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    Question G75? Can we "upgrade"?

    I bought my G74SX last month, but then G75 is coming out in April. :S Makes me wish I waited for the G75. Is there a possibility of "upgrading" to the G75 for 25~50% off, or should I just wait until I can afford to buy a G75?

    And I am thinking this only because of some of the issues with the G74 that I *HOPE* are fixed in G75.
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    I highly doubt ASUS has any trade-in policy to upgrade to the next ROG notebook (I've never heard of such a thing except with leasing cars!): best thing to do is to get your G74 up on ebay for sale, and try to get as much as you can for it in prep for the G75.

    Not that the G75 will be all that different from the G74: a notch up the graphics card ladder (is it the 570M they're going to use?), and a newer processor (Ivy bridge?), but otherwise the same design. In fact, you could a) overclock your GTX560M in your G74 and b) drop in a faster core i7 mobile cpu (e.g. the 2860QM) and you'd probably have the G75, for <<$!

    Which issues with your G74 haven't been resolved?
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    The classic "My usb mouse is plugged in but my touchpad is still working too even though it's supposed to turn off", as well as a few missed keystrokes and whatnot, the former being the really big issue for me, especially when I try to play Fullscreen games. :/

    Also, I have not the slightest idea on how to overclock or "drop a new mobile cpu in."
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    OC of the GPU is done with software like MSI Afterburner. I've gotten my 560M to 900/1800 and the memory clock to 1600 MHz which has upped both my WEI graphics scores to 7.4 (from 7.2), which is probably thesame as the 570M stock performance.

    As for the cpu, yeah, its an involved process requiring disassembly of your G74...not for the faint of heart (I haven't even attempted it yet...still under warranty). I plan to keep my G74 for a few years (bought in october 2011), and maybe next year grab a 2960XM (the current fastest mobile processor) when they're alot cheaper and install it, just to stave off the inevitable climb towards obsolescence.
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    See, I don't know how to use those softwares, so I am scared I might actually end up causing more harm than good. I'd need someone to do it for me, or maybe follow a strict guide that shows the limitations of GTX560M 3GB. As for disassembling....*shudder*....I'd rather send it in to someone who has experience doing that rather than doing it myself. @___@;
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    A bit of buyer's remorse already?..

    When the G73 first came out, I said to myself "Wow! Now look at that beauty!.."
    But I decided not to get it yet. i thought maybe the next model would be more stunning.
    As it turned out, a lot of issues in the G73.

    Now I've got the G74. And I'm not disappointed. Methinks it was worth the wait.
    As it turned out, I'm mostly satisfied with it. (Some issues here and there, but there's none
    too big I can't handle, so far.)

    The G75 is fast approaching. But I'm having the same "feeling" on it I've had with the G73.
    So.. I'm gonna let this G75 pass by.

    I would go for the G76 instead. But only if ASUS customer sadisfaction is turned into
    customer satisfaction..
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    I suspect that while the G75 will fix some of the G74's most outstanding issues, it too will have its own grocery list of idiosyncrasies and oddities that will become infamous. The more things change, the more they stay the same. I've rather learned to live with the G74's problems (which are relatively minor) and would not want to "trailblaze" solutions to a whole new set just to have a G75.
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    So should I not even bother looking at the G75? :S Also, where can I find guides on how to overclock my GTX560M without worrying about its limitations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelaisAer View Post
    Is there a possibility of "upgrading" to the G75 for 25~50% off, or should I just wait until I can afford to buy a G75?
    Not a chance.

    And I am thinking this only because of some of the issues with the G74 that I *HOPE* are fixed in G75.
    Owners always wish that the things they don't like in their model are fixed in the next one. But I honestly think each new model is designed based on what they think will sell, and the need to compete with other manufacturers on features. "Perfecting" the previous model makes no sense, from a marketing point of view.

    I'll bet all those owners of G73s with defective touchpads thought Asus would HAVE to fix such an egregious design flaw in their next model.....

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    As mentioned for OC'ing my 560M I use MSI afterburner. What I do is try some settings, run a few graphics benchies (e.g. the graphics tests in Passmark performance test, at http://www.cpubenchmark.net) to make sure the hardware is stable with the new settings, and keep inching up the clocks until the NVIDIA graphics driver stops responding and resets. The you know you've gone too far, and you can back off a few MHz. Also keep an eye on the GPU temps: anything in the high 80's worries me.
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