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merkavamk5
07-23-2012, 10:02 PM
Hello

Ive tried googling for answers, but Im just getting results for the desktop 670 card.

I used msi afterburner, but theres no increase in fps no matter how far i push the sliders.

Anyone got any tips on how to oc the 670m card

Gumbee
07-23-2012, 11:42 PM
evga precision X some one on this fourm OC there GPU with that which i tried and worked well

Davixandrex89
07-24-2012, 01:50 AM
I have a G75VW with that graph, the program I used was EVGA Precision X, and the graph does well, the values I use ​​were 700MHz and 1650MHz! Greetings!

c_man
07-28-2012, 07:50 PM
nvidiaInspector will work just fine.

I have tested several 75s and OC seems good.

In game run with a decent +80C temp @ 800Mhz and 1700Mhz. You can do even better, but this is pushing it.

A more normal combo is 755Mhz with 1650Mhz. 755 is something I have picked up from G55, to have a symmetry :D

660M had a top of +135Mhz OC limit (BIOS locked), so I did the same with 670M for no good reason. You can pick 750 or 775 or whatever you like and keeps temps low for the performance it offers.

In game temp is very good with these settings (I hardly saw any increase from stock) as well and the combo GPU+CPU is cooler than that in the G55, even if it has a Kepler card in it (the CPU in G55 will do well above 90C).

Vantage run @ 755/1650 is 15459 points - like I've said, no real extra heat or any other problems. Graphics score 14139 points (about the same with stock 675M).

If you push the card, you can hit just under 4k point tag in 3dMark 11. System stable in game (tested with Max Payne 3 for several missions). But that's just pushing it, I would not keep it there for everyday use.

I am amazed how well this G75 can perform under stress. With a normal game temps are very low for this kind of graphic performance. Laptop is quiet and just warm.

c_man
07-30-2012, 02:55 PM
Ah my bad.. I thought we all G75's came with the same screen :/..

@c_man: I do agree with you that they have done a great job with these laptops. And you said '670M OC to ~675M performance with a minimum temp rise' What is the performance of the 675M? i checked online and it said that the GTX 675M has a core clock of 620mhz and 1500memory.. Thats the same as mine on stock :s.. when i OC my 670M i get closer to 680 performance with 700mhz~1650memory

I get a score of like 980 on heaven benchmark lol :) on the rog asus website they say the G75vw gets a score of 800+ n mine blows it out of the water :p

Seems like software reads 675M values.

Real should be ~600Mhz/1200Mhz/1500Mhz - GPU/Shader/Memory. I gues it does not matter that much since 675 has more pipelines and wider bus.

I only use 3dmark 11 and Vantage to compare.

With the first one it can do ~3950 points on stock voltage. Maybe more on some models that OC better as I have seen almost 4000 on one. A more mid value is 3900 for most. System stable 100% in game.

The GPU score is ~3600 for most while 675M has around 3200-3300. So it's easy to top the 675M with lower settings and not much temp increase (mine it's like a few more).

I'll do that Heaven test to see how it performs.

c_man
07-30-2012, 03:31 PM
http://s10.postimage.org/fj4p81hu1/Clipboard01_heaven.jpg

Are these the right settings?

mrwolf
07-30-2012, 05:29 PM
wow !! nicce lol how did u get it so high? :p yea i think i did the same settings, 4xAF, no AA and tesselation disabled.. Although it does run with tesselation on but u cant get such a high score..

So.. mr.c_man.. U mind tellin me what u did to get it so high? lol did u OC or what??

Although when i did this, i forgot to overclock so i will try again this afternoon n see if i get the same..

c_man
07-30-2012, 06:03 PM
This is my gaming setting, a mid OC.

mrwolf
07-30-2012, 06:22 PM
Ok so i just tried it with OC: 720Mhz+1650memory (power4gear entertainment and adaptive power setting in nvidia control center)

With the same settings as you i got 1046 which is pretty good in my opinion lol.
What is your mid OC c_man?

c_man
07-30-2012, 06:42 PM
It's above, 755/1650.

mrwolf
07-30-2012, 06:52 PM
Holy crap, thats ur Mid OC? loll well that explains it then, im scared to go over 720 :/
Thanks anyways man, atleast now i know it is safe to go up to 755 if need be

c_man
07-30-2012, 07:10 PM
Test this. Not all the cards are the same. And right now I play SpecOps The Line with all maxed out and I have 71C (stock is a bit under) with room temp at 32C. I would say it's OK. I never had artefacts in test or games or any problems at all.

Davixandrex89
07-31-2012, 12:34 AM
I have a g75vw with a 670m gtx with a oc of 750/1670, using 3DMark11 and the result is about 3500 and in gaming performance is stable and the maximum temperature is 65 C, to achieve performance of the gtx 675m in gb bandwidth we need another oc with double values! greetings!!

c_man
07-31-2012, 08:34 AM
The 675M has 96Gb/s. I don't think 670M can do much better above 84Gb/s. Safe is to keep it at ~80.

Zygomorphic
07-31-2012, 10:16 AM
96/84 = 114% ... in other words, you are looking at a minor increase in bandwidth. 14% is noticeable, but not significant. The core and shaders will make more difference, especially when the AA is cranked up.

mrwolf
08-03-2012, 02:32 AM
Btw just wondering, is it normal for my shader clock to be at 620mhz, memory 1240mhz and memory usage 1495mhz when watching HD youtube or HD mkv videos in fullscreen (Gpu usage fluctuates but stays low)..? My temp stays cool at like 45-50 but was just wondering if that kind of usage is normal..?

perfectblue
08-03-2012, 07:41 AM
I have G75VW-DS2 with 670M which I cranked upto 755 core -1650 memory overclock. I am getting 83C on furmark. Is it normal? SHould I decrease the core clock to reduce the temp below 80?

10615

Zygomorphic
08-03-2012, 10:14 AM
@mrwolf, 45-50 is perfectly fine, HD videos are decoded on the GPU now, so that doesn't surprise me.

@perfectblue, I would advise dropping the clocks to reduce the temps below 80. 70 C would be a nice maximum. If you really want to OC, desktops are a much better way of doing so.

c_man
08-03-2012, 10:26 AM
Btw just wondering, is it normal for my shader clock to be at 620mhz, memory 1240mhz and memory usage 1495mhz when watching HD youtube or HD mkv videos in fullscreen (Gpu usage fluctuates but stays low)..? My temp stays cool at like 45-50 but was just wondering if that kind of usage is normal..?

It's normal. You can UC if you want.


I have G75VW-DS2 with 670M which I cranked upto 755 core -1650 memory overclock. I am getting 83C on furmark. Is it normal? SHould I decrease the core clock to reduce the temp below 80?

10615

It's normal. You will never play Furmark, but games. In game temp will be around 70C, maybe a little more for you, under 75C. Test it. You never know.

Fermi should be solid GPUs.

My advice is to use OC only if needed. For example I play Inversion with GPU UC to 365Mhz and it works great at 60C. I don't need more, I don't stress the GPU for nothing.

I use nVidiaInspector with profiles. It's very easy to chage things on the fly.

ROG'er
08-07-2012, 05:41 AM
Hello guys,
I tried using your clocks but my gpu isn't stable. I tried 755/1650 however it gave me cracks and colors. I decreased it until it reached 720/1650.
Why is it that yours can reach that level and mine wont? Did u increase the voltage or is it something wrong with my laptop?
Im using Asus G75vw with a 670m
Also, i really don't get much fps increase. More like 3-4 at *720/1650

And how do we ratio memory with core? I still didn't grasp the concept behind it.

Please explain it to me since I'm a beginner over clocker

Zygomorphic
08-07-2012, 08:32 AM
OC'ing depends on the manufacturing variability of the chip...some people get slightly better made chips which allow higher clocks. If your games run fine, I would recommend avoiding OC'ing, since it increases heat output and may reduce thermal paste life.

Don't touch the voltages (I don't think the BIOS can change them) as that is what burns out the chip. Just pushing core/mem/shader clocks up can't really do any lasting damage ... though the heat does go up. As to ratios, I think it is 1:2 (mem being high). Why, I can't tell you. :confused: I'd love to learn myself!

c_man
08-07-2012, 08:56 AM
Hello guys,
I tried using your clocks but my gpu isn't stable. I tried 755/1650 however it gave me cracks and colors. I decreased it until it reached 720/1650.
Why is it that yours can reach that level and mine wont? Did u increase the voltage or is it something wrong with my laptop?
Im using Asus G75vw with a 670m
Also, i really don't get much fps increase. More like 3-4 at *720/1650

And how do we ratio memory with core? I still didn't grasp the concept behind it.

Please explain it to me since I'm a beginner over clocker

Components are made within some limits. The important thing is for them to be stable when used as intended. But some will OC better than others.

I have tried several G75s and all of them performed quite good. My card has your problems above 800/1750 I think.

The increase in performance must be in % and will be software dependent. 4fps from 15 to 19 is a lot. 4 fps from 50 to 54 is nothing.

You should have a nice boost at 720/1650.

ROG'er
08-08-2012, 01:55 AM
Components are made within some limits. The important thing is for them to be stable when used as intended. But some will OC better than others.

I have tried several G75s and all of them performed quite good. My card has your problems above 800/1750 I think.

The increase in performance must be in % and will be software dependent. 4fps from 15 to 19 is a lot. 4 fps from 50 to 54 is nothing.

You should have a nice boost at 720/1650.


can the driver that i use relate to the limitation of my overclock?
and what drivers r u using right now? I have the original G75vw driver 290.69....I read that there r issues with this driver....and at 720/1650 it becomes 95% stable....barely ever any colors come on screen but fps increases around 3-4 from 55, which as u can tell nothing at all and not worth the trouble...
I will try out the 304.79b driver and give u my input...

ROG'er
08-08-2012, 03:25 AM
Ok feedback of the new drivers 304.79

the old drivers def were the problem of the low fps
Im not so good with 3d tests so I will just say the score and u can notice the difference
on the old driver score was = x881...23fps
on 304.79b the score is = x1016....29fps
both r on default clock of 620/1500

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Now if I overclock it to 730/1650 i get x1192....33fps


that is an Asus G75vw

c_man
08-08-2012, 09:36 AM
If you don't need the extra fps, just run it stock or even with lower clocks.

mrwolf
08-08-2012, 09:52 AM
Yea i agree with c_man.. You dont really need to OC unless you are experiencing fps issues in game..
For example when i play planetside 2, OC'ing to 700/1650 gives noticable performance increase and is barely in even an overclock in my opinion as it only increases heat by like 2-3degrees max and its like reaching the max stock limits of the GPU.. Going over 700/1650 is more of an overclock and is only needed in extreme situations..
I play alot of hi-end games (Skyrim, crysis 2, planetside2, max payne, BF3) and never really need more than 700mhz :)

Davixandrex89
08-09-2012, 02:11 AM
I want to know the graphics specifications that you put in games and fps, both with stock values ​​in the machine as the oc, so everyone has a vision of what the gpu can do, we also can put the temperatures, I personally always play with oc 750/1650, reached a bandwidth of 80gbs and maximum temperature of 65 C, I live in Argentina, here is winter time but inside my house the temp is around 22C, in games like crysis 2 never low of 30 fps considering that I play it in ultra external monitor 22 " directx 11 off , other games like assassins creed revelation with 4x AA maximum values ​​reached an average of 50 fps, the only game that took over the limit was battlefield 3, which played with a combination high / very high AA2x 1080p because difficulties with the gamepad, 30fps always, I hope to support the initiative to find the range in average should give the graphics, greetings!!!

PD: sorry for my english!

mrwolf
08-09-2012, 07:01 AM
Hmm you seem to have a very cool system lol.. I OC to 700/1650 when i play planetside 2 and get a max temp of about 75C in my room with AC set to 22C and a fps of about 30-60.
But i have noticed different games use different levels of usage and cause different temps. When i play Dirt 3 (40-120fps) or Crysis 2 (35-60fps) i get around 67C - 70C.
In planetside2 my system is being used to its full maximum, more CPU and GPU usage than crysis 2 and battlefield 3 so i guess i can understand why i get such high temps.. But so far i havnt really needed to OC over 700 so i just keep it at that..

@Davixandrex89: If you want much better performance and 10x better graphics in crysis 2, install this mod ! It will change the game completely :) The only downside is you will cannot use your old saves, but its okay because the mods add a feature which allows you to access all of the levels so u can jus start again on the same level. Also you should play with DX11 full tesselation my friend ;)

http://www.crydev.net/viewtopic.php?f=308&t=71027 - Blackfire 2 mod + Maldo's Quality mod

ushhh
08-24-2012, 11:22 AM
which is the best program to overclock my 670 i got nvidiaInspector but cant figure out how to change the gpu clock its grayed out

Hyugafe
08-24-2012, 12:39 PM
which is the best program to overclock my 670 i got nvidiaInspector but cant figure out how to change the gpu clock its grayed out

People use EVGA Precision from http://www.evga.com/precision/

mrwolf
08-24-2012, 02:13 PM
Yea, i use MSI-Afterburner personally..

If you want help with Nvidiainspector, C_man is MAN for that ****

Lucas
08-24-2012, 03:32 PM
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4154234

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/2482233.png (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2482233)

Rogstalker
08-24-2012, 05:59 PM
I dont OC right now. Its nice to know that if I need it later there is potential and I can OC instead of buying a new laptop. (maybe)

From my experience it depends on the hardware how much and sometimes even if I can OC. So I dont do it if I dont really have to. If warranty has gone out, sure i try. But I try to be realistic with expectations on what I buy too.

c_man
08-24-2012, 06:04 PM
which is the best program to overclock my 670 i got nvidiaInspector but cant figure out how to change the gpu clock its grayed out

See my sig for link and details. It's very easy.

As a side note, I've seen UC not working well with some drivers. OC the P0 is OK with all 3xx.xx so far.

Lucas
08-25-2012, 06:29 PM
excuse me for my english, but I forgot to tell you that to improve my 10 degree temperatures, I drilled the back of the G75, for fans direct intake fresh air and you can improve the temperature putting a shelf cooling coolers one kind masters U3

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3439/asusg75703.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/asusg75703.jpg/)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1889/g75v3.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/g75v3.jpg/)

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4903/dessousg75mod.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/dessousg75mod.png/)

MaDaSaNo
08-25-2012, 06:40 PM
I lightly overclocked both the GTX670M and the i7 yesterday and got very decent results.

Right now I don't want to push it very much, the temperatures are VERY nice right now, even OC'd, which was very surprising. Later down the road I might consider trying pushing it a bit further but right now it is very stable and the improvement was noticeable.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4216190

Lucas
08-25-2012, 06:57 PM
I lightly overclocked both the GTX670M and the i7 yesterday and got very decent results.

Right now I don't want to push it very much, the temperatures are VERY nice right now, even OC'd, which was very surprising. Later down the road I might consider trying pushing it a bit further but right now it is very stable and the improvement was noticeable.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4216190



not touched the voltage ?

MaDaSaNo
08-25-2012, 07:38 PM
No Lucas, the voltage is default
i made a printscreen of the configs!
On the core i only change the reference clock from the default 100MHz to 104MHz

c_man
08-25-2012, 07:39 PM
Well, I've said this before, some 670M can reach the 4k without any mod.

How did you OC the CPU? I think Asus has left some options unlocked, but I did not look into it very much. Temp wise I have a good margin to OC it.

MaDaSaNo
08-25-2012, 07:58 PM
I dont know if Asus has left some options unlocked to OC the G75 CPU, but i have a nice software.
Intel Extreme Tuning Utility its a realy decent and easy software to OC the CPU.
I dont mess too much because i dont know the CPU limits yet.
For the moment only with the reference clock at 104MHz, the CPU is realy good and stable.
At the 3D Mark 11 the psysics its much better now if i compare with the 100MHz default reference clock.

c_man
08-25-2012, 08:11 PM
What version is IETU? On my G75 it does not start.

mrwolf
08-25-2012, 09:44 PM
Niccce, thanks for the info about the Intel Extreme tuning utility. Ill give that a try.

Also, drilling those holes seems like a great idea !!

btw i looked for this intel tuning utility but i got several results for desktop boards for the 5 series and 6 series.. Could you please give a download link to the correct one?
Thanks

MaDaSaNo
08-25-2012, 10:00 PM
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=21743&ProdId=3483&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20(64-bit)*&DownloadType=%0ASoftware%20Applications%0A

I tried with the reference clock at 105MHz and i beat a new personal record of 4000points.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4218342

mrwolf
08-25-2012, 10:10 PM
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=21743&ProdId=3483&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20(64-bit)*&DownloadType=%0ASoftware%20Applications%0A

I tried with the reference clock at 105MHz and i beat a new personal record of 4000points.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4218342

WOW i gotta say im impressed man.. i will do the same :)

This is great for CPU intensive games :)) Seems to give massive increase in physics scores

By the way is it safe to keep it clocked like this..? No negative effects, heating? or anything like that?

Also, about OC'ing to 800mhz. Could this in anyway damage the GPU..? Aside from hot temperatures..? Currently the furthest i go with OC'ing is 720/1650

Some info and details on your temps would be helpful..

Thanks

MaDaSaNo
08-26-2012, 12:11 AM
Actualy i am very happy look at this:
http://hwbot.org/benchmark/3dmark11_-_performance/rankings?cores=1#start=1480#interval=20
I am the number one in GEFORCE GTX 670M RANK and i am the number 1480 of the GLOBAL 1X GPU RANK.
Making war in 3d mark11 against desktops. lol.

- mrwolf -
After i done the OC i try some stress tests to see the temperatures.
In my actual OC i have no problem with the temperatures.. 83C its the max temp i get at full test and full processing.
I was playing MW3 at full details and resolution for about 45min and the temp was max 75C..
Far as i know the Max temp before the bios shutdown the laptop for security reasons for the CPU its 120C.
For the moment i will keep this OC and i will see. For the moment the system and the temps are very stable.

c_man
08-26-2012, 07:38 AM
For CPU should be 105C. My laptop has a good 25C.

Now all we need is something for RAM in G75. In G55 Asus took care of it.

Imbranu
08-26-2012, 09:00 PM
All this talk about over Clocking gets me excited to get home and check out this machine. Great job on unlocking the potential of this graphics card and processor.

mrwolf
08-26-2012, 09:37 PM
Yea man, im very happy with my system atm.. I mean, Mid OC on the GPU and a relatively high OC on the CPU causes barely any temperature differences (only the GPU heats up by like 2 or 3 degrees more) and gives BIG results ! Not only on benchmarks but on games too. For example one project im involved in which is planetside 2, a MMO-FPS that requires alot more CPU processing power than normal games as the graphics are intense (on par with battlefied 3 or a bit better) but moreover there are 2000 people on one continent (Giant map) and it requires alot of usage of PhysX for each player.
Now after OC'ing i got barely any increase in temps and the CPU OC helped alot !! Went from 30fps to 45-50 stable with everything maxed out like ambient occlusion, shadowing full, drawdistance full everything.. Im really really impressed :) no need to turn any graphics settings down anymore :cool:

Davixandrex89
08-27-2012, 04:32 AM
great!! I have in my gtx670m an OC of 750/1670, good stability, maximum temperature of 65 C, of course I am in winter, great idea the holes in the fans! but I have a problem with the intel utility to OC the cpu, it said that the instalation suffered an error and that the system not has been modified, try compatibility mode and I get the same error, any ideas or help how to fix, as you have installed? greetings!

mrwolf
08-27-2012, 11:14 AM
hmm thats really strange.. Have you got the latest chipset drivers? and also did u download the right link? This one: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...pplications%0A

It could also be a corrupt download maybe..? i dunno

frisianbear2002
08-27-2012, 11:31 AM
Hmmmm i expected more from Asus G serie , my laptop broke down and where i am now there is no G55 for sale (because i cannot use a big 1 for my work and it's not handy) otherwise i would have bought it so in the meantime till it is availeble i first buy a replacement laptop MSI GT60-onc-16F3 and placed a intell 520-240Gb SSD in it and this are my scores and GPU settings in 3dMark Advantage http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4260855 so i think if you see the overclock from this 670M , 810-1743 is not bad only with 1750 it gets stock.

mrwolf
08-27-2012, 11:41 AM
Nice. Well most of us here a using 3Dmark11 so try that so we can get a decent comparison. 3Dmark Vantage only tests directX 10 and puts alot less load on ur GPU..

frisianbear2002
08-27-2012, 11:46 AM
Hi yes here is 1 i just did http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4230877 , i think in that area most latops with this CPU and GPU perform almost the same there is not much differents.

Lucas
08-27-2012, 12:21 PM
great!! I have in my gtx670m an OC of 750/1670, good stability, maximum temperature of 65 C, of course I am in winter, great idea the holes in the fans! but I have a problem with the intel utility to OC the cpu, it said that the instalation suffered an error and that the system not has been modified, try compatibility mode and I get the same error, any ideas or help how to fix, as you have installed? greetings!



I also can not install a utility intel and I can not find anywhere the driver uses MADASAMO 305.67
I have the same problem as davixandrex

frisianbear2002
08-27-2012, 12:30 PM
Maybe this will help you out http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=367147

Davixandrex89
08-27-2012, 01:54 PM
hmm thats really strange.. Have you got the latest chipset drivers? and also did u download the right link? This one: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...pplications%0A

It could also be a corrupt download maybe..? i dunno

That might be the problem, since I never updated chipset drivers, in the gpu I have the latest drivers, anyone know of a safe link where I can download the latest drivers from the chipset, and what is the proper way to do it , thank you very much!!

here is a capture of the error I have!!
11204

c_man
08-27-2012, 03:56 PM
I did a bit of research and Intel XTU is not exactly bug free and safe. If you mess with the wrong settings, the fail safe is like 50% might work or not.

Also the guys having problem with it, it's Windows fault. You need now a fresh install if you want to use XTU. Nothing else works. And install XTU right after Windows of very soon to be as sure as possible it will work as good as it can.

I can tell you that with 3610QM you might get the 3.3Ghz all the time, but it's very risky. Consider this a BIG warning. The way XTU works can brick your laptop. Temps should go up by 3-5 degrees.

Also, XTU might help those having different RAM modules to make them work at CL9 and 1600Mhz. I have tested it a little and all worked well.

Davixandrex89
08-28-2012, 04:48 AM
I will not make a Windows installation from scratch just to install this program, I'll stay with the desire to see an increase in CPU performance, a shame, suddenly for a future where it really should have to install windows, indeed any to playing some of the latest games, Transformers, Sleeping Dogs, Darksiders, which performance obtained with the machine in stock and oc, thanks for sharing and for the answer!!

civato
08-29-2012, 10:58 PM
I'm new here , I know but just to let you all know , that Intel XTU kills your G75VW ,
I only did a mild OC of 105 to 100 default bus speed(all was stable). But then I noticed that the default Bios profile is changed to 105 and not the normal 100 speed. So no matter what I tried , remove all intel stuff the bus speed still stayed 105 instead of the 100 default.
Only thing I could do is revert back to older bios so I did and then it died. I'm guessing that XTU messes with bios itself and not just on software level. Then I looked a little further and noticed that XTU is just not for our motherboard.
Not saying that XTU killed my laptop directly but trying to recover from the bad default bus speed profile did.

Stupid me and lesson learned , don't follow just every thing you read. To think I flashed GPU's like crazy , I even posted the fermibios editor guide on Guru3d and I build android roms (RE-FLEXxx and Flexreaper and FLEXBOMB) . Just to say I know my way around but still stepped into this to quickly.

Good for me Asus made no big deal out of this and gave me a brand new laptop 15 minutes later after I dropped of the dead one in the shop , bad bios flash. THANK YOU ASUS. I will keep buying your stuff , supurb support.

Conclusion , don't use XTU , maybe asus can bring us a mild cpu OC tool for our G75VW

c_man
08-30-2012, 07:09 AM
You should have reverted everthing with XTU. The problem is when you use a setting that is not safe (105 should be safe with TDP changed to 50 and 60 for short periods). The laptop won't start and you are stuck since in BIOS there is little you can do. XTU has a fail safe, but it does not always work.

civato
08-30-2012, 07:44 AM
You should have reverted everthing with XTU. The problem is when you use a setting that is not safe (105 should be safe with TDP changed to 50 and 60 for short periods). The laptop won't start and you are stuck since in BIOS there is little you can do. XTU has a fail safe, but it does not always work.

I did , anyway I'm staying away from it. If I can't do the OC from the BIOS like on my desktop I'm not doing anymore.
And I'm not blaming anyone, it was me who messed up . I only wanted to share my experience. My brand new one is set now and running fine. In my opinion a speed increase of 100 MHz isn't a real deal. On my desktop I got a 24/7 4.1GHz on my Core I7 940 that runs default 2.9GHz and that is something you really notice.
I understand that such kind of Oc is not possible on laptop , as this is my first laptop ever ( for work) I'm not messing with it anymore.
Only made a profile for my gpu so it doesn't throttle up when just using the browser. I did that with nvidiainspector.

mrwolf
08-30-2012, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the info tho man, ill be more careful when using this too from now on.

Also how did it manage to get stuck as default at 105mhz..? Did you set it to 105 and then shutdown or something? Just so we know how to prevent anything like this in the future.

civato
08-30-2012, 07:04 PM
Thanks for the info tho man, ill be more careful when using this too from now on.

Also how did it manage to get stuck as default at 105mhz..? Did you set it to 105 and then shutdown or something? Just so we know how to prevent anything like this in the future.

reboot with those settings did the corruption, and the default profile is overwritten with 105 speed so no way back.

Guido7142
10-02-2012, 10:18 PM
Did anyone considered modifying the turbo multiplier instead of the base frequency ? I wander if changing those x33 and x31 would make things a little safer and still maintain the minimum of 2.3 GHz. That might be interesting.

bignazpwns
10-02-2012, 10:33 PM
I did , anyway I'm staying away from it. If I can't do the OC from the BIOS like on my desktop I'm not doing anymore.
And I'm not blaming anyone, it was me who messed up . I only wanted to share my experience. My brand new one is set now and running fine. In my opinion a speed increase of 100 MHz isn't a real deal. On my desktop I got a 24/7 4.1GHz on my Core I7 940 that runs default 2.9GHz and that is something you really notice.
I understand that such kind of Oc is not possible on laptop , as this is my first laptop ever ( for work) I'm not messing with it anymore.
Only made a profile for my gpu so it doesn't throttle up when just using the browser. I did that with nvidiainspector.


You are overclocking with the bios. Problem with the stock ram. If you do brick it you can always remove the stock ram and fire it up with some aftermarket. The stock ram is crap and i had some DDR3 1333 that would overclock better then the stock 1600 stuff. Or remove your bios battery for a reset. Either way its voiding the warranty. Bios batter is located under the keyboard.

If you want a little more out of the cpu use throttle stop and force the turbo multi.

Guido7142
10-02-2012, 10:44 PM
That's my point, would it help to increase the multiplier instead of increasing the base frequency ?

bignazpwns
10-02-2012, 10:45 PM
Yeah but not by much i mean a few fps. It would only help a lot if the cpu was bottle necking the GPU.

RHC
10-04-2012, 07:38 PM
:)hi everyone
Notebook g75vw 1076 on having trouble by cutting game Battlefield 3.Please resposed any pointers.
no mem no oc
samsung 830 256GB but structure 512GB+1TB


The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it.

Guido7142
10-05-2012, 12:02 AM
I did not understand the problem you are having.

mrwolf
10-05-2012, 11:45 AM
I too do not understand a thing you posted mr RHC..

I have some questions tho.. I found out that it is an error or mistake on MSI-afterburner that it reads my clock speed as 620mhz and that in reality it is 598 or 600mhz..
So when i OC to 720 for example it goes from 620-720.. So does this mean im running at 720mhz or 700mhz in reality??

Also does anyone here play games at 750mhz (realistically 730mhz) ?? Would it be safe to do so if the temp stays below 80...? The max i go is 720 in games and only bench at 750...

Fanty
10-05-2012, 12:03 PM
Hmm. I know what you mean Wolf.
The official clocks of 670M are 598Mhz and 1500Mhz
So the numbers read on the NVidia homepage.

MSI Afterburner claims the default clock at 620Mhz. Wich is kind of strange.
BUT now watch out:

The Driver says:
Systeminfo, GPU clock 620Mhz too

What does it say with someone who never installed Afterburner? Does afterburner OC from 598 to 620 by pure installation or is this some different kind of error?

bignazpwns
10-05-2012, 04:22 PM
Note the 598 is what Nvidia recommended as the clock. Manufacturers will clock them to their specs this is usually explained by the * after the clock when looking up the specs online.

c_man
10-05-2012, 05:39 PM
Well, ALL programs report 620 so we should use that. Is not just Afterburner. I do not use Afterburner anyway.

I've played games at 755/1650 with no problems and just few degrees more. Room temp +30C. But remember that not all GPUs are the same. Also, don't OC unless you need it. No need to push the card.

My GPU tops at 800Mhz. Some people here use it at 810Mhz. SO I feel mine is OK at ~750.

mrwolf
10-05-2012, 05:44 PM
cool thanks c_man.. Currently i play most games with maxed out settings at 720/1650 and ther isnt really much diff in temp so if i need the extra horsepower i will use 755/1650 :)

Also about the 598 and 620 thing.. Do you think that maybe asus has modified our cards slightly ? So we get 3gb memory and 620mhz clock speed...?

c_man
10-05-2012, 05:51 PM
No, this seems to be some sort of Nvidia bug. I don't think it's that important.

bignazpwns
10-05-2012, 06:46 PM
No, this seems to be some sort of Nvidia bug. I don't think it's that important.

Its not a bug the cards come clocked in at 620mhz. The stock Asus bios on the GTX 670m i got is set for 620mhz.

Now i can not comment on what version of the GT75 the card i have came from and if some are clocked at 589 from the factory but the one i have pulled from a new G75 has a bios with the clock set for 620 and this was a unflashed or modded card.

Also in my main system i got a GTX 680m that came with it that was clocked at the stock 620 and when i added a Alienware GTX 680m for SLI it had a stock clock of 719mhz. Point is clocks vary from oem to oem. And some even vary from series to series

c_man
10-05-2012, 08:58 PM
I can't find the link right now. There is no performance difference between reported 620 and 598Mhz. IF you can find one, just test it and you'll see. And you get exactly the same reports from GT70.

Normal 680M should be at least 720. Some have more, but with those you can see different values reported.

A 680M at 620 is underclocked, question is why?

bignazpwns
10-05-2012, 11:24 PM
I can't find the link right now. There is no performance difference between reported 620 and 598Mhz. IF you can find one, just test it and you'll see. And you get exactly the same reports from GT70. A 680M at 620 is underclocked, question is why?

Normal 680M should be at least 720. Some have more, but with those you can see different values reported.


Synthetic benches yes. Gaming no diff at all. I did some runs 20 to be exact of each clock and the avrage was pretty low. I mean your only talking 22mhz so the performance gain is extremely low. Fermi's are like keplers. They dont start to show their teeth until a point then the gains are pretty big.


Now the reasont hey do underclock a GTX 680m is for heat, and some times when they SLI they will underclock them for power reason "Reason why the dual gpu nvidia cards all come underclocked" The decision to underclock it was all on the oem. Performance was not impacted to much in real world stuff like games. But the card does overclock very well.


OEM's dont always do the smartest things. And yes Asus is right up there with doing some of the bone head stuff but i haven't had anything from them that was to bad. And a lot of people wont hang them for a every 20mhz on the core. Now MSI on the other hand i got a GTX 660ti for a desktop i was testing that has a issue with the card getting over volted so much it was not even funny. It was to the point where it was stressing a very high end water cooling system and the gpu temps were very high 90c + under water. This was a problem with the card using a non reference pcb and msi engineers overlooked something that sticks out like a sore thumb and will kill the card. But Asus so far has been pretty good from a engineering stand point on stuff so i mean it could be worse

Einari33
12-09-2012, 05:13 PM
Is it really safe to oc laptop hardware that much ? I got G75VW and I've noticed some performance drop lately to run some games and I'd like to boost them up a little bit. But only if it's safe.

mrwolf
12-09-2012, 05:27 PM
It is perfectly safe as long as you monitor the temperatures and do not exceed a certain limit (in our case that is 750/1650 and max safe temp at 75degrees)

Royalm
01-31-2013, 06:35 PM
How do i do it, just downloanded the evga. and do I just adujust it to 700 1650 ?? and aply ?? what about power target ? :p

Guido7142
01-31-2013, 06:37 PM
You can not control power target in notebooks.

Royalm
01-31-2013, 07:02 PM
okay =) so the only thing i do is to change it to 700 1650 and aply ? =)

davidsavenberg
01-31-2013, 07:32 PM
I am using MSI afterburner with 765mhz core and 1750mhz memory. Works great and makes a BIG differens in the performande needy games. At the most it has been up to 73c and that was for about an hour or two playing bf3.

Royalm
01-31-2013, 07:46 PM
cool Then I will try that one =) how hot can it be before its a problem ?

mrwolf
01-31-2013, 07:49 PM
Over 80 is bad.. Ideally u want it at 75 max..

Also make sure to look out for artefacts/visual anomalies.. This signifies that your GFX card cannot handle the high clock and memory speeds..

Royalm
01-31-2013, 07:58 PM
okay, i will try 700 1650 first. But do you think its safe to go higher mrwolf ??

Kawazu
01-31-2013, 08:22 PM
To say that 85c is "max safe operation temp" is a bit wrong in my eyes.

For exampel.
Atm i have 23c in the room i am in atm and when i load the GPU at 100% in furmark i get 81-82c on the GPU after 5min.

Are you guys serious about 85c? If so Asus made a big mistake in the cooling due to a 4c safe range.
In summertime i will have about 5-8c more in the same room thx to the sun an all so i will probably go over 85c.

When i clock the card to 750/1650 i reach 85-86 within 5min of furmark.

So the max safe temp at 85c just sounds like bull**** to me, as long as there are no lockups or artifacts when you play there should not be any problem when you cant even change the voltage of the GPU.

If the 85c temp should be the safe range then Asus will get back ALOT of laptops due to most of them will reach that temp when they get 100% used.

xperiaplayerpro
01-31-2013, 10:28 PM
im getting great oc of CC 165 MC 1750 and now going to use the intell cpu overclock to se what i can squeeze out of my g75 gtx670m cant wait i will p date when done with 3dmark 11 score

update: p3149 no oc
:p3819 cpu oc gpu oc
now I'm going to run farcry 3 at max settings and test fps with no oc and full oc

mrwolf
01-31-2013, 11:48 PM
okay, i will try 700 1650 first. But do you think its safe to go higher mrwolf ??

Yes indeed, it is perfectly safe.. But every gfx card is different.. So the best thing to do is leave the memory clock at 1650 and increase the core clock from 700 up to 750 in increments of 20. (eg. 720 - 740 - 750) At each increment you should run Uniengine Heaven benchmark and look for artifacts as it seems to be particularly good at bringing up artefacts lol.. If u do notice any visual anomalies than u know u have gone past the max OC..

Secondly make sure temps dont go over 75, sometimes i hit 77 or 78 but then i open my window or something and it will go down..

Jus follow the rules, do it carefully and you shouldnt have any issues :)

Kawazu
02-01-2013, 11:52 AM
Yes indeed, it is perfectly safe.. But every gfx card is different.. So the best thing to do is leave the memory clock at 1650 and increase the core clock from 700 up to 750 in increments of 20. (eg. 720 - 740 - 750) At each increment you should run Uniengine Heaven benchmark and look for artifacts as it seems to be particularly good at bringing up artefacts lol.. If u do notice any visual anomalies than u know u have gone past the max OC..

Secondly make sure temps dont go over 75, sometimes i hit 77 or 78 but then i open my window or something and it will go down..

Jus follow the rules, do it carefully and you shouldnt have any issues :)


You cant even hold that temp with the original frequency at a 100% GPU load.
Try Furmark for 5min with original frequency and come back with the temperatures you get.

I would say anything below 90c is safe as the original cooling keeps you just below 85c with a 100% GPU load.

Kawazu
02-01-2013, 12:55 PM
Made a smal test again today.
Ran the 15min burnin test with the stock speed and the OC speed

The stock speed gave me a 89c after 15min
The OC speed gave me a whooping 97c after 15min

So i made a smal experiment by removing the big cover under the computer ( where the gpu is ) and tried the same test again with the OC speed and this time i got 80c after 15min of load and 75c after 15min of load if i placed items under the computer so it would get up of the table.

The air intake of the cooling on this computer is just ****ing poor, there are almost no air intakes under the computer for the fan to use. Asus sure dosent know **** when it comes to cooling.
The best thing for us users to do is to drill loads of holes in the big plastig and the smal ( for the cpu ) so the air can go straight into the cooler and not around the whole computer before it hits the fans.

As the design is now the air for the GPU will take the way past the GPU itself before it goes to the fan that is cooling it.
There could be a positive thing about this just becouse the cool air is hitting the GPU itself before it hits the actual fan and i do not know where the temperature is measured, it could be at the core or a diod placed on the heatsink.

All i know is that the backplate should have been made very different for both the CPU and the GPU.

xperiaplayerpro
02-02-2013, 07:43 PM
just posted this in latest gtx 670 overclock thread..... i have g75vw gtx 670m i use msi afterburner for my gpu oc and intel extrem tuner for my cpu oc no i can run my gpu oc at
core clock:770
mem clock: 1650 (can go higher but doesnt make any fps differance just a lot of extra heat)
cpu referance clock: 106.0041 this puts max NON turbo boost cpu speed to: 2.438 from 2.300 and max turbo boost cpu speed to: 3.498
this makes a nice differance playing games at extra quility possible eg witcher II all on max apart from ubersampleing max min fps is 30 to 40 max temp of gpu is 79c not bad hey with no oc it plays at (same settings) arround min max fps 22 to 30 ish gpu temps of 70 to 75.

Kawazu
02-02-2013, 07:58 PM
How high temps do you get when you run furmark?

Dreamonic
02-02-2013, 08:16 PM
You do know these are normal temperatures from running Furmark, right? If you need to check stability on your clocks use GAMES to do this, as your screen will either shut off, have system locks up or produce visual anomalies.

I don't recommend running Furmark, especially on a laptop for any extended period of time. Having your temperatures sky rocket (instead of gradually rise) and cool down quickly is what degrades your thermal grease efficiency, let alone puts added heat strain on other parts in other areas of the cards components, if this process is repeated continually for personal comfort...

Games will not replicate Furmark temperatures.... ever!

xperiaplayerpro
02-02-2013, 10:01 PM
I agree its much better to use a game with fraps or msi afterburner showing temp and fps. If you start getting tares rips on screen then alt tab out and turn it down a bit. Yup can gain a lot higher oc using furmark,3dmark 11 but not playable in game

Kawazu
03-05-2013, 06:57 PM
Just wanted to share my 3d mark 11 score with you guys, need 38 points to get to 4000, just cant get past it :(

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6112831

xperiaplayerpro
03-05-2013, 08:57 PM
Very nice cant you squeese any more oc from the cpu i dont think that your gona get the gpu any higjer

Kawazu
03-05-2013, 09:11 PM
Very nice cant you squeese any more oc from the cpu i dont think that your gona get the gpu any higjer

How exactly do ppl overclock the cpu of the G75VW?

xperiaplayerpro
03-05-2013, 09:30 PM
Ar i will let u know then get hold of intel xtreme utillity and use that to oc cpu only 1 function Available. Just to let u know that i found oc'ing cpu slows down fps while gaming by 2to4 fps but in benchies gives u much better score a d u will break that 4000 point mark i wouldnt go any higher than plus 6 you will see what i mean once u have installed it hope that helps:-)

bignazpwns
03-06-2013, 08:04 AM
How exactly do ppl overclock the cpu of the G75VW?

Cant unless you have a i7 37XX or higher. And even then it is only a 400mhz oc. With a i7 3630qm or 3610gm best you can do is a 5mhz increase in the Blck.

Best is to just download throttle stop and force the cpu to run the whole time at the turbo multi.

Filera
03-11-2013, 11:38 PM
I got interested in overclocking my own 670M and ran Unigine Heaven. I can't remember my clocks, but MAX FPS went from 48.4 to 54.1 :)

It might do better, but since I'm new to overclocking, I don't dare to push it.

xperiaplayerpro
03-12-2013, 12:04 AM
Ive got the 3610qm and i can oc it + 400mhz not much but good for benchies

SpasTaz0917
09-02-2013, 11:24 AM
not to beat a dead horse or anything...

OC: 780/1750
here is my score in 3DMark11: P3946 (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7102468)

when I overclocked the CPU 3630QM to 2.5Ghz the scores went sh"t! only got 3722 or something.

didn't want to go higher on OC'in the GPU since I think I've done a bad job of repasting one of the VRM's since one of them get 80+Celcius while the other one gets only 60 or 70celcius