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DjTyrant
10-07-2012, 01:24 AM
Hey guys,

I am having issues with my laptop, Asus g74sx.

It came pre loaded with win 7 home premium and all the usual Asus stuff. I currently use the laptop for work as well as games.

The issues started to arise when I had to wipe home premium and install win 7 ultimate 64bit because of some of the restrictions the home version has.

It all went well initially, did a clean install of win7 ultimate, downloaded some of the necessary Asus software such as the ATK package, and a couple of others. I used driver genius to find and install the rest of the drivers.

That was a couple of weeks ago, and now it is starting to play up. Very slow response time when I am opening programs, tool bars containing groups of shortcuts are not loaded correctly, not recognizing inserted usb devices, taking a long time to log in - not start up, but after it gets to the welcome screen actually logging in, even when I right click on an item there is a 10-15 second delay before the menu pops up.

I thought it may be the drivers or something so I have downloaded the appropriate drivers from the Asus web site and installed and it made no difference. I am just about at the point where I wipe the whole lot and start from scratch, but this is the 2nd or 3rd time this has happened to me, and I am hesitant to do it again for fear of repeat in issues.

Specs are as follows:

Asus G74sx
Win 7 Ultimate
16 Gb Ram
GTX560 3gb
SSD as primary, 500 gb HD as secondary

Really hope someone can help. :)

Cheers

dstrakele
10-07-2012, 02:44 AM
What WiFi driver version are you currently running?

What Antivirus software have you installed?

Did you recently install the Malicious Software Update from Windows Update?

DjTyrant
10-07-2012, 02:55 AM
What WiFi driver version are you currently running?

What Antivirus software have you installed?

Did you recently install the Malicious Software Update from Windows Update?


Intel WiFi Wireless LAN Driver V15.0.1.1 (the newest one from the asus site)

I use Microsoft Security Essentials

Probably, I install all updates from Microsoft. (Is that bad?)

dstrakele
10-07-2012, 03:16 AM
The Malicious Software Update typically runs a scan at startup after installation that can slow down your system. It can take awhile, but once completed, it shouldn't cause any more delays.

Early version Atheros WiFi driver versions caused severe lag on G74SX systems, but you have the Intel WiFi. Windows Security Essentials should not pose any problems.

You could check for DPC Latency with DPC Latency Checker.

You are saying your system runs normally for a couple weeks after Win 7 installation, correct? If you use Windows System Restore to restore your system to that earlier time, is the lag eliminated?

DjTyrant
10-07-2012, 03:32 AM
The Malicious Software Update typically runs a scan at startup after installation that can slow down your system. It can take awhile, but once completed, it shouldn't cause any more delays.

Early version Atheros WiFi driver versions caused severe lag on G74SX systems, but you have the Intel WiFi. Windows Security Essentials should not pose any problems.

You could check for DPC Latency with DPC Latency Checker.

You are saying your system runs normally for a couple weeks after Win 7 installation, correct?

Yeah runs great. I spoke to someone else about it, they reckon it could be drivers. I use driver genius to update my drivers. I am now doing a clean install, downloading the drivers manually from Asus. Hopefully that helps...

Will run DPC Latency Checker now.

dstrakele
10-07-2012, 03:48 AM
It sounds like something is being installed later that causes the performance hit.

I recommend configuring Windows Update to allow you to choose which updates to install. Then do your updating slowly and test thoroughly.

Choose NOT to install the Malicious Software Checker Update. Microsoft Security Essentials will have you covered as long as you update the Definition File.

Choose the drivers you install to your system rather than using Driver Genius. There's only 10 or so you need to worry about.

DjTyrant
10-07-2012, 05:38 AM
Yeah I'm trying that now. I would have thought reputed driver updating programs wouldn't **** me over tho...

dstrakele
10-07-2012, 12:06 PM
From reading threads on this forum and from my own experience, I've found the Windows 7 driver stack to be quite fragile, particularly with the video driver. I always install drivers one at a time from Windows Safe Mode (to disable 3rd party drivers that may interfere with the installation) if possible and never allow any automatic updates.

I always perform a 'clean' NVIDIA install to completely remove the previous video driver. For other drivers, I uninstall the previous version from Control Panel (if possible) and reboot prior to installing the new version. I run the SETUP.EXE from the installation file set (if one is provided) rather than just replace the driver from Device Manager.

I create Windows System Restore Points of stable system configurations as well as backups of stable Windows System Images, so I always can quickly and completely undo the installation of a bad driver or update.

DjTyrant
10-07-2012, 12:54 PM
wow talk about precautions! So I have spent all day reinstalling and setting up my laptop. Carefully downloaded each driver manually, restarted after each one, and now it's running awesome. Fingers crossed it lasts for more than a couple of weeks.....maybe I should stop looking up all that horse porn...



btw am I going to have to type that captcha code in each time I post? Annoying as piss

dstrakele
10-07-2012, 01:08 PM
Use Windows Backup & Restore to backup your stable Windows System Image at this point.

Once you make enough posts the captcha code requirement will be lifted. It's to discourage spammers from posting on the site.

DjTyrant
10-08-2012, 07:42 AM
See I knew it. Went to all that effort taking so much care manually installing drivers, restarting after each, only to have it not even 8 hours later freezing every 10 mins needing to be power reset...wtf

dstrakele
10-08-2012, 09:51 AM
I'd recommend running memtest86+ on memory stick pairs for 3 passes each to confirm your laptop's memory is sound.

If that succeeds, I'd be suspicious of your SSD and would confirm you're running the latest firmware version.

How long have you owned this laptop? Was the SSD an upgrade or original equipment?

DjTyrant
10-12-2012, 09:27 PM
Owned for under a year, and I bought it with the SSD. What do you mean latest firmware version? For what?

Ran memtest, no errors.

DjTyrant
10-12-2012, 09:29 PM
I think I just worked it out...started using another mouse and the freezing has stopped. Will do more testing...

dstrakele
10-12-2012, 11:59 PM
When you use the USB Mouse do you disable the touchpad?

What touchpad driver version are you currently running?