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02-29-2012, 01:42 PM
Hello Readers from the ROG Forum,

I'm building a new system for myself with the new Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z, the Obsidian Carnage.

My name is Stef (eng: Steve) and I'm from Holland and living in a town called Enschede.


It will be a Game-PC with a fat OC tuning! I didn't want a big tower so I looked arround for a mid tower. With this mATX motherboard, a Big Tower will lose the effect on a little motherboard. And there will be to much space. Space I don't want or need. So that why I bought the Corsair 650D.

I wanted a nice Case with fine lines in it. No "tierelantijnen" so as we call it in dutch. Corsair Obsidian 650D (http://www.highflow.nl/behuizingen/corsair-obsidian-650d-midi-tower-case-cc650dw.html).


This build has no known plan, and I am still figuring out what to tho with this 650D. So I will update every once a while. I'm not gonna bother you anymore with lame text. See for yourself.

PC Hardeware:

Intel Core i5 2500K
ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z
EVGA GTX560Ti FPB (2x)
Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 CL9 16Gb
OCZ Vertex 2 Extended 60GB
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB (2x)
Lite-On iHBS112-37
Corsair AX850 Watt


Cooling Materials:

EK-WB HF Acetal
EK-MOSFET Max IV Gene - Acetal+EN Nickel
EK-RAM Dominator X4 - Acetal + EN Nickel
EK-TUBE 250 Advanced
EK-CoolStream RAD XT 120
EK-CoolStream RAD XT 240
EK-CoolStream RAD XT 240
EK-FC560 GTX - Acetal + Nickel -EN- V2
EK-FC560 GTX - Acetal + Nickel -EN- V2
Bitspower D5 Modkit
Bitspower TOP Acetal
Killer Coil 99.9% Silver


Extra Cooling parts:

EK-PSC Schroeffitting Black Nickel
EK-CPU Easy Mount HF - Black
Tygon R3400 - HighFlow - 3/8 ID - 1/2 OD - Black
Bitspower G1/4 Matt Black Low Profile Stop Fitting BP-MBWP-C09
Bitspower Crystal Link Tube For 2-Slots (SLI/CF) BP-CLTAC-S3
Bitspower Schroeffitting Paar - G1/4 (2 stuks) Matt Black
Bitspower G1/4 Temperature Sensor Stop Fitting
Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm 1850rpm
Scythe Slip Stream 120mm 2000RPM Slim


Extra Materials:

MDPC-X Sleeving
Led's by wwwicked Red
120MM Scythe Fan Guard12 SFG12-SL

List can still be updated :)

Stay Tuned...

02-29-2012, 01:43 PM
(Space for yummie pictures)

U can find more pictures or builds at www.cygnitr0n.nl

Again a new package!

So, and here we begin, screwing the nice Mosfet off (sorry that u have to go m8)

And cleaning everything with the Artic Cleaning Set.

This is a beautifull piece of EK. The Acetal Mosfet Block.

And the CPU getting the Acetal Top <what a work! $%(%# rubber>

EK-CPU Easy mount, very nice!

Tygon Black Tubes, keeping it black.

02-29-2012, 02:05 PM
(Space for Yummie Pictures)

(Space for Yummie Pictures)

And for just a little modification, I made the stickers for the RAM with aan ROG look.

There they are.

The first one done :D

and the rest..

And this is how it looks on an Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z.

02-29-2012, 02:05 PM
(Space for more yummies)

I build it already, just to see how it looks and if the parts will fit, but I need the time for more inspiration to modify the 650D. Here are some pics.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/399992_375706009122425_100000490862001_1475210_116 5390912_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/401055_375706042455755_100000490862001_1475211_187 5440656_n.jpg


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/428719_375706199122406_100000490862001_1475213_839 809930_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405778_375706345789058_100000490862001_1475215_613 093500_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/418528_375706415789051_100000490862001_1475216_172 1424310_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423980_375706525789040_100000490862001_1475217_186 6590629_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422117_375706709122355_100000490862001_1475221_710 855751_n.jpg

Stay Tuned for more!
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Loud & Fast
02-29-2012, 05:49 PM
I rearly like these ram stickers.

02-29-2012, 07:58 PM
Very nice, I also like the RAM stickers.

I am thinking of downgrading from my 800D to the 650D.

02-29-2012, 08:02 PM
AWWW! and I want an 800D soo much! but just can't afford it yet! Nice stickers too! but I like even more what you did on the Water Cooling System! that looks sharp with the Black tubing!

03-05-2012, 10:37 AM
I rearly like these ram stickers.
Thanks! :)

Very nice, I also like the RAM stickers.

I am thinking of downgrading from my 800D to the 650D.
Yeah, i wanted de 800D so badly, but it's to big (And big money).
But the 650D works great for me.

AWWW! and I want an 800D soo much! but just can't afford it yet! Nice stickers too! but I like even more what you did on the Water Cooling System! that looks sharp with the Black tubing!
Thanks! I wanted to keep de theme Obsidian, because it is black. I runned the coolingsystem with Blood Red Coolant, but liked de Black Tubing more.

I'm thinking about a red Carbon at the backside of the case where the Mobo is attached to. De Black is now to much.. I think.


Area 66
03-05-2012, 11:53 AM
Nice baby ....

03-05-2012, 12:42 PM
im speechless ... hahhahaha .. well that dont happen often.. very nice.c.

03-05-2012, 12:56 PM
Nice baby ....
Thanks! :) It's getting much love.

im speechless ... hahhahaha .. well that dont happen often.. very nice.c.
That's a big compliment. I've enjoyed building it till now :) and it will go further.

Area 66
03-05-2012, 01:00 PM
Definitively we need ROG SLI Bridge....

im speechless ... .


03-05-2012, 01:20 PM
Definitively we need ROG SLI Bridge....
Yeah we do :p

03-05-2012, 01:22 PM
Thats gone be a bad ass combo.:cool:

03-05-2012, 01:38 PM
Thats gone be a bad ass combo.:cool:
It will be ;)

Area 66
03-06-2012, 12:40 PM
I just notice, you have a rad mount inside betwen the PSU and the motherboard , are the fans pushing down or pulling up ?

03-06-2012, 01:10 PM
They are pulling the air from bottom till top. I've got enough airflow to push the heat out of the case.
The max temp I measured was with 4 hours playing around the 48C / 118F. I find that cool enough, because all the parts are liquid cooled.

If I did this with push, the air would not escape as easily.

03-06-2012, 01:29 PM
So more pictures installing the GTX560Ti card.

Tadaa! The whole Package. This was a gift from my Girlfriend! Love her <3

So this is my GTX560Ti from EVGA with the Backplate, also from EVGA. One of the first here in Europe. And beneath it the EK GTX560Ti Water Block! Ooh that's so nice!

And so I dismounted the EVGA Reference Cooler from the videocard.

Putting the thermal pads in to place. First I cleaned it with ArticClean the I put al dot of MX-2 on the chips.

And here is the block with the MX-2 (Thanks Chocoprins for the pasta)

The it's done. Screwed the thing tightly. And unscrewed it again to check if all the parts are good.

The Second one is also done. Much faster then the first one! Got the skill baby ;) hahaha

Done for now. More yummies soon.

Area 66
03-06-2012, 02:04 PM
Nice thing you take time to take pics. I like to work with EK, here in Canada we have a guy who import them, a nice guy to work with and actually he look like the twin of Eddy ( owner of EK )

03-06-2012, 02:10 PM
Yeah, you can count me in for that to. Working with EK products is nice! But de delivery of the blocks.... It took forever, waiting for over a month, to get 2 GTX560 Water blocks and the EK Ram X4.

Edit: "I couldn't resist to buy myself some red and black Carbon."

3D Red Carbon

3D Black Carbon

03-07-2012, 02:47 PM
Finally I had some spare time well spend today. The red and black carbon is on it's way. Nice!

But I couldn't resist to get my Dremel and go to work on some plexi.
This time I have put the project name into the plexi and here are the results.

First I used some photoshop for the letter. Then I printed it on an A4 paper. I taped it on to the plexi.

It was really hard to get straight lines, but with some positive Slipknot music on the speakers works fine. I kept my concentration and kept on working.

So the letter are finished. Now I have to "color' them with a diamondhead from Dremel.

After ik was finished with 'coloring' the plexi I cut it out with the Dremel. Unfortunatly I have no saw that could do my work in a straight line. *Note to self*

Tadaa! The bottom needs some work and then it's finished.

And here the picture with the plexi behind the window.

So that was it again.

03-07-2012, 04:41 PM
Nice touch with the dremel, looks great.

Area 66
03-07-2012, 05:42 PM
You have steady hand my friends.....

Stu @ MSD
03-08-2012, 07:18 PM
Absolutely incredible mate, was really proud of my 800D build last night... until about ten mins ago. :cool:

I dont want to make a topic with mine now... doh. :(

03-08-2012, 08:05 PM
very well my friend

03-08-2012, 09:18 PM
You have steady hand my friends.....
Thanks! I'ts hard to keep the Dremel straight. If I push to hard, the head wil eat in the plexi. Not good!

Nice touch with the dremel, looks great.
Thanks mate!

Absolutely incredible mate, was really proud of my 800D build last night... until about ten mins ago. :cool:

I dont want to make a topic with mine now... doh. :(
Every PC is unique in it's own kind. I like the 800D. But for me it was to big. And thanks for the compliment!

very well my friend
Thank you very much! And there is more comming up.

Now I need some free time to disassemble the Obsidian. Modify it a bit and make new Photo's of the assemble.

03-08-2012, 09:26 PM
Very nice the red and black carbon nice touch on the plexi to.:D

Area 66
03-08-2012, 09:35 PM
Thanks! I'ts hard to keep the Dremel straight. If I push to hard, the head wil eat in the plexi. Not good! .

I don’t know how you can't do it, you have a talent for sure, every time I touch a Dremel I scrap something

03-09-2012, 03:34 AM
When you are using dreamel tool instead of sandblast or etching, Is the cut clean or rough on the surface ?
Looking very good there.

03-09-2012, 07:27 AM
The best way to do it is with laser etching, that makes a clean cut into the plexi, with a nice clean surface.

I'm not a machine, so with the Dremel tool it's rough on the surface. So there is a difference in roughness because a human hand can not hold the same pressure and depth on plexi as a laser can do.

So what u get is a little 'white color' difference.

Area 66
03-09-2012, 12:39 PM
I'm not a machine, .

from your avatar you look like the brother of Xeromist

03-09-2012, 01:48 PM
hahaha, lol :)

03-24-2012, 10:01 AM
And another update!

This time it's Carbon time!

The naked 650D.

So i'm cutting up the carbon. There was much measure work to do. Luckly my sister had a cut-set-thingy. Thanks sis!

And here is the first sticky job. The videocard at first.

It was easier then I thought it would be.

To overcome some of the 'obstacles' I needed the haidryer.

So let's go put some on the SLI connector (since ROG has no black option for retail... to bad)

And there it is, the two finished.

Another picture. Now with the EVGA Backplate.

After the videocard was mine D5 water pump next. But what was the formula again? Let's google that ^^

Here you can see that u can not miss an millimeter.

03-24-2012, 10:02 AM
The RAM is almost ready!

And here sideways.

Ofcourse I couldn't left the CPU behind...

And because the BluRay Drive has an ugly gray color on it, I will carboniZ it to.

And here the end result.

So let's clear the back with an scapel.

Hmm. lemme think. What can I do more with Carbon? Maybe the Res?

So what follow's is the HDD Tray's. You really think that's to much carbon? You think? Really? Hahaha, wait till you see the end result.

03-24-2012, 10:13 AM
The second one was faster to do then the first one.

And here the diffrence between the two.

Finally the Red Carbon is next. I will put it on the mobo Tray. It looks like much red. But really it isn't. You'll see.

The Red Carbon is installed! It was no hard job at all. Using my tip.
Tip! Use water and a little bit of soap. Apply it on the case. Then put sticker on and then warm it up with a hairdryer.

And here the last picture from the carbonizing!

The assembly and result are next. Stay tuned.

03-24-2012, 11:31 AM
Very nice ,once your done we can trade LOL :p

03-24-2012, 02:08 PM

Kerel ik dacht dat ik gek was ....... Maar jij hebt t echt nog veel verder doordacht en doorgezet dan ik maar bedacht had .... Petje Af !!

Fantastisch al die details !

Nice Job! All the Details are awesome!

Greetz, groeten


Keep us posted !

03-24-2012, 05:41 PM
wow! what ay combination. BRILLIANT :)

03-24-2012, 06:09 PM
very very good actually you game me an idea to dress my case with carbon fibre also i think it will look awesome my obsidian 800d with some carbon fibre :)

03-24-2012, 08:04 PM
Very nice detail work there :)

Stu @ MSD
03-24-2012, 09:42 PM
Amazing... love your builds man!

03-25-2012, 06:25 PM
So the next day.. Time for the assembly!

First installing the EKwb Clamps for the X250 Reservoir.

Second was the REEVEN. Needed some time to sleeve it with MDPC-X.

Installing the HDD Tray's

Then the XSPC mounting for the 240 RAD from EKWB.

I've also done the Fans with Carbon. Sleeving was no option because of the tiny room that I had to work with.

Big Fan doesn't come on anymore. Here I installed 2x120 Fan from Zalman. They are Red and it fit perfectly.

The D5 Pump was next. Love the BP Modkit.

So and this is my calblemanagement. I'm no hero in this kind of stuff. And it doens't care me much. Want it to fit. That's all.

03-25-2012, 06:28 PM
Next is the motherboard. Love the ROG Gene-Z!

Next up is the RAD120 and the RAD240 from EKWB.

Installing the Reservoir

The PC needs Power so it was time for the Corsair AX850. This one I kept is original. Because of the garantee.

Tubing done.

So another picture of the inside! and....

The Assambly it's done! Af! Finished! FIN

03-25-2012, 06:30 PM






Thanks for watching! I hope you enjoyed it so far.

But it's not done yet... :)

03-25-2012, 07:14 PM
Wow fantastic looking rig:rolleyes:

Loud & Fast
03-25-2012, 07:35 PM
Stylish! Looks great. You promised us another step?:D

03-25-2012, 10:42 PM
Stylish! Looks great. You promised us another step?:D

I think its his window look and may be a little bit mod on the front side
Beside that everything else looking so good
Well done job, congrats ...

03-26-2012, 01:02 PM
Wow fantastic looking rig:rolleyes:
Thanks! Glad the people like it also.

Stylish! Looks great. You promised us another step?:D
Did I?? Yeah I did! :P

I think its his window look and may be a little bit mod on the front side
Beside that everything else looking so good
Well done job, congrats ...

Thanks! I appreciate it!
Good guessing! (and reading!) And yes it's gonna be the Front and Side of the case that needs a modification.

03-26-2012, 10:21 PM
So, as I promised earlier in my thread (BlackBeauty) will share my opinion here.

First of all, have to say that your build looks really nice! All black with that little bit of red... well you found a good combination. Personally, I like better the all black (that's my idea for my build) - those black tygons and fittings are gorgeous! It seems to me that the AX850 does not fit completely in that image. I understand that you would keep it untouched because of the warranty, but what if you would mask it with a plate? Maybe even wrapped with that black Carbon (the masking plate, not the psu)? Just an idea...

Let's get to the cooling part! I am really not convinced with that radiator between the psu and VGA... You said earlier that your temps maxes at 48C after couple hours of playing. Did you really stress-tested that system? Not sure what game are you playing, but I think some benchmarking would make your system warmer...

From the loop you exposed to me (Res-Pump-GPU-GPU-120Rad-Mosfet-Cpu-Mem-Rad240-Rad240-Res) I don't see the max output/cooling. I am also not sure if you are using stock settings or you are overclocking, but in either case I would think your two GPUs are the hottest components in your system. They produce more heat under load then the all other parts together. As I said, a single 120mm radiator is not effective to cool them down. So, you will use slightly heated water (compared to your room temp) to cool your mosfet, then CPU. Perhaps, the mosfet is not getting so hot then in an X58-based system (don't know, never tried your mobo), specially if you don't OC, but even though the CPU is not getting the lowest possible water temps.

The thing with the radiator between the psu and GPUs is that I doubt it has optimal airflow through it. For two reasons: can not suck enough in, and exhausts inside the case - directly on the GPUs. Just take a look on your loop, you are having the hottest temps in your 240s, however, I am not sure which of them is first after the Mem block. Hope, the upper one... So, practically you are heating up your GPUs with air.

Yes, I know that the temp differences between inlets and outlets are minimal - based on my readings about 2-3C in the best cases. But, in your case those 2-3Cs are adding up! I bet you, you would get better temp by simply placing that rad outside... I know, that's not an option - but what if you would play with the tubings? To change your loop.

What about this: Res-Pump-Rad240(bottom)-CPU-Mosfet-Mem-Rad120-GPU-GPU-Rad240(top)-Res?

03-29-2012, 09:04 PM
Now that's what I call feedback.

Thanks that you did take the time to see my build and giving me you honest opinion.
I will take it with me and see what I can change or not.

I don't want to hide the AX850, when the LED is burning and the place is dark. There is no color diffrence anymore. But, maybe I can change my opinion someday.

Thanks to you, i've considered the option that the Videocard is heating up because of the airflow from the radiator. But I have an idea for it. Otherwise, maybe I have to put the Rad in the front... But then I have to much room.. lol at the cosmetic problems.

"What about this: Res-Pump-Rad240(bottom)-CPU-Mosfet-Mem-Rad120-GPU-GPU-Rad240(top)-Res?"
I've also draw it on a paper. But when I do this option. I'm getting to much tubing in the case.. and again it's a cosmetic problem. (Gonna sound like a girl, I know)

I shall put my system to the test and place some results here, with and without Max FAN.
My Englisch is so poor that I don't write the thread full ;) haha. Sorry for that tho.

Have a lot to think about now :)

SO I bought myself the 'Corsair Force Series GT 120GB' SSD. Yumm.

03-29-2012, 10:29 PM
Well, I think we are here to comment on each other's build - no?

As you know, I am in a very similar situation to build my system. It's easy to comment on something you're thinking at anyway :cool: I have the tendency to talk/write in extension, sometimes I forget that actually somebody have to listen/read it... Hope, it's not a problem! (btw, don't worry about your English - it's the 3rd language for me too - everybody can understand it, if not, they will ask)

Yes, I think it is a good idea to for you to post some test about your system. Personally, I am interested in temps, but I'm sure here are others who would be interested about other aspects too.

Those Corsair SSDs are cool! I have two of them, my only problem is that they are red - but that's gonna change, I promise! :D

03-30-2012, 04:23 PM
Ye, we do indeed. - yes!

Monday's I'm having a day off, maybe I will put the system to the test. Let's see what will come out of it. Think hotter then 48C.

Yeah, and I wanted to keep it red. Lol. That was my excuse to buy an GT :)

03-30-2012, 06:38 PM
Just droppin an idea.. maybe I can find a way to shield the Rad and to blow it ouside the case.. see sketch.


03-30-2012, 06:41 PM
Hmmm great almost cant wait till monday for the results;)

03-30-2012, 06:48 PM
Shielding the radiator would certainly help the graphic card temps, but not sure on the efficiency of the radiator itself. It's a pretty small place, airflow would be restricted... With other words, after a certain limit you can completely remove that radiator from between the graphic card and psu, because would not help anyway.

Did you take measurements from the front side of the case? I am thinking behind those two white/clear fans... Would the radiator fit vertically in place of that HDD cage?

03-30-2012, 06:53 PM
Very, very nice...

really good work there bro..:cool:

That tubings are killers..

03-31-2012, 01:48 AM
Mate that Ram sticker of yours is really sexy! Mind sharing it here :D

03-31-2012, 07:05 AM
Awesome rig man!!! :D
Wish I had enough $$$ in order to build my own rig... Still using my insipid Alienware Aurora (*shudder*) circa 2008. :( ;)

03-31-2012, 08:01 AM
wow very nice , great work, looks great, hmm don't know what else to say except enjoy it:)

03-31-2012, 02:38 PM
Hmmm great almost cant wait till monday for the results;)
Yeah cant wait either! So u have to do it for now with an picture of my whole rig.

Did you take measurements from the front side of the case? I am thinking behind those two white/clear fans... Would the radiator fit vertically in place of that HDD cage?
Yeah did the measurements. I'm coming 2cm short. But I have a Dremel that's no problem. Only I have 2 SSD 2HDD in this build. So the room that I got is very slim.

Very, very nice... really good work there bro..:cool:That tubings are killers..
Thanks man! Before the black tubing I had transparant with Red liquid. But I changed the flow allot, so that was to excpensive. So I tried black tubing with Demi water and a coil instead. With succes. It looks great.

Mate that Ram sticker of yours is really sexy! Mind sharing it here :D
I can share.Have some spare ones. Maybe I can make some extra. If u wish? (The stickers are removable, so I don't have to worry, because of the guarantee)

Awesome rig man!!! :D
Wish I had enough $$$ in order to build my own rig... Still using my insipid Alienware Aurora (*shudder*) circa 2008. :( ;)
My tip. Dont get an other Alienware PC. Build from scrath. It took me more then 1 year to get/buy all the parts. Hard time waiting.. I know.

wow very nice , great work, looks great, hmm don't know what else to say except enjoy it:)
Thanks! Enjoy it more when you all do ofc. Yeah, wanted a mid-range PC. And I think I've done it good so far.

And with all that text and quoting. Here's a picture from my whole rig. Enjoy. (sorry for the mid quality, shot with iPhone)

03-31-2012, 05:45 PM
Hmmmm ROG true the whole room LOL:p

04-01-2012, 07:46 PM
Yeah, and even my dad want's a ROG Sticker on his motorcycle. He loves it! Me proud ofc.

Tommorow Test day! :)

04-01-2012, 10:09 PM
Ok its monday already were are the test results LOL:p

Mack 4033
04-01-2012, 10:19 PM

Mack 4033

04-02-2012, 06:20 PM
Hello you all!

It was nice to discover that my build was on the round-up from march. Check it out! See: http://rog.asus.com/97282012/news/march-forum-mods-roundup/

So today was testing day, only i slept a lot. Lolz. So the runtime for prime95 was about 15min. Not enough, but I know. Will do it later with Intel Burn Test.

But let's go to the data and some pictures.

The LOWspeed FAN with Standard Clock:

1 FAN: 900RPM Front
2 FAN: 900RPM Front
3 FAN: 1200RPM Rear120
4 FAN: 1200RPM Top240
5 FAN: 1200RPM Top240
6 FAN: 1200RPM Bottom240

Temp Water Idle: 29.8C
Temp Case Idle: 27.3C

Temp Max: 50C
Temp Average: 47,3C
(AVERAGE, Prime95/3DMark11/Vantage)

Temp 3dmark11: 46,75C
Temp 3dmarkV: 48,00C

Temp Prime95: 47.25C

Temp Water Prime95: 32.1C
Temp Case Prime95: 29.0C

The HIGHspeed FAN with Standard Clock:

1 FAN: 1800RPM Front
2 FAN: 1800RPM Front
3 FAN: 1680RPM Rear120
4 FAN: 1680RPM Top240
5 FAN: 1680RPM Top240
6 FAN: 1800RPM Bottem240

Temp Water Idle: 25.1C
Temp Case Idle: 24.3C

Temp Max: 47C
Temp Average: 43,8C
(AVERAGE, Prime95/3DMark11/Vantage)

Temp 3dmark11: 44,75C
Temp 3dmarkV: 43,00C

Temp Prime95: 43,75C

Temp Water Prime95: 29.1C
Temp Case Prime95: 26.5C

And This was my Test Setup (iPhone Quality Photo):
*Click* (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GrmPPB-yjZk/T3nlzn1rwJI/AAAAAAAACnc/qvzQutk2qFw/s912/1.JPG)
*Click* (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3AMVwTXyx9g/T3nlyOkYu3I/AAAAAAAACnU/kALb1qfNupA/s912/2.JPG)

So the next time I'm going to OC the system. *Click for a earlier result* (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xmTv4U-TY5Q/Tt-geE_AgWI/AAAAAAAACAI/3Vy4y-1s3Sw/s1280/OC041.jpg)

Thanks for reading! Till nextime.

04-02-2012, 07:18 PM
Wow fantastic temps cooling works perfect:cool:

04-02-2012, 07:33 PM
Come on CygnitrOn, prime95 for 15 minutes is not even enough to find out if your system is stable... The real pros are saying to run for at least 24 hours non-stop. I understand that's a lot, but you still could do it for several hours...

So, based on what you posted: your water temp increased 4C (from 25.1 to 29.1) and your case temp increased with 2.2C (from 24.3 to 26.5) in 15 minutes (and just calculated for one the highest fan settings)! My opinion is that you didn't even got a balance in your system...

Although, I don't have to much experience in it, I do not recommend for you to start OC yet! Big guys are saying that if you want a successful OC, you have to start from rock-solid basics. I'm just not sure your starting point is there yet. Maybe, you want to hear first the opinion of more experienced people too (like HiVizMan, Raja, etc.)

04-02-2012, 07:57 PM
Come on CygnitrOn, prime95 for 15 minutes is not even enough to find out if your system is stable... The real pros are saying to run for at least 24 hours non-stop. I understand that's a lot, but you still could do it for several hours...That's what I said. That's not enough.

There is a diffrence between water and air. Water conducts heat approximately 25 times faster than air. And maybe that's why there is a diffrence between these two temperatures. And even then. The water is a closed circuit and the air in the case escapes. So the air is cooler. I measure the temp in the case at the top of it. Where it can hold warm air. But when the diffrence is 2 degrees. I find it a comforting spot to be on.

That's only my opinion. Maybe the experts can tell more. If they wish to respond. Or answer some of this. :) would be great.

04-02-2012, 08:56 PM
Believe me, I am completely aware of the thermodynamics of a water-cooling system!

What I tried to say is that you got a 4C increase in 15 minutes, but this is not meaning that would not go higher. I would expect longer time for a balance to install than 15 minutes. My point is, your temps would go higher if you would let prime95 to run longer (if your water temps go high, soon or later the air temps will follow them too).

What was the room temp? What was the graphic card's temp during 3DMark11?

But yes, let's wait for the big guys! It would be a shame if they would not help you to get the max out of your system after you built it so nicely.

sir serial
04-02-2012, 09:08 PM
Some great modding u did there Neighbour :D

04-02-2012, 09:39 PM
Believe me, I am completely aware of the thermodynamics of a water-cooling system!

What I tried to say is that you got a 4C increase in 15 minutes, but this is not meaning that would not go higher. I would expect longer time for a balance to install than 15 minutes.

What was the room temp? What was the graphic card's temp during 3DMark11?

But yes, let's wait for the big guys! It would be a shame if they would not help you to get the max out of your system after you built it so nicely.
Nice, that u know the background. I know that it was to short and that there was only 1 fase of Prime95. But were gliding into an abyss of discussion that I don't really want to do. You're right. But, leave it till I do a real good run.

The max temp, from the GPU's was Tops 41C on 3Dmark11

Some great modding u did there Neighbour :D
Thanks Neighbour! :D Hope u enjoyed it to.

04-03-2012, 09:39 AM
I am sorry, man, didn't wanted to pass your comfort zone - just got carried away by enthusiasm...
Will wait until you will do a real good run!

04-03-2012, 10:20 AM
It's fine. But I want to wait on the "good run" result. :)


Here a Hi-Res picture with my OC Netbook

04-04-2012, 08:50 PM
Hello RoG enthousiasts! Like me

I've promised a good run for Prime95. And I did it with succes for 6h15m.

Here are the results:

FAN: 1800RPM (Front)
FAN: 1800RPM (Front)
FAN: 1680RPM (Rear120)
FAN: 1680RPM (Top240)
FAN: 1680RPM (Top240)
FAN: 1800RPM (Bottem240)

Temp Max CPU: 43,0C
Temp Average CPU: 41,0C


6h15m Prime95
Start: 16:17 End: 22:32

RoomTemp: 16.3C

Core1: 40C
Core2: 39C
Core3: 43C
Core4: 42C

Water Temp: 22.2C
Inner Case Temp: 20.2C

And here is the screenshot:

04-05-2012, 12:14 PM
16.3C room temp?! I hope you don't have to sleep in that room! :D I wish, I could have that temp here..., with heavy AC usage I barely can reach 20C in my apartment, it's rather 22-24 (the outside temps are going over 30C already - Charleston, SC).

Now I understand your temps. So, you are getting a delta T of 26.7 (temp max cpu minus room temp) at full load with present settings (stock?). I think it's not bad! In your previous runs (the short ones) you perhaps had a higher room temp.

Are you planning to do OC? Would be nice to see how those temps will change... Please, understand that i don't want to push you, I'm just curious.

It would be interesting to know, how the ambient temps are related to the component temps. I know that with water cooling the lowest temps we can reach are the room temps where we are doing the test. But, increasing the room temp will cause a linear increase in component temps? I mean, the delta T is always the same no matter what is the room temp?

04-06-2012, 07:31 AM
Yeah really. Left the window open. And hell no, not sleeping at 16.3C haha. The temparture in the Netherlands is not so high atm.

Yes, the settings was stock but with auto OC @3.7Ghz. You're right, the last run was with higher roomtemp. And the GPU temp will nog go further then 41C-43C, butt I will test it with Furmark.

I've already done an OC with almost 5,1Ghz. But that was not stable. (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xmTv4U-TY5Q/Tt-geE_AgWI/AAAAAAAACoo/r5o43Kb0hWg/s1152/OC041.jpg)But I can see if I get it stable @4,7Ghz perhaps

Good Question, I think it would be the same, that it adds up to the room temp. But maybe I can do a run soon with OC and hopefully the same room Temp. I'm curious to.

04-06-2012, 10:10 AM
May the ROG-Force be with you during OC! :D

04-06-2012, 09:15 PM
May the ROG-Force be with you during OC! :D
Thank you! I needed it :D

And here I got the results of a stable OC @4,7Ghz :cool:

FAN: 1800RPM (Front)
FAN: 1800RPM (Front)
FAN: 1680RPM (Rear120)
FAN: 1680RPM (Top240)
FAN: 1680RPM (Top240)
FAN: 1800RPM (Bottem240)

Temp Min CPU: 22,5C
Temp Max CPU: 58.0C
Temp Average CPU: 54,0C


3h45m Prime95
Start: 19:17 End: 23:00

RoomTemp: 18.4C

Core1: 52C
Core2: 52C
Core3: 58C
Core4: 54C

Water Temp: 24.7C
Inner Case Temp: 22,3C

And here is the screenshot:


And here are the result with an without OC.

i5 2500K @3,7Ghz
RoomTemp: 16.3C
Temp Max CPU: 43,0C
Temp Average CPU: 41,0C
Water Temp: 22.2C
Inner Case Temp: 20.2C

i5 2500k @4,7Ghz
RoomTemp: 18.4C
Temp Max CPU: 58.0C
Temp Average CPU: 54,0C
Water Temp: 24.7C
Inner Case Temp: 22,3C

04-06-2012, 09:23 PM
Nice results looks like its running good with those settings.:cool:

04-07-2012, 08:03 AM
Haha thanks! It runs stable! That's really nice.

What is also nice is the diffrence between 1Ghz en the Room/Case temps :eek:

Results Up 1 Ghz:
Room temp diff +2.1C
Temp Max CPU diff +15C
Temp avg diff +13C
Water temp diff +2.5C
Inner Case Temp diff +2.1C

I can see that the Innercase temp is consistant with the room temp.
Room temp goes up for 2.1C and also the case temp with exactly 2.1C.


05-10-2012, 02:49 PM
Cygnitr0n can you post how you made your stickers?

05-26-2012, 04:35 AM
Nice Build man!