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NotSneaky
04-30-2012, 05:26 PM
Anyone tell the differences between the asus ds series vs newegg asus g75 ns series?
http://promos.asus.com/US/2012GSeries/index.htm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230409

fuzon1337
04-30-2012, 05:36 PM
The first thing I could see is that the processor is different from promos.asus you get i7 3610QM and newegg you get i7 3720

EDIT: which model of G75 DS are you looking at?

NotSneaky
04-30-2012, 05:46 PM
The first thing I could see is that the processor is different from promos.asus you get i7 3610QM and newegg you get i7 3720

EDIT: which model of G75 DS are you looking at?

Yea thats the first thing I notice too. just making sure there wasnt any other difference. I am looking for the ds72but ns has the cpu
what do you suggest?

fuzon1337
04-30-2012, 06:01 PM
I will say this is up to you about how much you want to spend on a notebook... Are you willing to gain the little extra performance in Ivy Bridge from newegg or do you want to spare some money with buying a cheaper one....

Link to compare the processors... http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/659767-i7-3612qm-vs-i7-3720qm.html hope they can answer some questions for you :)

EDIT: perhaps not the best comparison since the processor is 3612 and not 3610

http://img.gfx.no/1022/1022527/Intel_6.jpg i7 3720QM Base Freq 2.60, and when needed 3.60 (if I'm reading this right)

http://img.gfx.no/1022/1022528/Intel_7.jpg i7 3610QM Base Freq 2.30, and when needed 3.30

NotSneaky
04-30-2012, 08:18 PM
I will say this is up to you about how much you want to spend on a notebook... Are you willing to gain the little extra performance in Ivy Bridge from newegg or do you want to spare some money with buying a cheaper one....

Link to compare the processors... http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/659767-i7-3612qm-vs-i7-3720qm.html hope they can answer some questions for you :)

EDIT: perhaps not the best comparison since the processor is 3612 and not 3610

http://img.gfx.no/1022/1022527/Intel_6.jpg i7 3720QM Base Freq 2.60, and when needed 3.60 (if I'm reading this right)

http://img.gfx.no/1022/1022528/Intel_7.jpg i7 3610QM Base Freq 2.30, and when needed 3.30



Thanks, that comparison helps and yes you were reading it right. I need to get it from newegg because they gave me store credit for the ux31 =( there is 1500$ that I cant use anywhere else. It looks like tho the ns series is going to be top model other than the 3d ns. Newegg only caring the ns72!
If you were getting a g75 and you had the money to get the NS, would you? or would you get the DS? I am really indecisive lol

fuzon1337
04-30-2012, 08:30 PM
I'm really stuck on that situation my self since others on this forum is saying that the GTX 660 is better then GTX670 (unless I'm very wrong about this) since one of them is fermi based and the other is kepler..... I'm not so good with the difference on these and why the one is better.. so i'll have to digg on it and see what I can find out..

EDIT: I'm not going to buy a new notebook since I bought the G73SW 3DE 7-8 months ago =/ But I'm interested on the technical information on this notebook and learn more about the hardware that it uses and compare them to others :)

EDIT 2: Also if you're not in a hurry to buy a new notebook.... perhaps you should wait and see if newegg comes with more models?

NotSneaky
04-30-2012, 08:43 PM
I might have misunderstood that too than. The 660 is the fermi and 670 kepler that is what i thought.
this is a side by side http://blog.cuvilib.com/2012/03/28/nvidia-cuda-kepler-vs-fermi-architecture/
dont know if its much help.
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?13476-G75-first-review/page3

I still think that 670 will perform better than the 660.

fuzon1337
04-30-2012, 08:46 PM
I did find this site: http://3dvision-blog.com/tag/geforce-gtx-670m/

Scroll down to the first table and then you can see the difference on GTX670m and GTX660m

EDIT: Asus should have used GTX675m on G75 to make it better then the old series. Just to bad that the GTX660 is 128-bit =/

Thanks for the info :)

NotSneaky
04-30-2012, 09:06 PM
wow um ok.
Graphics performance is also lower for the GTX 660M over the GTX 670M .
"In comparison to the old G74, the new model has seen significant external and internal updates. Let's start with the graphics card: instead of the GeForce GTX 560M, the G75 uses the much faster GeForce GTX 670M. This high-end graphics card does not use Nvidia's new Kepler architecture, but the performance increase is still significant. According to our sources, there will be models with the slower (but Kepler-based) GeForce GTX 660M."
So confused now! the early release of the g75 will have Fermi based 670 later on models will have kepler. wtf!

fuzon1337
04-30-2012, 09:18 PM
Not sure if I'm following you now :P

The G75 already comes with the GTX660M and GTX670M look in your link http://promos.asus.com/US/2012GSeries/index.htm

NotSneaky
04-30-2012, 09:31 PM
Yea that is right but one of the articles I found said the later models will have 670 Kepler, but after doing some digging I dont trust that article anymore.
I am going to end up buying the 670m.
one of my other friends is buying the g55 we will benchmark and see which one is better. even tho I really think that it will be the 670m even tho it is not a kelper

fuzon1337
04-30-2012, 09:48 PM
So then you will go with the pc from newegg? The only thing you will gain on that notebook is the CPU, I can not see any other difference :P

NotSneaky
04-30-2012, 09:53 PM
Yes I am, I know that is the only thing I will gain. other website that sell have striped down models of the g75
like bestbuy
or tigerdirect and othhers.
plus I have a 1600$ credit on newegg that I need to use xD
They wont cash it out for me.

xeromist
04-30-2012, 10:04 PM
I've seen mobile Kepler in action and it's very nice with appropriate clocks but right now yields are low for all Kepler including desktop. It may be some time before we see Kepler fully spread its wings. If you need a laptop now then you'll be better off with the revised Fermi.

fuzon1337
04-30-2012, 10:31 PM
Yes I am, I know that is the only thing I will gain. other website that sell have striped down models of the g75
like bestbuy
or tigerdirect and othhers.
plus I have a 1600$ credit on newegg that I need to use xD
They wont cash it out for me.

Okey :) Perhaps you could give a review on it when you get it :) And your opinions on it when you have tried it a litte :)


I've seen mobile Kepler in action and it's very nice with appropriate clocks but right now yields are low for all Kepler including desktop. It may be some time before we see Kepler fully spread its wings. If you need a laptop now then you'll be better off with the revised Fermi.

It would be nice to see how the kepler will work when it's fully developed and perhaps in these new beasts :)

But can I ask one thing, why was there so many different models in the G73(JH, JW, SW) series, and when it come to G74 it is only one model (SX). In logical term also the G53 should have gone to G54 but didn't. I feel that the G74 only have been into marked for some months and the G73 has been in the market for over 1 year at least. Wouldn't it be better to call this new G75 for G74vw ?

Perhaps a stupid question and poor formulation of what I'm trying to say :p so sorry for that.

xeromist
04-30-2012, 10:37 PM
The 75 is a redesign in more ways than just a newer GPU so I think it earns the new generation number. There is a new article on the front page that talks about the new design:
http://rog.asus.com/97782012/g-series-laptops/the-design-ideas-behind-the-g75vw-g55vw/

There never was a G54 because the 74 just didn't scale down properly. The 54 would have been thicker than the 74 (see the above article here for more comparisons between recent releases).

fuzon1337
04-30-2012, 10:45 PM
Thank you for the answer and link @Xeromist :)

This answerd many of my questions :)

NotSneaky
05-01-2012, 12:55 AM
Yes I will do a review on it as soon as I get it. I wont review till next week because of final exams. Thank you for the help