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sl910
04-28-2021, 12:34 PM
A new BIOS has been released for the Maximus 13 Hero:

Version: 0707, 2021 april 28

Link: https://rog.asus.com/fr/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-xiii-hero-model/helpdesk_bios

Release notes: The latest UEFI BIOS updates enable Intel ABT for 11th Gen Intel Core i9-11900K and i9-11900KF processors

Regards

sl91

EncodeGR
04-28-2021, 01:02 PM
A new BIOS has been released for the Maximus 13 Hero:

Version: 0707, 2021 april 28

Link: https://rog.asus.com/fr/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-xiii-hero-model/helpdesk_bios

Release notes: The latest UEFI BIOS updates enable Intel ABT for 11th Gen Intel Core i9-11900K and i9-11900KF processors

Regards

sl91

Uhm, i don't see any new Bios. Did refresh a couple of times, cleared cache as well.
Latest Bios for me is the 0704 (Beta).

** UPDATE: Never mind, it just showed up. Very poor release logs / noted though... People need to know what is fixed, and what is not.
And that's because older bios versions had a lot of issues.

Saltgrass
04-28-2021, 03:20 PM
My download site does not yet show it either. Of course, mine is in the US, not where the link goes.. ;)

I have had some situations with my board Blue Screening and freezing during game play and benchmarking. I have changed the XMP settings but since I am already seeing some problems, I wonder if ABT (Adaptive Boost Technology) would aggravate the situation.

Edit: Oh, sorry. I already have the 704 version on the US site which enables ABT and it was released on 3/30/2021. I wonder if it is already involved with certain situations..

sl910
04-28-2021, 05:04 PM
My download site does not yet show it either. Of course, mine is in the US, not where the link goes.. ;)

I have had some situations with my board Blue Screening and freezing during game play and benchmarking. I have changed the XMP settings but since I am already seeing some problems, I wonder if ABT (Adaptive Boost Technology) would aggravate the situation.

Edit: Oh, sorry. I already have the 704 version on the US site which enables ABT and it was released on 3/30/2021. I wonder if it is already involved with certain situations..

Hi,

Have you tried to switch off HT in the Bios and observe the behaviour for a few days, everything else unchanged of course.

In my case (M13H+11900K+RTX3090+64GB 3200):

-HT on , ABT on or off: many Bsod clock.watchdog.timeout, really frustrating
-HT off, ABT on: everything works smoothly



sl91

timetoy
04-28-2021, 07:52 PM
This BIOS seems to fix the "balanced power mode not turboing after idle" issue reported on another thread.

mahanddeem
04-29-2021, 08:26 AM
I have Z590 Prime and 0707 fixed the issue of not running at my oC sync all cores to 51 ratio. I have 10900KF

Saltgrass
04-29-2021, 12:45 PM
Hi,

Have you tried to switch off HT in the Bios and observe the behaviour for a few days, everything else unchanged of course.

sl91

It appears it is already disabled, I had not looked in the Bios to check.. Thanks for letting me know..

Shamino
04-29-2021, 05:53 PM
Hi,

Have you tried to switch off HT in the Bios and observe the behaviour for a few days, everything else unchanged of course.

In my case (M13H+11900K+RTX3090+64GB 3200):

-HT on , ABT on or off: many Bsod clock.watchdog.timeout, really frustrating
-HT off, ABT on: everything works smoothly



sl91

even on 0707?

sl910
04-29-2021, 08:15 PM
In my case, not tested with this new BIOS. I will give it a try, i.e. HT enabled

Regards

sl91

sl910
05-01-2021, 07:20 AM
In my case, not tested with this new BIOS. I will give it a try, i.e. HT enabled

Regards

sl91

Same behaviour with Bios 0707:
-HT OFF, no BSOD
-HT ON, BSOD's

Regards

loinad
05-29-2021, 04:20 PM
SVID Behavior needs to be set to "Intel's Failsafe". ASUS defaults are too aggressive and result in BSODs (both in my 11700K and 11900K + ADT). Doing that, ADT works fine regarding stability; but about performance, I'd like to kindly ask @shamino about how does ADT relate to the MCE and CPU Core Ratio settings. (It seems that CPU Core Ratio overrides ADT behavior, for instance.)

74lobster
05-30-2021, 09:54 AM
Here are the updated official and beta bios for Asus Rog Maximus XIII Hero motherboard and the links to download them.

ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO 0707 OFFICIAL BIOS (https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-MAXIMUS-XIII-HERO-ASUS-0707.ZIP)

ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO 0902 BETA BIOS (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZucQ6YE7JSUikLtxonbgpCraf096xfFg/view?usp=sharing)

Bye.

sl910
06-03-2021, 05:17 PM
Here are the updated official and beta bios for Asus Rog Maximus XIII Hero motherboard and the links to download them.

ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO 0707 OFFICIAL BIOS (https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-MAXIMUS-XIII-HERO-ASUS-0707.ZIP)

ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO 0902 BETA BIOS (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZucQ6YE7JSUikLtxonbgpCraf096xfFg/view?usp=sharing)

Bye.

Hi,

Well, after some time consuming investigations, it seems that the issue that produces clock.watchdog.timeout freeze is due to the SVID Behavior setting versus hyperthreading one, as follows:

1. HT: ON and SVID behavior: Intel's Fail Safe. The sytem is stable, no freeze
2. HT: ON and SVID behavior: auto. The sytem is NOT stable, freeze even under very light load
3. HT: OFF and SVID behavior: auto. The sytem is stable, no freeze
4. HT: OFF and SVID behavior: Intel's Fail Safe . The sytem is stable, no freeze

My conclusion:
With Bios's until and including 0707, HT can NOT work with SVID behavior: auto
If one want to use HT it must set the SVID Behavior to Intel's Fail Safe

In my case, ABT was set to OFF. My feeling is that this setting does not affect the issue in any way

Regards

sl91

Falkentyne
06-04-2021, 08:33 PM
Hi,

Well, after some time consuming investigations, it seems that the issue that produces clock.watchdog.timeout freeze is due to the SVID Behavior setting versus hyperthreading one, as follows:

1. HT: ON and SVID behavior: Intel's Fail Safe. The sytem is stable, no freeze
2. HT: ON and SVID behavior: auto. The sytem is NOT stable, freeze even under very light load
3. HT: OFF and SVID behavior: auto. The sytem is stable, no freeze
4. HT: OFF and SVID behavior: Intel's Fail Safe . The sytem is stable, no freeze

My conclusion:
With Bios's until and including 0707, HT can NOT work with SVID behavior: auto
If one want to use HT it must set the SVID Behavior to Intel's Fail Safe

In my case, ABT was set to OFF. My feeling is that this setting does not affect the issue in any way

Regards

sl91

SVID Behavior: Auto usually sets AC/DC Loadline to 0.01 mOhms, which is the same setting as "best case scenario"
However the 'Auto' setting's values can be changed by other values in the BIOS (which is the entire point of an "Auto" setting).
0.01 mOhms for ACLL is very aggressive so it's possible your chip simply can't handle it.

You can try setting it to 'Typical', which should be about 0.6 mOhms.
Intel's fail safe is 1.1 mOhms, which is the highest value per spec for that CPU.

Hyperthreading disabled requires a lot less voltage, thus 0.01 mOhms for AC/DC Loadline may work for you.

sl910
06-05-2021, 01:29 PM
Thank you for this clarification. My goal is only to built a stable computer using premium hardware with no overclocking hope in mind. Using the Intel's safe setting, the computer works wery well. However, I have observed a new thing. I use Aida64 in order to perform some stress test. When I perform the FPU stress test, selecting AVX and AVX512 options, now Aida stress test stops almost immediatly after starting with a message stating that a hardware failure event occured. In the meanwhile, the computer don't freeze and runs normally. If I change again the Bios setting SVID Behaviour to auto, the FPU Aida64 test works again. Any Idea of what does this mean ? This new issue occurs having the HT ON or OFF.

Best regards

sl91

Falkentyne
06-05-2021, 07:42 PM
Thank you for this clarification. My goal is only to built a stable computer using premium hardware with no overclocking hope in mind. Using the Intel's safe setting, the computer works wery well. However, I have observed a new thing. I use Aida64 in order to perform some stress test. When I perform the FPU stress test, selecting AVX and AVX512 options, now Aida stress test stops almost immediatly after starting with a message stating that a hardware failure event occured. In the meanwhile, the computer don't freeze and runs normally. If I change again the Bios setting SVID Behaviour to auto, the FPU Aida64 test works again. Any Idea of what does this mean ? This new issue occurs having the HT ON or OFF.

Best regards

sl91

You just said that the system is unstable with SVID Behavior: Auto in an above post.
But now you said that AIDA64 stress FPU is stable with SVID Behavior: Auto.
This seems like a contradiction. Unless what's happening is the light load vcore is too low but the heavy load vcore is fine. I don't know.

What loadline calibration are you using? Maybe try increasing LLC to Level 4. You can also try using the V/F offset curves and increase the V/F offset voltages for the lower points on the V/F curve graph by about +50mv each.

sl910
06-06-2021, 07:08 PM
Hi,

Just to need to understand something. SVID gives the zero load tension table. Isn't it ? If it is, I don't understand why this setting leads to a resistance (0.01 to 1.1mohms). In my mind, the resistance value should be related to the loading line calibration (LLC), i.e the ration betwenn the difference of two tension (zero load-full load) by the max outpout current.

Best regards

sl91

Bluerain
06-06-2021, 08:02 PM
I have the same problem with my 11900k. CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT when doing random things and no combination of settings I've tried seems to fix it. I've ran out of ideas (except doing an RMA?).

sl910
06-07-2021, 05:35 PM
I have the same problem with my 11900k. CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT when doing random things and no combination of settings I've tried seems to fix it. I've ran out of ideas (except doing an RMA?).

Did you try to switch off HT in the BIOS settings and give it a try for one or two days ?

Regards

sl91