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gilbert
04-05-2012, 11:05 PM
i have a g74sx-bbk8, and this were my steps to fix my long boot up black screen , first of all get the drivers from asus , i have intel centrino ultimate n 6300 CARD and i use _v15.0.1.1 from asus website ( http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=G74Sx&p=3&s=336), MAKE SURE TO INSTALL ALL OF THE DRIVERS IN SAFE MODE EXCEPT CHIPSET , INSTALL CHIPSET IN CMD MODE. test your boot up time after you install all of the drivers and after you install 3rd party apps that may cause black long boot again. in my case ccleaner was causing the long boot up so i had to uninstall it , this is the order i flash my drivers . hopefully i can help someone out there .

1.- set up bios.

2.- RUN WINDOWS 7 INSTALL .

3.- CHIPSET _9.3.0.1019

4.- IRST (INTEL RAPID STORAGE TECHNOLOGY)_ V10.1.0.1008

5.- VGA _ V8.17.12.6837

6.- FRESCO USB 3.0_ V3.5.30

7.- REALTEK HD AUDIO _V6.0.1.6564

8.- TOUCH PAD _ V9.1.3.5 I HAVE SENTELIC

9.- REALTEK LAN _7.44.421.2011

10.- REALTEK CARD READER_ V6.1.7600.10001

11.- WLAN I HAVE INTEL SO _V15.0.1.1

12._ ATK PACKAGE _ V1.0.0015

dstrakele
04-05-2012, 11:12 PM
You're creating a thread to report an issue that is resolved? Man! You are in the wrong forum! ;>{)>

+1 @gilbert! Seriously, I enjoy seeing these because they DO help other people and can be referenced as solutions in other threads...

I would've never suspected CCleaner of causing this issue just by running (unless it automatically cleans the registry in the background....).

I must admit that though I've recommended CCleaner to resolve issues where driver remnants may be causing problems, I've never used it myself. Windows System Restore has always helped resolve any serious issues I've encountered - which have been few....but I've got an ASUS laptop now!!! da - da- da - chhh!!! Thank you! Thank you! I'll be here all week..... :sound of crickets chirping

gilbert
04-06-2012, 12:34 AM
You're creating a thread to report an issue that is resolved? Man! You are in the wrong forum! ;>{)>

+1 @gilbert! Seriously, I enjoy seeing these because they DO help other people and can be referenced as solutions in other threads...

I would've never suspected CCleaner of causing this issue just by running (unless it automatically cleans the registry in the background....).

I must admit that though I've recommended CCleaner to resolve issues where driver remnants may be causing problems, I've never used it myself. Windows System Restore has always helped resolve any serious issues I've encountered - which have been few....but I've got an ASUS laptop now!!! da - da- da - chhh!!! Thank you! Thank you! I'll be here all week..... :sound of crickets chirping
No im creating a thread to share my findings , i thought i could help someone else by sharing how i was able to easily find what was causing the issue .

but seriously mod please delete if thread is not necessary .

dstrakele
04-06-2012, 12:43 AM
No im creating a thread to share my findings , i thought i could help someone else by sharing how i was able to easily find what was causing the issue ...

I realize that, @gilbert. I was just kidding in the first sentence... you did good.

I guess I won't be quittin' my day job....

PILGRIM
04-06-2012, 02:41 AM
...in my case ccleaner was causing the long boot up so i had to uninstall it...

Also glad you finally solved the problem.

I'm also using CCleaner, so I'm curious and concerned on how it caused your computer's long boot.
My understanding of CCleaner is that it is non-intrusive and has to be manually used.
Could you elaborate more on your findings on why you found it to be the culprit?..

BrodyBoy
04-06-2012, 02:42 AM
Just curious....

If you now believe a 3rd party app (CCleaner) was the cause of your issue, why the recommendation about driver sourcing ("get them from Asus") and the all-cap insistence on installing in safe mode?

Neither the driver sources nor installation method had any role in the problem you were having (further confirmed by the many other owners who have no issues due to driver source or install method), so it seems the solution for this specific problem is: DON'T ALLOW CCLEANER TO RUN AT START-UP. No?

gilbert
04-06-2012, 04:44 AM
Also glad you finally solved the problem.

I'm also using CCleaner, so I'm curious and concerned on how it caused your computer's long boot.
My understanding of CCleaner is that it is non-intrusive and has to be manually used.
Could you elaborate more on your findings on why you found it to be the culprit?..

well i been using my lapy without the issue since yesterday , and i have no idea why ccleaner is causing the long boot up, all i know is that as soon as i install it it causes the problem and as soon as i uninstall it the issue goes away, i dont even have to use it just by installing it .so i decided to not use it and i boot up in 19 seconds every time ..

gilbert
04-06-2012, 04:49 AM
Just curious....

If you now believe a 3rd party app (CCleaner) was the cause of your issue, why the recommendation about driver sourcing ("get them from Asus") and the all-cap insistence on installing in safe mode?

Neither the driver sources nor installation method had any role in the problem you were having (further confirmed by the many other owners who have no issues due to driver source or install method), so it seems the solution for this specific problem is: DON'T ALLOW CCLEANER TO RUN AT START-UP. No?
the reason why, is because that is the way it worked for me, when i was using other drivers i was getting the issue , maybe you are right maybe it would work any other way but this way it gave me great results every time and that's why i recommend it , i have already tried installing ccleaner and not have it run at start up and still get the same issue , so for me the only solution was to uninstall it completely.

PILGRIM
04-06-2012, 05:37 AM
well i been using my lapy without the issue since yesterday , and i have no idea why ccleaner is causing the long boot up, all i know is that as soon as i install it it causes the problem and as soon as i uninstall it the issue goes away, i dont even have to use it just by installing it .so i decided to not use it and i boot up in 19 seconds every time ..

I've tried to replicate your CCleaner issue. I let it to run at start up. Also let it to auto-update.
The G74 still boots up as fast as it was before. Verdict: it's still a helpful program (at least for me). :)

gilbert
04-06-2012, 05:48 AM
I've tried to replicate your CCleaner issue. I let it to run at start up. Also let it to auto-update.
The G74 still boots up as fast as it was before. Verdict: it's still a helpful program (at least for me). :)

i don't know what to tell you , in my case it keeps giving me the problem, I just tried it again after installing the latest vga driver 296.10 with same results..........it is a helpful program but in my case i can install it use it and then uninstall it to prevent long boot ups....

PILGRIM
04-06-2012, 07:14 AM
i don't know what to tell you , in my case it keeps giving me the problem, I just tried it again after installing the latest vga driver 296.10 with same results..........it is a helpful program but in my case i can install it use it and then uninstall it to prevent long boot ups....

Well, what's more important is that you found what's causing your troubles and eliminated it.:)
For some reasons, even a seemingly good program (i.e. CCleaner) can make problems.
Better be done away with it, in this case.

dstrakele
04-06-2012, 02:17 PM
It's possible that CCleaner is conflicting with some driver installed on @gilbert's system that is not installed on @PILGRIM's system. Computers can be complex beasts...

PILGRIM
04-06-2012, 02:28 PM
It's possible that CCleaner is conflicting with some driver installed on @gilbert's system that is not installed on @PILGRIM's system. Computers can be complex beasts...

Yeah, that could be the only logical explanation to it..

And this issue may support the argument for installing just the essential programs,
and to avoid as much as possible, conflicting or overlapping programs.

gilbert
04-06-2012, 04:09 PM
Yeah, that could be the only logical explanation to it..

And this issue may support the argument for installing just the essential programs,
and to avoid as much as possible, conflicting or overlapping programs.

it could also be the version of the drivers we are using the other program im using besides whta is already listed is power4gear, are you using the latest drivers for everything PILGRIM ?

BrodyBoy
04-06-2012, 05:52 PM
And this issue may support the argument for installing just the essential programs,
and to avoid as much as possible, conflicting or overlapping programs.
Bingo.....not only are a bunch of other utilities usually redundant and unnecessary, but they can vastly complicate troubleshooting even simple-seeming issues.


....the other program im using besides whta is already listed is power4gear....
I used to just recommend uninstalling that program as an unnecessary utility that can cause problems. Now I think it's just bad software, and should be avoided.

@gilbert: I understand that this issue (and troubleshooting it) has been a major headache for you, what with all the re-installs and so on. You kept focusing on drivers as the source of this problem. But dozens/scores of owners use the same drivers on these machines, so if one of the essential drivers caused a serious startup-delay issue, there'd be a lot of discussion about it around here, and a huge red warning flag about that particular driver. (Like the way the early stock Atheros WLAN driver caused DPC latencies....that was spotted fairly quickly.)

You only mentioned recently that you apparently install CCleaner and P4G early in your setup, too. When you're trying to resolve these kinds of issues, it's critical to start with a truly clean setup, to not run extraneous programs like that. If you add these sorts of things very slowly after you establish a stable barebones installation, it's much, much easier to identify the one(s) that cause unwanted behavior. (It's also very important, when troubleshooting on the forum, to report all the extra software that's running on our machine. You could re-install a VGA driver, for example, 'til the cows come home, but if it's something like P4G causing weird display behavior, no nVidia driver or installation method is going help. When all the info is available, there's always a chance that some experienced owner here can help you spot the problem quickly.)

PILGRIM
04-06-2012, 06:19 PM
it could also be the version of the drivers we are using the other program im using besides whta is already listed is power4gear, are you using the latest drivers for everything PILGRIM ?

That's also a valid point.

Being around in these forums, I've learned a simple rule for my computer usage.
As a general rule, I tend to be cautious with any "latest" drivers.
I don't normally install/update the just released drivers right away, certified or not.
(To paraphrase Brody: "The latest isn't always the best.")

I often wait for a particular newer driver to "simmer down" a bit, then use it.
(Translation: I let others do the testing first. :p)
Then if I were to install, I would make sure I made a restore point and would do
the trial-and-error method. If it worked, nice. If it didn't, rollback or restore.

To answer your question, I'm using the following, to name some:

1) Drivers: Touch Pad (Sentelic) 9.1.7.7 / ATK Package 1.0.0014 / nVidia 296.10 /
Realtek HD Audio 6.0.1.6602 / Realtek USB 2.0 Reader 6.1.7600.10001

2) Peripherals: Power4Gear Hybrid 1.1.43 / USB Charger Plus 2.0.0 / CCleaner 3.16

gilbert
04-06-2012, 08:46 PM
ok guys i just did 2 more clean installs with new drivers and all of them with same results, this time i did not use safe mode to install drivers , what i found out is that in my case the newest nvidia drivers don't get along with the card reader driver 10001. and the oldest drivers do , but none of the two vga drivers get along with ccleaner , when i was using the new vga drivers without the realtek card reader i was booting up in 20s but when i install the card reader driver i was getting a 3minute boot up, same thing with ccleaner , and as soon as i uninstall them my boot up time was 20s , with the oldest drivers and card reader drivers no problem 20s boot up time but with ccleaner i was getting long boot up times , i tried to find another card reader driver to use the new vga drivers but could not find any ,


in other words in my case everything i need works with old vga drivers, V8.17.12.6837
im going to try one more time with the new drivers and old vga driver, and then i would try to install new ones on top of old ones and see if that works.