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AC3OFSPADES
01-29-2012, 11:40 PM
So I was orginally going to get http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1753792&csid=ITD&body=QA#tabs but prior to me ordering I saw some comparisons between that and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152267. So I will first say that posting a "should I buy a MSI over a ASUS" post on an ASUS forum is a bit strange but I'm hoping for some honest un biased feedback.

From what I have seen the MSI does outscore the ASUS in a few Benchmark tests but only barely. I really like the look and design of the ASUS though. It just looks put together very nicely and the matte finish is a huge advantage while the MSI just (to me) plasticy and cheaply put together. The Steelseries keyboard is a selling point for the MSI but when I looked at a video of it in use, when you press down on a key the surrounding keyes also are pushed down a bit giving it a cheap feel. Now the sound, obviously the MSI has the advantage with the Dynaudio speakers. I have seen some reviews saying that they tend to go out after a few months. Another thing I have seen is that a lot of people are saying that the MSI has some terrible soldering and quite a few parts come loose because of it. Last but not least the ASUS has the bluray and the MSI does not, deal breaker. I would hope that any notebook with this kind of hardware would also have a bluray.

All in all I like the overall look of the ASUS and that it looks like a solid machine. The MSI has the "cheaply built" look to it and some of the reviews support that, however it does have a bit of an advantage with the features it has with it. The ASUS also comes with the bag and the gaming mouse which is extra money I would have spend if I went with the MSI

Here is one of the reviews I watched on both.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXx6nr_jvjY&feature=related

Let me know what you think . I *hopefully plan on purchasing one by the end of the week.

dstrakele
01-30-2012, 12:19 AM
I remember watching that same video shootout review after purchasing my G74SX-A1 and having buyer's remorse. The MSI has hardware RAID support, more RAM, an eSATA port, an additional USB 3.0 port, a larger battery (longer battery life), a smaller dimensional footprint, and less weight. I do like the sleek understated look of the ASUS and like you find the MSI look somewhat 'cheap'.

At the time of purchase, I had looked at some MSI systems on Amazon (but had not seen the shootout video) and I decided I just didn't know enough about MSI to be confident in the purchase. ASUS was known to me, it looked like their cooling system was well-designed, and the reviews were mostly excellent on Amazon.

From what I know now, I see both the MSI and ASUS systems attempt to offer the best specs at bargain basement prices. ASUS has the bigger market share and brand name familiarity, so it can offer less than MSI and still be competitive. Since they BOTH offer good specs at a discount price, I imagine their margins are razor thin and both companies will look to lower cost at the expense of quality control.

When I look on Notebook Review Forums at the MSI and ASUS forums, I tend to see more posts of computer issues (touchpad, keyboard, sound, video, BSOD, lockup, noises, startup failures, display defects, power pin connector breaks, RMA bad experiences) and more severe issues reported on the ASUS forum. Could this be simply because ASUS has more laptops out there? I don't know.

My suspicions are that MSI needs to somewhat out-spec the ASUS offerings to remain competitive, since they are less well known. I imagine their quality control isn't any better than ASUS, and could even be worse (resulting in the cheap appearance). Their technical support and RMA results are also probably at the same low level or worse. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if both laptops were manufactured in the same factory!

So I think "you pays yer money and you takes yer chances" with either laptop. Buy only from a reputable retailer that will allow you to exchange a defective unit immediately for a new one or give you a quick refund and try to avoid RMA of your laptop at all cost. Also be prepared to have to exchange or obtain a refund multiple times before you get a system that is initially free of issues.

AC3OFSPADES
01-30-2012, 12:38 AM
When I look on Notebook Review Forums at the MSI and ASUS forums, I tend to see more posts of computer issues (touchpad, keyboard, sound, video, BSOD, lockup, noises, startup failures, RMA bad experiences) and more severe issues reported on the ASUS forum. Could this be simply because ASUS has more laptops out there? I don't know.

See the thing for me, is that from what I have read the MSI has had more "physical" issues than ASUS. things like startup failiues, video, touchpad, and the technical issues that I've seen posted about the ASUS on this forum (MSI has its fair share as well) are less of an issue (in my mind because there is almost always a solution, workaround, or exchange) than actual pieces coming off. Which is why the more I think about it, I'll probably end up going with the g74sx, just because it looks like its a bit tougher. Things like the lower end speakers can always be fixed with some nice speakers from newegg. Speakers that break easily are more of an issue.

dstrakele
01-30-2012, 12:47 AM
See the thing for me, is that from what I have read the MSI has had more "physical" issues than ASUS

Where did you read this? I'm just curious and interested in giving a more well-informed answer when people post the question. I haven't come across such information.

panth3ra
01-30-2012, 12:47 AM
Q: Asus or MSI

A: ASUS

AC3OFSPADES
01-30-2012, 01:08 AM
Where did you read this? I'm just curious and interested in giving a more well-informed answer when people post the question. I haven't come across such information.

The newegg reviews of this notebook is littered with them. soldering problems, parts coming loose, etc.


I also just got off the phone with the tiger direct sales and the backpack and the mouse does not come with it if it buy it through them which sucks but its still a decent price. 1399.99

chrsplmr
01-30-2012, 02:06 AM
This thread is a perfect example of this forum and members @ its best. cudos one and all.

OP: Asus.
Why ? We know the issues of the G. We know the work arounds and all the tweaks.
We know the strengths. We know where improvements
are needed. We know which to look for and not. We know that in the end if there is issue,
it Will be resolved .... sometimes not timely ... sometimes not the first time.
However... Supporting the current generation of ROG products funds further research
and development for the next generation with user/Member feedback as a road map.
Buy ROG - Advance the GAME -->my2cents--> and... Welcome.
( There is a new model being released also I understand--was Asus listening ?? )
MSI ? Come on, how do you even spell that ?? c.

Boosted_R
01-30-2012, 02:24 AM
when I was looking it came down to MSI or ASUS....... I wanted the GT780DXR, my issue was the steel series keyboards was failing like no tomorrow ( too short of a connector, it turns out to be), and warranty wasn't as good for canadian consumers, i would have to pay for shipping. the 780 has great speakers and more features, like raid ) ect. The G74 on the other hand had a nicely designed cooling and paid shipping both ways for canadian consumers for warranty. The G74 does have its downsides..... touchpad issues, keyboard issues for some (mine is fine), no numlock, no raid 0....... It comes down to what your looking for. Had my G74 since august 2011 and no issues with hardware other than the touchpad.

AC3OFSPADES
01-30-2012, 02:44 AM
when I was looking it came down to MSI or ASUS....... I wanted the GT780DXR, my issue was the steel series keyboards was failing like no tomorrow ( too short of a connector, it turns out to be), and warranty wasn't as good for canadian consumers, i would have to pay for shipping. the 780 has great speakers and more features, like raid ) ect. The G74 on the other hand had a nicely designed cooling and paid shipping both ways for canadian consumers for warranty. The G74 does have its downsides..... touchpad issues, keyboard issues for some (mine is fine), no numlock, no raid 0....... It comes down to what your looking for. Had my G74 since august 2011 and no issues with hardware other than the touchpad.


yea the keyboard seems to be a popular subject when bringing up issues. This is a direct quote from a newegg review of the MSI.

"The keyboard seems like it isn't really attached solidly to the laptop. It seems kinda flimsy. The keys make a nice, solid click and it's easy to type on, but seeing it bend in from typing softly worries me"

and thats what I mean when I say a "cheap" feel. on the vs. video i put up you can see it when the dude is banging on the keyboard, the whole thing seems to push down just from pressing a key.

evgasr2
01-30-2012, 05:49 AM
please dont buy asus g74 it has onboard vga, you never can upgrade graphics, in this laptop. I tell you to stick with MSI its great and no probs at all. but you can see asus problems all over several forums, im a owner of asus g73 and i still tell you to go with any other brands.
if you buy asus in few days you will be posting a thread for help., :o

AC3OFSPADES
01-30-2012, 06:03 AM
please dont buy asus g74 it has onboard vga, you never can upgrade graphics, in this laptop. I tell you to stick with MSI its great and no probs at all. but you can see asus problems all over several forums, im a owner of asus g73 and i still tell you to go with any other brands.
if you buy asus in few days you will be posting a thread for help., :o

Thats a pretty vague post. apart from the the onboard vga part, which I doubt I would ever need to upgrade it for what I would be using it for, why specifically would say not to get a g74. you have a g73 so the problems you have w/ yours may not even exist on a brand new g74


I tell you to stick with MSI its great and no probs at all the MSI does actually have quite a few problems.

evgasr2
01-30-2012, 06:11 AM
I dont care whatever you buy , but to safeguard you from danger I told this to you thats all. I bet one day you will be in this forum seeking help. at that time you will think about me. :cool:

BrodyBoy
01-30-2012, 06:21 AM
I dont care whatever you buy , but to safeguard you from danger I told this to you thats all. I bet one day you will be in this forum seeking help. at that time you will think about me. :cool:

He's already on this forum seeking help....with his buying decision. Several members who actually like to be helpful have chipped in and offered useful insights. There is nothing useful or helpful in your peevish remarks.

evgasr2
01-30-2012, 07:42 AM
yo why are you so worried about that i didnt even tell it to you dont plug your ass in this matter.

PILGRIM
01-30-2012, 09:12 AM
yo why are you so worried about that i didnt even tell it to you dont plug your ass in this matter.

Do you need to be reminded that this is an open forum and any member can post to any discussion?

Regarding MSI, can you vouch for all its products' reliability? Do you have an MSI laptop yourself?

Bekarasha
01-30-2012, 11:44 AM
evgasr2 u r big troll :)
nothing in this world perfect even ur msi, every computer on planet sometimes have a problem, its depend who is using it, ive got G74sx and im 1000% satisfied with it, great laptop ever!

and i do not care if u can or not switch VGA, because this laptop ill use for 2 years and in this time will be so many changes in hardware so replacing video will be not enogh :)

380mcn
01-31-2012, 01:30 PM
after my purchase i really think i should have gone to the MSI (i bought the asus) IMO. MSI has more options (apart from the slight CPU difference where the asus is better)

pro: more usb, esata, audio input/outpud, spdif
cons:cpu and i really think the msi will get hotter!

evgasr2
01-31-2012, 01:39 PM
after my purchase i really think i should have gone to the MSI (i bought the asus) IMO. MSI has more options (apart from the slight CPU difference where the asus is better)

pro: more usb, esata, audio input/outpud, spdif
cons:cpu and i really think the msi will get hotter!
lol , i gave you several warnings but you didnt listen to it.
so you made your self burried under mud, i think my words mite be hittin you now, can you exchange it for a msi that would be better.,
go to the shop and behave rude then they mite exchange it lol. dont get exited.

chrsplmr
01-31-2012, 04:30 PM
PILGRIM..as usual... you are 100% correct.

All Members can post. Comparisons and Reviews offered
without actual experience are quite laughable.
The only factual opinion this offers is "MSI is better because I have One"
We just cant see the tongue sticking out--haha--no avatar.
Buyers Remorse? - sell - buy/trade - smile again - move on.

Since the MSI offered such a complete and positive experience, I for one
would be very interested in thoughts and conclusions after actually
using a G.... and stand by all rights to Bring Facts Not SPAMed Bashing Flames.

As AMD/Intel or Ford, Chevy, Dodge ... What is best is, is as you like.
Some simply hold more records than others and growing.

We now know it was Ford ---- they wouldn't drink the koolGOVaide.

AC3OFSPADES
01-31-2012, 05:47 PM
Well I think I'm probably going to stick with the ASUS. Most of the input from everybody has been really helpful. Honestly I could care less about some of the features the MSI has, like the keyboard, Raid0, or the speakers. I'm just an avid gamer who wants a high performance machine that wont fall apart. And the G74 wins in that category IMO.

rozwell911
01-31-2012, 06:51 PM
@AC3OFSPADES

I took an honest look at a lot of laptops before i purchased my G74....I read a lot of forums (Notebook Review Especially) conserning MSI, ASUS, HP and Dell (ALienware). I Ended up between ASUS and MSI, and i still went with ASUS.

Just like you i too read a few thing on Amazon.com about how people we having physical problems with parts falling off....Where most of the problems with ASUS are softeware related. Becasue of this and a few other major things, i went with ASUS. I felt that i could deal with software issues better than with physical problems. The asus is also more in my price point and i loved the design better.

Honestly, all computers are not without problems, and with all the software out there bad updates, bios crashes, there are bound to be bad eggs in ALL MFG out there, not just ASUS or MSI....

All in all i felt i made the right choice....and remember, most people will post the bad, to vent, over the good so there will always be more bad posts for any MFG than good ones. Its all about picking the right fit and weeding out the bull from the truth.

evgasr2
02-01-2012, 02:15 AM
man your now burried , so even if god comes and tell you , you wont change it , because your addicted to it. do you know if you were with a person you hate for more than 3 day you start to trust them more than your self and even anyone comes and give a replacement you wont go with it. its a psychothrapic reacation that everyone have.

chrsplmr
02-01-2012, 02:27 AM
evgasr2... you are a closet ROG'r it is now clear.. come out, set yourself free...

a monkey can look at these two laptops and know you just cant admit
that YOU made a mistake ... let it go .. it sucks being wrong..
but trust me... you WILL get over it.

MSI .... hahhahahaha ... read their own splash screen.. hahahaha
u crack me up....hahahhahahaa

380mcn
02-01-2012, 01:22 PM
lol , i gave you several warnings but you didnt listen to it.
so you made your self burried under mud, i think my words mite be hittin you now, can you exchange it for a msi that would be better.,
go to the shop and behave rude then they mite exchange it lol. dont get exited.

clearly you are mistaken!
we have never talked before.

i won't exchange for a msi because the temps would be higher and the performance the same.
today i would have bought the msi, but i don't regret my purchase.

The question of this thread is simple: ASUS or MSI? I know go to the msi, but i like the g74 a lot

chrsplmr
02-01-2012, 01:41 PM
380.... you did the right thing... he is the one in buyers remorse ... or a spammer ... either way..
he dont ROG ... so he dont know .... forgive him..hahahha..and forget.

there had to be one last one on the planet that was clueless .... G all day...all the way.
MSI .... hahahhahahhahaha ... be serious.c.