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    ROG Member mrcougar53 +10
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    What works?

    Hello there,
    I am realativly new to overclocking (other than the reading I have done and expiriments I have tried) but want to do some decent speeds with my new set up, which is the whole reason I bought it in the first place. First off, I do minor gaming and mostly just fool around with mycomputer so the load on it will be very low most of the time. The primary thing I do with my computer is downloading and reading of various articles. That being said I am wanting to make it run as fast as possible without the BSOD from time to time just to show people what it is capable of, but for the most part I would like a stable 5+ ghz system if that is even an option. Here is what I have---

    MoBo: Asus Crosshair V
    CPU: AMD FX-8150
    Video: HD-6870 (probably my weak link)
    RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw series 4gbx4 DDR 3 2133
    SSD: Mushkin 120gb Sata 3
    HDD: Seagate 1.5 Tb 7200 RPM
    PSU: Corsair Pro AX 850
    OS: Win 7 Ultimate
    Case: NZXT Phantom red

    Currently everything is stock, but when I get off shift (I am a firefighter so on for a few more days) all my water cooling material will be waiting for me at home. It is a full water cooling system with CPU, GPU, RAM, NB, and SB all being used, with 3 possibly 4 radiators on 2 seprate yet intertwined circuits (one will dump into the other so the water gets used through out the system). The CPU will have a 360 radiator dedicated just to it and a 240 and (2?) 120 for everything else. I know it sounds childish but I would like to be able to push it to the max speed from time to time for demonstration purposes. This is basically a show piece and will look like it but also needs to act like it.

    So here are my questions..... What BIOS settings work to attain 5+ghz for normal home 24/7 use (low load) and then what settings for really pushing the speed for an hour or 2 at most at a time? Should I be doing this through the ROG connect or is it ok that I would rather just do it through the BIOS and if ROG is better which one to download, Asus has a few options and no explanations?

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    5GHz with the 8150 is doable. Read my guide with the exact same kit that you are using. BUT and this is a big BUT not all CPU's will be happy at that speed regardless of cooling.

    As you have read heaps of stuff you should have a pretty good idea what you can expect, and your system is going to look really good with all that water cooling you have planned. My advice is simply this. Play around with your kit, get to know the settings in the BIOS first hand. And just see what works or does not work with your system.

    I use the ASUS TurboV software for my in OS extreme overclocking.
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    HiVis,
    Thanks for the reply but did you know that you have, well I dont know the exact number, but a CRAP ton of posts? I cannot find the one related.... any help?
    MoBo: Asus Crosshair V
    CPU: AMD FX-8150
    Video: HD-6870 (probably my weak link)
    RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw series 4gbx4 DDR 3 2133
    SSD: Mushkin 120gb Sata 3
    HDD: Seagate 1.5 Tb 7200 RPM
    PSU: Corsair Pro AX 850
    OS: Win 7 Ultimate
    Case: NZXT Phantom red

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    Super Moderator HiVizMan +150 HiVizMan +150 HiVizMan's Avatar
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    HAHA what you mean my posts are all crap?

    I am sorry mate it is on the front page as guide. I did not word that particularly well.


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    ROG Member mrcougar53 +10
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    Oh yea, I read that one, it is a decent start and a good learning tool, but I am worried about over heating it too much. I have much more experience in engines and construction and know that if I make an engine too hot, it go boom!!! Is that even possible with today's parts and pieces or will they shut themselves down before that happens? I did go for a couple attempts before I went to work with my stock system and neither one of them would POST. I guess I just don't know enough about each setting in the BIOS to be able to make the proper changes that will work together correctly. I've read that plus the one by Raja and while they do a good job explaining stuff, most of it is still over my head. CAS latency, cpu/nb volts, dramm volts, multiplyer; I have a basic idea of what they do but is there someone who can put it into laymen's (layperson's?) terms for us with just enough knowledge to get ourselves into trouble with the BIOS? When I do IT work for the FD I explain things to my boss giving simple terms he understands, like comparing computer parts and problems to engines, while I know that this does not create a direct correleation it at least lets him have an idea of what I'm talking about rather than him hoping he catches the right bits and pieces.

    That being said, HiVis, is there something on here that will give me a basic breakdown of what things mean and then where the best place is to start? I know I'm supposed to do just one section at a time (cpu, then RAM, then NB or what ever order) so that I can rule our issues but then again when I hit an issue how will I know how to fix it?

    Paul
    MoBo: Asus Crosshair V
    CPU: AMD FX-8150
    Video: HD-6870 (probably my weak link)
    RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw series 4gbx4 DDR 3 2133
    SSD: Mushkin 120gb Sata 3
    HDD: Seagate 1.5 Tb 7200 RPM
    PSU: Corsair Pro AX 850
    OS: Win 7 Ultimate
    Case: NZXT Phantom red

    Call 911- Make a Fire FIghter Come

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    ROG Member mrcougar53 +10
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    Oh and one more thing, HiVis, your post are definetly NOT crap!!! hahaha, just 34?? of them HOLY MOLY, either you really know what you are talking about or are one hell of a B.S.er lol
    MoBo: Asus Crosshair V
    CPU: AMD FX-8150
    Video: HD-6870 (probably my weak link)
    RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw series 4gbx4 DDR 3 2133
    SSD: Mushkin 120gb Sata 3
    HDD: Seagate 1.5 Tb 7200 RPM
    PSU: Corsair Pro AX 850
    OS: Win 7 Ultimate
    Case: NZXT Phantom red

    Call 911- Make a Fire FIghter Come

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    I hear you mate about simple - the thing is that kind of method does not really work so well with AMD and or Intel overclocking. Mainly because there are many different routes to the same outcome, and no two components will behave in the same way. So providing a universalistic or hard rule for a setting is asking for trouble. However I am sure we can work out a simple terms of reference for your system.

    What is your realistic overclock?

    What cooling are you planning on using?

    And if you have told me these in an earlier post please forgive me but I read each and every post on this forum and I can not recall all of the details all of the time.

    As to your last post, I am happy with the latter version too. As long as folks get their systems working I am happy.
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    Realistic overclock - 23/7 home usage would like to be 4.5 or better
    Semirealistic overclock - would like to be 5+ or closer to 6 for short term demonstration purposes
    Cooling - currently completely stock but once I get home custom water cooled with all bits and pieces being cooled

    Impressive that you read all the posts! Thanks for giving me some of your time!
    MoBo: Asus Crosshair V
    CPU: AMD FX-8150
    Video: HD-6870 (probably my weak link)
    RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw series 4gbx4 DDR 3 2133
    SSD: Mushkin 120gb Sata 3
    HDD: Seagate 1.5 Tb 7200 RPM
    PSU: Corsair Pro AX 850
    OS: Win 7 Ultimate
    Case: NZXT Phantom red

    Call 911- Make a Fire FIghter Come

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    OK 4.5GHz can do with your water system.

    GHz also pretty confident we can do. Might be problem if you chip is a hot one but odds are in your favour.

    You want 6GHz, maybe 7GHz or more?

    How about a bit of this?



    You are going to need some serious cooling for that.

    LN2 is good.
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    Wow, Hivis, is that your system? That's pretty insane.

    I know MrCougar in person and have a very similar setup. Here's my setup

    AMD 8150
    Crosshair V
    G.Skill 16gb 1866mhz (This differs from MrCougar's system in that the speed is a bit slower)
    Radeon HD5770
    74gb Raptor 10,000rpm hdd

    I've also got liquid cooling on its way to me, but to keep it far simpler than MrCougar's system, I just bought one of those self-contained Corsair H100 systems. I know it won't cool my system near as well, but it is what I can afford.

    Will I be able to attain 5ghz out of my cpu with this setup? Will I have any issue with my NB overheating? Or any other part of my mobo for that matter. Will I be able to keep all 16gb running or do I need to remove two modules and keep only the A1 and B1 slots filled? Will the memory be able to stay the same speed at 1866mhz or will I need to slow it down?

    Thanks for all your help, man. I appreciate it.

    Also, MrCougar - you suck (Not sure why. I guess because you can afford fancy cooling and I can't)
    Last edited by Jawbone; 04-19-2012 at 04:40 PM.

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