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pcorreiamd
05-06-2012, 06:29 PM
Hi everyone. My first post here so I hope somebody can help. I am looking to buy a new notebook to replace my old M50Vm and the only purpose in mind is gaming especially SWTOR. I have been comparing models of the G74 and then I heard the G75 was coming out so I decided to wait. So as far as I could tell the G74SX-AH71 is the latest model for the G74 but its specification look a lot similar to the G75vw with the maximum specs.
Processor: G74 Intel® Core™ i7 2670QM Processor 2,2 GHz (up to 3,1); G75 Intel® Core™ i7 3720QM Processor 2,6 GHz (3,6)
Chipset: G74 Intel® HM65 Express Chipset; G75 Intel® HM77 Chipset
Memory: G74 16 GB DDR3 1333 MHz SDRAM; G75 16 GB DDR3 1600 MHz SDRAM
Graphic: G74 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M 3GB; G75 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 670M 3GB
The rest of the specs are basically the same with both having Full HD and 3D capability.
So my question basically is this. Is it worth it? Should I buy the new (more expensive) G75vw or go for the G74SX-AH71? Thanks for the help ;)

Daylife
05-06-2012, 06:42 PM
Hi everyone. My first post here so I hope somebody can help. I am looking to buy a new notebook to replace my old M50Vm and the only purpose in mind is gaming especially SWTOR. I have been comparing models of the G74 and then I heard the G75 was coming out so I decided to wait. So as far as I could tell the G74SX-AH71 is the latest model for the G74 but its specification look a lot similar to the G75vw with the maximum specs.
Processor: G74 Intel® Core™ i7 2670QM Processor 2,2 GHz (up to 3,1); G75 Intel® Core™ i7 3720QM Processor 2,6 GHz (3,6)
Chipset: G74 Intel® HM65 Express Chipset; G75 Intel® HM77 Chipset
Memory: G74 16 GB DDR3 1333 MHz SDRAM; G75 16 GB DDR3 1600 MHz SDRAM
Graphic: G74 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M 3GB; G75 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 670M 3GB
The rest of the specs are basically the same with both having Full HD and 3D capability.
So my question basically is this. Is it worth it? Should I buy the new (more expensive) G75vw or go for the G74SX-AH71? Thanks for the help ;)


G75VW Hands down.

fuzon1337
05-06-2012, 06:46 PM
Hi and Welcome to the ROG community! :)

I don't want to tell you which notebook you should go for, but you can have this in mind:

Better options to clean the fans on the G75 than G74
The G75 comes with latest Intel CPU, Ivy Bridge, and the G74 has Sandy Bridge.... (in some games the CPU can start to throttle, and you will experience low fps. There is a temporary solution for it, but we have to pray for the almighty asus team to release a new BIOS that fixes this issue). Click on this, to get to this thread Attention G73-53SW Owners CPU Throttling.... (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?2329-ATTENTION-G73-53SW-Owners-CPU-Throttling-to-798mhz-and-how-to-fix-it&country=&status=)(also for G74)
One downside on the G75 is that Asus has went back to use two RAM slots under the keyboard and the two others is easly access able under the notenook. On the G74 all four RAM slots is available under the notebook.

Then the rest between these beasts is very simular constructed with HDD/SSD bays, wifi card location.....
These was the first things I could come up with so perhaps others will step in and give their opinion about what they think :)

EDIT:
If I'm not wrong you have the possibility to RAID the HDDs :)

57degrees
05-06-2012, 07:25 PM
I don't know if SWTOR needs the num lock key, but the G74 doesn't have it.

MinhMMK
05-06-2012, 08:00 PM
How come the G74 doesn't have the num lock key @_@ ? You mean the numberpad ?

fuzon1337
05-06-2012, 08:17 PM
As I have understood about the num lock key is that you cant activate the number pad as you call it @MinhMMK..... the only thing that happends when you push that button is that the calculator pops up :P A new hotkey for the calc xD

MinhMMK
05-06-2012, 08:21 PM
i see xD. never tried that on my G53 xD.

AbbyY
05-06-2012, 08:42 PM
Definitely G75 is better than G74 due to the new IB processor and GPU.

As I know, G75 is also throttled, but "only" at 1.2GHz instead of 798MHz like G74 (in some conditions like full load CPU+GPU). The good is that Asus activated AES instruction in G75 procs (G74 has not AES activated, needing a modified bios).

If you have the bucks get the G75 :)

chrsplmr
05-06-2012, 10:40 PM
PCorreiAMD----Welcome to ROG.

G75 ... is all the things the G74 is not.. and more importantly
much more that it is.

ROG's flagship .... this year's Best.
The price of the G74 -- will begin to drop ... like a rock.
Could be the better 'deal' ............ but if you have the coins-
-G75 hands down--yes, worth the difference in $$$.c.

pcorreiamd
05-07-2012, 05:17 PM
Thank you all for the warm welcomes and for helping with my dilemma. Why couldnt Asus just put the almighty gtx580 to make everything easier? They keep sending out notebooks out with average graphics while Dell gets all the fun. I hate that I love Asus so much but its already my 3rd notebook and they are reliable. Any idea if we can expect better than the gtx670m on an Asus notebook still in 2012? :p

Holy
05-07-2012, 06:15 PM
We might the 680m has not been mentioned/released yet.

cmv
05-07-2012, 06:26 PM
I was faced with a similar dilemma, either get a G74 or wait for the G75. There are elements of the G75 that appealed to me, primarily the Intel IB and newer gfx.

Ultimately, I chose to wait for the release of the G75, and having discovered that a local Best Buy had a few in stock, I did not hesitate to buy the G75VSW-BKK5. That was about a week ago. Since then, I've been quite happy with that decision.

I've played LoTRO, SWTOR, and GW2 beta on it and at high resolutions. Briefly, it felt very capable running those game titles and no doubt far more. I bought this primarily for networking related tasks, e.g. running GNS3, and dynamips, networking lab/bench, capturing packets and analysis. It's gaming ability is only secondary for my purposes, and its styling is more appealing IMO.

It definitely is a great value relative to price and performance. From the stock components, very minimal upgrades is needed, e.g. 8Gig of 1600Mhz ram, and an SSD, and of course the required backpack/bag that fits this beast of a laptop.

Boosted_R
05-07-2012, 07:25 PM
BOTH
- has keyboard issues, touchpad issues, throttling and poor bios

G74
- Faster GPU than the 660M (best buy model i believe), Slower than the 670M
- Fan intake vents on top (+)

G75
- Faster CPU than G74
- Fan intake vent on bottom (-)
- Thinner than G74

Best advice I can give you; Get the Samsung 7 Series lol............ from the lack of ASUS support for the G74 that we have all seen, there are better options out there

If you had to choose G series, the G75 is not as bad as the G74 but bad none the less, Asus can't seem to get quality under control

fostert
05-08-2012, 02:32 AM
Something else to consider...the bugs in the G74 have been worked through and 99% have been addressed...in other words there are no surprises, and you'll likely be up and running within minutes or hours thanks to the accumulated knowledge especially contained by the fine folks here. The G75 will likely be 10-15% faster, yes, but we don't know alot about it yet, and won't for some months. Upto yu, but a decked out G74 may be the right thing if you like to avoid headaches and wading into the unknown, and just want a stable gaming system to play and work on with (again) no surprises.

Holy
05-08-2012, 02:41 AM
BOTH
- has keyboard issues, touchpad issues, throttling and poor bios

G74
- Faster GPU than the 660M (best buy model i believe), Slower than the 670M
- Fan intake vents on top (+)

G75
- Faster CPU than G74
- Fan intake vent on bottom (-)
- Thinner than G74

Best advice I can give you; Get the Samsung 7 Series lol............ from the lack of ASUS support for the G74 that we have all seen, there are better options out there

If you had to choose G series, the G75 is not as bad as the G74 but bad none the less, Asus can't seem to get quality under control


The 660 is faster than the 560 the drivers just are not completely optimized for the 6XXm's yet.
the Fermi's drivers are fairly developed.

pcorreiamd
05-08-2012, 04:14 PM
Something else to consider...the bugs in the G74 have been worked through and 99% have been addressed...in other words there are no surprises, and you'll likely be up and running within minutes or hours thanks to the accumulated knowledge especially contained by the fine folks here. The G75 will likely be 10-15% faster, yes, but we don't know alot about it yet, and won't for some months. Upto yu, but a decked out G74 may be the right thing if you like to avoid headaches and wading into the unknown, and just want a stable gaming system to play and work on with (again) no surprises.

Yes I was thinking about this problem but since I will buy it in the summer hopefully already the bug problems will have been solved. The calc no numlock key seems to be bothering a lot of ppl on the G74 :P. Also I saw in your description that you have 32 GB Ram, I thought the limit was 16????

Daylife
05-08-2012, 04:29 PM
The 660 is faster than the 560 the drivers just are not completely optimized for the 6XXm's yet.
the Fermi's drivers are fairly developed.


Correct, the 6 series will be a lot better as soon as the drivers are optomized.

Holy
05-08-2012, 06:25 PM
Ty for the correction also the 660m can overclock to match the 670m at a lower power consumption. And less heat.