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i4eneco
04-09-2021, 09:56 AM
Hey ROG-forum members,
my 6 year old Asus Maximus VIII Hero with i7-6700k Processor and a Samsung 950 Pro boots twice as fast as my new build consisting of the following parts:

Motherboard: Asus Maximus XIII Hero (latest non-beta-bios: 0605 installed, default settings, no overclocking)
Processor: Intel i7-11700k
RAM: 4*8GB Corsair RGB Pro SL 3600Mhz
.m2_1: Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (PCIE 4.0 SSD)
.m2_3: Samsung 970 Evo Plus (PCIE 3.0 SSD)
.m2_4: Samsung 970 Evo Plus (PCIE 3.0 SSD)
GPU: Amd Radeon 6900 XT

I have already read about this here where people are also experiencing the same issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/lmzh9v/new_motherboard_asus_rog_maximus_xiii_hero_z590/

Is there any solution? Problem with chipset? Problem with PCIE4 drivers? Problem with Samsung 980 Pro? Anyone experiencing the same issue?
kind regards

Mutaz2019
04-09-2021, 11:50 AM
Hi;
I have ROG Z590-F WIFI and I7 11700K
I don't have any problems
make this maybe help you (in Bios):

Ai Overclock Tuner : XMP I

Asus Armoury Crate : Disable
https://rog.asus.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=83917&d=1580168219&thumb=1

Launch CSM : Disable

OS type : secure boot : windows UEFI Mode >> Standard
https://rog.asus.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=56761&d=1460127686&thumb=1

Don't forget make save change and reset

i4eneco
04-09-2021, 12:37 PM
I haven't thought about Armoury Crate yet, but I've read that it can slow down the pc. I will try to reinstall Windows without it and tell if this makes a difference. Should I use Aura Sync for RGB Sync instead of Armoury Crate?

Zardoc
04-09-2021, 02:24 PM
Hi,

I have the WiFi A version and my slower boot issues are with the sound driver not loading for almost ten seconds on boot.

Try this, remove sound driver with DDU then remove all Realtek and volute drivers form the store using the Driver store Explorer HERE (https://github.com/lostindark/DriverStoreExplorer/releases/download/v0.11.64/DriverStoreExplorer.v0.11.64.zip). Reboot. You should see USB 2.0 as sound. Time your boot and post results.

I submitted a ticket to Asus. They are investigating.

i4eneco
04-09-2021, 02:39 PM
Hi,

I have the WiFi A version and my slower boot issues are with the sound driver not loading for almost ten seconds on boot.

Try this, remove sound driver with DDU then remove all Realtek and volute drivers form the store using the Driver store Explorer HERE (https://github.com/lostindark/DriverStoreExplorer/releases/download/v0.11.64/DriverStoreExplorer.v0.11.64.zip). Reboot. You should see USB 2.0 as sound. Time your boot and post results.

I submitted a ticket to Asus. They are investigating.

Another excellent hint, it feels like something is wrong with the currently available drivers. Imho not a good start for the platform: 2021/03/30 just a beta bios available and a lot of "beta" drivers and buggy firmwares/microcodes around, hopefully it will get better soon

Saltgrass
04-09-2021, 03:28 PM
What driver are you showing for the Samsung 980?

Legolas
04-09-2021, 06:04 PM
There is difference in Z590 and Z170 platform (circuit, controller and processor) so there is some impact of performance of boot up. You might want to install latest chipset from Intel if you are using Asus chipset driver and see the difference. You can also try to see if there is firmware for Samsung.

Silent Scone@ROG
04-09-2021, 07:48 PM
Different boards, especially given the generation jump you've taken, have a variety of different controllers which can add time to the POST and OS hand off procedure. If these things are an issue one can always make use of S3 resume sleep states. Memory training can also have an impact depending on the DRAM settings.

Zardoc
04-12-2021, 03:06 AM
What driver are you showing for the Samsung 980?

Samsung 980 has no driver. You have to use MS default driver.

Saltgrass
04-12-2021, 12:31 PM
Samsung 980 has no driver. You have to use MS default driver.

Thanks, but the question was for the OP, who has not responded. I am aware, which is why I asked the question...

Just a note, I am getting full PCIe 4 advertised speeds using a 11th Gen processor and the Win 10 driver. A Samsung NVMe driver will bluescreen or perhaps cause other problems, with the 980..

i4eneco
04-13-2021, 09:07 AM
sorry guys, I haven't answered yet, because I am busy right now, I will respond when I know more what's causing the startup delay. I think it's the realtek sound driver. By the way I am using the standard 980 Pro Win10 driver since so far there is no Samsung PCIE4 NVME driver (at least what I know)

Saltgrass
04-13-2021, 02:49 PM
If you look at the Task Manager, startup tab, it will show a Bios Start time. Mine is currently 8.2 seconds.

Below that it might identify if some startup utilities are High impact and might be involved.

Otherwise, is the delay prior to starting Windows or after Windows has taken over.. You might also create a boot log using msconfig.exe to see if some driver is having a problem.

The other option is disabling some startup services, using msconfig. Just don't disable any Microsoft ones..

radioguy728
04-19-2021, 10:20 PM
Hello i4enco, Did you flash the bios to latest version dated 03/29/21 ?
This worked for me

i4eneco
04-20-2021, 08:59 AM
Hi everyone, I've resolved the issue:
Bios Settings: I used Bios 0605, set Asus MCE to all Cores, enabled Dual TAU, set XMP to 3600mhz, Gear 1 (1:1), 100:133, manually set voltage to: vccio/sa to 1.2 (vccio was 1.4 with auto, sa at 1.56 auto, way too high), enabled all onboard devices, disabled MyAsus and ArmoryCrate
Windows: completely new setup using the latest available drivers (mostly not using the Asus ones, but the ones posted by another member of this forum here). I use the latest AuraSync Software, iCue and Jacknet RGB Sync for RGB control and nothing else (forget about Armoury....)
Now everything is working stable and fast as expected, thx for all the feedback!

mijingakure
04-21-2021, 10:59 PM
Hi everyone, I've resolved the issue:
Bios Settings: I used Bios 0605, set Asus MCE to all Cores, enabled Dual TAU, set XMP to 3600mhz, Gear 1 (1:1), 100:133, manually set voltage to: vccio/sa to 1.2 (vccio was 1.4 with auto, sa at 1.56 auto, way too high), enabled all onboard devices, disabled MyAsus and ArmoryCrate
Windows: completely new setup using the latest available drivers (mostly not using the Asus ones, but the ones posted by another member of this forum here). I use the latest AuraSync Software, iCue and Jacknet RGB Sync for RGB control and nothing else (forget about Armoury....)
Now everything is working stable and fast as expected, thx for all the feedback!

Edited, I just updated to Bios 0605 from stock 0232, Motherboard is XIII Hero, and my boot time is hella fast now (it was slow as fxxk with 0232), now its as fast as my previous Z390, and I didn't tweak any Bios setting like you did, just Armory Crate is Enabled, Audio Device disabled since I have my own Sound Card, Blue Tooth, Wi-fi Disabled since I don't use them, didn't tweak anything else. running 1 M.2 SSD in M.2_3 slot, 2 SATA HDD in SATA.1 and SATA.2 slots.

3dw4rdTm
04-24-2021, 06:19 PM
Thanks a lot!

Mappi75
05-01-2021, 09:11 AM
Be sure that you installed the lates Firmware for 980pro this will fix nvme slowdowns to 1000MB/s.