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Physalist
04-18-2012, 11:54 AM
All right so I need to update my bio's and I currently dont have a flash drive. I do have a mp3 player that I tried using as a makeshift flash drive, but that didnt work since it never showed up. The only way I got the driver t show up on the easy flash menu was if I put it on one of the other hard drives. So, is there any other way to update the bios without a flash drive? Btw, I have the GS74sx.

StefanLundmark
04-18-2012, 12:04 PM
Wow, are you seriously going to brick your $1500 (or whatever) worth of laptop by doing that? You know, it's not trivial to restore a broken BIOS and if you really have no clue (no offence, but using your MP3-player to maintain your Mainboards' BIOS goes as "no clue") you shouldn't attempt it.

You can use an internal HDD, or external - but it can't be NTFS formatted. Googling confirms it, here's one example:
http://consumerist.com/2011/11/asus-blames-you-when-bios-update-bricks-your-computer.html

Why can't you buy an inexpensive $8 USB flash drive?

Physalist
04-18-2012, 12:10 PM
Because I dont have the cash for it atm. Youre comin off a little strong there too man...

dataDave
04-18-2012, 12:15 PM
Please don't try to Flash from anything other than a FAT32 formatted USB stick.

Just be patient until you raise the funds to buy one, or try to borrow a stick from someone. It's really not worth bricking your laptop over.

Physalist
04-18-2012, 12:22 PM
Thats what I was planning to do. I just wanted to see if there was a different way. Thanks.

Etnies22
04-18-2012, 12:28 PM
Hmm... I think you can easily update your bios with Asus LiveUpdate...? I think i update it with that app...but for sure i was updating bios in windows...

http://rog.asus.com/notebook/17-inch/g74sx/ ( Download -> Utilities -> ASUS Live Update Utility Version V3.1.2

PILGRIM
04-18-2012, 01:26 PM
Hmm... I think you can easily update your bios with Asus LiveUpdate...? I think i update it with that app...but for sure i was updating bios in windows...

http://rog.asus.com/notebook/17-inch/g74sx/ ( Download -> Utilities -> ASUS Live Update Utility Version V3.1.2

Lucky you. It's been repeated time and again in this Forum that the much safer way to update BIOS
is through Easy Flash with a FAT 32 formatted external drive.

Doing it through an NTFS formatted drive or in Windows OS is just inviting disaster.
Don't understand why ASUS still encourages its consumers to do this via its Live Update.

Physalist
04-18-2012, 02:14 PM
I tried updating with the Live updater. It wouldn't let me because of some issue with the rom version not being right or something. I guess its better I didnt from what I've seen on this forum.

PILGRIM
04-18-2012, 02:24 PM
I tried updating with the Live updater. It wouldn't let me because of some issue with the rom version not being right or something. I guess its better I didnt from what I've seen on this forum.

Updating BIOS in Windows OS or an NTFS formatted drive is too risky!..

When did you buy your G74? It might already have the BIOS 203 version
if you just bought it recently. To check, type "System Information" in search programs and files
to verify. BIOS version is somewhere in the middle (BIOS Version/Date...)

Physalist
04-18-2012, 04:07 PM
I bought it last year and I've checked it its 101

PILGRIM
04-18-2012, 05:04 PM
I bought it last year and I've checked it its 101

As far as I know, G74 BIOS's are 201, 202, and 203.

Assuming you want the latest BIOS update (203), see this thread and download Brody's
PDF file: http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?11080-BrodyBoy-simple-but-effective-.pdf-guide.-on-quot-Updating-The-G74SX-BIOS-with-EazyFlash-quot

Etnies22
04-18-2012, 05:41 PM
I updated bios in windows at least 10 times at NTFS partition, without single problem....included other brand laptops also older laptops... :D
I didn't DOS bios flash utitlites for about 3-4 years...

BrodyBoy
04-18-2012, 06:10 PM
I updated bios in windows at least 10 times at NTFS partition, without single problem....included other brand laptops also older laptops... :D
I didn't DOS bios flash utitlites for about 3-4 years...
Regardless what your personal experience is with other computers, it is well-established that updating the BIOS through Windows, or using an NTFS drive, greatly increases the risk of flashing failure in Asus' G-series models. And because there is no backup BIOS and the Aptio Emergency flash procedure does not work in these models, it's just not worth the risk.

Yes, people have successfully flashed with WinFlash. But given the heightened risks, it's simply not a good choice for these models.

fostert
04-19-2012, 02:13 AM
I updated bios in windows at least 10 times at NTFS partition, without single problem....included other brand laptops also older laptops... :D
I didn't DOS bios flash utitlites for about 3-4 years...
Lets be sure we know what were talking about here...bricking. I.e.the G74 will not boot at all, because its basic roadmap of all its hardware is gone. There is no dual CMOS chips to save you, no backup BIOS on the mainboard to take over...the only way to fix it (unless you're handy with a soldering iron) is to ship your notebook to ASUS for a rewrite. At least a 2 week round trip. They may even repartition and restore your HDD on you to a factory install (even if you ask them not to) and then you've got a reinstall on your hands when you get the machine back.

Remember, the BIOS is supposed to tell the OS what to do with itself...not the other way around!