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john_from_ohio
06-18-2012, 02:00 PM
First things to do after purchasing G55/G75 based systems
Asus staff/moderators: please make this item a sticky to stay on top of the forum PLEASE!

1) Immediately if not sooner uninstall the asus live update utility ... it will cause problems either with BIOS updates done thru windows ( winflash ) or usb3 drivers or worse.

It needs to be yanked before your system is damaged/compromised.

2) Update to the latest asus recovery utility version and then burn yourself a set of recovery disks.

3) If running mcaffee ditch it and put some kind of other antivirus/firewall combination into place on yourself.

Trying to stay brand agnostic here but I personally recomend a double layer that includes NIS 2012 ( Norton Internet Security ) along with MBAM ( Malware Bytes Anti Malware ).

4) Do some testing with something like furmark and ( hwinfo to monitor ) and verify/check that your GPU temps are within normal ranges. ( If not within normal perhaps heat sinks not installed correctly or covered etc ... ).

5) Be aware of your return/exchange dates that are applicable to your purchase!

6) If re-installing Win 7 for a fresh installation or doing a windows system image recovery be aware:

a) You need a Win 7 64 bit installation disk that includes SP1 on the G55/G75 machines. The original ( missing SP1 ) Win 7 install disks will not understand the UEFI/bios stuff.

b) If doing a Win 7 system image onto an external drive ( highly recommended ) for recovery purposes ( will be up to date with anything installed on your system at the time you create the system image ) it needs to be recovered with the same type of Win 7 64 bit SP1 included INSTALL disk. The win 7 utility will let you create a recovery disk on G55/G75 but it will not work to recover a system with ... the SP1 included INSTALL disk will work to boot up a system and do the recovery with.

Jaru
06-27-2012, 11:10 AM
hi, im a rog g55vw owner, it's been a month since unboxing., installing software, uninstall, defrag, copy paste, delete..okay, my question is, if i make the AI disk now, will i have a clean old factory setting like operting system / driver / software after running recovery disk??
-sorry my bad english

dstrakele
06-27-2012, 11:22 AM
Yes - it will be the same as when you first started your G55.

PALADiN
06-27-2012, 12:08 PM
You seriously recommended a Norton product?

-100 geek points.

john_from_ohio
06-27-2012, 09:28 PM
You seriously recommended a Norton product?

-100 geek points.

What part of this are you having trouble reading? ... put some kind of other antivirus/firewall combination ...

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3) If running mcaffee ditch it and put some kind of other antivirus/firewall combination into place on yourself.

Trying to stay brand agnostic here but I personally recomend a double layer that includes NIS 2012 ( Norton Internet Security ) along with MBAM ( Malware Bytes Anti Malware ).

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So you want to toss some kind of insult but you yourself provide no recommendation at all? That's a fail.

If you want to debate who is the bigger geek well then go ahead and bring it ... let's go offline though please.

PALADiN
06-28-2012, 01:58 AM
Norton is just as bad as McAfee (as any self respecting geek would know).

Personally, I recommend Comodo firewall (http://www.comodo.com) and VIPRE Antivirus (http://www.vipreantivirus.com).

Myk SilentShadow
06-28-2012, 02:42 AM
Norton is just as bad as McAfee (as any self respecting geek would know).


This "self respecting geek" has been using McAfee for 10 years now, never had a problem with it. It catches anything that may try and sneak onto my system and kills it quickly and effectively. It may be a bit heavier on resources than it used to be, but it's still far and away a better alt to Norton's system hogging and sometimes system crippling bloatware :p

john_from_ohio
06-28-2012, 02:58 PM
Norton is just as bad as McAfee (as any self respecting geek would know).

Personally, I recommend Comodo firewall (http://www.comodo.com) and VIPRE Antivirus (http://www.vipreantivirus.com).

Well at least now you have a recommendation out here. Not sure why you want to keep tossing out implied insults ... is this personal somehow?

As I noted at least a couple times here already people need to get some kind of combination of stuff to protect themselves. That along with having a tested and proven backup and recovery solution in place will get you at least ... a way to recover after you get hacked/compromised. With the rate of speed that malware/virus/rootkits/rats appear and the increasing sophistication of that stuff plus all the holes in micrsoft and apple ( and others ) operating systems ... having a solid backup plan is a must.

Not that anyone should trust implicitly CNET or PcMag but NIS 2012 is a top rated product. The last several years it has become much faster/better ... the outstanding threat by some hackers to release some old Norton source code probably is pretty hollow at this point.

Geeks need to stick together and discuss things intelligently not toss around weak slams ... just my opinion.

Personally if I was not using NIS I would probably pick Kapersky next ... not familiar with VIPRE or Comodo but hey whatever makes you happy and as long as you have a proven and tested backup and recovery procedure.

The odds of any of us getting hacked/compromised appear to be going up not down no matter how updated one keeps a system and no matter how much one stays away from shaky internet places and does not install "lots of stuff" from almost anywhere.

Cecil_2099
06-30-2012, 01:39 AM
For anyone looking for the place to download the latest drivers and utilities for the G75/G55, go to the following links:

G75: http://rog.asus.com/notebook/17-inch/g75vw/
(http://rog.asus.com/notebook/17-inch/g75vw/)G55: http://rog.asus.com/notebook/15-inch/g55vw/
(http://rog.asus.com/notebook/15-inch/g55vw/)
Scroll down, click the "Download" tab, and select "Windows 7 64bit" in the OS drop down menu.

Files are posted in their categories in chronological order with more recent files at the top.

ASUS AI Recovery Utility is located in the "Utilities" Category.

ValenB5
06-30-2012, 06:57 PM
For anyone looking for the place to download the latest drivers and utilities for the G75/G55, go to the following links:

G75: http://rog.asus.com/notebook/17-inch/g75vw/
(http://rog.asus.com/notebook/17-inch/g75vw/)G55: http://rog.asus.com/notebook/15-inch/g55vw/
(http://rog.asus.com/notebook/15-inch/g55vw/)
Scroll down, click the "Download" tab, and select "Windows 7 64bit" in the OS drop down menu.

Files are posted in their categories in chronological order with more recent files at the top.

ASUS AI Recovery Utility is located in the "Utilities" Category.

1) Should we download the latest drivers & utilities for each & every category in that list that shows up in the link that you provided for our model of laptop?

2) Do we need to uninstall or delete the old driver/utility before we install a new driver/utility?

Cecil_2099
07-02-2012, 05:09 AM
1) It's personal preference. If you're the "if it isn't broke don't fix it"-type then leave well enough alone. If you're the "need to have the latest and greatest"-type then sure, download the most recent revision for each & every driver/utility.

2) Uninstalling the older version prior to installing the new version is usually the best route if an uninstaller option is available. If not, just install over the existing. Outright deleting it is generally not a good idea since you may miss something or accidentally delete the wrong file/driver and end up causing more harm than good.

ValenB5
07-02-2012, 08:33 PM
Thank you very much, Cecil!

Eynnl
07-17-2012, 01:30 AM
Just got my system fired up making the back up disks before anything else......just in case. What about Windows Updates? I have always had my P C's notify me ...I never let anything update on it's own. Do you recommend installing all the Windows Updates?
I will do a clean install later down the road for now I want to make sure everything is good to go.

pROGammer
09-12-2012, 05:51 PM
First things to do after buying G55/G75 based notebooks?
Open this thread and tell future buyers they should do the same :-)

Windows 7 (without SP1) installed just fine on my G75 or am I missing something?

markp
09-18-2012, 09:22 AM
Hello.

I have a G75V with preinstalled WIndows 7 Premium, etc. I need to install software that requires that EFI be disabled (already done in BIOS settings), and that the EFI system partition be non existent.

I have read through the many postings on how to backup and restore the system, etc., but I have not seen anything on how to do a fresh rebuild without EFI and being able to access all of the ASUS drivers and programs stored i the Recovery partition. (I if missed a post with this information, I apologize)

Note that I have already created the 4 DVDs (which bascially recreate the system with the EFI partition and recovery partition) and have rebuilt the system several time using these DVDs. Also, I have no user data or other applications installed yet so that is not a problem.

Any help with how to do this would be appreciated.

Thanks ... Mark

rewben
10-07-2012, 01:54 AM
hello!
im having some troubles with this computer, so im just wondering if there would be any problems formatting it and start from scratch;
i have a genuine win 7 pro cd that i bought when i was a student, can't i just use this one to start fresh? i dont really care anymore if this ****ty win 7 home (preinstalled on the computer) goes to waste because everything thats preinstalled (including programs) on this computer seems to disturb on thing or another... i only have so much patience for ****ty things.
dont get me wrong, the g75vw is a lovely computer and im looking forward to take good care of it the next couple of years, would be sad if i had to get rid of it.

Felicia

as long as the license of your win 7 pro is not of OEM, then it's ok to do that.

chiilin
10-19-2012, 11:53 PM
Hi,

This is my 1st post as I just received a new G75VW-NS71 RT (with GeForce GTX 670M) I bought from Newegg. I am following this post which was recommended by someone else who bought this model laptop on Newegg's site.

However, I'm no expert, and some of these step (from original post) are vague or don't give specifics. I don't mean to sound ungrateful, because I am, but for instance in step 4) What are normal temperatures? I have run Furmark benchmark and my GPU temps went steadily up and then pegged at 96 to 97-degrees Celcius the whole time. I can't find anyone else talking about their temperatures. I Googled around and see others that got this same exact temperatures (on other forums) and they were advised they were WAY TOO HOT and advised to RMA it (which they did, and at great cost sending it overseas). However, I find it quite the coincidence I got exactly the same temps as this other person, and I am hesitant to assume this is too high (or above normal as this post says).

Can some others that have a G75VW with GeForce GTX 670M please share what you Furmark bench test temperatures are?

Thanks! :D

chiilin
10-24-2012, 08:26 PM
OK, well for anyone else wondering, the normal temperature range for the Furmark Bench Test (the 15-min Test at 1920 X 1080) appears to be in the mid-75-degrees Celcius range (Step 4 from the OP).

My first G75-VW I bought ran a steady 97-degrees (see post above). Nobody replied to my post above in this thread (no big surprise for a stickied thread since it doesn't re-sort on the listed postings and people don't notice them as much); so I created this post "Normal" Temperature for GTX 670M in G75VW?" (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?24229-quot-Normal-quot-Temperature-for-GTX-670M-in-G75VW&p=174065#post174065)

Many people replied and it seems nobody ever goes, say, over 80-degrees. Long story short, I RMA'd my laptop back to Newegg, and the replacement now runs at 74 to 75-degrees on the Furmark Bench Test. You can read more in that linked thread.

Hopefully this will help anyone else wondering "How hot is too hot?"

Skull6
11-09-2012, 04:39 PM
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b) If doing a Win 7 system image onto an external drive ( highly recommended ) for recovery purposes ( will be up to date with anything installed on your system at the time you create the system image ) it needs to be recovered with the same type of Win 7 64 bit SP1 included INSTALL disk. The win 7 utility will let you create a recovery disk on G55/G75 but it will not work to recover a system with ... the SP1 included INSTALL disk will work to boot up a system and do the recovery with.

So, even if I create a recovery disk using Windows 7's in-house app, I'll need a Win 7 INSTALL disk that also has SP1 (slipstreamed?) on it to do any recovery? Is there a way to download Win 7 install with SP1 already included? If not, will a slipstreamed Win 7 plus SP1 work in such a case? (If I can find a link to download the Win 7 install, will it need be the OEM version, or will my current key work otherwise?)

chiilin
11-09-2012, 05:02 PM
So, even if I create a recovery disk using Windows 7's in-house app, I'll need a Win 7 INSTALL disk that also has SP1 (slipstreamed?) on it to do any recovery? Is there a way to download Win 7 install with SP1 already included? If not, will a slipstreamed Win 7 plus SP1 work in such a case? (If I can find a link to download the Win 7 install, will it need be the OEM version, or will my current key work otherwise?)

I don't really understand what this point [from the OP] was all about, or if it is even accurate. But for what it's worth, I can tell you this: I created Recovery Discs using the AI Utility (both on DVDs and images on an external HDD). I then installed a new SSD into my G75 and successfully "restored" the OS onto the new drive and everything worked and is working fine. I hope this helps :)

Skull6
11-10-2012, 01:59 AM
Is it still recommended that we uninstall the Asus LiveUpdate package? THis guie was put forth in June 2012, & the update utility was updated a month later?

Didi Asus fix the issues that led to the recommended uninstall, or is it otherwise now safe to utilize the updated software package?

dstrakele
11-10-2012, 02:45 AM
I believe the ASUS LiveUpdate utility can be used as long as it's configured to only notify of new updates rather than automatically install them.

Personally, I would still just uninstall it. A lot of the issues reported here result from driver installation problems. IMO, allowing ANY utility to take charge of this important function is absolutely asking for trouble. If you're interested in keeping drivers up to date, monitor this forum, read the posts about new drivers, and choose to install them yourself.