Amazing build! That's one big machine! Are you going to fly with these typhoon's?
Good question for "Mythbusters". How many GT do i need to fly? :P
lol
stren
03-27-2012, 05:48 PM
So the only thing I got done this week was changing the switch plate to one that matched the exterior color. Here's the original:
http://i.imgur.com/PhZt6h.jpg
The cover is held on with two nuts:
http://i.imgur.com/XGjMfh.jpg
Put the new one on:
http://i.imgur.com/B9cAmh.jpg
Reattach the switches:
http://i.imgur.com/Rt1bOh.jpg
Install it:
http://i.imgur.com/IBuaAh.jpg
And put the panels back one:
http://i.imgur.com/B91tEh.jpg
That's probably it for the next week at which point a large order of parts should be coming in :thumb:
Giannis996
03-28-2012, 07:05 PM
wow incredible ...after i make my personal pc im up to build a server pc..and you inspired me possitive!!
frisianbear2002
03-28-2012, 11:40 PM
Massive case you can combine 4 computers in there LOL:p
stren
03-31-2012, 10:12 PM
wow incredible ...after i make my personal pc im up to build a server pc..and you inspired me possitive!!
:)
Massive case you can combine 4 computers in there LOL:p
Yeah easily - I reckon it's about 6x the size of a midtower, maybe up to 20 mITX builds lol.
stren
04-03-2012, 10:04 PM
Alrighty the fedex guy came, so here's some unboxing action:
http://i.imgur.com/TS5anh.jpg
Woooh packing
http://i.imgur.com/hNe1uh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZScUbh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AjqNeh.jpg
Opened some boxes - the front rad is an ex560 - not quite sure why this was the first 560 rad that XSPC made.
http://i.imgur.com/jUyech.jpg
Mora 140.9 revealed - way thicker than the EX of course
http://i.imgur.com/ZdMi3h.jpg
Can you say quick disconnects?
http://i.imgur.com/NrNiHh.jpg
stren
04-04-2012, 04:48 AM
2nd update of the day:-
So I played around with my own version of the big slappy mod for the Iwaki - the idea is you tap the cylinder res for a much larger feed for the pump. The pump can't be on it's back so you need a nice slow 90 degree bend. The tough part is then getting down to the 5/8 OD pipe that is the inlet to the Iwaki. Here I used 1" pipe going to a 1/2" female converter fitted with a 5/8" brass barb. I butted the barb up right against the inlet and stretched some 0.5" tube over it:
http://i.imgur.com/XwlvOh.jpg
The feed may not be quite as good as the original big slappy as that only had a bout 3/4" of 5/8 inlet tube, vs this 2.5" on this version. However the downpipe is 1" instead of the 3/4" that was used. So hopefully the extra width balances it out a bit. Here's a photo of the original big slappy:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4270331234_ccd8bcfac4_o.jpg
and amuseme's version:
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i448/AllStop42/IMG_1608copy.jpg
We'll see I might change to what they did, I feel like it might have better performance.
Also started spray painting test colors on a dead GT. I made a quick spray booth:
http://i.imgur.com/P4B7Zh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SKTlWh.jpg
Done - there's some metallic flake in the paint, the color isn't quite as orange as the tube though:
http://i.imgur.com/punuJh.jpg
Reassembled (kinda)
http://i.imgur.com/goRMmh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ms7H2h.jpg
Then a final comparison with it mounted on the 120 rad (this rad is just for the motherboard block loop). The rad will be painted silver to match:
http://i.imgur.com/0y5Fnh.jpg
So what do you think? Are the colors close enough? Both are slightly off. I wonder if I can get a color match from the powder coat supplier. I think I'll look for a different red at the least tomorrow. The match does depend on the lighting though.
stren
04-05-2012, 04:27 AM
Got some more today seeing as I got done with my deadline yesterday. I wanted to get the 120 rad painted to match the fan to see how it looks and what fittings to go with. So I started sanding down the brand new gt stealth:
http://i.imgur.com/ec0teh.jpg
Masked it off and applied primer:
http://i.imgur.com/aIDLlh.jpg
Then painted a matching cover to dress up the fan a little:
http://i.imgur.com/bRMFyh.jpg
While I was waiting for paint to dry, I put together the quick disconnect pairs, some will mount to panels with a g1/4 fitting on the other side, while some screw directly into radiators:
http://i.imgur.com/KU2A5h.jpg
Then I realized I need two more pairs...
I also did some work on the pump mounting. I added a drain port to the inlet tube and mapped out the cuts I wanted to make to the base panel. Air has to flow through the base panel, so there has to be some cut outs. Because the pump will vibrate, I'm worried about making the noise worse with a floppy piece of metal, so I was thinking to stiffen it with two 1" by 1/4" steel bars screwed underneath the base plate (these are the two dark shaded strips. I'll have to add some rubber strips to try and isolate the baseplate from the frame also.
http://i.imgur.com/a6y3Xh.jpg
Here's a quick look at the painted rad from earlier with the fan on top:
http://i.imgur.com/1Lcwyh.jpg
And here's a piece of acrylic that was laser cut and then painted to match. The dimensions aren't quite right though:
http://i.imgur.com/yE8Uth.jpg
Not sure whether to do something like this or not. I don't think I should use the zerg symbol anyway as it doesn't match the theme, but it's fun to play around.
Originally I had wanted to paint all the fans, then I got lazy and thought, well I'm more likely to screw them up by painting them (imbalanced rotors and all), plus they won't be seen so who cares. So I took a look to see if I could justify lazy or not - here are the stock typhoons showing:
http://i.imgur.com/R5T0jh.jpg
Here's one painted typhoon just rested up in there. Obviously the space around the fan (fan adapter) would be painted silver too so it would blend better. The red can't be seen too well though:
http://i.imgur.com/4ZOFzh.jpg
So I figure I have four options:
A) leave the GTs stock (lazy and quieter but looks ugly)
B) paint the GTs housing only and leave the rotor grey (quiet but stands out less
C) paint the GT fully (risks noise from a now unbalanced rotor and doesn't look much better than option b)
D) paint the GT fully and add some white LEDs to actually show the metallic red rotor off a little bit
What do you all think?
stren
04-09-2012, 10:54 PM
The results are in:
A - 2
B - 7
C - 0
D - 6
Other suggesions:
- not paint and add leds - 2
- paint the housing and add leds -1
- paint hubs only and add leds -1
I liked some of the suggestions - I think what I'll do is actually not paint, and use red LED's to light the blades. I'm going to do a test run in the next couple of days. I'll also create a plate to attach the fans too that will cover some of the ugliness so only the blades will be seen. I can then create some back lit patterns. I need to check how much room is left in between the fans and the metal panel though.
Meanwhile I mounted the 140x9 radiator (without fans as I'm waiting on delivery), and checked the QDC's:
http://i.imgur.com/o5X61h.jpg
Unfortunately there is not enough room - only about 3/4" to make the 90 degree turn:
http://i.imgur.com/dDI6Jh.jpg
Luckily I had a non rotary 90 spare that could help out:
http://i.imgur.com/LquyLh.jpg
A rotary there would inevitably leak due to the weight of the QDC. I don't like the restriction of that tight 90 though so I may end up taking the QDC off of the radiator and putting it in line instead. I decided to leave it for a bit though and work on tapping the reservoir. The parts I need came in, so now it's time to build a makeshift tap handle lol.
http://i.imgur.com/W8AsLh.jpg
frisianbear2002
04-10-2012, 09:37 AM
Very nice setup :cool:
stren
04-12-2012, 05:51 PM
Very nice setup :cool:
Thanks Dude!
stren
04-12-2012, 05:54 PM
So I received some more primochill LRT tubing that is definitely a different color than the previous stuff I have. It's not aging or the supplier because the existing stuff I have is of different dates and different suppliers. I contacts ppc's and they said to email primochill (although I do wonder if they shipped me feser by mistake). Either way we'll see what primochill says.
http://i.imgur.com/ydlEwh.jpg
The difference looks 3-4x worse than the photo shows.
Also got some parts that were correctly manufactured (EK D5 top and lots of drain ports):
http://i.imgur.com/FDESTh.jpg
Bunch of fill ports:
http://i.imgur.com/fk9VSh.jpg
I also got done with the clearcoat on the radiator so I could finally take the masking tape off:
http://i.imgur.com/6dCJFh.jpg
Then I built a quick and dirty tap handle:
http://i.imgur.com/IIaxgh.jpg
We'll see how it works, I may have to buy one but thought I'd try this first.
I attached the D5 top to the res with a rotary male to male connector. There was about 3/8" gap between the mounting plate and the motherboard tray though, so I picked up a rubber table leg weight distributor that felt like it would be good for damping vibrations. It's just the right size to hide behind the mounting plate. I had to shave it down a bit though as it was more like 1/2":
http://i.imgur.com/bPTgGh.jpg
Here it is hiding:
http://i.imgur.com/TmNuFh.jpg
If it's visible from the window, I'll have to replace it, but I think it's good. Here it is with the plate bolted down lightly (the barb is temporary):
http://i.imgur.com/nnmVMh.jpg
Here it is mounted from the front:
http://i.imgur.com/ieEkTh.jpg
frisianbear2002
04-13-2012, 01:48 PM
Hmmmm santa claus is comming to town hahahaha :p getting better and better. :cool:
stren
04-18-2012, 03:05 PM
I made a review of the TX10. I hope it's helpful and that people like it. It's not exactly professional (iphone ftw) but I tried to do my best with what I had. To give you an idea of the scale of the case - I'm 6ft 5, so it's pretty big.
http://youtu.be/3a7kKKPs6J8
Let me know any feedback you have to improve it (or future videos). This case is a tough subject to review, simply because there are so many things to cover. I don't particularly like the ending, I'm thinking of adding on a real conclusion, but for all being one take I think it's decent :thumb:
Stren!
Menthol
04-20-2012, 03:21 AM
You need therapy, your sick. Very nice build, amazing really. Caselab make some amazing cases.
stren
04-21-2012, 01:18 AM
Thanks dude - yes they do!
First thanks to Primochill for stepping up and taking care of the tubing - a box has been shipped so hopefully that's the end of that. PPC's should have been the ones to take charge of the situation in my opinion, so I know where I won't be shopping in future. I was able to use some of the pink stuff for the fill ports as I ran out of good tube.
Anyway here's a video update as I'm short on time to edit the photos. The house is full of parts everywhere and I need to tidy up before my wife kills me. This is about halfway through what's been done. One thing I've found with this case is that it's so large, that every wire needs to be lengthened:
Skip to the end to see the case next to a mid atx tower:
http://youtu.be/PjUD_uLTS9U
stren
04-23-2012, 08:08 PM
So I finally tidied up the house. For some reason the wife was unhappy with every available surface being covered with stuff. This means I can start processing some photos.
So I started off by putting together the workstation upgrade. My gaming rig can be down, but I still have to work, so that's the first priority. The workstation consists of two loops:
1. i7-3930K - Mora3 140x9 - Dual PMP450S (D5 Strong)
2. EK R4E full cover block - 2 EK ram blocks - EK 8800GT block - D5 Vario - EK 250 cylinder res
As most of loop 2 was done, I started work on loop 1. So I started off mounting the fans to the mora3. Here it is with the CaseLabs "Super Mount". There are four dedicated mounting points independent of the fans which is nice:
http://i.imgur.com/BpHDuh.jpg
This means you can just mount the fans to the supermount and not the radiator:
http://i.imgur.com/uhfHLh.jpg
This is useful for cleaning because you can just undo the four mounting screws between the supermount and the rad. I.E. You don't have to remove every single fan for cleaning. FYI the fans are low speed 140mm yates (700rpm). I chose these because I wanted something cheap and quiet, and yates are both of those when at 700rpm.
Here's the super mount with fans mounted placed on top of the rad:
http://i.imgur.com/9ksQ3h.jpg
Then I attached the rad to the super mount:
http://i.imgur.com/WCHx8h.jpg
The only downside to this is a tiny gap between the fan and the rad. However it's small enough that I don't think it will cause a problem:
http://i.imgur.com/tzfwch.jpg
Here it is mounted in the top of the case:
http://i.imgur.com/LoWguh.jpg
I then attached the quick disconnects to the CPU block for loop 1. Originally they were going to attach to the case and then have compression fittings on the cpu block. However there wasn't enough room to make the 90 degree turn, so i think this works better:
http://i.imgur.com/R0yOCh.jpg
In the final setup I'll have some bitspower pass throughs that go to the top chamber. For now the tubing curves around to the drive bay area where the temporary reservoir and pumps are:
http://i.imgur.com/CnrRUh.jpg
Again you can see the pink vs red tube. Primochill have shipped me some replacement tube - so props to them for taking care of it.
stren
04-24-2012, 05:10 PM
So to build the workstation loop I also needed a rx360 rad from my gaming rig. So this meant that it was time to take the gaming rig apart. Here you can see it minus one fan that was clicking and had been removed. Yes you can cool 3 480's, a 920 and motherboard block with 5xAP15s but yes your water gets pretty warm lol.
http://i.imgur.com/V2Wtah.jpg
So once the radiators were removed, I could take some side by side pics with the new case:
http://i.imgur.com/Dq6Bqh.jpg
Yes the TX10 is huge!
http://i.imgur.com/abn1fh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lHMX5h.jpg
So enough posing, it's time to take the guts apart:
http://i.imgur.com/r6396h.jpg
You can see how the window was hiding some messy wiring. I hadn't bothered to tidy and sleeve much after putting in the Koolance res and STX because the TX10 was already on the way.
Lots of dust to be cleaned, here you can see the "saddlebag" setup of the external rads
http://i.imgur.com/d9RDih.jpg
About to take the fans and reservoir out:
http://i.imgur.com/ullW6h.jpg
Top fan and PSU removed:
http://i.imgur.com/2LWuih.jpg
Parts on the ground, parts on the ground looking like a fool with my parts on the ground!
http://i.imgur.com/jFaqyh.jpg
The STX is a sexy card:
http://i.imgur.com/PFk5Vh.jpg
stren
04-26-2012, 06:08 PM
Alright so more photos taking the old rig apart - we left off by removing the pci cards and the power supply:
http://i.imgur.com/KD1JYh.jpg
So now let's remove the cpu block and check the tim spread:
http://i.imgur.com/KYC1Ah.jpg
Not the best but not awful. Now time to take the motherboard out:
http://i.imgur.com/2C6F8h.jpg
Out it comes:
http://i.imgur.com/Z5G2Wh.jpg
Which leaves a sad empty and dusty case!
http://i.imgur.com/eLd0fh.jpg
Now it's time to take apart the rad setup:
http://i.imgur.com/DKsQ5h.jpg
Remove the steel bars:
http://i.imgur.com/ctYtGh.jpg
Then the fans:
http://i.imgur.com/nCT7uh.jpg
I noticed one side of the rads now had white stains on them, these were the sides on the top:
http://i.imgur.com/ZfTjGh.jpg
Compared side by side to the underside (bottom rad):
http://i.imgur.com/J3CxCh.jpg
Anyone know what that is?
Zka17
04-26-2012, 06:23 PM
My guess: it's just dust...
Nice work, btw!
stren
04-26-2012, 06:24 PM
My guess: it's just dust...
Nice work, btw!
Thanks - I'd already blown the dust off, it looks like chemical stains almost. I'll have to get a close up of it
Zka17
04-26-2012, 06:49 PM
Well, my first guess was wrong... :cool:
But here is my second guess: As I'm looking better on the pictures - specially on that with the green table with rads and fans (3rd from your last) - it seems to me that the blades of the fans touched the radiator fins. You have that white thing on the side where the fans were mounted and the fans has white blades... Check the intake side edge of the blades! Also, try: hold the frame of the fans with one hand, and try to move the blades along the axis - it may explain how the blades touched the radiator fins.
stren
04-27-2012, 06:45 PM
Well, my first guess was wrong... :cool:
But here is my second guess: As I'm looking better on the pictures - specially on that with the green table with rads and fans (3rd from your last) - it seems to me that the blades of the fans touched the radiator fins. You have that white thing on the side where the fans were mounted and the fans has white blades... Check the intake side edge of the blades! Also, try: hold the frame of the fans with one hand, and try to move the blades along the axis - it may explain how the blades touched the radiator fins.
Thanks - the RX360 has a pretty good gap between the fan and the fins though (8mm or so), so I don't think it's that :)
stren
04-27-2012, 06:46 PM
Well I haven't done any more on it yet. Still working through the photos from the last two weeks. So here's another update...
So we left off with the antec 300 emptied out, here's another shot of it next to the TX10 now that it's empty:
http://i.imgur.com/IS38ph.jpg
I was also now left with a big stack of fans. This is without the 15 fans that have already been used in the TX10:
http://i.imgur.com/50lkqh.jpg
Now I could start rebuilding the gaming rig into the TX10:
http://i.imgur.com/2aLGDh.jpg
Adding the 120 rad for the motherboard loop:
http://i.imgur.com/N20r0h.jpg
Testing that it still fits in the case:
http://i.imgur.com/ZXCnyh.jpg
Soon it must be time to start tidying up before I get slapped!
http://i.imgur.com/RnfOJh.jpg
However first I need to get my work computer up. The free 360 is being used for the workstation motherboard/ram/gpu loop and will sit approximately here:
http://i.imgur.com/BHicJh.jpg
So now to take apart the loop that was leak testing in order to add the rad:
http://i.imgur.com/xCUhih.jpg
I changed out the 45 degree bitspower compression on the GPU as it felt like it had a slight leak in in that position, so it has a temporary barb, I also removed the pump sticker. It's much cleaner now, and who needs an overpriced dress kit ;)
http://i.imgur.com/vboMEh.jpg
That's all for now!
stren
04-28-2012, 05:12 PM
Alright I have a question about sleeving, I'm getting grey, titanium grey, black and red from mdpc and wondering the best pattern to do, what do you think?
http://i.imgur.com/YtgUp.jpg
stren
04-29-2012, 05:08 PM
No preference ROG?
Here's a quick update - time to start drilling!
http://i.imgur.com/7hRDXh.jpg
Adding some fill ports:
http://i.imgur.com/68dJ5h.jpg
2 done:
http://i.imgur.com/gdvelh.jpg
All done:
http://i.imgur.com/GzOH6h.jpg
Not as messy now:
http://i.imgur.com/D27JTh.jpg
Time to get the workstation up and running so I can get back to work (once I've cleaned up of course). I'll be using the Koolance dual bay dual D5 reservoir for now. It's a real pain to use because it doesn't bleed well, however if you add on some tube from the fill ports on the res up to the fill ports on the case you can keep the water level above the reservoir and it really helps.
http://i.imgur.com/ruLwdh.jpg
Now we've freed up a 360 rad for the workstation gpu/motherboard/ram loop, we can put the loop together:
http://i.imgur.com/ANcC5h.jpg
I'm using AP15's temporarily until I'm done painting the low speed yates. Also that one barb is temporary too:
http://i.imgur.com/YpzPZh.jpg
The wiring is temporary too. So for loop testing, I disconnected the QDC's pulled the motherboard tray out of the case and the 360 out seperately, then I reconnected and filled the loop and left it to bleed/leak test on the counter for a few hours.
http://i.imgur.com/sE2ehh.jpg
stren
05-01-2012, 04:18 AM
Alright time for another update. Here's the loop testing for the workstation. Bear in mind this is not the final loop - it will be tidier with nicer fittings, for now I need to get my workstation up and running, I can pretty it up later.
http://i.imgur.com/sHpxvh.jpg
Some of the tube is the pink tube that I had mentioned before, that will be replaced. Bleeding of the annoying koolance reservoir was made easier by the dedicated fill ports and by the QDC's. The D5's struggle to push that much air out of the system, so it was much easier to bleed the cpu section and the radiator seperately and then connect them up as a whole:
http://i.imgur.com/53ezph.jpg
Now that it had passed leak testing it was time to take it to the office:
http://i.imgur.com/zag1Xh.jpg
It was now heavy (and bulky) and I didn't trust the BP crystal links not to loosen up if I didn't take it down the step smoothly, so I found a piece of plywood in the shed to help:
http://i.imgur.com/g9zE0h.jpg
First boot! Yay! It wasn't just the kitchen that was covered in parts, so was the office, it's a real mess as I still had my old workstation running while I tweaked the clocks on this one.
http://i.imgur.com/XMrAO.jpg
I temporarily put the power supply in the top chamber while I did the overclocking tweaking:
http://i.imgur.com/lOixxh.jpg
Did a quick bench to see the limit of the chip, I couldn't get past 5.22GHz on water. I tried up to 1.66V, but nothing past 1.56 really helped. 5.22 means it's a pretty average 3930K, certainly no golden chip :( I tried to settle for a 24/7 clock of 4.95, but I didn't like the volts, so settled down for 4.9 instead, I'll see if I can tweak the memory faster than 2133 CL9 later, here's a SS of the 5.22:
http://i.imgur.com/8NpqS.jpg
Next I installed the power supplies properly, here you can see the optional PSU support bracket for long power supplies. It's probably not necessary, but why not? It comes with some rubber tape to damp any vibrations:
http://i.imgur.com/Xh7sih.jpg
Here's the first PSU installed:
http://i.imgur.com/Wp2SVh.jpg
Menthol
05-02-2012, 10:20 AM
I bet the wife is glad it's out of the kitchen, she must be a special lady to live with that.
Xtreme-Performance
05-02-2012, 10:39 AM
Why is it Project Thief? You aint stealing parts from other PC? lol like civic... (sorry for the quirky charistma... btw..)
stren
05-02-2012, 10:30 PM
I bet the wife is glad it's out of the kitchen, she must be a special lady to live with that.
No kidding - but I just made another mess in there today!
Why is it Project Thief? You aint stealing parts from other PC? lol like civic... (sorry for the quirky charistma... btw..)
Lol thief because it steals from my wallet, and savings and anything where there was money
stren
05-02-2012, 10:34 PM
Took a break to put together an ivy rig for a co-worker:
A board!
http://i.imgur.com/ZfwJEh.jpg
blah blah blah marketing - where's the window that the extreme boards have?
http://i.imgur.com/FEXZsh.jpg
Now there's a board
http://i.imgur.com/oSGTnh.jpg
I liked the door hanger - unfortunately this is for an overclocked workstation so not too useful here:
http://i.imgur.com/73g0jh.jpg
A large box for some memory (32giggles):
http://i.imgur.com/sAS12h.jpg
Matching:
http://i.imgur.com/5E9pQh.jpg
Oh and a cpu:
http://i.imgur.com/wxHafh.jpg
Best put that in the socket then:
http://i.imgur.com/qga2Nh.jpg
We should remove that plastic cover too:
http://i.imgur.com/n6sjah.jpg
stren
05-02-2012, 10:35 PM
Putting in that H100:
http://i.imgur.com/A09cbh.jpg
Yeah I know no custom water loop, but this is going to someone who can't be trusted with such things ;)
miniThief is getting there:
http://i.imgur.com/PSq1lh.jpg
miniThief- now with 100% more PSU:
http://i.imgur.com/EK7o9h.jpg
Don't forget a GPU (9800GT ftw!)
http://i.imgur.com/OW1jhh.jpg
Close up:
http://i.imgur.com/9TVbIh.jpg
ISO:
http://i.imgur.com/GjTZWh.jpg
stren
05-05-2012, 01:35 AM
So back to the *real* project. Now that my workstation was up and running, I could take the old one down:
http://i.imgur.com/CAWtEh.jpg
OMG dust! This is three months worth:
http://i.imgur.com/h7hT3h.jpg
Still yucky:
http://i.imgur.com/CnUwQh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FM6Lvh.jpg
Got out the duster and started taking it apart:
http://i.imgur.com/GLMpqh.jpg
Nearly done
http://i.imgur.com/S5nUjh.jpg
Now I've gone and made the kitchen messy again:
http://i.imgur.com/Xfe37h.jpg
Lilkka
05-05-2012, 03:26 AM
i cannot wait to see the finished build, I don't see how you can have such a large PC case and such.. i get tired of even seening one on my desk let alone looking at something that could walk with you next to your full body length hah..
Keep up the good work!
ganji
05-05-2012, 08:43 AM
that case is MaHOOOOOOOSIVE. tis gonna be a killer rig tho :D nice work
stren
05-05-2012, 06:16 PM
that case is MaHOOOOOOOSIVE. tis gonna be a killer rig tho :D nice work
Thanks :D:D
stren
05-05-2012, 06:18 PM
So as it's the weekend you get bonus updates :)
This is how I initially wanted the PSU's to give maximum air intake:
http://i.imgur.com/Swvxoh.jpg
However the left PSU once it had cables would conflict with the 360 rad mounted in front of it, so I decided to move it:
http://i.imgur.com/0CHWfh.jpg
Done, you can see there's still a good amount of space in between:
http://i.imgur.com/dkEw6h.jpg
Now to mount them - they're going in the second to bottom compartment:
http://i.imgur.com/f6Q65h.jpg
and mounted:
http://i.imgur.com/cnGNhh.jpg
Now time to mount all the hard drives - here are the gaming rig drives:
http://i.imgur.com/rCuHlh.jpg
Now let's add in the workstation drives:
http://i.imgur.com/1wpUbh.jpg
old skool x25e:
http://i.imgur.com/AJ1z2h.jpg
All done:
http://i.imgur.com/p8ZOwh.jpg
stren
05-05-2012, 06:19 PM
Now to cable it - I hate how asus only give you sata cables with right angles at one end and straights at the other. For this build I really need straight to straights, so I had to order some more from the egg, this is the temporary rats nest:
http://i.imgur.com/YNoEbh.jpg
Yikes!
stren
05-08-2012, 02:13 AM
Alright a quick update as I got some more time to process photos (on a side note the first mdpc package came woot!)
I got the workstation back up and running:
http://i.imgur.com/zZYwih.jpg
But I had to use the gaming side for location of the power supply as the cables were not long enough to reach the real location. As you can see it makes a good storage room also:
http://i.imgur.com/Ta8tSh.jpg
Workstation in action - no 2nd 8800gt yet because I'm only driving two screens, the card is being used as a test card for now for some other rigs I'm building.
http://i.imgur.com/lvHJyh.jpg
Again a lot of fittings are temporary. So now back to the gaming rig. I transferred the sweet trident ram from my worksation to the gaming rig (I think it maybe hypers), it can do 2130 CL 8 and probably more but that's the limit of my 990x IMC. Should have tried two sticks in the 3770K rig I slapped together to see what it could really do! The ugly p6t board that was being used for the workstation is now going into a generic network maintenance use and will be put in a rack.
http://i.imgur.com/ulxT5h.jpg
A shot of that sexy ram:
http://i.imgur.com/XeB8Bh.jpg
And the motherboard tray:
http://i.imgur.com/M2FlNh.jpg
Here you can see I had soldered on an extra molex connector to the board (just to the bottom of the STX). My old case didn't have room to connect a power cable to the real connector, so this helped me give the gpus enough power.
http://i.imgur.com/BA9VTh.jpg
And now time to swap the 920 for that sweet 990x:
http://i.imgur.com/aar5Nh.jpg
stren
05-09-2012, 03:13 PM
Alright time to swap those cpus - out with the 920:
http://i.imgur.com/VzW2eh.jpg
And in with the 990x:
http://i.imgur.com/IusH3h.jpg
Close it up:
http://i.imgur.com/XIqgKh.jpg
Mount the CPU block and add the g3/8 adapters - luckily the 5Noz has a very wide port spacing:
http://i.imgur.com/jEYbbh.jpg
Which means you can mount the high flow VL4N quick disconnects - unfortunately they are g 3/8 and don't come with right angle options, so I have to have adapters both ends and then a g1/4 female to female before I can add in the 90 degree rotary fitting:
http://i.imgur.com/ntHsOh.jpg
Here we are with the old GPUs mounted too:
http://i.imgur.com/32S5Dh.jpg
And here's how it will look as this will be the reverse ATX side:
http://i.imgur.com/GswCxh.jpg
Now it's time to repurpose that clown board:
http://i.imgur.com/CrIyeh.jpg
And done til the case comes:
http://i.imgur.com/PNA0Gh.jpg
stren
05-09-2012, 11:11 PM
Second update of the day - sleeving came in:
http://i.imgur.com/m1IyZh.jpg
Always interesting to see stamps from a foreign land ;) And of course the obligatory nils drawing
http://i.imgur.com/VCvPJh.jpg
The results from the last survery were clear:
http://i.imgur.com/67dBxh.jpg
So now I made them with real sleeve (24 pin left and 8 + 6 pin right) (only one row of course) (photographed outside under cloud, the background is the pedestal back plate which is powdercoated the same color as all internal parts):
http://i.imgur.com/J1GNyh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IKTFhh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VEyf0h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0c2h2h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8Fum1h.jpg
stren
05-09-2012, 11:12 PM
http://i.imgur.com/AnOqyh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YvDsBh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZrIvsh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bXPxCh.jpg
I'm leaning towards D or F. However there's one last complication there is red or the "x" color that is basically a deep red-brown kind of color. As far as I can tell, the x looks better when next to white, the red otherwise:
http://i.imgur.com/khTish.jpg
Let me know what you think!
Menthol
05-10-2012, 11:38 AM
I have been enjoying watching your build, one one hand I really want to see it finished, one the other I will miss watching this thread.
I think the color scheme is a personal touch and am sure which ever you decide on will be awesome. I could sure use some instructions on how to cut cables to length and sleeve myself, that is defiantly a week point in my build, at least with the Case Labs TH10 i have bundles of cables on the backside with the power supply, just don't open that door and it looks ok. Oh and used to love those giant flower heat sinks
stren
05-11-2012, 06:29 PM
Thanks to everyone - results are in:
http://i.imgur.com/piJ35.jpg
So now we can eliminate the less popular and simulate these with the motherboard tray - yes it's a walk off! Jeppzer's suggestion is now also included:
http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=1527126&t=o
Option C
http://i.imgur.com/NfxVXh.jpg
Option D
http://i.imgur.com/9MMYfh.jpg
Option G
http://i.imgur.com/bnu5sh.jpg
Option Jeppzer
http://i.imgur.com/lKg6mh.jpg
Let me know what you think - and please keep it to these four only!
stren
05-16-2012, 12:04 AM
Alright - another diversion to clean up the odds and ends - well I got some packages to help with that:
http://i.imgur.com/wpvZbh.jpg
Inside a box..... is another box:
http://i.imgur.com/KtwTTh.jpg
And inside - the opposite of a CaseLabs case - cheap design, cheap steel, cheap manufacturing:
http://i.imgur.com/lV8EKh.jpg
Despite knowing how badly the edges were finished I still managed to cut myself!
http://i.imgur.com/C5jVzh.jpg
Mounting the old workstation board:
http://i.imgur.com/Yuslqh.jpg
Now let's see what's come in from the egg:
http://i.imgur.com/2iiy5h.jpg
The PSU for that mATX build I did (those photos were slightly out of order), another ssd (because 7 isn't enough) and a cheapo gpu for the 4u case:
http://i.imgur.com/YMQsDh.jpg
Passive GPU is passive, crappy sas card is crappy:
http://i.imgur.com/6XoAPh.jpg
Got those straight to straight sata cables too:
http://i.imgur.com/P3rt8h.jpg
BTW if you haven't voted on sleeve design - please do!
stren
05-19-2012, 01:34 AM
So Primochill came through on delivering me the replacement tube. They also sent some extras in order to sponsor the build and I guess future builds because there are multiple colors:
http://i.imgur.com/KoJynh.jpg
two dual gigabit cards came in for the network upgrades:
http://i.imgur.com/bXbcmh.jpg
Fitted one to this box:
http://i.imgur.com/CYyvJ.jpg
Then mounted that box in our rack in the office:
http://i.imgur.com/dQS3wh.jpg
Thought you might like to see our main server - it's a supermicro barebones 4u box that's capable of fitting two gulftown xeons, however we only have one hex cpu fitted right now:
http://i.imgur.com/bj0y5h.jpg
You can see they built a plastic shroud around the ram and cpu to force the air through the heatsinks. Anyway back to the real project. Sanded down another radiator:
http://i.imgur.com/Z9etuh.jpg
Masked it up:
http://i.imgur.com/FiKSlh.jpg
Ready to go:
http://i.imgur.com/Wxx8Dh.jpg
Primed:
http://i.imgur.com/6gxM0h.jpg
sate200
05-22-2012, 07:11 PM
top rig!!! beautiful project
stren
05-23-2012, 09:11 PM
top rig!!! beautiful project
Thanks :):)
stren
05-23-2012, 09:12 PM
While I've been busy working on this, my sponsors have been busy with new products. Detroit Thermo has come out with a new block called the "sniper", it's a tiny bit more restrictive but is supposed to have better temps:
http://www.dtwaterblocks.com/product_images/m/916/IMG_1851__97689_zoom.JPG
I'm hoping to do an apples to apples comparison with the rasa/raystorm/ek hf supreme/5Noz/Sniper :)
Also Monsoon Free came out with some sexy new rotary fittings:
http://geno.boxgods.com/this_is_my_boomstick.jpg
Including a special version with optional end plugs:
Yes the other version has Light Ports that let you install several different types of plugs. An LED plug that has super bright 15 degree LED's that make your tube glow sort of like a fiber optic cable or neon tube. A temp probe plug. A shorty version of the silver bullets, and of course our standard Monsoon plug. The plugs are available in all 10 Monsoon colors. The Light Port Rotaries will sell for a buck or two more depending on where resellers price them.
Actually the LED plugs don't come in the two color form shown below, but you get the idea.
http://geno.boxgods.com/monsoon_light_port.JPG
Excited to use these, but it gives me more decisions to make as to which color to use lol.
Quick update on my project:
While I was procrastinating sleeving/custom wire harnesses for the power supply I figured I'd work on getting the radiators up and running for the gaming rig - I mounted the AP16s to the 140mm adapters:
http://i.imgur.com/RQZnLh.jpg
Then got ready to resolder and sleve:
http://i.imgur.com/GC5Xph.jpg
First time sleeving so did a pretty uneven job:
http://i.imgur.com/Txzmgh.jpg
Decided to move that to the back side of the radiator and now that I had my system down, did a much better job on the front side:
http://i.imgur.com/lNrDTh.jpg
Both sides done, but still awaitng fan headers:
http://i.imgur.com/j3x8uh.jpg
Mounted back in the case:
http://i.imgur.com/FkeXVh.jpg
stren
05-23-2012, 09:13 PM
double post
stren
05-30-2012, 03:47 AM
Been slow on the updates because work has been kicking my behind. Anyway the 580 3gb cards came in. I know some of you may say why not get 680's (or even 670's), well these were a lot cheaper (awesome 2nd hand deal) and will perform plenty well enough to max out 2560x1600 @ 60Hz. With my 480's I never had a problem running out of processing power, but I did run out of vram, so I think these will be plenty until I upgrade the monitors ;) Once I upgrade then I'm sure I can justify a few GK110s ;)
http://i.imgur.com/TnubOh.jpg
As you can see two of the backplates are 480 ones:
http://i.imgur.com/uyMF1h.jpg
So I had to switch the cards around so that the 580 one was at the bottom of the stack. I had to take them apart anyway to check for nickel problems and gunk. I'd be more concerned if I wasn't suspecting that I'll change GPUs again before the build is finished. Here they are rearranged and plugged in:
http://i.imgur.com/W39TNh.jpg
The 120 radiator is for the motherboard only loop:
http://i.imgur.com/qwrqNh.jpg
I'm still working out how to route the tubing for optimal performance without making it look like a mess - should I come out the side or go out the top?
http://i.imgur.com/DvvKhh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0qGtVh.jpg
Although the board has two loops on it, it will really look like it has three as there will be a 560 rad in between the cpu and gpu:
http://i.imgur.com/DFfXOh.jpg
Motherboard loop routed with temporary fittings - I thought this would look better. I don't really like the way it looks - too busy and crowded, I need to work out a way to keep the tube out the way more. Maybe a memory block would help:
http://i.imgur.com/cO5ARh.jpg
Menthol
06-16-2012, 06:58 PM
Where did you go, got any update on your progress?
stren
06-16-2012, 10:55 PM
Where did you go, got any update on your progress?
Yes sorry, I'd been super busy with work and then went on vacation, but I'll be making an update in one min (quite literally cause I've already written it ;))
stren
06-16-2012, 11:01 PM
Ok so a quick recap -not much had been done the last few weeks as I was busy with work and then went on a brief vacation. Now I'm back the build will continue, however I'll also be doing various things in between including a review of Rich Chomiczewski (http://richchomiczewski.wordpress.com/) aka Spotswood's new tech station. I'll also be doing a CPU waterblock round up which will include:
DT Sniper
DT 5Noz
EK Supremacy
EK Supreme HF
XSPC Raystorm
XSPC Rasa
MIPS Iceforce HF
Thanks to DT, EK and Indigo Xtreme for sponsoring the blocks and TIM, thanks to Rich for sponsoring the tech station which will be used as the test bench :thumb::thumb:
So without further ado, let's get back to some pictures :D
The tech station arrived from Rich in a fairly small box:
http://i.imgur.com/b3Aoqh.jpg
However there was still plenty of room for packing:
http://i.imgur.com/JPwPah.jpg
The case comes "mostly" assembled, here's the motherboard tray:
http://i.imgur.com/JZodXh.jpg
that mounts above the base which includes mounts for DVD drives, HDs and SSDs:
http://i.imgur.com/OS2fQh.jpg
Here's the rest of the frame:
http://i.imgur.com/mQT2Oh.jpg
And all the screws and accessories, interestingly Rich includes an allen driver, as well as an allen key, and a torx key also
http://i.imgur.com/DoLzPh.jpg
The frame makes use of extruded aluminum with a pattern that makes it easy to use screws and bolts/nuts to easily customize the setup. Here's one vertical strut getting slid onto the base:
http://i.imgur.com/7BFhSh.jpg
There is then a hole allowing that screw to be tightened. Before you know it all 4 are up:
http://i.imgur.com/MEl5Dh.jpg
stren
06-16-2012, 11:02 PM
You can then add some feet:
http://i.imgur.com/xbVvjh.jpg
Then attach the PCI card support to the motherboard tray and then attach both to the frame:
http://i.imgur.com/rRgV7h.jpg
Then the PSU can be attached with two small plates:
http://i.imgur.com/O3HO1h.jpg
Although this is solid enough for benching (and the PSU does not move), a 4 screw mount would be more solid if you were moving the case as there is potential for the PSU to bend those small plates. The hard drives, dvd and SSDs use small rubber grommets that get screwed into the base of each device:
http://i.imgur.com/2M1iDh.jpg
You can then slide these on the same extruded frames which have pre drilled access holes to make it easy to swap them in and out:
http://i.imgur.com/xClRTh.jpg
More to come tomorrow!
Zygomorphic
06-17-2012, 12:47 AM
@Stren, your build is awesome! I have been following it for months now, and it makes me want to build a computer myself too. Mostly I hang around the laptop forums, since that is what I run, but your system is amazing. How on earth do you get the wife to agree to that monster in the house??? How much heat does it generate? In any event, keep those posts--and pictures--coming! I look forward to much more!
stren
06-17-2012, 11:19 PM
@Stren, your build is awesome! I have been following it for months now, and it makes me want to build a computer myself too. Mostly I hang around the laptop forums, since that is what I run, but your system is amazing. How on earth do you get the wife to agree to that monster in the house??? How much heat does it generate? In any event, keep those posts--and pictures--coming! I look forward to much more!
Thanks dude - Yes I'm a laptop-phobe and my wife has got used to that, and now sees how much faster her computer is compared to her laptop, so now she understands my madness a bit more haha. Honestly if the case wasn't sponsored though I don't think I could have got it past her haha. She's very understanding though so that helps :) Here's another update:
I also had ordered a crystalfontz setup so that I could monitor temps accurately, although the aquaero is more of a system, it doesn't support the dallas temp probes that can be calibrated to <0.1C accuracy. This setup should let me do that. The package arrived while I was away:
http://i.imgur.com/hKh9ph.jpg
More packaging:
http://i.imgur.com/zb74Dh.jpg
Taking it out of the bag - it's the 635 module with the 4 line LCD:
http://i.imgur.com/WDy4yh.jpg
They'd pre fitted the SCAB module which enables the temp sensors to be hooked up:
http://i.imgur.com/wQzIIh.jpg
Not quite sure what was with the stray spray paint:
http://i.imgur.com/f7njNh.jpg
Decided to mount it on the top of the test bench:
http://i.imgur.com/OcmfOh.jpg
However the right side couldn't be screwed down so I added some support so I could at least push the buttons if needed:
http://i.imgur.com/kdVGgh.jpg
The test bench came with extra extrusion pieces so you can add on extra devices, I decided to use my RD30 pump for the cpu block test:
http://i.imgur.com/BTihSh.jpg
stren
06-17-2012, 11:20 PM
I'd also ordered a King Instruments flow meter (similar to the one Martin uses):
http://i.imgur.com/BbSJSh.jpg
It's more accurate and less restrictive than the impeller types. However it's large - here it is zip tied to the case next to the 400mm EK res:
http://i.imgur.com/uKpHvh.jpg
And now the final setup waiting for the 2nd R4E/3930K to arrive:
http://i.imgur.com/KIhXwh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KPg5Ih.jpg
R.O.G1
06-18-2012, 08:17 PM
so nice huge project and hugeeeeeee moneyyyyyyyy :rolleyes:
Zygomorphic
06-19-2012, 11:52 PM
Shhhh! Don't the government, @stren is stimulating the economy. hehehehe ;) Now if only I could sell him those products--I could retire.
stren
06-25-2012, 02:34 AM
Time for a belated update:
I used the nice quick release thumb screws to remove the EX 560 radiator from the TX10. I used two extra pieces from the tech station to build a support beam for it:
http://i.imgur.com/20xZih.jpg
Then used some of the accessories to grip it either side so it was stable, but yet also quick to remove:
http://i.imgur.com/LHtdyh.jpg
Then the 2nd R4E board came in:
http://i.imgur.com/Y7lwxh.jpg
And a 2nd cpu:
http://i.imgur.com/KDOHdh.jpg
stren
06-25-2012, 02:34 AM
Installed the motherboard - I learned I should loosen the standoffs from the tray a little as they holes have enough movement that the standoffs may be mispositioned. After screwing everything in I want back and tightened it. Then added the cpu:
http://i.imgur.com/Liy8Lh.jpg
Then some ram:
http://i.imgur.com/5dNfFh.jpg
Then removed the ram in order to fit the DT 5Noz using the Sniper thumbnuts:
http://i.imgur.com/JhV8sh.jpg
Then put the ram back in:
http://i.imgur.com/RcQAdh.jpg
Added a gpu (9800 gt is enough for the cpu test) and that's it for now!
stren
06-28-2012, 01:38 AM
Photo update:
http://i.imgur.com/LBIooh.jpg
Box was huge, almost as wide as a 560 rad! The dac/amp is large too, much bigger than it seemed from photos:
http://i.imgur.com/mrfxXh.jpg
Deep too:
http://i.imgur.com/F9BRFh.jpg
Time to get the test bench up and running:
http://i.imgur.com/6c8y3h.jpg
The flow meter needed some barbs, I got these 1/2" brass barbs from home depot:
http://i.imgur.com/JZc8lh.jpg
I forgot that with no o-ring, you need teflon tape, that would bite me later. Clamped it down:
http://i.imgur.com/3qv0Jh.jpg
Matching one for the bottom input port:
http://i.imgur.com/EZS8ch.jpg
Hooked up the Iwaki RD30 pump fed directly from the 400mm reservoir:
http://i.imgur.com/vBxpfh.jpg
I had the return come in the bottom and used the longest internal tube to direct the flow to the top of the res in order to help bleeding. Then connected the CPU:
stren
06-28-2012, 01:39 AM
http://i.imgur.com/R5pkYh.jpg
Hooked up the rad, and ran out of clear tube, had to use some of the leftover pink:
http://i.imgur.com/0svEZh.jpg
Time to fill it up:
http://i.imgur.com/jrsgbh.jpg
2.55GPM while bleeding with the Iwaki at 19V, at 29V it was pushing a smidge over 3.5GPM:
http://i.imgur.com/JRwBbh.jpg
Ready to start overclocking:
http://i.imgur.com/6fRp2h.jpg
dave123
06-28-2012, 06:38 AM
Impressive build my friend but I have question's.
What's this for? I mean its purposes are there three of you in the house one games and the other two work, like for a server room.
Or are you building it just because you can.
Either way kudos.
stren
06-28-2012, 06:02 PM
Haha no it's all for me. There are some side projects going on in here that aren't necessarily in the final rig. The final rig will consist of the following in the huge TX10 case:
workstation: 3930K, R4E, 32gb ram, 8800gt, super quiet (700rpm fans max)
gaming rig: 3930K, R4E, 16gb ram, 3 x gtx 580 3gb (unquiet 2150rpm fans max)
+ possibly a mitx windows home file server/web browser/media player that will be fully passive cooling
I work from home and the workstation runs linux, it sometimes has to run long simulations so I then need a second rig for gaming while I wait for the first one to get it's thinking done.
Zygomorphic
06-30-2012, 01:26 AM
Haha no it's all for me. There are some side projects going on in here that aren't necessarily in the final rig. The final rig will consist of the following in the huge TX10 case:
workstation: 3930K, R4E, 32gb ram, 8800gt, super quiet (700rpm fans max)
gaming rig: 3930K, R4E, 16gb ram, 3 x gtx 580 3gb (unquiet 2150rpm fans max)
+ possibly a mitx windows home file server/web browser/media player that will be fully passive cooling
I work from home and the workstation runs linux, it sometimes has to run long simulations so I then need a second rig for gaming while I wait for the first one to get it's thinking done.
Dude! What is your secret?! :) You get paid to game while your workstation thinks! That is what I call an awesome job. Got any openings? :p You'll be able to game while the one thinks, but you won't be able think while the other games--those fans will be loud. Still, what is the wife going to use. Some low-end 990X system for Facebook? :) Then again, if the wife allows you to build comps in the kitchen, she might be a formidable gamer in her own right...:cool:
stren
07-03-2012, 08:47 PM
Dude! What is your secret?! :) You get paid to game while your workstation thinks! That is what I call an awesome job. Got any openings? :p You'll be able to game while the one thinks, but you won't be able think while the other games--those fans will be loud. Still, what is the wife going to use. Some low-end 990X system for Facebook? :) Then again, if the wife allows you to build comps in the kitchen, she might be a formidable gamer in her own right...:cool:
Haha well I work from home and sometimes there's nothing I can while it thinks, so I may as well have fun. Haha well the wife currently has an e8500/gtx460 for her web/gaming needs, but yes she may get a 990x hand me down haha.
Alright - while I haven't made progress on the project, I have made progress on the CPU water block review. Here's how I did the temperature sensors (some of these photos are repeats but are included for completeness as a how-to guide):
For this I was following Rubidium's excellent guide (http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=169) with some modifications. His guide is a must read if you're planning to copy this.
Dallas one wire temperature sensors are much more accurate than the standard 2 wire thermistor type sensors that are used in current water temperature probes. However they need to be water proofed and mounted in the loop which means some work on my part.
So here's what I ordered - the temperature sensors and the crystalfontz USB interface- there are many options here, the one I chose was not the cheapest but gives a good amount of screen space:
http://i.imgur.com/NPHHyh.jpg
The package came in:
http://i.imgur.com/hZ5jzh.jpg
In addition to the main screen display, you'll need a SCAB module that enables the sensor monitoring, plus a USB cable, plus the temperature sensors too.
http://i.imgur.com/Rwvjhh.jpg
Here's the break down of how to plug it in
http://i.imgur.com/kH9Olh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tUcPzh.jpg
stren
07-03-2012, 08:48 PM
We also needed some other parts to build the temperature sensors into, the bitspower rotary q fitting is very flexible but has more ports than you'll probably need so you'll need to order some stop fittings or a different t adapter:
http://i.imgur.com/9NRU9h.jpg
Here's what I ordered from mcmaster-carr at the top and at the bottom is a sample order for enough parts for one temp sensor from sidewinder (I had some parts already so only ordered what I needed). If you clean the stainless steel syringe well you may be able to reuse it, I ordered two just in case. The parts arrived:
http://i.imgur.com/3TVrph.jpg
I ordered the brass metal brush, I probably should have ordered something else though - maybe a steel one? Eitherway it seems to have worked for me. Brass barbs make life easier because otherwise you have to remove the nickel plating from the fitting.
http://i.imgur.com/AJbpHh.jpg
First off rough up the surface of the temperature sensor, I used 220 grit regular sand paper:
http://i.imgur.com/0snyrh.jpg
Then rough up the interior surface of the barb using the metal brush (fit it in a drill and spend a few minutes doing the old in and out). I also sanded the end of the barb and it's chamfer with 220 grit. I then cut some small neoprene washers to fit around the temp sensors and hold it centered in the barb:
http://i.imgur.com/LVc4fh.jpg
I bought the smallest I could find from home depot. If you can find something that's a perfect fit (any rubber grommet or washer that fits would be fine) then it would be better. You want to make the fit as perfect as possible otherwise the glue will leak past and it could ruin all your efforts. Fit a 2nd washer to keep the wire centered at the back of the barb. Now we're going to mix up the glue. Get your glue mats together:
http://i.imgur.com/iy4clh.jpg
I found about a quarter of the 1.7oz size would fill 2-3 3cc syringes. One 3cc syringe's worth is probably enough for 2 fittings. I mixed it in a disposable plastic shot glass that I had laying around.
http://i.imgur.com/MU5oRh.jpg
stren
07-03-2012, 08:49 PM
Then take the plastic syringe, dip the end in and start sucking up the glue:
http://i.imgur.com/b0eldh.jpg
Stop when you have enough and wipe off the tip:
http://i.imgur.com/ZwefEh.jpg
Attach the needle by screwing it on while pushing it in. Be careful to catch the glue that comes out while you do this:
http://i.imgur.com/JV4fQh.jpg
Fill up around the temperature sensor slowly avoiding making any bubbles. You will want to fill up just above the edge of the fitting as the glue will shrink down a bit. As the glue will run you need to secure it so that it doesn't run out. I put mine loosely in a vice:
http://i.imgur.com/CWzcDh.jpg
Here they are after drying for 24 hours:
http://i.imgur.com/p3nrCh.jpg
You can see the glue is lower than the edge of the fitting. If your washer/grommet wasn't a good fit, a good amount of glue may have leaked past. If it's too low you can always top off later.
http://i.imgur.com/H2rlZh.jpg
stren
07-03-2012, 08:49 PM
Now you're going to remove the grommet/washer and fill the other side of the fitting all the way to the top. Again take it slowly and avoid bubbles, keep going around and around the wires and try and keep the wires centered. Leave to dry in an upright position so that it doesn't run out the side:
http://i.imgur.com/zAgJQh.jpg
All done:
http://i.imgur.com/Pwhegh.jpg
You can then mount them in the bitspower q fitting:
http://i.imgur.com/1pCxkh.jpg
I then added on my VL4N QDC's (along with g1/4 g3/8 adapters):
http://i.imgur.com/Pn3Q8h.jpg
You can then add stop fittings and mount to your favorite waterblock and then leak test:
http://i.imgur.com/zunbbh.jpg
Looks kinda frankenstein, but hopefully the performance will be worthwhile :thumb:
I also made a video of the test setup here:
http://youtu.be/eO0ec6NLfa8
DaemonCantor
07-03-2012, 09:27 PM
Pretty smart to build your Sensors! Good Call!
stock12to32
07-04-2012, 03:01 AM
Wow!! these are all pictures of a dream. Very nice
DaemonCantor
07-04-2012, 01:37 PM
stren, when are you going to show more Pics of the Case? I want to see what all you have done to that since you've first showed it off...What Graphics have you done? Color Scheme? and such....
stren
07-04-2012, 06:08 PM
stren, when are you going to show more Pics of the Case? I want to see what all you have done to that since you've first showed it off...What Graphics have you done? Color Scheme? and such....
Ah I've been so busy and distract with this that I haven't made the custom wiring harnesses yet that will allow me to move the PSU to it's proper location. This means the gaming rig has been sitting on it's removable motherboard tray on the shelf looking sad :(
This cpu waterblock review sadly has to take precedence for now as some of the sponsors are antsy for review results. After that I'll be focusing back on the build full time. No more product reviews til I'm done with this build!
stren
07-17-2012, 12:04 AM
I did get a little bit of time to work on the main build:
http://i.imgur.com/v5qgwh.jpg
I decided to simplify my linux disk system. I had bene using a raid card, 4 ssds and 4 HDDs and now that large SSD prices were coming down it seemed like a good time to consolidate.
So I picked up a 512gb SSD to replace my 300 gigs worth made up of 4 drives:
http://i.imgur.com/idATSh.jpg
As well as a 3TB drive to replace my 3x1TB drives
http://i.imgur.com/WvFaVh.jpg
With linux drive if you're atuomatically mounting the drives then the order they get plugged in can matter. Going down to only 2 + an occasional backup makes life a lot easier when changing out motherboards.
http://i.imgur.com/wkljHh.jpg
I normally buy WD drives, but as they hadn't released a 7200rpm 3TB sata drive I went with Seagate
http://i.imgur.com/aKzijh.jpg
So I took out the side mount HDD system:
http://i.imgur.com/po6oUh.jpg
And started taking out drives:
http://i.imgur.com/0Q4y9h.jpg
The 512gb is actually smaller - 7mm tall while the older 128gb is 9mm:
http://i.imgur.com/eTkXMh.jpg
stren
07-17-2012, 12:11 AM
Spare drives:
http://i.imgur.com/tsXAhh.jpg
Nearly done:
http://i.imgur.com/LCqFLh.jpg
And done - the right drives will be for the gaming rig - 128gb boot, 2x128gb raid 0 for games, 32gb SLC for swap. The left drives are 512gb for boot/home of linux workstation, 128 temporary ssd that was left hooked up to transfer files, 3TB backup drive and 1TB old file storage.
http://i.imgur.com/MEwBEh.jpg
Now to sell the old stuff:
http://i.imgur.com/XfdJvh.jpg
stren
08-04-2012, 07:47 PM
Coming soon:
http://www.evga.com/images/forum/supernova/120-PG-1500-XR_XL_4.jpg
Oh and just to prove I'm still working on this project:
http://i.imgur.com/muPSQh.jpg
Meanwhile I've also been busy working on this:
http://i.imgur.com/AN7z9h.jpg
stren
08-08-2012, 08:56 PM
So when the inlaws came I moved the water cooling test rig off of the floor. The TX10 makes a convenient stand and also protected it from my niece.
http://i.imgur.com/vYqkYh.jpg
The whole thing makes the 30" monitor look small
Now that the august weather is here though I may have to move it to a different room - the extra heat is making it intolerable in here!
Menthol
08-09-2012, 12:17 AM
It is also warm in Orange County today, 2 earthquakes today, got woke up in the middle of the night.
stren
08-13-2012, 07:49 PM
Finished up the gtx 560 - here are some pics. Getting ready to start:
http://i.imgur.com/a7CTYh.jpg
Chopping some heatshrink:
http://i.imgur.com/bKajMh.jpg
2 fans done - ignore the yellow wire - I'm not actually hooking up the tach wire to the 12V, I just reused the yellow wire for the 12V line:
http://i.imgur.com/4tU7kh.jpg
One thing I learned is that you don't have to join the wires all in the same place, in fact it's easier and less bulky if you join the 12V wires at one point, the 0V wires at another point and do the sleeving join at another point. This way you don't get one big lump. So don't do it like this is what I'm saying:
http://i.imgur.com/Q1uGth.jpg
One side done - you can see the difference between the lumpy connection on the 3rd and 4th fan from the left, and the cleaner one on the 2nd/3rd:
http://i.imgur.com/HBKy4h.jpg
Now we have to move those fans on to the other (push) side of the radiator. So we have to add the 140mm adapters to the other side of the fan, and remove the adapters from the original side:
http://i.imgur.com/zqmDDh.jpg
stren
08-13-2012, 07:50 PM
All done with that side, now let's go do the same thing again for the pull side:
http://i.imgur.com/1rjwCh.jpg
Attaching the fans for the pull side:
http://i.imgur.com/qYpvOh.jpg
Nearly done - but the last piece of sleeve pulled out of the heatshrink:
http://i.imgur.com/n0tmIh.jpg
Replaced that section and all done:
http://i.imgur.com/zIdiYh.jpg
Installed - as you might be able to see, the section above with the low speed yates/HDDs still needs to be done:
http://i.imgur.com/NJ2p3h.jpg
As you can see there's still a ton to do in the bottom compartment:
http://i.imgur.com/3o31vh.jpg
This side that's open right now will house the ex560 that's currently being used for testing waterblocks, and the gtx 360 that I'm going to go wire up and sleeve right now :)
I have some ideas for lighting too that I'm going to test out also :)
Zygomorphic
08-14-2012, 01:28 PM
Sort of the way vines grow, you say? One-maybe two-branches at any one point. Looks great! "with the low-speed yates/HDDs..." can you explain that term, please? :confused:
stren
08-14-2012, 03:06 PM
Sort of the way vines grow, you say? One-maybe two-branches at any one point. Looks great! "with the low-speed yates/HDDs..." can you explain that term, please? :confused:
The side mounted quick release tray on the chamber above the GTX560 radiator is a hard drive mount with cooling provided by low speed yate loon fans :)
Here's the link to the side mount: http://www.caselabs-store.com/hdd-side-mount-tx10/
and here's a shot of mine:
http://i.imgur.com/po6oUh.jpg
Zygomorphic
08-14-2012, 05:22 PM
OK, so "Yates" is a brand of fan. That makes more sense. I was a bit confused there. :) Thanks! great build, your thread is one of the ones I actually go looking for to check for updates. Otherwise, I usually just use "New Posts".
stren
08-25-2012, 12:49 AM
Did a quick edit on the photos from yesterday's competition prize that came in:
http://i.imgur.com/co4qRh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9ENveh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KUlumh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1jyk0h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3N0uYh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dOcLch.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lA9zDh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VSLAwh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QS6cRh.jpg
More to come later of it going in...
Menthol
08-25-2012, 02:21 AM
Fantastic please let us know how this power supply is as I am looking at it with drool dripping down my face.
Imm0rtal
08-28-2012, 01:08 PM
Very nice build and setup :)
stren
08-29-2012, 12:02 AM
Thanks :)
Some of the pics from the last week's adventures:
Fitted the sniper to the 990x and installed some of the samsung superOC ram. Corsair promised to sponsor me some ram, but it never showed up and after 3 months of my emails being ignored I've officially given up on them :rolleyes:
http://i.imgur.com/ClPXZh.jpg
I want to make a custom waterblock for the RAM anyway, but that's still a gleam in my eye right now :thumb: Time to get to leak testing on the motherboard loop:
http://i.imgur.com/ziSOqh.jpg
After leak testing got done, I swapped the painted fan for one that worked and installed the motherboard tray into the *empty* chamber.
http://i.imgur.com/BFLy9h.jpg
I need to swap out the circuit board from the broken GT fan for a good one and then swap back in the painted one. Now it's time to start hooking everything back up:
http://i.imgur.com/3I9xzh.jpg
Plugged in the PSU cables, but the PSU is not yet there:
http://i.imgur.com/VZ7xJh.jpg
The sleeving is the stuff that came with the evga psu, that will be replaced with mdpc-x later:
http://i.imgur.com/XJMWvh.jpg
Finally with a PSU:
http://i.imgur.com/n7HNOh.jpg
Those extra 6 pin headers are annoying but the nice thing is that most of the PSU cables can be flipped so you can hide some of the extra unwarted parts by plugging them in the other way round :)
http://i.imgur.com/3eK9yh.jpg
Tidying up a bit:
http://i.imgur.com/8b3vbh.jpg
There's still so much to be done, and so much of this is still temporary e.g. fittings/sleeve/loop layout etc etc. But for now I'm just glad to be finally getting this rig up and working after 8 months!
LeviathanPT
08-29-2012, 09:26 AM
Man you could fit a minifridge inside that thing :| looks great.
To awesome m8, keep it up!:cool:
Zygomorphic
08-29-2012, 10:13 AM
Awesome, I have been waiting for this for nearly eight months! :) Is it fast? lol :p
Nackers
08-29-2012, 01:49 PM
I'm blown away, the Cooling, pluming and fittings are totally awesome as is the hole project..
stren
09-14-2012, 10:55 PM
To awesome m8, keep it up!:cool:
Thanks :)
Awesome, I have been waiting for this for nearly eight months! :) Is it fast? lol :p
Haha yes and I haven't started overclocking the gaming side yet. Need more pixels than 2560x1600 to really push this to it's limits.
I'm blown away, the Cooling, pluming and fittings are totally awesome as is the hole project..
Thanks :)
Another update - big one too!
So this is where we were last time - gaming rig trying to get up and working in a temporary state. Main loop not yet connected:
http://i.imgur.com/O9qO1h.jpg
To finish the main loop we needed to connect the EK400 reservoir with the custom 1" NPT tap to the Iwaki RD-30 pump. First we need to build a T section for the drain port:
http://i.imgur.com/tKfImh.jpg
These are standard schedule 40 pieces of PVC that I'm gluing together. I took a T junction and two 1/2" NPT reducers as well as a piece of 1" grey electrical conduit for making the 90 degree turn:
http://i.imgur.com/fwUqwh.jpg
This is all based on amuseme's idea except that I'm using 1" pipe instead of 0.75" and I connect to the pump slightly differently. So now we have to connect to the pump:
http://i.imgur.com/2641hh.jpg
So we take a 5/8" brass barb from your local hardware store and tape it up with teflon tape:
http://i.imgur.com/wxyXwh.jpg
1/2" tube can be warmed up and stretched over the barb. The idea is that the barb lines up right next to the 5/8" input to the Iwaki giving less restriction to the input feed of the RD30 unlike regular 1/2" tube would. I also added a 2nd barb for the drain tube. This reservoir coupled with the 1" pipe means there is a lot of water that needs draining easily:
stren
09-14-2012, 10:55 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TQcVqh.jpg
Both barbs in:
http://i.imgur.com/GnRHDh.jpg
Now let's hook up the pump:
http://i.imgur.com/WOSxhh.jpg
Add some worm clamps so that nothing flies free when you turn the pump up to 29V:
http://i.imgur.com/PnZOWh.jpg
Now let's add the drain tube, the tube color is temporary for now:
http://i.imgur.com/wxxn4h.jpg
Add the drain port:
http://i.imgur.com/8DNGfh.jpg
Add a worm clamp and we're done for now:
http://i.imgur.com/fV3tkh.jpg
Now it's time to put it in the case. As the reservoir was temporarily mounted we need to fix it first. There's a convenient metal plate in the case that you can unscrew and drill holes in:
http://i.imgur.com/aqokjh.jpg
stren
09-14-2012, 10:56 PM
Now let's reinstall that in the case:
http://i.imgur.com/M2lPih.jpg
And done:
http://i.imgur.com/pKIsph.jpg
The reservoir is fed by two drain ports. When feeding a larger amount of water it's useful to have one for water coming in and another for air coming out:
http://i.imgur.com/GFFdgh.jpg
Now here's the Iwaki Plus feed tube situated in the base. The cardboard box will be replaced with anti-vibration gel soon enough:
http://i.imgur.com/lVzWYh.jpg
Here you see the gap between the Iwaki feeding tube and the tapped base of the EK reservoir:
http://i.imgur.com/M9vBzh.jpg
I cut a piece of schedule 40 tube to size to glue in here:
http://i.imgur.com/JeTZgh.jpg
stren
09-14-2012, 10:57 PM
Later I will paint all of the tubes so it doesn't look so bad :p The cardboard box doesn't quite raise the Iwaki high enough so we'll need to swap that out:
http://i.imgur.com/fnOUrh.jpg
But here it is fully connected:
http://i.imgur.com/04WIch.jpg
And here's the whole side of the gaming case in it's temporary state:
http://i.imgur.com/MK6Jah.jpg
Now we can add the 360 radiator back in quickly (30 seconds) due to the Koolance quick disconnect fittings and the CaseLabs side mount design:
http://i.imgur.com/fVrEeh.jpg
I can't fit a 480 in because of the placement of the radiator and the feed tube. I may move it later, but for now this works. So it's time to fill up with water:
http://i.imgur.com/NhHTWh.jpg
Zygomorphic
09-14-2012, 11:18 PM
No photos in operation...:( Wow! That is one impressive build...love the low-tech motor damper. :D
stren
10-15-2012, 05:08 PM
No photos in operation...:( Wow! That is one impressive build...love the low-tech motor damper. :D
Lol yes I have to get some of petra's gel to fix that up properly, meanwhile:
Well time for a bit of an update! A big thanks to Corsair for sponsoring the build :)
http://i.imgur.com/6XkBDh.jpg
My original dominators (same part number) came in a much more boring box than this one:
http://i.imgur.com/GlLH6h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9etFMh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SWnUsh.jpg
And if you're wondering just how small those overclockable low profile sammy dimms are:
http://i.imgur.com/vADomh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dPgWgh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TyACHh.jpg
BTW just wanted to add that I started a facebook page so that if you're into that kind of thing you can keep updated on my reviews and other stuff!
https://www.facebook.com/ExtremeRigs
Zygomorphic
10-16-2012, 01:33 AM
Nice system! Those RAMs look really nice! What's with the small-form-factor?
stren
10-16-2012, 02:49 AM
Nice system! Those RAMs look really nice! What's with the small-form-factor?
You mean the low profile samsung dimms?
Zygomorphic
10-16-2012, 10:12 AM
You mean the low profile samsung dimms?
Yes. That is what I am referring to. I guess that would allow for more space for a CPU cooler.
Yes. That is what I am referring to. I guess that would allow for more space for a CPU cooler.
its on water ;)
stren
10-19-2012, 12:52 PM
Yes. That is what I am referring to. I guess that would allow for more space for a CPU cooler.
its on water ;)
Haha yeah - the sammys are cheap but overclock like beasts, I need something temporarily while I waited for the Corsairs, they'll eventually go in my wife's 3570K build :)
Update:
Morpheus from OCN stopped by and gave me some fan splitters which come in very useful for the quick disconnect of the radiators. Each radiator has two 3 pin headers that come from each side. This little PCB is then attached to the backplate of the pedestal:
http://i.imgur.com/fkyN9h.jpg
One for each side of the case. The distance between the two is conveniently sized to feed from a single molex
http://i.imgur.com/LggQ2h.jpg
I also got done painting the 24V Power supply for the Iwaki pump. I don't think I showed a pic of it before, but it looked like a very beat up version of this:
http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/blnc/120427/766r1/4743lnl_20.jpeg
Except that the mesh part was painted black on mine and had been worn off over time.
So I thought I'd paint the whole thing red and then mod a PSU support from the bottom heat chamber so that it can be mounted next to a fan from the HDD rack. I also need to hook up a relay so that it only turns on when the computer is on. Here are the pieces after painting and clear coating:
http://i.imgur.com/QkvCEh.jpg
With the PSU back in and the heatsinks retimmed:
http://i.imgur.com/LdOfSh.jpg
All sealed up:
http://i.imgur.com/gik8hQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BkJUPh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/W20Aih.jpg
That's it for now. Now that I have my windows PC up and running I can finally get sketch-up back and running and start playing with ideas for custom blocks and reservoirs!
Don't forget to like my facebook (www.facebook.com/extremerigs) if you want previews of updates, giveaways and also my watercooling reviews (17 cpu block roundup in progress)!
stren
11-21-2012, 01:14 AM
11/20/2012
Well it's been a while - I was busy working on my new website, the CaseLabs Merlin Preview, Spotswood Tech Station Review, the EK X3 Reservoir Preview, figuring out my new Nikon D5100 as well as finishing off the CPU Water Block roundup. I need a break but I'm almost done with all of that! Anyway - to celebrate not being fired yet I thought I'd work (finally) on the waterfall reservoir. This was originally inspired by Cyberdruid, however as he's retired I figured I'd have to make my own, and I suppose that's more fun anyway. I knew I would need a few attempts at this to get it right so I figured I'd make the prototypes out of MDF as it's cheap and easy to work with. So I went to the hardware and picked up a small board of MDF:
http://i.imgur.com/hfFKjh.jpg
Dragged out my lonely tablesaw from the shed and got to work. I cut some 3x 3" strips of the 4ft side of the board:
http://i.imgur.com/Xw4efh.jpg
I then measured the height of the 18 bays in the case and made the cut on one strip:
http://i.imgur.com/AkHA3h.jpg
Then I test fitted in the case which meant undressing the drive bays!
http://i.imgur.com/WWvWgh.jpg
Alright let's take that cover off:
http://i.imgur.com/peTI3h.jpg
Well that was fast, ok, drive bays next:
http://i.imgur.com/hOBQYh.jpg
Resting the wood on the bottom of the drive bay gives me this much clearance which is about perfect:
http://i.imgur.com/kmUjDh.jpg
So I cut the other side to the same size. Then measured and cut the top piece:
http://i.imgur.com/mm1dQh.jpg
It's ok for both these pieces to be flush because they'll be some kind of joinery action going down. For now I'm thinking a finger joint. Maintaining strength while being able to knock it out on the table saw. I then cut a matching piece for the base so that all the frame pieces were cut:
http://i.imgur.com/7Bohwh.jpg
I then started cutting the pieces that would form the waterfall itself:
http://i.imgur.com/llg43h.jpg
Seven down:
http://i.imgur.com/9cChwh.jpg
Tablesaws make this quick. All done, sitting on the uncut acrylic sheet that will make up the front and back:
http://i.imgur.com/ljMFEh.jpg
That's it for now!
Menthol
11-21-2012, 01:48 AM
Stren,
You one busy man, appreciate your block review, great work. And love the weather here in So Cal winters are great
Zygomorphic
11-21-2012, 02:47 AM
Nice waterfall! Is that really wood, because wood swells when wet as you know, and it might split/leak? Still, if it works, its going to be purty...
stren
11-21-2012, 02:58 AM
Nice waterfall! Is that really wood, because wood swells when wet as you know, and it might split/leak? Still, if it works, its going to be purty...
Just the prototype, it doesn't need to last. I'll coat it with something like polyurethane so it doesn't swell immediately. The final version will be acetal/delrin type stuff.
Stren,
You one busy man, appreciate your block review, great work. And love the weather here in So Cal winters are great
Haha yeah it makes it easy to keep working on this stuff :)
Zygomorphic
11-21-2012, 11:28 AM
Just the prototype, it doesn't need to last. I'll coat it with something like polyurethane so it doesn't swell immediately. The final version will be acetal/delrin type stuff.
Haha yeah it makes it easy to keep working on this stuff :)
I hope you can find clear urethane, because the wood is really pretty! At least, I think so. :)
stren
12-02-2012, 02:54 AM
It was raining a good bit this week so I didn't work on that, instead I put some painted parts back together:
I got done with spray painting the fans finally and reassembled the rotors into the housing:
http://i.imgur.com/jvcbWl.jpg
The paint was standard automotive stuff and came out quite nicely the red is metallic:
http://i.imgur.com/8jgMol.jpg
So it was time to sleeve:
http://i.imgur.com/bYbAkl.jpg
I started with the push fans and mounted them on the pull side of the radiator so that the spacing would be correct. Most of the time sleeving these is really spent soldering wire extensions on:
http://i.imgur.com/YvX6ll.jpg
Slow progress:
http://i.imgur.com/wgfOyl.jpg
Done with the first set of 3:
http://i.imgur.com/FI9cbl.jpg
Mounted the push fans on the push side:
http://i.imgur.com/jA50el.jpg
Now it's time to work on the pull fans:
http://i.imgur.com/ssBAjl.jpg
Ran out of red wire so I used yellow:
http://i.imgur.com/J70bml.jpg
Done with the pull side:
http://i.imgur.com/ddVvnl.jpg
Now it's time to join both sets of three into one. This is the 360 that will be replaced with the painted one:
http://i.imgur.com/iRkAgl.jpg
All put together on the push side:
http://i.imgur.com/IpSECl.jpg
And the pull side - which will need some custom stickers to pretty it up:
http://i.imgur.com/5hFC7l.jpg
I also sleeved a matching fan to go on the motherboard tray:
http://i.imgur.com/32QYCl.jpg
And there it is running:
http://i.imgur.com/wyyorl.jpg
:thumb:
ganji
12-02-2012, 09:36 AM
You must have a serious amount of patience, Still looking really good :D
Zygomorphic
12-02-2012, 11:18 AM
@stren, love that last picture, looks like your fan has 1/3 blade. :D
stren
12-02-2012, 06:21 PM
You must have a serious amount of patience, Still looking really good :D
Thanks ganji - progress is slow but we'll get there, hopefully before a Rampage V Extreme is released :)
@stren, love that last picture, looks like your fan has 1/3 blade. :D
Haha yeah funny trick of the light there :)
stren
01-19-2013, 11:43 AM
Hey everyone - it's been a while. Moving house soon so all I've really done is assemble some parts and do some sleeving. Here's the 24 pin extension. Eventually the PSU will get full sleeeve, but extensions can be trained better, so let's do those first.
Getting ready - cut the wire last night:
http://i.imgur.com/5ep6Nh.jpg
Getting my crimp on...
http://i.imgur.com/bQN27h.jpg
Males done:
http://i.imgur.com/Wm2Zph.jpg
Stripping:
http://i.imgur.com/1cR5Ph.jpg
Females done so now we our crimping is double-ended:
http://i.imgur.com/CNj9gh.jpg
Heatshrinkless FTW:
http://i.imgur.com/x16m9h.jpg
Details:
http://i.imgur.com/YhCRKh.jpg
Should have cut the outer run longer than the inner wire otherwise this happens:
http://i.imgur.com/KSnwuh.jpg
I'll either redo or just train the extension to have a hidden double kink that should take it out.
http://i.imgur.com/BT46th.jpg
Making progress:
http://i.imgur.com/wi2n2h.jpg
My fingers are definitely burned now:
http://i.imgur.com/MVn0lh.jpg
And done:
http://i.imgur.com/AW31lh.jpg
Daylight pics:
http://i.imgur.com/8IJaoh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aAXpVh.jpg
Nackers
01-19-2013, 12:24 PM
Very nice wiring there mate..
ronmolina
01-19-2013, 01:01 PM
Incredible!
ganji
01-19-2013, 07:02 PM
Nice job chap
Zygomorphic
01-20-2013, 12:58 AM
Nice work! Those power cables must have as much burnt finger holding them together as solder! :p
stren
01-24-2013, 08:22 AM
Very nice wiring there mate..
:D
Incredible!
Thanks it was my first sleeving haha, I was pretty happy with how it turned out!
Nice job chap
Well thanks old chap!
Nice work! Those power cables must have as much burnt finger holding them together as solder! :p
Haha yeah I've had to take a break because the skin on my thumb split open a little after doing the first pair of gpu cables lol. Speaking of which:
Here's some more after finishing up a 6 pin and 8 pin extension, mostly taken at the same time:
http://i.imgur.com/2qRyIe3h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/csypkfXh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/C9EE47Qh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TwuDsIZh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IUSxXRph.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pu6W2TQh.jpg
Also today I finally put the right memory in the gaming rig:
http://i.imgur.com/BnJ9Mpfh.jpg
This case now has 14 sticks Dominator GTs running... still needs the memory block and the right fittings though!
Then I messed about with the camera:
http://i.imgur.com/9b4h918h.jpg
Didn't quite work out, but thought I'd share anyway :)
Zygomorphic
01-24-2013, 11:18 AM
Nice system! :) I think it looks really nice. The sleeving looks good.
Dinnr
01-25-2013, 09:28 AM
Very very nice build!
Love the two systems.
after seeing this, i feel like im gonna mod my radiator like yours.. thanks senpai
stren
03-09-2013, 01:05 AM
MEGA POST!
So it's been a while. Not much progress on the build because I've been busy moving house, securing more sponsors for this build (see below) and getting review samples for future reviews as well as finishing existing reviews. I finally wrapped up my 17 cpu water block roundup which is posted on my website(extremerigs.net) and XS. Next I'm working on a pump/top/res roundup and a Titan water block roundup. In between I'll be slowly finishing this build. So here's everything that's happened in the last two months, some of which is relevant to the build and some of it isn't, but I figured I'd include all of it anyway.
Koolance sent some stuff - this is all for review though rather than this build:
http://i.imgur.com/NeHtID2h.jpg
PMP500, a D5 top and integerated 120mmx70mm (fat) reservoir and a bunch of the new QD style QDCs:
http://i.imgur.com/OikbnRsh.jpg
Let's start with the D5 Top:
http://i.imgur.com/50mk9oth.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TMLHpsVh.jpg
This is a full cover top that completely encloses the pump unlike the EK one that is just a top. A cylinder reservoir can also be mounted directly to the top if you want. With Bitspower you can buy a top and a seperate dress kit but the Koolance has all of it included:
http://i.imgur.com/dzDsDuDh.jpg
It comes with mounting brackets and plastic thing that I'm not sure yet as to the purpose!
The top is pretty serious and bulky like most D5 tops. If you want small, stick with a DDC style pump:
http://i.imgur.com/IzhRtczh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TUHXJNwh.jpg
The reservoir that Koolance sent is their "fat" 70mm ID variety which needs adapters to fit to the pump top:
http://i.imgur.com/HvLWuAuh.jpg
This should not be used for a frosty beverage:
http://i.imgur.com/CQoRN3vh.jpg
You can see the threaded adpater which will screw into the pump top. The pump top comes with a base adapter for a "normal" size reservoir.
http://i.imgur.com/vEav08Jh.jpg
Here it is fitted - the size actually works because the D5 top is so bulky:
http://i.imgur.com/urm8xHAh.jpg
Obviously the ftting at the top of the pump top would need to be removed and moved to the side inlet port. One thing I don't like is that this means you have to use the top port of the reservoir as your return line. I prefer to have that as the fill port.
http://i.imgur.com/n1kasceh.jpg
They also sent a PMP500 for review. This is their all new design that is much more powerful than a D5 or DDC pump:
http://i.imgur.com/uiEMtS6h.jpg
Came with no instructions:
http://i.imgur.com/yvknJsWh.jpg
A mounting bracket and some screws but nothing else:
http://i.imgur.com/pmmAxj1h.jpg
Integrated heatsink and nice looking top, but the two halves do clash a little in style:
http://i.imgur.com/6dz78ulh.jpg
It is however very compact for a more powerful pump. A D5 with a top is considerably larger:
http://i.imgur.com/E4Ldr6uh.jpg
I'll also be reviewing the new QDC's. I'd used the VL4N and VL3N's for a while and my main complaint was that the female connectors were sensitive to being bent out of shape when dropped. The new design should be more robust:
http://i.imgur.com/AX4loush.jpg
The QD4 series is the larger size that is more designed for industry than us guys. It is marketed as a direct replacement to the VL4N. It's larger and lower restriction than the QD3 and has fewer useful connection options. They do however come better packed:
http://i.imgur.com/irLqaDTh.jpg
No way these things will be damaged in transport. The business ends:
http://i.imgur.com/RejtMGRh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/E8RIY8Fh.jpg
Connected - you simply push the two together:
http://i.imgur.com/VJH7Wczh.jpg
Disconnected - you simply pull the ring labelled pull:
http://i.imgur.com/sPIlQvth.jpg
I have to admit I prefer the new mechanism - there's less time in the zone of being partially open, these really snap on and snap off quickly. No rotation is also a good thing as it lowers the risk of the other end of the tube becoming unscrewed.
The QD4 comes with two options for the other end - either 1/2" ID 3/4" OD compression fitting or a male g 3/8" fitting. Note that this is not a standard g 1/4 like 99% of computer water cooling components.
However Koolance have an adapter ready for you if you do wish to use these:
http://i.imgur.com/Swu7aChh.jpg
It barely adds anything to the length unlike the alphacool adapters that I've used in the past. I also like that they've included wrench flats on the threaded version:
http://i.imgur.com/16Y3vwph.jpg
Because these are lower restriction they are more bulky and will not fit on a block even with widely spaced ports like their own CPU-380:
http://i.imgur.com/LnuOHQZh.jpg
The QD3 series on the other hand is designed for computer enthusiasts. It's smaller and replaces the VL3N line up. These instead get packaged like normal fittings but with a protective rubber.... sheath on the quick disconnect end:
http://i.imgur.com/PbLrQLZh.jpg
Those were the 1/2" ID 3/4" OD compression fitting ends. These are the male g1/4 threaded:
http://i.imgur.com/JAcRQS8h.jpg
One of each with their rubber... booties on:
http://i.imgur.com/48dPwDeh.jpg
The quick disconnect part is much smaller:
http://i.imgur.com/oDQ7bxZh.jpg
stren
03-09-2013, 01:05 AM
Unlike the QD4's these can be directly mounted on most blocks that can fit 3/4" OD compression fittings as the compression fitting lock ring is the widest part of the QDC:
http://i.imgur.com/EXheK8Gh.jpg
QDD3 vs QD4:
http://i.imgur.com/YfXW6BLh.jpg
EK are sponsoring the build so a big thanks to them but also sent some stuff for review in the upcoming pump/res/top roundup:
http://i.imgur.com/lWWLtJyh.jpg
The RP452x2 I have will actually be removed and replaced with the 400mm reservoirs that EK already sent me earlier in the year:
http://i.imgur.com/Qk2uqqkh.jpg
That RP452x2 will be part of the roundup though lol. EK sent me lots of coolant:
http://i.imgur.com/fEhWUxih.jpg
I was trying to take a cooler shot - but it kinda looks like I'm bragging about my car so :shrug:
http://i.imgur.com/srj65j4h.jpg
DDC top - this replaced the XSPC acrylic one that I have so that all my pumps/reservoirs are consistently EK:
http://i.imgur.com/KEjxNqBh.jpg
Unboxing -
http://i.imgur.com/3vuMLVZh.jpg
I do love EK's packaging, the best out there to be honest and it makes you feel like you bought a quality product:
http://i.imgur.com/3vuMLVZh.jpg
Individual baggies:
http://i.imgur.com/PM5QuXEh.jpg
Sealed with a logo:
http://i.imgur.com/HDrtkrih.jpg
There's been a lot of hate on those circles, but EK are changing their designs now thanks to the thinkcell voting:
http://i.imgur.com/MtEOQYPh.jpg
I have to admit I'm a sucker for the details though:
http://i.imgur.com/1qH1R2Sh.jpg
Not much detail on the inside:
http://i.imgur.com/E68asUGh.jpg
You can see the slight angle upwards to the port:
http://i.imgur.com/iYuQQAPh.jpg
White D5 top - this replaces my old style EK Black D5 top:
http://i.imgur.com/uA6w3urh.jpg
Taking it's shirt off:
http://i.imgur.com/VFQW5Vlh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6rwFiO5h.jpg
stren
03-09-2013, 01:06 AM
White on white is hard to see:
http://i.imgur.com/iVOGicRh.jpg
So let's see it on a metallic grey background:
http://i.imgur.com/biPEFeih.jpg
I think this one unlike the DDC has a few too many circles
http://i.imgur.com/IkHZOynh.jpg
Do you spot the white theme:
http://i.imgur.com/mPvuS1yh.jpg
These will be on the workstation side representing the public "light" image of the thief, vs the gaming side representing the hidden "dark" side of the thief. There is some variation in the white acetal color but it's pretty minor. Hopefully it won't be noticeable:
http://i.imgur.com/F22F6syh.jpg
Lovely detail on the inside though it's hard to see:
http://i.imgur.com/U9MW7r0h.jpg
Now for that white reservoir that I posted an unedited version of this pic:
http://i.imgur.com/BmCdOVIh.jpg
Well let's do it properly now:
http://i.imgur.com/3NKKbs6h.jpg
Comes bubble wrapped and with an optional filter
http://i.imgur.com/LY80ofOh.jpg
All the accessories - sadly the mounting clips are still black:
http://i.imgur.com/nJQYRrqh.jpg
The base has 5 ports on all versions. The difference between the basic and advanced is instead the top. On the basic it only has one port. That's ok for me. I like to use the top as a fill port only and have the return in the base:
http://i.imgur.com/Un2YAQxh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DplaR2Rh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U3LDbDWh.jpg
The anti cyclone works, however bleeding is slightly faster if you use a long tube instead to prevent the bubbles getting back in the outlet:
http://i.imgur.com/Rumpbu6h.jpg
Dual D5 top - this replaces the bitspower one that I have, but never got to put in build. This will actually replace the Koolance RP452x2 that I'm using right now. Anything pump/top/reservoir will be reviewed in the upcoming roundup lol:
http://i.imgur.com/EfBpb63h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZekXuYth.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/94hihY7h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rR2ByREh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/glkxmfyh.jpg
Underside of the top:
http://i.imgur.com/QqoBhPbh.jpg
Top of the top, only a few circles:
http://i.imgur.com/YWmgPRsh.jpg
With the clamp plate that holds the D5 on added:
http://i.imgur.com/1IV5vIbh.jpg
This one is just for review not the build:
http://i.imgur.com/DNL793Vh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fUt0ciDh.jpg
2 bay res with integrated DCP 2.2 pump:
http://i.imgur.com/Mxsw4l6h.jpg
Lots of circles:
http://i.imgur.com/v3OnORnh.jpg
stren
03-09-2013, 01:06 AM
The bottom bay of the res is actually pretty useless, it's really just filling up the space around the pump:
http://i.imgur.com/OQgaKC6h.jpg
Lutro0's sponsorship package arrived so that I can finish my sleeving. Got a fancy wire stripper:
http://i.imgur.com/NtW3diXh.jpg
It was a bit dusty in the box but who cares about that:
http://i.imgur.com/zRL7VpSh.jpg
Lutro0's crimper. Supposedly the same as MDPC's but with a bit of milling to make it usable with AWG16. I need to get my MDPC one out to compare:
http://i.imgur.com/7WYlySrh.jpg
Comes with two example crimps just like Nils sends:
http://i.imgur.com/8Uvfs1uh.jpg
Flush edge cutters for cutting sleeve *not* wire:
http://i.imgur.com/ciRB7ALh.jpg
though you can use them for wire, you'll want a 2nd pair for that so they stay sharp:
http://i.imgur.com/vYcFClFh.jpg
Molex pin extractor:
http://i.imgur.com/V91pHgIh.jpg
Crimps and connectors:
http://i.imgur.com/I5oamZph.jpg
Lots of wire!
http://i.imgur.com/ncFpn2Hh.jpg
Also picked up this fan as a test to see how quiet it can go. I'm thinking of changing out all the fans now and running uber silent now that my long term plan is to use the front bays for 4x360 rads
http://i.imgur.com/YiLIBiih.jpg
Goes down to ~400rpm and Martin recommended it as being very quiet:
http://i.imgur.com/IQAsk0qh.jpg
Also got this as a tester because to be honest LED fans are cooler than white ones:
http://i.imgur.com/PCZzqgTh.jpg
PWM but only goes to 600rpm and is allegedly a bit buzzy
http://i.imgur.com/V0vIMoGh.jpg
Has a switch for the LEDs
http://i.imgur.com/nkkQCbKh.jpg
Also figured I should try PWM control of the existing gentle typhoons and yates in case it's the same volume and I can make my life easier, so I got one of these. Also recommended by Martin:
http://i.imgur.com/XPJEMHmh.jpg
I got the smallest one that fits in a 3.5 bay but there is a 6 channel one that takes up one 5 1/4" bay:
http://i.imgur.com/3tFNavah.jpg
If I end up using it I will be hiding it because it is pretty ugly:
http://i.imgur.com/ctepmgyh.jpg
Welcome to Alphacool also who are sponsoring the build. They sent me some rads as well as other stuff for review:
http://i.imgur.com/sCrURX1h.jpg
The monsta'st monsta:
http://i.imgur.com/76P0Y2rh.jpg
stren
03-09-2013, 01:07 AM
Hard to photo because it's so big:
http://i.imgur.com/9AMR4Irh.jpg
It's big. Next to an XSPC RX360 with push pull fans:
http://i.imgur.com/1tUBZJ5h.jpg
Comes with copper accessories which sadly don't match my build:
http://i.imgur.com/0lOttcdh.jpg
Also the sexy full copper UT60 in white:
http://i.imgur.com/cP3qSwKh.jpg
Get ready:
http://i.imgur.com/LnS2sxmh.jpg
Cause it's hot:
http://i.imgur.com/l32QtBmh.jpg
And it makes me want to take off all my clothes:
http://i.imgur.com/gJxe8Ehh.jpg
Also the full copper 45mm thick 560 known as the XT45:
http://i.imgur.com/J1yGfZph.jpg
Still bubble wrapped - I spot a pattern:
http://i.imgur.com/7maIEEeh.jpg
A 45mm rad doesn't normally look thin, but 560's are so big that it does:
http://i.imgur.com/8xWLppmh.jpg
Next to the monsta:
http://i.imgur.com/byUvaW5h.jpg
Also a thin 360mm, thin is useful for the side mount next to the PSUs where I don't have much room:
http://i.imgur.com/OvcLXXPh.jpg
This puppy is 30mm thick:
http://i.imgur.com/1F0xHP1h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/T0knII2h.jpg
Looks skinny next to a 60mm UT60 which itself is skinny compared to the monsta...
http://i.imgur.com/Z1y2PbNh.jpg
They also sent some stuff for review in the pump roundup:
http://i.imgur.com/BVBxgI4h.jpg
This is a single bay res with dual pumps:
http://i.imgur.com/Qzr9RZTh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qszxyhfh.jpg
It takes these tiny DC-LT pumps from alphacool also, they're not included with the res:
http://i.imgur.com/lwWRVFvh.jpg
But they sent me some too:
http://i.imgur.com/amH1v5wh.jpg
Box not up to the usual alphacool standard:
http://i.imgur.com/UpyFy1Lh.jpg
Tiny DC-LT pumps, we'll have to see what they can do:
http://i.imgur.com/BYTX4ikh.jpg
stren
03-09-2013, 01:09 AM
No kidding they sent me more stuff for review:
http://i.imgur.com/P13xuS3h.jpg
Well we know it's a pump/res of some kind:
http://i.imgur.com/MdzfCfkh.jpg
It's a 2 bay res that can mount 2 D5s. It's a similar setup to the RP452x2 that I have:
http://i.imgur.com/O9SwnPAh.jpg
Alphacool's black/copper theme is very consistent:
http://i.imgur.com/QabbNOTh.jpg
This one won't go in the build:
http://i.imgur.com/XK3smEAh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cQBYp1bh.jpg
But it did come with 2 D5's which I may end up using to replace the DDC or Iwaki:
http://i.imgur.com/m5dl9Keh.jpg
Alphacool's VPP655 is just a bare D5 vario with tach wire:
http://i.imgur.com/GPL5gtqh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kaM7XMsh.jpg
Spotswood had also sent me an update for the tech bench after I had some feedback for him:
http://i.imgur.com/0CU3K5Ih.jpg
A new "open" top tray:
http://i.imgur.com/UCpNXvDh.jpg
Taller posts so that the PSU can be mounted vertically, enabling a 2nd PSU to be fitted:
http://i.imgur.com/sJY4PDYh.jpg
And a HDD rack:
http://i.imgur.com/KcaQ0eMh.jpg
This is the old one:
http://i.imgur.com/FJdcrpdh.jpg
Getting taken apart:
http://i.imgur.com/TMZ98PRh.jpg
Now with more rotation:
http://i.imgur.com/jxrC5IHh.jpg
I tried the HDD rack at the back:
http://i.imgur.com/nPXeHfsh.jpg
(I have the case rotated on my bench so that the back is easily accessible). The HDDs slide in on rubber grommets:
http://i.imgur.com/cnOqYKph.jpg
Adding the new top:
http://i.imgur.com/Ld017Nbh.jpg
With boards and gpu:
http://i.imgur.com/Y855N9vh.jpg
Nearly done:
http://i.imgur.com/1SXlkg4h.jpg
In the end I moved the HDDs to the front and mounted the crystalfontz data logger in the back:
http://i.imgur.com/jHdSEOGh.jpg
This gives me space to get my hands under the motherboard for fitting backplates. I tried mounting a 360 to the side, but had to offset it a little for easy tube routing:
http://i.imgur.com/s8HXC7Mh.jpg
Now you can see the datalogger next to the PSU:
http://i.imgur.com/X3bqTjsh.jpg
You can also see the GT that I mounted on a sliding arm under the CPU. This cools the VRM's on the back of the board that will cause CPU throttling if they over heat. The sliding makes it easy to move out the way if needed:
http://i.imgur.com/TvwFnhfh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bdTBLHGh.jpg
Move views:
http://i.imgur.com/EoUvyVoh.jpg
I'll be using this just for controlling PWM in the upcoming pump testing lol. Talk about overkill. I have a couple of new cpu blocks to test though and then a titan waterblock roundup to do afterwards so it'll be more useful for that:
http://i.imgur.com/f3ahXjFh.jpg
The schmexies:
http://i.imgur.com/wXKx1t7h.jpg
Close up of how Spotswood builds up the frame from all the extrusion pieces:
http://i.imgur.com/1ZuFeEDh.jpg
THat's it for now!
stren
06-11-2013, 11:27 PM
Been a while, so here's kind of a dump of what I've been up to.
http://i.imgur.com/kLCSSHUh.gif
LIES:
http://i.imgur.com/vu8RtJfh.jpg
Also
http://i.imgur.com/uzk1mGGh.jpg
Also
http://i.imgur.com/0ihNDY6h.jpg
...
So the 9500GT in mini thief died last night, thinking about swapping out my 8800GT from the project thief workstation into that rig and getting a low end kepler for the workstation can drive three screens. The workstation uses linux and I'm thinking to switch my U3011 for 3 1080p lightboost monitors in portrait. When I've run multiple screens across multiple GPUs in linux before with Xinerama then X gets a bit laggy, so this would help with that as twinview on a single card works great, and I've read that twinview can have three screens with Kepler. The cheapest kepler with a block would be a 650 ti boost, but the block is a CSQ while the rest of the workstation uses non-csq blocks. Any thoughts? I'm reluctant to try AMD for a workstation GPU because even with nouveau drivers my tools become way more laggy than the official nvidia drivers.
I'm also debating paint and fittings for the 990x/R3E motherboard/RAM loop on the gaming rig. The idea is that the workstation half would be "white" (e.g. white blocks, dt sniper white, EK white D5 top, EK white reservoir, nickel/plexi memory block and copper/plexi gpu painted white and maybe even the motherboard nickel plexi block painted white too). The gaming rig would be the "dark side" acetal cpu and gpu blocks (although I just sold the GPUs). However the motherboard is nickel/plexi and the ram block is copper/plexi (not shown here):
http://i.imgur.com/z1SU3Xuh.jpg
Originally I thought to paint these black, but then you won't even see the dye in that loop. So I was thinking maybe a black chrome finish instead just for the memory block? I could paint the motherboard block stainless steel cover plate in the middle of that block black to fit the theme. Should I then use black chrome fittings or just straight black? Also that 120 radiator is getting swapped for a black one and that fan is getting swapped for a black/red fan. Also those QDCs will be hidden away.
So to summarize I want your thoughts on these questions:
Stick with light/dark theme?
Workstation
Paint the metal parts of the workstation plexi blocks white?
Use 2x8800GTs and suck up any lag if present or switch to a 650 Ti Boost with a CSQ block (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18039/ex-blc-1393/EK_GeForce_660_GTX_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Nickel_CSQ_EK-FC660_GTX_-_Nickel_CSQ.html?tl=g30c311s1851)?
Stick with the plan for white fittings?
Use a silver painted radiator with a silver/red fan?
Gaming Rig
Paint the RAM block black or black chrome to hide dat copper?
Paint the Motherboard block fully or only the cover plate and if so black or black chrome?
Use black fittings or black chrome?
End of questions - did this any of this make sense?
Current hardware plan (very subject to change) is to eventually add two titans or titan LEs and if I upgrade the workstation to the 4930K then the gaming rig will get the 3930K from the workstation and an X79 Dark board :thumb:
Also random shot from the mini-thief build - one thing i love about the M5Gene board is that glowing LED strip they put into the board - super cool:
http://i.imgur.com/cga1KqWh.jpg
I'd love to see them do something similar on a real R4E BE board not that promotional 3 board run crap they did ;)
...
http://i.imgur.com/XlkWsvZh.jpg
I upgraded the bios to avoid throttling and increased the power limit of the card so that I could try and seperate the results from the error as much as possible. I'm running Naennon's 145% Max Power bios. My max clocks were around 1150-1175 @1.212V (not the best card), so I downclocked to 1123MHz and tried a few benchmarks/stress tests to see what power levels I could get. Furmark was giving me a nice solid 120% level so I decided to go with that. I'm logging card temps with precision-x and the water/ambient temps with WinTest. I took some baseline measurements on air, with the fan at max (85%) the card was running about 50C over ambient which is not bad at all even if the fan is super noisy. First block on the testing rig is EK:
http://i.imgur.com/PjBi23mh.jpg
I also had time to unbox the hydrocopper card. The packaging is much less fancy than the Titan:
The matt block contrasts with the shine of the EVGA sticker:
http://i.imgur.com/X3MUayRh.jpg
I feel like the sticker takes away from the classyness. I would have preferred it to be cut out of the plastic just like the swiftech logo is:
http://i.imgur.com/dsIgdyUh.jpg
Maybe even make it consistent with the style of the top and maybe even light up some text there too:
http://i.imgur.com/X7DSyAih.jpg
The base is nickel plated:
http://i.imgur.com/O1YFl8ah.jpg
And it's kind of nice that they preattach the thermal pads for you:
http://i.imgur.com/9xomrbih.jpg
stren
06-11-2013, 11:28 PM
Had the hydrocopper on the testing bench. Results can be found on the interwebz.
http://i.imgur.com/zJgLe38h.jpg
Also spent the whole of saturday running flow/restriction curves on 17 waterblocks :rolleyes:
http://i.imgur.com/QdBdFI5h.jpg
I'd planned to disassemble the TX10 today because I'd found that if you rely on your rig that you're currently building for your day job and need a high percentage of uptime on that same rig, then it becomes very hard to get anything done. So I'd planning to run a bench setup for a while until I finish Thief. However on saturday just before I was about to process the restriction curves, my D5 on the motherboard loop started making horrible noises. I shut down the rig, but my gaming rig still wasn't functioning as the PSU died last week and the warranty replacement wasn't here yet. So it was time to strip them both out and make a frankenstein rig out of working parts. Hopefully parts that I wouldn't use in the final thief build. So here's the dissasembling which was very quick due to the TX10 design (quick release side mounts and motherboard trays FTW) as well as many QDCs. Photos aren't that great because I wasn't spending time to setup the tripod. I needed my workstation running for monday morning. I used the "bench mount" kit for the CL tray and used an old fan cut into a shroud to mount the radiator to the back of the tray. To support the weight of the rad on the far end I also have a piece of wood lulz
http://i.imgur.com/S8yuWTGh.jpg
Yuck dust!
http://i.imgur.com/ug3WkORh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ug3WkORh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qeRU35Ih.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Z8JKUJyh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Pd7mTdMh.jpg
Parts:
http://i.imgur.com/VHh2S5Ah.jpg
Draining the windows rig - this will become the linux workstation temporarily, I was rolling with the old 460 after selling my 580s and before the titan/780 transition:
http://i.imgur.com/eIqrJfzh.jpg
Stripping
http://i.imgur.com/ySakZ3Lh.jpg
Nearly naked:
http://i.imgur.com/j0Aedhth.jpg
I painted this RX360 for the build before I decided to change to a light/dark theme and before I got sponsored by alphacool:
http://i.imgur.com/6GEgoeah.jpg
Still rocking the sniper:
http://i.imgur.com/hNeQCODh.jpg
And of course EK still sponsor many other parts:
http://i.imgur.com/n0eMSYhh.jpg
Now if only ROG would sponsor me too :rolleyes:
http://i.imgur.com/buRhb37h.jpg
I love nickel plexi
http://i.imgur.com/JP7bc82h.jpg
Luckily Corsair does sponsor me too, I love GTs, who wants anything else:
http://i.imgur.com/BQ5gKHAh.jpg
And I still choose GTs over platinums because I love those red tops. And they're waterblock compatible. You know if I ever get around to that....
http://i.imgur.com/dWUoOp7h.jpg
Decided to run the monsoon lightports. I might switch to the carbon fiber ones though in the final build:
http://i.imgur.com/Z8PwG3sh.jpg
And it's about time to use some of that dye:
http://i.imgur.com/n0f4AHlh.jpg
Ready to fill up:
http://i.imgur.com/VyHrcKGh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HjxPCsOh.jpg
XSPC don't sponsor so this one's a freebie :rolleyes:
stren
06-11-2013, 11:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/PbeXi6kh.jpg
Get that dye in there!
http://i.imgur.com/kYMtOzBh.jpg
Masterkleer tubing hooked up, I was out of primochill clear so I was going to use this up, already turning a bit yellow after 6months of sitting in a dark box :/ :
http://i.imgur.com/inwOV3Hh.jpg
Forgot to tighten that middle compression, luckily it didn't leak:
http://i.imgur.com/1SreSHVh.jpg
sexy:
http://i.imgur.com/9PODwY9h.jpg
fill her up:
http://i.imgur.com/ttUptvvh.jpg
Leak testing:
http://i.imgur.com/yRSyDA4h.jpg
No leaks:
http://i.imgur.com/LahfviDh.jpg
Yummy:
http://i.imgur.com/2iiNoN7h.jpg
I WANT TO EAT IT
http://i.imgur.com/7sGkmdfh.jpg
NICKEL PLEXI AND DYE IS SO SCHMEXY
http://i.imgur.com/mIfR0AKh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LWRQAgPh.jpg
Done with the overnight leak testing and setting up:
http://i.imgur.com/FB01iEdh.jpg
Added an LED to the pump top:
http://i.imgur.com/GO7qMi4h.jpg
Light ports are weak during the day, hopefully I'll get some dark shots later on:
http://i.imgur.com/8SyfCFMh.jpg
I rotated the tray onto a spare desk and sat the PSU and HDD cage on the desk too. I put the PSU on some bubble wrap because it was having some weird resonance with the desk:
http://i.imgur.com/kLJyXmhh.jpg
I kinda wish I had a 2nd spotswood tech bench to be honest, but this'll have to do, the "tech bench" feet that CL have for it work well and I can afford the desk space for the rest of it.
http://i.imgur.com/cW3aBnQh.jpg
So the extension wasn't supposed to have this much bend so the inner wires are pushing through the outer :(
http://i.imgur.com/RR9xnFeh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LoEJG3Vh.jpg
Stripping down the old R4E, the nickel is stained because I ran pure distilled without a corrosion inhibitant...
http://i.imgur.com/Q46Mmy9h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WplKpBLh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9qm3CZ3h.jpg
I do prefer this to csq though
http://i.imgur.com/tRAKJxuh.jpg
beautiful condition one mount only :)
http://i.imgur.com/LbybbkXh.jpg
One mint always under water combo
http://i.imgur.com/YsNdlXIh.jpg
Say farewell to these:
http://i.imgur.com/P9E7h2mh.jpg
Got the hydrocopper block tested (results on the website)
http://i.imgur.com/Qd4mldlh.jpg
stren
06-11-2013, 11:29 PM
Got a new lens :)
http://i.imgur.com/WU8eKpnh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bkqYRB2h.jpg
Dust:
http://i.imgur.com/y1yvnlsh.jpg
Mo' Dust:
http://i.imgur.com/lZaZXIzh.jpg
Replacement NEX1500 PSU came in to replace the dead one:
http://i.imgur.com/hbR4hteh.jpg
I wish I had two of these beauties:
http://i.imgur.com/iwa5Pfqh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QrfHy7Fh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RsDCghLh.jpg
Oh wait I do, well temporarily:
http://i.imgur.com/aa1zsIRh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/udt9dBlh.jpg
Also got a GPU in for the workstation, now I can do three monitors with one card. Can you guess:
http://i.imgur.com/n83jN3lh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0UZvyz8h.jpg
This one gives it away a bit:
http://i.imgur.com/CbRJ2Oqh.jpg
The nice thing is that the 650 ti boost with the blower cooler like this still is compatible with a 600 block.
http://i.imgur.com/7SdZk0Fh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RIPOei2h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3YKoDC4h.jpg
So as part of the "getting stuff done" theme, I'd moved thief downstairs to the garage and setup the temporary test bench. The garage was still a mess as I was waiting for new benches and shelving units to come in so I could actually do something.
http://i.imgur.com/yoLMmOOh.jpg
I also forgot to bring home my liquid tape from work to add in the bazillion new thermal probes I got so titan testing was on hold:
http://i.imgur.com/WGI0kh7h.jpg
However I could continue some of the sleeving work:
http://i.imgur.com/Xi9VRyKh.jpg
I'd previously done one 24 pin, an 8 pin and a 6 pin. Since then Lutro0 had sent me some shiny tools and I'd started working on another 24 pin extension. I wasn't happy with the length of the inner run though as it wasn't giving me enough curvature, so I removed those wires leaving me only the outer layer:
http://i.imgur.com/Xi9VRyKh.jpg
I used lutro0's 16 AWG wire, which is pretty easy for a relative nub like me. By the end I was wishing for something stiffer though, but combined with the MDPC-X sleeve the resultant extension is pretty stiff. It still needs a good amount of training, so I seperated the two layers with some thin plywood:
http://i.imgur.com/NgLxzN1h.jpg
and clamped it in position:
http://i.imgur.com/mBunEMbh.jpg
The look is just about perfect, and hopefully it'll hold after a bit of time sitting like that:
http://i.imgur.com/FikMQkNh.jpg
I'd also seen some staining on my nickel blocks which looked similar to EK's testing of distilled only with no anti-corrosion additive:
http://i.imgur.com/Y0KGOevh.jpg
The acrylic isn't stained of course, but it's good to check:
http://i.imgur.com/Zsxi7emh.jpg
Giving the block a good scrub with detergent did nothing.
http://i.imgur.com/wOOCOM9h.jpg
EK used a metal polish to clean their blocks up and couldn't get it out of every recess, but I'm lazier than that and wanted better results so I did some research. Most people say don't use ketchup because you'll eat through the plating. So I thought I would try it on the underside to see how long it takes:
http://i.imgur.com/0QFzpZSh.jpg
After one hour:
http://i.imgur.com/1aIViFuh.jpg
The dark marks were not there before, the underside was actually clean. Not sure if the dark marks are staining or where the acid etched through the nickel faster. I'm going to continue the experiment to see how long it takes...
So that's it for now, hopefully future updates will be more frequent!
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