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10-08-2012, 10:12 AM
This is an early heads up prior to our official announcement. We've been under Nvidia NDA until the GTX 670MX launched last week, but now we're still under ASUS NDA (which I'm breaking.. but with good reason imo) so please understand I can't really answer more questions.

For those who are contemplating a G75VW now, please take this info to help your buying decision: whether you want to buy a G75 now because it suits your needs and you need one now, or, wait for the G75VX and it's slight upgrades. Official announcement is about a month away, but depending on how long the G75 took to get to your region after that was announced, use that as a guide as to when you'll see the VX.

All I can say now is that the G75VX will feature the GTX 670MX (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-670mx/specifications) (Google the performance relative to GTX 670M and see if it matters to you) and maybe you want to see here (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?23435-G75VX-T4020H-i7-3630QM-GTX670MX-3GB) for another idea of what to expect, but I will stress to ignore any illusion of pricing you see until it's all properly confirmed.

However believe it or not we've still managed to keep a couple of other supplementary hardware upgrades secret, and for that you'll have to wait til later (or I really will lose my job). :D

john_from_ohio
10-08-2012, 12:21 PM
Let me guess ... thunderbolt actually installed this time ...

Myk SilentShadow
10-08-2012, 12:29 PM
Let me guess ... thunderbolt actually installed this time ...

That was confirmed a while ago mate :p

mrwolf
10-08-2012, 12:37 PM
Marshal, is there anyway us G75-VW owners can send in our current systems in for an upgrade to the gtx 670MX ?? Im willing to pay well ;)

GrecoISU
10-08-2012, 01:06 PM
Ah, this puts me in a predicament... I had my G71 insured for accidents and it broke to a point of replacement (still functioning in a limited fashion right now). I was ready to put in an order today for the Newegg version of the G75 (G75VW-NS71). I'm not asking for solid prices but is it going to be significantly higher than the $1400 price mark Newegg has? I'll accept predictions because I'm sure most of you know more than I would.

SHDZ
10-08-2012, 01:20 PM
I have cheked the performance of the gtx 670mx. Its about 17% faster. I want the gtx 680m inside the g75 and g55 !!!!!!!

john_from_ohio
10-08-2012, 01:23 PM
I'll accept predictions because I'm sure most of you know more than I would.

If Marshall is hinting on this right now ... has to be right around the corner.

Windows 8 is also releasing "soon" ... guessing that a refresh of both the machines and operating system installed is out real soon ...

Nobody in the laptop manufacturing sector is able to increase prices ... well except apple maybe ...

_
10-08-2012, 01:49 PM
Marshal, is there anyway us G75-VW owners can send in our current systems in for an upgrade to the gtx 670MX ?? Im willing to pay well ;)

Unfortunately not sorry. As you know the next best thing is always around the corner. Such is the ever progression technology.

Yes the machines will be shipped with Win 8. As will the 14" due and G55s. All notebooks will get an upgrade as Microsoft will simply stop selling 7 in favor of 8 to OEMs like us. So likewise, if you really only want Windows 7, buy THIS month.

We've covered the GTX 680M extensively in other threads. It is about twice the TDP and several times the price. The entire G75 chassis would need to be redesigned into a much thicker and more expensive desktop replacement. It's an absolute physical impossibility to have a GTX 680 in a G55 chassis without melting the desk underneath it.

GrecoISU - I simply don't know sorry. I have no access to our sales channel, only the launch and promotional plans. Until it's officially announced I cannot even ask sorry.

AlanMcKinnon
10-08-2012, 02:04 PM
Woof. Seems I always have poor timing when buying computers.

Shawnnepc
10-08-2012, 05:38 PM
I'm telling!

:P

bignazpwns
10-08-2012, 05:45 PM
The GTX 670MX destroys the GTX 670m. 960 shaders and can overclock to match a GTX 680m at stock clocks pretty easy. Great bang for the buck gpu.

noneone
10-08-2012, 11:09 PM
This is an early heads up prior to our official announcement.

Hi Marshall!

I wanted to say thanks for the heads up, I really appreciate it. I have been in the "should I buy now and what should I buy" spot for a couple of weeks. I do want the kepler architecture. I also really like the Asus G platform. Sticking with the kepler, the performance jump from 660m to 680m seemed huge, and was leaning me towards other notebooks with the 680m. I still may not be able to wait to purchase a machine, but, at least now I know if I DO wait, I can get an Asus G with the 670MX, a kepler chip much faster than the 660m. It is nice to know Asus does plan to make this change, as the other option was to wait for a G76 modified to take a 680M, and, I knew THAT I couldn't wait for. :)

Thanks again!

Zygomorphic
10-09-2012, 12:51 AM
@MarshallR, please leak so that one of us can have your job...;) I nominate @xero for it...:D

Cloudfire
10-09-2012, 02:25 AM
We've covered the GTX 680M extensively in other threads. It is about twice the TDP and several times the price. The entire G75 chassis would need to be redesigned into a much thicker and more expensive desktop replacement. It's an absolute physical impossibility to have a GTX 680 in a G55 chassis without melting the desk underneath it.

GrecoISU - I simply don't know sorry. I have no access to our sales channel, only the launch and promotional plans. Until it's officially announced I cannot even ask sorry.

Do your company an extremely good favour: Also include the GTX 675MX.

It have the same amount of cores and they are clocked the same. You either get 1GB less GDDR5 or 1GB extra. But the only difference between 670MX and 675MX is the memory bus. 192bit for 670MX and 256bit for 675MX. Same TDP.
That makes a ton of difference. (Click here (http://www.geforce.com/Active/en_US/shared/images/products/shared/600m-lineup.png))

The two GPUs use the same power, they are equally hot so no need for change of design. The price difference between the two are $100. Not enough to scare people away. And you get a huge performance gain since Nvidia have crippled the 670MX a bit with the 192bit bus. And Asus don`t have to overclock the base specifications of the memory like you have done with 560M/660M (which usually leads to a little bit more heat).

Like you said you have discussed the 680M with a lot of people which means there are big interests in a hardcore GPU.

Trust me on this, I`m an active user in a lot of forums, especially notebook forums. I know you get a lot more customers with a small $100 risk. Even the 670M users, G75, will be interested in it. Meaning they might switch out the notebooks for a new one. You haven`t officially announced the new model(s) yet so there is time to change plans.

Time for Asus to do the right thing. Its time to step up the game a bit.

Signed,
Cloudfire ;)

SHDZ
10-09-2012, 07:40 AM
"Originally Posted by MarshallR@ASUS"
"We've covered the GTX 680M extensively in other threads. It is about twice the TDP and several times the price. The entire G75 chassis would need to be redesigned into a much thicker and more expensive desktop replacement. It's an absolute physical impossibility to have a GTX 680 in a G55 chassis without melting the desk underneath it."


Ok I can understand that, but why do you consider the GTX 670MX, you should at least offer the option to get the G75VX or G55VX (I hope you are working on that as well) with the faster GTX 675MX.

Compared to the GTX 660M of the present G55VW the GTX 675MX would have about 50% better performance which would be quite an improvement.

In case you offer a G55VX with the GTX 675MX, I will buy it.

And I guess Im not the only one.

Best regards

_
10-09-2012, 07:56 AM
We are not working on a G55VX sorry, the GPU design would simply not fit in the G55 chassis, even if it could make the power/thermal requirements.

chrsplmr
10-09-2012, 12:01 PM
@MarshallR, please leak so that one of us can have your job...;) I nominate @xero for it...:D

hahhahhahah .. Zy, Zy, Zy ... get another coffee bro.


...without melting the desk underneath it.

Now THAT would be a Gamer ... realROGs would finish the level ... I can see it now....
with a gleaming grin.c.

Cloudfire
10-09-2012, 02:14 PM
We are not working on a G55VX sorry, the GPU design would simply not fit in the G55 chassis, even if it could make the power/thermal requirements.

But you better step up your game and include 675MX with the G75VX.
There is absolutely no reason to NOT include it. With Kepler, Nvidia brought the GPUs down to a reasonable heat/performance ratio, hence why you see very slim notebooks with GT650M, the power that was usually for big bulky 15" or 17" with the hot Fermi architecture.

I know the market, I know the demands. I know the hardware. I`ve talked to the customers. 670MX will be a kinda "Meh" improvement over the 670M, 675MX will be big news. Not only will you have a +35-40% over the 670M, it will be cooler, you will have a 256bit memory bus to accomodate overclocking, the 192bit bus in the 670MX will bottleneck most of that process.
And to top it off, Asus will step up to the high high end GPUs.

If you don`t bring this huge opportunity to your HQ, you and Asus is wasting what could profit your company greatly in my opinion.

SHDZ
10-09-2012, 03:35 PM
Dear MarshallR,

in this case there must have been a so called "Freudscher Versprecher" how we say in Germany, a "Freudian slip" in your threat "G55VW Gaming Performance in Nvidia 3D Vision & Full HD". There you mentioned the G55VX already. :)

Whatever in case Asus will not implement a GPU which can meet the wishes of the customers, which is at least close to the state of the art, Asus will lose potential clients.

ROG - Republic of Gamers, should not be an empty name. It is as well a duty to provide the possible at least as an option for a higher price.

Of cause thats just my opinion.

Best wishes

Shawnnepc
10-09-2012, 03:51 PM
Dear MarshallR,

in this case there must have been a so called "Freudscher Versprecher" how we say in Germany, a "Freudian slip" in your threat "G55VW Gaming Performance in Nvidia 3D Vision & Full HD". There you mentioned the G55VX already. :)

Whatever in case Asus will not implement a GPU which can meet the wishes of the customers, which is at least close to the state of the art, Asus will lose potential clients.

“ROG” - Republic of Gamers, should not be an empty name. It is as well a duty to provide the possible at least as an option for a higher price.

Of cause that’s just my opinion.

Best wishes


It has worked fine for them so far.

ASUS now has all potential markets covered :

Ultra small form factor with the 14in G series

15.6in G 55 Series

17.3 in G75 series

ASUS wants to keep their units portable which is why they're using the 660,670,670MX. The 675MX would require the larger PSU (200 watt + ) and removes the portability from the picture.

We also sell Alienware and Clevo that have the 680m and I wouldn't consider either unit as portable. (300watt PSU, about double the physical size of the G series PSU) At that point it makes little sense to deal with a laptop and you're better off with a desktop

If I get some time i'll snap some photos of the PSU just to give everyone some perspective.

c_man
10-09-2012, 03:57 PM
There is absolutely no reason to NOT include it. With Kepler, Nvidia brought the GPUs down to a reasonable heat/performance ratio, hence why you see very slim notebooks with GT650M, the power that was usually for big bulky 15" or 17" with the hot Fermi architecture.

Yeah, but I have a very bad experience with these 640/650M slim (more or less) laptops. Hot as crazy, can't keep performance for long, will shut down. They look amazing on paper, I give you that.

I would want laptops to be really laptops, not legs burning machines with great specs, but unusable.

I agree that 675MX would be a huge thing for Asus on gaming market since a lot of people want to buy an Asus, but the performance is not quite top notch.

My G75 with 670M is just fine performance wise and I will keep it for at least 1 year. Other things matter more and I think Asus should fix those first.

Cloudfire
10-09-2012, 04:39 PM
We also sell Alienware and Clevo that have the 680m and I wouldn't consider either unit as portable. (300watt PSU, about double the physical size of the G series PSU) At that point it makes little sense to deal with a laptop and you're better off with a desktop

If I get some time i'll snap some photos of the PSU just to give everyone some perspective.

Your PSU data is wrong. It is nowhere 300W, and the power requirements between 670M and 680M are pretty much identical.

Alienware M17x R4 (680M): 240W
Sager 9150EM (680M): 180W
Sager 9170EM (680M): 180W
MSI GT70 (680M): 180W
Asus G75 (670M): 180w
Asus G55 (660M): 150W


I agree that 675MX would be a huge thing for Asus on gaming market since a lot of people want to buy an Asus, but the performance is not quite top notch.


Yes I think pretty much everyone would agree that a 675MX would be the only right move from Asus. Well, they could make two hardware systems, one with 670MX and one with 675MX.

Shawnnepc
10-09-2012, 06:47 PM
Your PSU data is wrong. It is nowhere 300W, and the power requirements between 670M and 680M are pretty much identical.

Alienware M17x R4 (680M): 240W
Sager 9150EM (680M): 180W
Sager 9170EM (680M): 180W
MSI GT70 (680M): 180W
Asus G75 (670M): 180w
Asus G55 (660M): 150W



Yes I think pretty much everyone would agree that a 675MX would be the only right move from Asus. Well, they could make two hardware systems, one with 670MX and one with 675MX.


Yeah I double checked that and you are correct.

It might be a price point issue then.

Mr Flibble
10-09-2012, 07:41 PM
We must wait for g75vz to have 675mx on board :D

AlanMcKinnon
10-09-2012, 08:03 PM
So if my G75VW is still within warranty period to be able to be returned for refund, should I get it refunded and wait for the VX?

Is the jump between the 670m and the 670MX that significant?

Cloudfire
10-09-2012, 09:22 PM
So if my G75VW is still within warranty period to be able to be returned for refund, should I get it refunded and wait for the VX?

Is the jump between the 670m and the 670MX that significant?

670MX will be around 18% (estimation from me since no numbers exist yet) faster than 670M. 670MX will run much cooler than 670M. 670M is an overclocked 570M, meaning you can`t overclock it so much. 670MX have a huge overclocking potential.

675MX is probably 35%-40% faster than 670M, pretty much identical with the heat of the 670MX and have much better overclocking potential than 670MX due to the fact it have wider memory bus, which again means it can deal with the data much better than the 670MX.

Here are some 675MX numbers if you want to see for yourself
http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php/295409-%E5%85%A8%E7%90%83%E9%A6%96%E7%99%BC%EF%BC%8CMSI-GT60%E6%90%AD%E8%BC%89%E6%9C%80%E6%96%B0NVIDIA-GTX675MX%E9%A1%AF%E7%A4%BA%E5%8D%A1%E6%B8%AC%E8%A9 %A6%E7%99%BC%E8%A1%A8

bignazpwns
10-09-2012, 10:29 PM
670MX will be around 18% (estimation from me since no numbers exist yet) faster than 670M. 670MX will run much cooler than 670M. 670M is an overclocked 570M, meaning you can`t overclock it so much. 670MX have a huge overclocking potential.

675MX is probably 35%-40% faster than 670M, pretty much identical with the heat of the 670MX and have much better overclocking potential than 670MX due to the fact it have wider memory bus, which again means it can deal with the data much better than the 670MX.

Here are some 675MX numbers if you want to see for yourself
http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php/295409-%E5%85%A8%E7%90%83%E9%A6%96%E7%99%BC%EF%BC%8CMSI-GT60%E6%90%AD%E8%BC%89%E6%9C%80%E6%96%B0NVIDIA-GTX675MX%E9%A1%AF%E7%A4%BA%E5%8D%A1%E6%B8%AC%E8%A9 %A6%E7%99%BC%E8%A1%A8


Are you seriously saying that the memory interface size has a effect on the overclocking potential of a gpu?


Ok flat out Kepler overclocks higher then fermi every time. I got a GTX 660m that pulls 1,350 on the core every day show me a GTX 670m that can do that. My GTX 670MX pulls right now 1,225 on the core and i can tell you at this clock the GTX 670mx pounds the 670m into the ground and beats it to a bloody pulp and i got the same numbers as a stock GTX 680m with that MX overclocked. That being said this card should have more overclocking headroom and i think the early drivers are affecting it because they are kind of crappy.

So lets explain gpu memory interfaces for 40,000.000 time.

GPU memory interfaces allow the GPU to address more memory per cycle. Now memory runs at its own speed so to get bandwidth you need to mix the right mix of speed and interface. Example 128bit interface with some really high clocked fast ram is about equal to 256bit with slower clocked ram. The memory interface has nothing to do what so ever with how high you can clock your gpu.

Now the reason why my GTX 660m "128bit" beats GTX 670m's "192bit" Is from my core being so high, My memory being so high and the memory timings on my 660m.

Cloudfire
10-09-2012, 11:23 PM
Memory bus have an EXTREMELY impact on overclocking potential.
There is a limit on how high you can overclock your GDDR5, which means there is a limit on how high memory bandwidth you can have, which means there is a limit on how much information you can process at a certain GPU clock.

Stock clocks the 670MX have a memory bandwidth of 67GB/s. 675MX 115.2GB/s. Both running @ 900MHz. Already here the 675MX have a HUGE lead. I`ve overclocked the 680M myself, I can get the memory up to 1200MHz-ish.
Increased memory speed means higher heat means more wear on the memory means possible unstability.

You can already see yourself today that Nvidia have crippled the 670MX with 192bit bus. Why? Because already at stock clocks, the 675MX is beating the 670MX by 20%! Thats with the exact same GPU clock...

You could overclock the memory on the 670MX to reach 675MX stock scores, but you can overclock the memory on the 675MX to allow better scores again when overclocking the cores. 670MX would be hindered by the small memory bus when overclocking high. The GPU wants to process as much as possible, memory does not allow that.

As for your 670MX (do you already own it?) reaching stock 680M scores, I call BS on that. You would have to overclock the cores and the memory by a huge number to accomplish that.1200MHz? LOL yeah right. Bull. Not to mention that you probably need a custom VBIOS with higher voltage.

Post your screenshots. Prove me wrong. I call you out :)
(PS: Don`t post "Performance" scores of 3Dmark11 or Vantage. Post "Extreme" preset scores where you will see the memory bandwidth come to play) ;)

WontonNoodle
10-10-2012, 01:00 AM
I hope the price is reasonable! May sell my G55 and pick up a G75VX... G55 performance is a little underwhelming :(

noneone
10-10-2012, 04:52 AM
But you better step up your game and include 675MX with the G75VX.
There is absolutely no reason to NOT include it.

The 680M won't fit in the G75. Won't fit. The 675MX is an underclocked 680m. Thererefore, the 675mx won't fit in the G75. Won't fit is won't fit.

Asus ROG is NOT about having the heaviest, hotest, loudest, highest performance notebook you can have. If you want MOST powerful, and hot, and loud and heavy, go elsewhere. Asus G75 is about bring portable gaming to the masses. $1150 G75-BBK opens up a much, MUCH wider market, and makes portable gaming accessable to way more folks than $2000 680M from another market. Many customers want cheap. Many customers want truly portable gaming. Running around airports with a 680M heavy beast is a PITA. G75? much nicer.

SO, what does the customer need to give up for cool, cheap, and light? What games will the enthusiastic G75 owner have to give up at highest detail in order to get cheap, cool and light?

NOT so many games, 3 maybe, at ultra settings in 2012? with the 670MX none at current time? Is there ANY game the 680m can do at ultra the 670MX can't do?

I want cheap and light. Asus has that. Now, if I was really into high quality gaming maybe I would like at an MSI with a 680M and a 3D screen ... oh snap, Asus has 3d screen, MSI doesn't.

Stop with the "Asus doesn't have close to state of the art". Go look at the performance specs of the 670mx, its still going to be one of the top 4 available cards, yes, not top 2, but, seems pretty close to state of the art.

DeltaActual
10-10-2012, 07:19 AM
i love all the 670/675 talk but......will it have the new, better sound system, with real working sub-woofer????

c0rp1
10-10-2012, 09:05 AM
First post in forum :) ...
When first info on the G75 hit, there was a word about the processor, so my question is will it be the old 3610 or the new 3630 one ?
Also, because I`m not completely sure about that ... is it possible to put a 675MX Graphic Card in the new g75, or its bigger than the 670mx one and wont fit?
If the 675mx fits, I would really like to see a 675mx version of the G75 hit the market before Christmas :). Hope price won`t be greater than 1800 euro though !

Thanks in advance for an answer to my questions !

SHDZ
10-10-2012, 09:07 AM
Hi noneone,

are you sure about that?

What is the GTX 670MX which got introduced to be put into the G75VX?
From the data it looks very much like the GTX 675MX with reduced bus.

Nobody is saying ASUS should build only highest end gaming Notebooks.

Asus should realize that they have created a Notebook series which has received big interest by potential buyers which are willing to pay more to get a better GPU.

Best wishes

Zygomorphic
10-10-2012, 10:16 AM
@c0rp1, welcome! Will it fit, no, because ASUS uses a custom MXM form factor. :mad: Now if they have changed...:rolleyes:

Cloudfire
10-10-2012, 03:18 PM
The 680M won't fit in the G75. Won't fit. The 675MX is an underclocked 680m. Thererefore, the 675mx won't fit in the G75. Won't fit is won't fit.

Asus ROG is NOT about having the heaviest, hotest, loudest, highest performance notebook you can have. If you want MOST powerful, and hot, and loud and heavy, go elsewhere. Asus G75 is about bring portable gaming to the masses. $1150 G75-BBK opens up a much, MUCH wider market, and makes portable gaming accessable to way more folks than $2000 680M from another market. Many customers want cheap. Many customers want truly portable gaming. Running around airports with a 680M heavy beast is a PITA. G75? much nicer.

SO, what does the customer need to give up for cool, cheap, and light? What games will the enthusiastic G75 owner have to give up at highest detail in order to get cheap, cool and light?

NOT so many games, 3 maybe, at ultra settings in 2012? with the 670MX none at current time? Is there ANY game the 680m can do at ultra the 670MX can't do?

I want cheap and light. Asus has that. Now, if I was really into high quality gaming maybe I would like at an MSI with a 680M and a 3D screen ... oh snap, Asus has 3d screen, MSI doesn't.

Stop with the "Asus doesn't have close to state of the art". Go look at the performance specs of the 670mx, its still going to be one of the top 4 available cards, yes, not top 2, but, seems pretty close to state of the art.

Seriously? wow, I don`t even know where to begin...


The 675MX is an underclocked 680m. Thererefore, the 675mx won't fit in the G75. Won't fit is won't fit.
675MX is NOT an underclocked 680M. Where on earth have you been learning about GPUs? Both are GK104, but 680M have 1344 cores, GTX 675MX have 960 cores...


Asus ROG is NOT about having the heaviest, hotest, loudest, highest performance notebook you can have
So what are you saying here, Asus can`t use the same design for the GTX 675MX? They absolutely can, because A) GTX 675MX is EQUALLY HOT as 670MX. B) 675MX is COOLER than 670M which the G75 have now and C) because of this, you won`t get any more fan noise since they can use the same firmware.


Is there ANY game the 680m can do at ultra the 670MX can't do?
Everything maxed, with acceptable framrate?
1. World of tanks V.8
2. Guild Wars 2
3. Sleeping dogs
4. Ghost Recon
5. Metro 2033
6. Battlefield 3
And probably more since I won`t bother search for more.


I want cheap and light. Asus has that. Now, if I was really into high quality gaming maybe I would like at an MSI with a 680M and a 3D screen ... oh snap, Asus has 3d screen, MSI doesn't.
This is complete nonsense. I don`t even understand why you mention 680M since we are talking about 675MX in this thread, not 680M. See my first quote.


Asus G75 is about bring portable gaming to the masses. $1150 G75-BBK opens up a much, MUCH wider market, and makes portable gaming accessable to way more folks than $2000 680M from another market
I said that Asus could still offer both 670MX and 680MX to cater for both groups, those who want a "Meh" upgrade, and those who want the real deal, 675MX. The price difference between a 670MX and a 680MX is $100, but you get 20%+ better performance than the other. Plus other things I already have mention in this thread. They can still put both of the GPUs in the same chassis that already exist, hence you still get a "portable gaming" notebook (See one of the quotes above). You probably didn`t even know that the 670MX is a GK106 while the 675MX is a GK104...
Defending Asus descision to ditch 675MX and include 670MX is stupid at best.

Everything else in your whole rant is moot, because you rant about 680M while the rest of us talk about an entire different GPU.

Shawnnepc
10-10-2012, 04:20 PM
@Cloudfire

I think your points are valid but there's pretty much no chance we'll see these GPUs in this gen.

Because ASUS decided to go with a proprietary interface for their GPUs and they will need to manufacture these cards.

There's not enough time remaining in the G75xx series production cycle to actually produce these cards.

We've often made the comment to ASUS that we would like them to go back to the generic MXM style (as they did with the G73)

We feel that this would add better value to the brand (it is ROG after all)

Hopefully we'll see this in the next G

noneone
10-10-2012, 04:55 PM
Cloudfire,

1) I think we agree the 675Mx and the 680m are based on the same chip, correct?
2) I think we agree the 670mx is based on a DIFFERENT chip, correct?
3) It has been stated many times by Asus, that the 680m won't fit in the G75. NOT just that it would be too hot. It will not fit.
4) We know for sure that the 670mx will fit, Asus in this thread indicates, the g75 will get a 670mx.

So we know, 680m will not fit, 670mx will fit, and that 680m and 675mx are based on the same chip.

So, why do you think the 675mx WILL fit?

Thanks!

Cloudfire
10-10-2012, 06:18 PM
Cloudfire,

1) I think we agree the 675Mx and the 680m are based on the same chip, correct?
Yes, same chip, different CUDA cores count.


2) I think we agree the 670mx is based on a DIFFERENT chip, correct?
Yes correct. GK106 is from the bin where Nvidia tossed all the chips that didn`t meet the requirements of the GK104. More current leakage, areas/cores not functioning etc etc so they are disabled (3 SMX disabled) and whoila, you have 960 cores. So 675MX should be a better chip think.

3) It has been stated many times by Asus, that the 680m won't fit in the G75. NOT just that it would be too hot. It will not fit.
GTX 670MX is a downclocked GTX 660. Die size is: 214mm^2
GTX 675MX is bigger. Die size: 294mm^2.
Yes its bigger, but they could easily make a new heatsink that aligns perfectly with the die without increasing the size of heatsink itself I think? MSI and Clevo have 15" notebooks with GTX 680M. They manage to get room for it. Die size doesn`t go up in height, it goes out to the sides. The G75 chassis is HUGE compared to the 15". I don`t understand that it won`t fit.


4) We know for sure that the 670mx will fit, Asus in this thread indicates, the g75 will get a 670mx.
So we know, 680m will not fit, 670mx will fit, and that 680m and 675mx are based on the same chip.
Continuing the above, I think the reason why they won`t include the 680M is because of the heat and the cost. Which is a fair point, and I`m not trying to argue that they should include it either. About the 675MX I think it comes more down to making a new heatsink that works with it. Asus have been more of a "one type of GPUs" deal. I think they should break that one with this opportunity. After all its 1 month until they reveal it. Lots of time to get some copper and start grinding it down :)

Cloudfire
10-10-2012, 06:23 PM
@Cloudfire

I think your points are valid but there's pretty much no chance we'll see these GPUs in this gen.

Because ASUS decided to go with a proprietary interface for their GPUs and they will need to manufacture these cards.

There's not enough time remaining in the G75xx series production cycle to actually produce these cards.

We've often made the comment to ASUS that we would like them to go back to the generic MXM style (as they did with the G73)

We feel that this would add better value to the brand (it is ROG after all)

Hopefully we'll see this in the next G

Hm good points you make. Yes I`ve seen those weird MXM type of cards they use. Wonder how long it takes them to customize them. Its Nvidia that makes them right?

Regular MXM cards inside the G-series would be great. Upgrade friendly and easy to switch out GPUs. From Asus standpoint I guess it comes down to forcing the customers to buy a brand new notebook if they want a upgrade? And perhaps not having to deal with warranty because the customer installed his own GPU?

Shawnnepc
10-10-2012, 09:51 PM
Hm good points you make. Yes I've seen those weird MXM type of cards they use. Wonder how long it takes them to customize them. Its Nvidia that makes them right?

Regular MXM cards inside the G-series would be great. Upgrade friendly and easy to switch out GPUs. From Asus standpoint I guess it comes down to forcing the customers to buy a brand new notebook if they want a upgrade? And perhaps not having to deal with warranty because the customer installed his own GPU?

It's probably cheaper to produce the GPUs in house compared to purchasing them from TSMC.

There's probably licensing fees or some restriction that comes into play w/ standard connections as well.

You also have to look at the general role of ASUS as a company.

They're a large scale OEM, they make hundreds if not thousands of different products.

It's not their job to deal with sales / marketing, that's why they have resellers

Companies like Dell have the ability to make sudden changes in such a short period because they themselves don't produce anything.

They also have a full sales force that can handle sales/ upgrades etc directly to consumers.

Dell also has a fully fleshed out reseller/service provider system.

SHDZ
10-11-2012, 02:21 AM
Reading the last posts, I find a lot of arguments to reason for Asus and the wishes of potential clients.

Why are we discussing?

We are discussing because we like the G series, it has everything that is important for gamers and even more. The design is great (for pure gamers and others); it is quiet, not hot, excellent screen etc. Therefore I accept some small other faults which are some how typical for notebooks like sound system (means even the better ones are not really good).

But the week GPU is the strong disadvantage (for me the only significant, which stops me from buying). A Gamer wants details on the screen, wants to play high end games with good resolution, and wants to show up comparing with friends. Furthermore he wants a system which is as well good for the next generation of games.

If somebody is willing to pay that much money for a notebook while he could have the same performance with a desktop for half price will be able to spend a little more to get the real deal.

Of cause Asus can wait until the other suppliers have changed there systems to more quiet and less hot etc. Then the advantage is gone.

You know, to stay in the game and to have a top product which gets the interest of clients and the media is important.

Thinking of Samsung S3, its not only selling it self it is selling the hole brand with all the much poorer Mobil phones.
Like Nokia, no top phone losing not only on that product loosing on the whole brand.

Asus should consider.

Best wishes

_
10-11-2012, 03:16 AM
Q: For higher GTX, would you guys truly buy a thicker, heavier, more expensive G series though?

I don't deny everyone's sound logic, otherwise we'd never make the MARS/ARES/Extreme boards etc. However our biggest selling G75 series is naturally our cheapest model, so from a sales perspective aiming for the best bang-for-buck is logical. Not to mention the fact that notebook trend is for smaller, lighter, more portable.

1) From your perspective, what stops you opting for a small form factor PC with more performance/less cost once you reach desktop-replacement level? You could buy a Silverstone mini-ITX and fit a GTX 670 in it - that's tons of power!
2) Instead of 'rarely-moveable' G series, would you be interested in a gaming AIO similar to an ET2700 on GPU steroids?
3) Where do you want to use a higher-end(/less portable) G series? I can then pass on these user scenarios.

(For the record I am collecting all the feedback to pass on. Our product managers will know for G6 :))

Shawnnepc
10-11-2012, 04:16 AM
Q: For higher GTX, would you guys truly buy a thicker, heavier, more expensive G series though?

I don't deny everyone's sound logic, otherwise we'd never make the MARS/ARES/Extreme boards etc. However our biggest selling G75 series is naturally our cheapest model, so from a sales perspective aiming for the best bang-for-buck is logical. Not to mention the fact that notebook trend is for smaller, lighter, more portable.

1) From your perspective, what stops you opting for a small form factor PC with more performance/less cost once you reach desktop-replacement level? You could buy a Silverstone mini-ITX and fit a GTX 670 in it - that's tons of power!
2) Instead of 'rarely-moveable' G series, would you be interested in a gaming AIO similar to an ET2700 on GPU steroids?
3) Where do you want to use a higher-end(/less portable) G series? I can then pass on these user scenarios.

(For the record I am collecting all the feedback to pass on. Our product managers will know for G6 :))

I think the issue is that there's plenty of other laptops that have the highest tier GPU in them that have the same as or better portability as the G series.

I had to fill in my own product offerings with Clevo because ASUS didn't offer a top tier gaming laptop for two generations now.

We want better because we know ASUS can DO better.

A x80m GPU with ASUS design and build quality?

YES PLEASE!

Woots
10-11-2012, 05:17 AM
I think the issue is that there's plenty of other laptops that have the highest tier GPU in them that have the same as or better portability as the G series.

I had to fill in my own product offerings with Clevo because ASUS didn't offer a top tier gaming laptop for two generations now.

We want better because we know ASUS can DO better.

A x80m GPU with ASUS design and build quality?

YES PLEASE!

As a consumer I agree with this. I do want a top end performance option laptop from Asus in the future.

I know I read current mainboard design would not permit a larger GPU like the x80's. However, I am not speaking this current generation.

If round tables go out for R&D for next gen G series laptops...Please consider building from the ground up with the highest level GPU's in mind from day one. Because I think know for a fact you are losing money to the competition... that you don't need to be. Allowing a full range of GPU's seems to be a core philosphy of all of your high end competition and I like to think of Asus as part of that contingent not a second tier, low end brand (Asus is leader in Mobo's and I say they are capable of doing it here on laptops as well).

Let's break down the real high end competition and why I think Asus could compete if they wanted to.


[*=1]Alienware: thankfully has a bad reputation (thanks to dell acquisition long ago) so there is a void there that can be filled by Asus for anti-alienware users (and their numbers are huge).. sadly they offer high end GPU's on a short list of companies so it's still a contender even for those that hate them on principle.[*=1]MSI: while this is a quality brand. I never respected them anywhere near the level I respect Asus... simple fact. I see MSI a notch below Asus. So again I think I am not alone in this regard and people would be willing to buy Asus over MSI... they too offer top end GPU's though which puts Asus at a notch down on laptop peformance.[*=1] Sager/Clevo: They have an awesome underground respect and loyalty, but lets face it they are far from main stream or well known. While I think they are awesome on feature to price ratio they lack sex appeal. Which gives Asus a tad of a leg up over that brand since G series is more stylish.
I realize Asus wants to find a niche market with these G series laptops... which is enthusiast PC gamers (am I wrong with this? If so why is it branded with ROG?). I just don't understand why they don't offer a full range of laptops to suit all the price budgets of the "enthusiast PC gamer". I just don't believe enthusiast gamers "only" want mid range affordability. As a hardcore PC builder for 15+ years... I know this isn't true of all people... many yes... but not all.

If sound is an issue than make only the highest level G series laptop have the loudest sound and have the lower tiered once quieter sounding fans since they require less cooling. I can't imagine that a well designed laptop board layout couldn't accommode a few different fan sizes through the model range and still permit smooth production. Big loud fans on the x80 models (for those that want all the juice) and Small / quiet fans on the lower models for those looking for high portability and low power use.


This is just my 2 cents and it comes from someone who has been buying Asus motherboards for a very very very very long time.

maoli
10-11-2012, 08:11 AM
Q: For higher GTX, would you guys truly buy a thicker, heavier, more expensive G series though?

[snip]

Not to mention the fact that notebook trend is for smaller, lighter, more portable.

[snip]

(For the record I am collecting all the feedback to pass on. Our product managers will know for G6 :))

Please never EVER compromise how cool & quiet the G series is.

WontonNoodle
10-11-2012, 08:14 AM
my g55 is not cool and it is definitely louder then other laptops in the same class when not playing games.

g75 is very cool though

c_man
10-11-2012, 09:07 AM
Your G55 might have a problem. Mine are the other way around about loudness, both are cool. G55 beats almost anything with 650/660M in it when it comes to how cool the entire laptop is.

maoli
10-11-2012, 09:17 AM
my g55 is not cool and it is definitely louder then other laptops in the same class when not playing games.

g75 is very cool though

Based on reviews (ie not personal experience unfortunately) I can only find 3 other 15" laptops with a 660m... a Gigabyte, a Lenovo and a Shenker. All three run much hotter (to the point of throttling even!) and all three are louder.

Edit: The craziness that is the 17" Razer Blade with a 660m, helps me prove my point about NOT going down the "thin & light" road. Runs hotter than the G55 and costs almost twice as much as the G75.

WontonNoodle
10-11-2012, 09:49 AM
Your G55 might have a problem. Mine are the other way around about loudness, both are cool. G55 beats almost anything with 650/660M in it when it comes to how cool the entire laptop is.

when gaming my temps hit 80-86, cpu and gpu is around 80

and the fan is always on and loud. my friend has a y580 and it's almost silent when idle.

Zygomorphic
10-11-2012, 10:24 AM
@Marshall, my reasoning for a G53SX was as follows:
1) I want a computer under $1500
2) It must have 1080p (or higher :D)
3) I would like it to support more than 8 GB of RAM
3.1) Ideally, this upgrade should cost <$200
4) Two 2.5" HDDs are mandatory.
5) Size and weight aren't that important, though 15.6" is better than 17"

The only thing that fit was the G53SX...I'm very happy with my purchase, and in several years, will buy the G58 if it has 2 2.5" HDDs. I don't have the space for a desktop, and I carry my comp around, so laptop was mandatory.

peterleerule
10-11-2012, 07:12 PM
Not sure whats going on in this thread.
I love my g75. I wanted a G series since it came out. ONLY reason i didnt get it was the size. It was too thick. Even now the g75 is thick but it is a lot thinner and slimmer than the g74. THATS WHY I GOT IT!

I like the slimmer size, the performance, the feel and the ergonomics of the laptop. The graphics is top notch but not the best. Still a great card the gtx 670m. I dont regret my purchase.

I was going to get the g55 but it was only a little lighter than the 75. It had the 660m instead of the 670m and it is hardt o clean the fan. I just went with the g75.

Best choice ever.

mschloz
10-11-2012, 08:12 PM
@MarshallR

I dont own a G seirse yet, but I have wonted one for some time... Here is what I think.

1)I like having the screen and keyboard all combined and easy to move if need. I travel and attend classes... so it is nice to be able to meet up with friends or move to a new place and just have to move the laptop and not a tower, monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. Don't get me wrong, I don't bring my bigger laptop to class (I have a netbook/tablet for that), but it is my primary when I go back home for the evening.
2) Not really, I don't need a larger screen.. the 17" - 15" range is perfect.
3) Mostly on a table, and from time to time on my lap.

What I like about the current G series is the style and functionality. It has the features looked for and is not just a plastic block that is loud as hell (looking at my current clevo laptop....). It also has some usability outside of just sitting on a desk, it has some battery life and a excellent keyboard and mouse pad (especially on the G75) to make it lap worthy.

Some things that have kept me from buying a G75 are the lack of switching graphics and a better GPU. The keyboard, design, and functionality are great (especially how quiet it is) but I would love to see a top notch (680m, 675mx) GPU with switching graphics. This would not only extend the battery life (when needed) but reduce the heat, using the Intel HD graphics for web browsing, word processing, videos while the discrete GPU (680m) would only be used during gaming. Also, the inclusion of mSATA would be nice, takes up less space and can still have the same capacity of a 2.5" SSD. This could also allow for more space for cooling ;). I like the combo of a 256GB mSATA SSD (boot/OS) with 1 or 2 hard drives for storage (1 would suffice, but 2 could allow dual boot (dedicated hard drive) for weird people like me!). I guess i should mention the mic and web cam. Im not sure of the current quality of these on the G series, but a excellent mic and web cam are crucial for me (web meetings and conference calls of VOIP). My current clevo sucks for this! I had to buy a head seat and look ridiculous during web chat with video.

That is really it... 8GB RAM is good, and 2.4GHz i7 is perfect. Sorry for the wall of text.

SHDZ
10-12-2012, 03:50 AM
Since some people mention wishes:

A fingerprint reader for the G55vx would be quite nice.

fostert
10-12-2012, 05:11 AM
Stock clocks the 670MX have a memory bandwidth of 67GB/s. 675MX 115.2GB/s. Both running @ 900MHz. Already here the 675MX have a HUGE lead.
Not being a gamer or anything I honestly don't know what the answer to this is, but it seems to me the right question to ask is: do today's GPUs and the demands placed on them by games actually saturate the bandwidth to the memory? I.e. is the memory bandwidth always the bottleneck in the chain? Does overclocking actually even put the memory bandwidth into that realm? If not then an increase from 192 to 256 bits is going to be about as effective as twinning the dirt alley road behind my house.

Zygomorphic
10-12-2012, 10:21 AM
@fostert, that is a good question, and I don't know the answer to it. My guess as to testing is to run the game with low, med, and max textures and everything else (shadows, AA, motion blur, etc) turned off. This will give you a bandwidth-limited benchmark if anything will. Now go back to low textures and turn everything else on. This should be a core/shader-limited result. Compare.

eldi_el
10-14-2012, 04:33 PM
We just want the option of GTX675MX! not 680, just ordinary brand new GTX675MX! Who wants, should buy either 670MX or 675MX! Please Asus! give us that!

Just consider how many users REGISTERED to this forum just to write here wishes about GTX675M!

Additionally, better sound system please.


And in the future 18.4' G series :) LOL

john_from_ohio
10-14-2012, 05:21 PM
We just want the option of GTX675MX! not 680, just ordinary brand new GTX675MX!

Considering that the release is just days away and inventory probably shipping to many countries already ... it is kind of late to wish that any postings on this forum is going to have any impact on what asus does with the G75VX.

It may have a 675 option but until asus releases the details ... we won't know for sure ... but there are some hits on other websites showing specs on G75VX none of them so far having a 675 ... so prospects are ... kind of unlikely ... time will tell ...

DeltaActual
10-14-2012, 05:51 PM
so what about the sound/sub-woofer in the new G75? Marshall??? Am i the only one who wants to know?

Zygomorphic
10-14-2012, 06:52 PM
We just want the option of GTX675MX! not 680, just ordinary brand new GTX675MX! Who wants, should buy either 670MX or 675MX! Please Asus! give us that!

Just consider how many users REGISTERED to this forum just to write here wishes about GTX675M!

Additionally, better sound system please.


And in the future 18.4' G series :) LOL

If they go back to standard MXM designs, then people will be able to upgrade, otherwise, that isn't likely.

Stick around, please, we love meeting new people and need them! :)

Better sound system would definitely be nice, my G53SX isn't all that great. Here's to hoping ASUS moves that awesome N55 sound system over to the G-series.

G86HX, anyone?? (Haswell+700M series) :cool:

infrage
10-14-2012, 09:10 PM
The primary reason for my G75VW was because it was Asus's highest offering for GPUs. Had I known the performance was lacking this much compared to a 680M (my fault for not reading benchmarks) I would have decided otherwise.

ZeroBarrier
10-14-2012, 09:19 PM
The primary reason for my G75VW was because it was Asus's highest offering for GPUs. Had I known the performance was lacking this much compared to a 680M (my fault for not reading benchmarks) I would have decided otherwise.

If the G75 with a GTX 670m is disappointing to you, then I think you shouldn't be looking at laptops my friend. I suggest building yourself a desktop; and if portability is something you also desire, then perhaps building a SFF PC is the way to go for you. That way you can at least transport it easily enough to LAN parties.

infrage
10-14-2012, 09:33 PM
If the G75 with a GTX 670m is disappointing to you, then I think you shouldn't be looking at laptops my friend. I suggest building yourself a desktop; and if portability is something you also desire, then perhaps building a SFF PC is the way to go for you. That way you can at least transport it easily enough to LAN parties.

Is a 680m pointless then in a laptop? Hell no. Trying to achieve a steady fps 60+ at *only* 1080p max gfx no AA, the 670MX would have been the better choice and obviously the 680m. SFF isint the point, some of us just want beefy lappys to run games at a fluid rate.

john_from_ohio
10-14-2012, 09:37 PM
Had I known the (my fault for not reading benchmarks)


Well thanks for being honest about that part ...

I am still getting blown away by how many people apparently spending way more than a thousand US dollars and do not understand what they have purchased and how it compares technically with other expensive options.

Zygomorphic
10-14-2012, 09:41 PM
Is a 680m pointless then in a laptop? Hell no. Trying to achieve a steady fps 60+ at *only* 1080p max gfx no AA, the 670MX would have been the better choice and obviously the 680m. SFF isint the point, some of us just want beefy lappys to run games at a fluid rate.

You know, I think it is a matter of each of us has different priorities. Some want battery life, some want extreme performance, some want low weight. We can't all get all of what we want, though I think that we should all lobby ASUS to use standard GPU parts so that everyone can upgrade as they see fit. That, and ASUS can pwn the custom notebook market...

TSC-Ops
10-14-2012, 11:09 PM
a 7970m would have been the ideal choice but asus has to please the Nvidia gods even though they havent launched a good chip in a while

christaylor
10-15-2012, 12:55 AM
One think I hope the G75VX will have is color changing LED backlit keyboard like that of MSI and Alienware. I think it is time it becomes a feature that is standard.

fostert
10-15-2012, 06:09 AM
Better sound system would definitely be nice, my G53SX isn't all that great. Here's to hoping ASUS moves that awesome N55 sound system over to the G-series.
Actually that Bang & Olufsen sound system of ASUS' is not all that much better than the G74's speakers...when we bought our G74 I fell in love with it, put Linux on it, and began monopolizing it much to my wife's wagging finger (supposedly it was to be the family computer...hah!), so I bought her an N53SN with this ICEpower Bang & Olufsen sound system...was nice, but somewhat disappointed with it compared to my 74...expected some sort of breakthrough I guess, which it is not (distortion at higher levels, tinny, little depth of bass: no subwoofer). But it did get her off my case about hogging the G74!

Zygomorphic
10-15-2012, 10:20 AM
Actually that Bang & Olufsen sound system of ASUS' is not all that much better than the G74's speakers...when we bought our G74 I fell in love with it, put Linux on it, and began monopolizing it much to my wife's wagging finger (supposedly it was to be the family computer...hah!), so I bought her an N53SN with this ICEpower Bang & Olufsen sound system...was nice, but somewhat disappointed with it compared to my 74...expected some sort of breakthrough I guess, which it is not (distortion at higher levels, tinny, little depth of bass: no subwoofer). But it did get her off my case about hogging the G74!

I know the N55 is supposed to be really good, I don't know about the N53. Still, good work at keeping the wife happy! :) Debian, you using? Which window manager?

c_man
10-15-2012, 10:43 AM
Is a 680m pointless then in a laptop? Hell no. Trying to achieve a steady fps 60+ at *only* 1080p max gfx no AA, the 670MX would have been the better choice and obviously the 680m. SFF isint the point, some of us just want beefy lappys to run games at a fluid rate.

Well, exactly. As some of you want big laptops that are very expensive and don't compare to a similar desktop, some of us want a laptop that is cool, not very noisy and gives a decent performance level. Meet G75. At around 1000€ I can't beat that. Anything else is like twice the money and will make so much noise, I want to AX it sometime (me having a Clevo as well and it's also hot like crazy).

Zygomorphic
10-16-2012, 01:24 AM
@c_man, I agree with you. I like my quiet ASUS...stealth fighter design and sounds. It is nice to be able to run VMs without boiling coffee behind the computer... lol :p

Some people have transportation/space requirements precluding a desktop. Otherwise, I would rather have (build) a desktop for a lot less and get something more powerful.

eldi_el
10-16-2012, 12:12 PM
Just the thing is.... with 675mx, this laptop can be as silent as with 670mx, yes? and additionally it will fit in 17.3'' screen laptop easily? I dont even count smaller ones since I dont see them suitable for gaming.

And additionally I dont care 680 at all since it will be hotter and the most critical thing for me NOISIER. so if everything will work fine with 675mx, so why not!

Again I repeat. Is it only me who is interested in 18.4'' gaming laptop? Especially for Asus? I dont wanna buy Alienware but it is the only option right now...

john_from_ohio
10-16-2012, 03:22 PM
Again I repeat. Is it only me who is interested in 18.4'' gaming laptop? Especially for Asus?

Why limit yourself to 18.4?

I want a 21 inch gaming laptop with a screen resolution of 2880 x 1800!

Pandur
10-16-2012, 04:10 PM
A wider memory-bus equals more memory chips, since each chip have a 32-bit wide bus. So the 675mx will have two more memory chips compared to the 670mx. I don't have any GDDR5 chips infront of me, but for simplicity lets say they're 1x1cm in size (shouldn't be to far from the truth), that means you need to find another 1x2cm space inside the laptop (where the GPU is mounted) to upgrade from the 670mx to the 675mx, even if all the other specs are exactly the same. I haven't inspected the inside of a G75 but worst case scenario is that you'll have to completely redesign the motherboard/inside of the chassis to make the required room. Laptops have a bad tendency to come fully packed. :P

c_man
10-16-2012, 04:12 PM
Hehe. That would be a killer with a great panel in it.

17" is still movable. Above that, it's a desktop :)

c_man
10-16-2012, 04:14 PM
A wider memory-bus equals more memory chips, since each chip have a 32-bit wide bus. So the 675mx will have two more memory chips compared to the 670mx. I don't have any GDDR5 chips infront of me, but for simplicity lets say they're 1x1cm in size (shouldn't be to far from the truth), that means you need to find another 1x2cm space inside the laptop (where the GPU is mounted) to upgrade from the 670mx to the 675mx, even if all the other specs are exactly the same. I haven't inspected the inside of a G75 but worst case scenario is that you'll have to completely redesign the motherboard/inside of the chassis to make the required room. Laptops have a bad tendency to come fully packed. :P

From what I have seen, one HDD bay and a screw might be the first problem. So keeping those, means a new design, even if minimal.

eldi_el
10-16-2012, 06:12 PM
Why limit yourself to 18.4?

I want a 21 inch gaming laptop with a screen resolution of 2880 x 1800!


18.4'' is already the limit IMO. We need a bit portability at least)))



17" is still movable. Above that, it's a desktop

Include 18'' as well) Still movable. Especially with my special 18'' bag with wheels :)))

c_man
10-16-2012, 06:17 PM
HAHAHAHA! Do you have a bag like that? Sounds EPIC!

Zygomorphic
10-17-2012, 01:00 AM
18.4'' is already the limit IMO. We need a bit portability at least)))
Include 18'' as well) Still movable. Especially with my special 18'' bag with wheels :)))
You could just bolt casters to the base of your tower case and be on your way... :)
I've seen 18.4" laptops in person, and they are huge.

SHDZ
10-17-2012, 03:07 AM
From what I have seen, one HDD bay and a screw might be the first problem. So keeping those, means a new design, even if minimal.


Why do you have to have two full size HDD bay's? One HDD bay which suits a 1.5 TB 2,5" HDD with 15mm highs and one slim mSATA bay for a 256 MB SSD.

I guess you have enough space to fit the GTX 680m!

Just a sugestion for the G76 !

I have seen a draft specification of the G46 (from vietnam). If it's true, the whole equipment of the G55 is put into the G46.
I feel a little funy discussing the adittional space requirent of 2 IC's 1x2 cm and maybe 3mm high!

Best wishes

Zygomorphic
10-17-2012, 10:21 AM
@SHDZ, because I run multiple operating systems and VMs, so I use a ton of space. Also, I am a big stickler for standards, while mSata is a standard, it doesn't support as many things as a standard drive. I'd rather see two 9.5 mm 2.5" drive caddies than 1 15 mm 2.5" with mSata. Also, I'm cheap (read frugal) and 2.5" drives are cheaper than mSata's.

c_man
10-17-2012, 06:19 PM
Why do you have to have two full size HDD bay's? One HDD bay which suits a 1.5 TB 2,5" HDD with 15mm highs and one slim mSATA bay for a 256 MB SSD.

I guess you have enough space to fit the GTX 680m!

Just a sugestion for the G76 !

I have seen a draft specification of the G46 (from vietnam). If it's true, the whole equipment of the G55 is put into the G46.
I feel a little funy discussing the adittional space requirent of 2 IC's 1x2 cm and maybe 3mm high!

Best wishes

OK, but still they need a new design of the current laptop.

RGT19
10-20-2012, 01:30 PM
when will be released the G75VX?

MEX
10-20-2012, 04:22 PM
Hello, I have an interactive design company. We are planning to make a large investment in several G75VW. With a bit of googling we found out the launch of the new G75VX will be soon. Do you know any official release date?......Our company is growing and so is vital to continue developing. And an investment this big is Vital for us to continue developing. Well appreciate any news you can give us. Thanks

john_from_ohio
10-20-2012, 11:38 PM
Hello, I have an interactive design company. We are planning to make a large investment in several G75VW. With a bit of googling we found out the launch of the new G75VX will be soon. Do you know any official release date?......Our company is growing and so is vital to continue developing. And an investment this big is Vital for us to continue developing. Well appreciate any news you can give us. Thanks

Not exactly hard to figure out that the release of the G75VX is tied to the Windows 8 release date ...

TSC-Ops
10-21-2012, 07:48 PM
you put windows 8 on any laptop you are signing your death warrant. its like putting ME on a high end laptop .

MEX
10-21-2012, 08:21 PM
What you mean??????????

Zeebo
10-21-2012, 08:49 PM
Everything is showing that the Asus G75vx will be released either on or after the 25th of October... I have been following this pretty closely as I really wanted a 670mx with a Kepler core

I have not had any first hand experience with windows 8, but every 'professional' review is giving it positive marks... Windows 8 is not a death warrant for me... Windows 8 has had equal/improved performance numbers vs Windows 7, and the interface is supposedly very intuitive once u get used to it... Worst case scenario I just wipe it and install my copy of Windows 7 Ultimate

Pricing for it looks to range from $1300-$1900, and will undoubtedly be using the same body style as the other G75s... There is no reason for a redesign, and if it was a true redesign, it would be called the G76

Specs I'm expecting are...
Intel i7 3630
670mx
8-12gb of RAM
750gb hybrid drive (seagate momentus XT)
1920x1080 screen

If anyone has any other info that differs from mine please let me know :)

Hope this answers any questions, but expect its release on or after Oct 25th (Windows 8 Official Release Date)

TSC-Ops
10-22-2012, 12:01 AM
windows 8 takes away user functionality and is Microsofts way of telling you how to use your operating system and you dont get any choice

Zeebo
10-22-2012, 02:55 AM
Ok, u need to legit give it a chance man...

http://m.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/software/operating-systems/windows-8-1093002/review

This is a review that is basically the same as all others... The OS performs just as well/better in all applications vs Windows 7... If you really don't want to use windows8, then don't... I'm sure u have a windows7 install somewhere...

I have not officially tried it, but I am at least willing to give it a chance so I can pass proper judgement on it... It has none of the issues windows ME/Vista had... Windows 8 is stable, a fast performer, and highly customizable... Just like all Windows OS, after initial install, I will need to go through and customize it to my personal needs....

The argument here is the G75vx including windows 8 only... It's the only way move technology forward is by keeping it up to date via hardware & software... Unless u have legitimate issues with the Released Windows 8 (which no one does til it's released on the 25th) then kindly don't judge something before u actually try it

Zygomorphic
10-22-2012, 10:29 AM
I've tried Win 8, and it is faster, but it is not something I like for desktop use. More specifically, anything with a bunch of utilities (say development tools) soon clutters up the UI. I'd also rather read text than look at pictures.

Zeebo
10-22-2012, 03:09 PM
Granted I have not tried Windows 8 at all, but everything I have read seems to point to that they exchanged the 'start menu' for 'metro'

Windows 8 is not 'metro', it is a refined version of Windows 7, with a new 'start menu/quick launch'... And I have also heard it is fairly easy to avoid 'metro' if u honestly hate it that much... Some people say its better, some say it adds a click or 2 vs the old start menu... But that's all it is really... A way to find programs/files, while also incorporating tiles/widgets...

Think of it as replacing your start menu with metro... Everything else about Windows 8 is largely the same/better

But getting back on topic, I'm anxious to see how the g75vx runs with Windows 8... And it will be my first experience with OS, and owning an Asus ROG (bought a g53sw for girlfriend about 8months back)... Like I said, if I can't stand windows 8, I have my Windows 7 install ready to go at a moments notice

MEX
10-22-2012, 05:52 PM
What about the ROG G75VW with windows 8, i7 3630 and GTX 670M that came out today?.. should we wait alot more for the G75VX?.......I mean seriously, we still getting a GTX 670M?????

Zeebo
10-22-2012, 07:34 PM
What about the ROG G75VW with windows 8, i7 3630 and GTX 670M that came out today?.. should we wait alot more for the G75VX?.......I mean seriously, we still getting a GTX 670M?????

The 670m will still be in the g75vw, even once the g75vx, there will still be systems that have the 670m...

I personally would suggest waiting until after the 25th if not the 1st before making a buy if u can wait... There is no issues with the g75vw with 670m, other than the GPU is not Kepler... But still performs well...

I'm waiting until the 1st of November the latest for any g75vx announcement... I really only can see myself buying a Kepler based ROG laptop

Zygomorphic
10-23-2012, 12:22 AM
What about the ROG G75VW with windows 8, i7 3630 and GTX 670M that came out today?.. should we wait alot more for the G75VX?.......I mean seriously, we still getting a GTX 670M?????

Notice what I colored red in the quoting. The VX hasn't come out. ASUS is simply refreshing the line, a lot of vendors did that recently with Windows 8 shipping now. I would wait honestly. That 675M is faster, runs cooler, and the newest architecture. Not to say that the 670M is slow, by no means! If ASUS drops the price, and you want to save some cash, it might be worth considering the G75VW in lieu of the G75VX.

Zeebo
10-23-2012, 04:17 PM
That 675M is faster, runs cooler, and the newest architecture. Not to say that the 670M is slow, by no means!

I think u mean 670mx instead of 675m*

syncope
10-23-2012, 07:02 PM
Hey guys,
I've been following this thread forever so I thought I might as well give my two cents on the story. ;)
I've decided to finally get my hands on an ROG laptop since MarshallR so kindly gave us a heads-up for an updated G75. Sure enough there are faster laptops out there for the same money or even less, but when it comes to ergonomics and overall product quality ASUS blows them all out of the water.
So all the others who are currently considering getting a G75VX should take a look at this:
http://www.cyberport.de/notebook-und-tablet/notebooks/1C28-1G2/asus-g75vx-t4014h-full-hd-gaming-notebook.html
Cyberport is pretty much the biggest online computer retailer we have in Germany so their info should be accurate.
They list the G75VX as shippable on November 15th.
Also there's three different models, I'll just sum up the differences here:

T4020H: 750GB HDD plus 8GB SDD Cache
T4014H: 1TB HDD plus 250GB SDD
CV012H: same as T4014H plus 3D display
(They'll probably carry different model designations in the US but specs should be the same)

Apart from that they all feature the new Nvidia GTX 670MX as well the Intel i7 3630QM which is also slightly faster than the 3610QM used in the G75VW models.

I'd say anyone who has been waiting until now should definitely hold on a few more weeks, the increase in performance should make it worthwile.

noneone
10-23-2012, 07:57 PM
Hey guys,
I've been following this thread forever so I thought I might as well give my two cents on the story. ;)
I've decided to finally get my hands on an ROG laptop since MarshallR so kindly gave us a heads-up for an updated G75. Sure enough there are faster laptops out there for the same money or even less, but when it comes to ergonomics and overall product quality ASUS blows them all out of the water.
So all the others who are currently considering getting a G75VX should take a look at this:
http://www.cyberport.de/notebook-und-tablet/notebooks/1C28-1G2/asus-g75vx-t4014h-full-hd-gaming-notebook.html
Cyberport is pretty much the biggest online computer retailer we have in Germany so their info should be accurate.
They list the G75VX as shippable on November 15th.
Also there's three different models, I'll just sum up the differences here:

T4020H: 750GB HDD plus 8GB SDD Cache
T4014H: 1TB HDD plus 250GB SDD
CV012H: same as T4014H plus 3D display
(They'll probably carry different model designations in the US but specs should be the same)

Apart from that they all feature the new Nvidia GTX 670MX as well the Intel i7 3630QM which is also slightly faster than the 3610QM used in the G75VW models.

I'd say anyone who has been waiting until now should definitely hold on a few more weeks, the increase in performance should make it worthwile.

Thanks syncope, good info. Couple things .....

1) in the link you provide the main description says 670M NOT 670mx ...
2) i don't read german, but, stumbling around the site, there's a link that might be "detail specs", perhaps called "Datenblatt" :) that DOES say 670mx ...... and ....
3) I see thunderbolt.

I SEE THUNDERBOLT. just sayin :)

OK, let's ... speculate on price? The prices on that site indicate a 200 euro (that about $250usd now?) difference from the 660m to the 670mX ..... or ... not much of a price increase from the current 670m ... could Asus be rolling out 670mx AND thunderbolt AND win8 for essentially no price increase?

Sounds nice .... do I read all that correctly? My German's not so good ......

Thanks!

Zeebo
10-23-2012, 08:40 PM
I looke over the specs and it makes me more and more excited for it!
I did read something... It says 'HD Webcam' in the description...

My gf has the g53 and the webcam is barely passable... Any word on if the g75 has a better camera or if the g75vx is getting a upgraded/higher def one?

syncope
10-23-2012, 09:33 PM
2) i don't read german, but, stumbling around the site, there's a link that might be "detail specs", perhaps called "Datenblatt" :) that DOES say 670mx ......
Your German is just fine, noneone. ;) "Datenblatt" means as much as "data sheet". The 670M instead of 670MX in the top summary box is definitely a mistake as it does appear correctly in the data sheet.
To be fair, Nvidia really should have thought of a more noticeable designation to distinguish between the "old" Fermi 670M and "new" Kepler 670MX.
Another German retailer also lists all of the G75VX models correctly with the 670MX and Thunderbolt, furthermore confirming the pricing. http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/asus+g75vx+t4014h+notebook?eqsqid=5f83a1d6-ea99-49b8-9ce8-8f1fd7c96860

I suppose the HD-Webcam is the same as in the G75VW series.

Also I noticed that the prices of all three VX models are the same as the comparable VW configurations at launch.
Thus I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that pricing in the US will be 1699$ for the 750GB entry model, 1899$ for the extra 500GB HDD and SSD, and 2099$ for the 3D model. The only difference being that the entry model uses the 670MX as well, unlike the G75VW entry model which used the 660M.

Shawnnepc
10-23-2012, 09:50 PM
Hey guys,
I've been following this thread forever so I thought I might as well give my two cents on the story. ;)
I've decided to finally get my hands on an ROG laptop since MarshallR so kindly gave us a heads-up for an updated G75. Sure enough there are faster laptops out there for the same money or even less, but when it comes to ergonomics and overall product quality ASUS blows them all out of the water.
So all the others who are currently considering getting a G75VX should take a look at this:
http://www.cyberport.de/notebook-und-tablet/notebooks/1C28-1G2/asus-g75vx-t4014h-full-hd-gaming-notebook.html
Cyberport is pretty much the biggest online computer retailer we have in Germany so their info should be accurate.
They list the G75VX as shippable on November 15th.
Also there's three different models, I'll just sum up the differences here:

T4020H: 750GB HDD plus 8GB SDD Cache
T4014H: 1TB HDD plus 250GB SDD
CV012H: same as T4014H plus 3D display
(They'll probably carry different model designations in the US but specs should be the same)

Apart from that they all feature the new Nvidia GTX 670MX as well the Intel i7 3630QM which is also slightly faster than the 3610QM used in the G75VW models.

I'd say anyone who has been waiting until now should definitely hold on a few more weeks, the increase in performance should make it worthwile.

That info isn't supposed to be posted yet :P

Zeebo
10-23-2012, 10:02 PM
Hey guys,
I've been following this thread forever so I thought I might as well give my two cents on the story. ;)

Nice to see a fellow noob to this forums... I did the same thing... Was tired of just lurking so I decided to get involved directly XD

Zygomorphic
10-24-2012, 12:25 AM
That info isn't supposed to be posted yet :P

Well I guess I just shouldn't see it, should I??? :D ;)

SHDZ
10-24-2012, 07:13 AM
Whow!

The difference between the G75VW and G75VX is:

- Intel Core i7-3610QM, GTX 670M and Windows 7
- Intel Core i7-3630QM, GTX 670MX and Windows 8, Thunderbolt

Price increase ~ 50,-.

Since most games depend on GPU performance which increased by only 16%, many games still cant be played with highest settings.

See the link which shows the performance of the GTX 600 series.
http://www.geforce.co.uk/Active/en_US/shared/images/products/shared/600m-lineup.png

I think the G75VX didnt deserve waiting.

Anyway waiting for the G56, Im hopeful that it will have a GTX 680M inside and space for a 15mm HDD!!

WontonNoodle
10-24-2012, 07:24 AM
wait, the g56 will have a g70mx or a 675mx? CRAP. I just got the G55 1 and a half months ago!

syncope
10-24-2012, 09:27 AM
That info isn't supposed to be posted yet :P

Uuuuuhhh... my bad, I guess. Should I put SPOILER ALERT on it next time? :D

_
10-24-2012, 09:39 AM
Anyway waiting for the G56, I’m hopeful that it will have a GTX 680M inside and space for a 15mm HDD!!

We are waaaaay off any other 6th Gen models, and considering we aim for thinner, lighter, a more erganomic 5 degree slope, there's no chance of 680M/15mm HDD in a sub 17" form factor. 15mm is pretty much not gonna happen at all; the entire industry is moving 7/5mm HDD/SSDs or mSATA. It would make it a proverbial brick. Please don't read as negative or abrasive, but I just want to tell you straight: you're best off looking elsewhere sorry.

On the VX: Will release info on here after 26th. G46VW comes first sorry.

Zygomorphic
10-24-2012, 10:16 AM
@MarshallR, that is really disappointing, to be honest with you. My G53SX had space for 2 2.5" 9.5 mm HDDs - part of the reason I bought it. It isn't all that much thicker than the G55, so honestly I would rather have the 2 2.5" HDDs than the slight reduction in thickness and weight. Whatever you guys do, don't compromise on that cooling system!

Zeebo
10-24-2012, 12:57 PM
On the VX: Will release info on here after 26th. G46VW comes first sorry.

Is that a date we can look forward to? O_O

People that are waitng for the Asus G*6 series of laptops are in for a long wait... look at all there previous versions of laptops.. every version is released with a new GPU infrastructure (200m, 400m, 500m, and now the 600m)... We are at the beginning of the 600series life cycle, so the wait will be for quite a while (4-6 months)

Also, why would you want the next series, G46/G56/G76 to be using current gen tech? I want the next release to be using Nvidia's new 760m/770m that willundoubtedly be faster, and closer to the 680m in terms of performance

With ASUSG series Laptops, they seem to aim for certain goals

Functional Design - Ensure the laptop runs cooler, and with forward thinking designs (Thunderbolt etc)
Aesthetics - Keep it looking low key, and using their 'stealth jet' ROG design
Price Points - Not hitting extreme Highs or Lows in Price, and achieving acceptable price/performance ratios
Gaming Needs - All their G series laptops can be picked up and made a good choice for gaming, regardless of the model/specs

_
10-24-2012, 03:13 PM
@MarshallR, that is really disappointing, to be honest with you. My G53SX had space for 2 2.5" 9.5 mm HDDs - part of the reason I bought it. It isn't all that much thicker than the G55, so honestly I would rather have the 2 2.5" HDDs than the slight reduction in thickness and weight. Whatever you guys do, don't compromise on that cooling system!

The entire industry is moving towards this trend. The 17" will still offer more space, but overwhelmingly people want thinner, more portable, and products are getting designed to accommodate this. Having two mechanical HDD in a notebook will be a complete thing of the past soon, replaced by SSD or more likely mSATA SSD/stick SSD. The cooling of course is always important and entirely customizable, whereas other components are industry standards.

The G6s are a long way off into 2013 and no in answer to the question above it will be after 26th :P

c0rp1
10-24-2012, 04:39 PM
Again couple of questions from me:

1. So basically g75vx will NOT have a 675mx for sure, right ?

2. What is this G6x series, that is coming in 2013 (and when in 2013)?

3. We will have more official info about the G75vx on 26.10.2012 ?

4. I`m from Bulgaria and in my country G75vw was really hard to find... just some stores are offering it from time to time, cause for our standards the price is a lot. There is also no possibility for customizations like 3d screen etc. The only model that is available for purchase is G75VW-T1028D (and the price of it is around 1300 euro WITHOUT any Windows in it). I was almost ready to buy that same model, but after I saw the info about the new G75VX I decided to wait. My question is - If retailers in my country decide that G75VX costs more and don`t want to buy it and then sell it, where is a good place to buy ASUS notebooks in Europe (cause if I buy from US I`ll have a lot of taxes). My current notebook is Dell and I ordered it directly from the official site (prices were too high in Bulgaria even after taxes). So is there a place where I can customize the G75VX or buy one with 3d screen or something like that? Or if the stores decide to not purchase the G75VX at all, where should I look for it?

5. As mentioned in my previous long :) question, if G75VW-T1028D cost 1300 euro here, what would be the estimate price of the new G75VX ?


Thanks in advance for the answers guys !

Zeebo
10-24-2012, 09:01 PM
1. So basically g75vx will NOT have a 675mx for sure, right ?

2. What is this G6x series, that is coming in 2013 (and when in 2013)?

3. We will have more official info about the G75vx on 26.10.2012 ?

I can answer some of ur questions... :)

1. With what we know ATM, the G75VX will have a 670mx, not a 675mx

2. The G6x series he is referring to is the next iteration of the ROG line of laptops... So the G76, G56, and G46

3. According to what we just were told, we will know something new about the G75VX series after October 26th... We just don't know exactly how long after October 26th lol

Hope those answers help u :)

Zygomorphic
10-25-2012, 01:18 AM
Is that a date we can look forward to? O_O

People that are waitng for the Asus G*6 series of laptops are in for a long wait... look at all there previous versions of laptops.. every version is released with a new GPU infrastructure (200m, 400m, 500m, and now the 600m)... We are at the beginning of the 600series life cycle, so the wait will be for quite a while (4-6 months)

Also, why would you want the next series, G46/G56/G76 to be using current gen tech? I want the next release to be using Nvidia's new 760m/770m that willundoubtedly be faster, and closer to the 680m in terms of performance

With ASUSG series Laptops, they seem to aim for certain goals

Functional Design - Ensure the laptop runs cooler, and with forward thinking designs (Thunderbolt etc)
Aesthetics - Keep it looking low key, and using their 'stealth jet' ROG design
Price Points - Not hitting extreme Highs or Lows in Price, and achieving acceptable price/performance ratios
Gaming Needs - All their G series laptops can be picked up and made a good choice for gaming, regardless of the model/specs

@Zeebo, that was a really good post, well thought out and written! +1 rep! :)

_
10-25-2012, 01:19 AM
I can answer some of ur questions... :)

1. With what we know ATM, the G75VX will have a 670mx, not a 675mx

2. The G6x series he is referring to is the next iteration of the ROG line of laptops... So the G76, G56, and G46

3. According to what we just were told, we will know something new about the G75VX series after October 26th... We just don't know exactly how long after October 26th lol

Hope those answers help u :)

This. :)

Cannot answer number 2 as we're bound by NDAs sorry. I would be internet resourceful and look at Intel's next CPU/Nvidia's next GPU schedule rumors.

Zeebo
10-25-2012, 03:30 AM
@Zeebo, that was a really good post, well thought out and written! +1 rep! :)

Awwww.... Your gonna make me blush.... :D

SHDZ
10-25-2012, 08:55 AM
Dear MarshallR@ASUS,

maybe I have to apologize for my last post.

Nevertheless, I wonder about your reply.
We are talking about gamer notebooks which are more than 5cm thick and more than 4 kg heavy.
Do you think anybody who buys such a notebook cares about 2mm more or less? Do you think 50g more or less count?
To provide the space for a 15mm HDD instead of 10mm should not be the big problem.
But anyway this point is not so serious. To have space for mSATA which can be reached without loosing the guaranty or space for normal 9.6mm SSD is more important.
We know, referring to the post Dear Asus/ROG.. that it is not a matter of power consumption, respectively being warmer to implement a GTX 680M.

What do we want?
We want gaming performance!!
We want a quiet and cold notebook even under full load!!!!!!!

I have checked other gaming notebooks that can provide the gaming power I want, but they are loud and hot.

I have never checked if these systems are a little lighter or smaller.
There are hundreds of notebooks which are lighter and smaller. If light and small is my priority I dont look for a gaming notebook!

If you want to keep the G design, fine as well, just design a GX. series which focuses on maximum gaming performance and is quiet and cold.

You know, ASUS should be happy about people like me, who say what they want (like many others here in the forum who want the GTX 680M or its successors inside the top ASUS gaming notebook).

Other companies are not sleeping; they may have already realized that they have a noise and temperature problem.
Of cause you can wait until your advantage is gone.

Best wishes.


P.S. I will wait until I can get a quite and cold high end gaming notebook. Lets see if its an ASUS

c0rp1
10-25-2012, 10:50 AM
@Zeebo and MarshallR ... THANK you very much for your fast response !!!

Zeebo
10-25-2012, 01:11 PM
@SHDZ

I think what Marshall was saying is that, its not an issue about being able to do it, its an issue that Notebooks in general are starting to move towards this 'smaller HD' trend

The reason ASUS is able to give the prices they do, and the quality products they do is because of the fact they don't offer everything under the sun (680m, etc etc), but the parts they do choose are picked to match a performance and price point

If you want to spend 3-5k on a laptop, the ASUS G series isn't for you...
If you want a well built, quiet, and well performing laptop, then G series is for you

Think about it this way.. you have $1000-$2000 to build the best gaming laptop/computer u can... undoubtedly you will have to rule out the highest end parts, and make decisions on other parts of the system... This is what they do happens when they design and come out with the different model numbers for ASUS

History shows the following...
ASUS will never put the Top of the Line GPU in their G Series... too expensive
ASUS will never put the Top of the Line CPU in their G Series... too expensive
ASUS WILL be priced from $1000-$2000
ASUS WILL give best price/performance in it's class
ASUS WILL cool it's system better than any other on the market

ASUS fits what I want perfectly... I just wanted Kepler.. so thats why I'm waiting for the G75VX =-D

MEX
10-25-2012, 05:20 PM
Thats the question!!!....... how long after the 26th!!?????????? jajaja Im desperate!...thanks everyone for the info...

Zeebo
10-25-2012, 05:57 PM
Thats the question!!!....... how long after the 26th!!?????????? jajaja Im desperate!...thanks everyone for the info...

I'm right there with ya lol... I've been looking at the G75vx since nvidia dropped the nda on the 670mx/675mx...

I'm getting a feeling something will happen tomorrow (26th), I have my fingers crossed!!

Zeebo
10-25-2012, 06:06 PM
Just saw this link
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/computers-laptops/laptops/asus-g75vx-t4077h-17-3-notebook-windows-8/675896

Showing the following specs
Asus G75VX-T4077H
17.3" Full HD (1920 x 1080) Screen
3rd Generation Intel Core i7-3630QM 2.4GHz CPU
16GB RAM
1.5TB HDD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX670MX with 3GB Graphics Memory
Webcam
Blu-ray Drive
SD Card Reader
1 x HDMI
4 x USB 3.0
Wi-Fi and Bluetooth
Windows 8
Australian site - $2698
(Australian prices are generally $800-$3000 more than US prices FYI)

Australia generally gets tech at higher costs because of shipping...
Thought I'd share :)

MEX
10-25-2012, 06:26 PM
wow! thanks!...all looking good so far. I still waiting for the features they said they manage to keep in secret.... And yeah. I hope you are wright about the shipping in australia being too high because is too expensive. wtf!

Zeebo
10-25-2012, 11:49 PM
Yeah I said the same thing when I saw it... Apparently there are issues with shipping and lack of competition in Australia, so prices are insane compared to the US... I initially thought it was due to Aus $ being worth more than US, but my google-fu came up with a bunch of other situations of Australian price gouging

Im getting more and more anxious... Only thing keeping me sane is chain refreshing this thread to see if Marshall released any more info O_o

What features in particular are u thinking they kept secret? I have been thinking about it... And what if it had a touch screen due to Windows 8?

Zygomorphic
10-26-2012, 12:29 AM
I doubt the touch screen. Ergonomics tests have shown that reaching out to touch the display in front of you isn't practical for long periods. Also, what will that do for gaming? Most games that people would play on a system like that are likely not to be touch-oriented.

Zeebo
10-26-2012, 01:22 AM
Was more just a crazy idea than anything...
Wouldn't be that bad, you would need to adjus play style a bit obviously, but being able to 'tap' the screen for a map, spell, or etc would be cool... But again it would be to be heavily adjusted for it...

Windows 8 is best on Touch Screen (still good without though), so was thinking maybe buy screens in bulk like they do they're current 1920x1080 LCDs

Like I said, was just thinking on 'unannounced' surprises the G75VX could have

Better WebCam? O_o

SHDZ
10-26-2012, 03:37 AM
@Zeebo

Thanks for your reply, but why do you talk about a price of 3000.- to 5000.-?

The main problem is that the G series doesnt have a really high end graphic solution. Everything else I (and many others) can live with.

Is that so difficult to understand?

If the price would be 500.- 600.- higher with the GTX 680M, would be fine.
That means the price for a G75 version without mSATA / SSD would be around 2100.- and with mSATA / SSD ~ 2600.-. As said before ASUS can still keep a version with a GTX 670MX to address the lower price section.

The G series with a GTX 680M would still be very competitive and my choice to buy.

But never mind, others and I have posted their wishes for a better graphic solution many times.
I will stop posting about this issue, wait and see!

Best wishes.

Zeebo
10-26-2012, 07:02 AM
Find and post a laptop with a 680m in the price range of the Asus G series...

The higher end u go, the less market share you get with it

680m is drastically overpriced ATM... Would be and easy $400-600 increase in price, plus the fact that asus uses proprietary GPU solutions (non-upgradeable) as well as the power drain difference... Only argument I could see really be made is for the 675mx

Yes I would LOVE to have the 680m, but I also understand why it's not available via Asus is what I am saying. You didn't portray that you understood why they can't/won't (at least in this series) have the highest end GPU solutions

WontonNoodle
10-26-2012, 07:16 AM
if you want a 680 just get a desktop... seriously... desktop is going to be cheaper and more powerful. It will be cheaper to get a beast desktop and a regular notebook than a laptop with a 680m. Any laptop over 1500$ is too much for me unless it provides beast graphics with processing power, great screen, and great >5 hour battery life. Asus right now has 2.5 out of 4 right now. I'd rather have better battery life than top of the line graphics.

Zygomorphic
10-26-2012, 10:26 AM
@Wonton, I would have to agree with you. The number of people willing to buy that is pretty small. It would be a better bet to buy one of ASUS non-ROG notebooks with a GT620M+Optimus and then a desktop that you could customize however you like.

Symho
10-26-2012, 10:57 AM
@Wonton, I would have to agree with you. The number of people willing to buy that is pretty small. It would be a better bet to buy one of ASUS non-ROG notebooks with a GT620M+Optimus and then a desktop that you could customize however you like.

Hi!

I want subscrive that in Italy the G75vx start to be avaible here (http://www.redcoon.it/B414569-Asus-G75VX-CV006H-Win-8_Notebook)

MEX
10-26-2012, 02:30 PM
Touch screen sounds good but im thinking more in MORE RAM memory... maybe 24 or even 32. Yo never know...... ITS 26TH!!!!!!!!!! I WANT ANSWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!! JAJA

_
10-26-2012, 03:25 PM
When it's ready you'll have answers ;)

Memory is limited by what the CPU offers, it's physically impossible to have more than 32GB DDR3 in SO-DIMMs via 4 slots currently.

MEX
10-26-2012, 03:31 PM
JAJAJA ok..... so it's physically impossible to have more than 32GB with the current CPU.... so we will get the space for 32?;)?

Zeebo
10-26-2012, 04:22 PM
and no in answer to the question above it will be after 26th :P

So MarshallR... It's October 26th... What have u got for us? O_o

Just read the new posts, but I still want answers dang it!!!

Take my money already!!'

syncope
10-26-2012, 11:28 PM
Seriously MarshallR, don't be such a tease. ;)

But really guys, we should all thank him for keeping us up to date about everything he's legally allowed to tell us. And he said AFTER 26th, so cut the man some slack.

I already made my decision based on what we know, and we know the G75VX will be beast, so it only gets better if there's even more stuff left to announce. Anticipation, anticipation...

Zeebo
10-27-2012, 01:01 AM
But really guys, we should all thank him for keeping us up to date about everything he's legally allowed to tell us.

Thank you Marshall... <3

Zygomorphic
10-27-2012, 01:31 AM
Seriously MarshallR, don't be such a tease. ;)

But really guys, we should all thank him for keeping us up to date about everything he's legally allowed to tell us. And he said AFTER 26th, so cut the man some slack.

I already made my decision based on what we know, and we know the G75VX will be beast, so it only gets better if there's even more stuff left to announce. Anticipation, anticipation...

@syncope, +1 rep for recognizing the truth about the situation and pointing it out! That is worth a lot. Sounds like you enjoy the waiting and wondering game more than most. ;)

RPXZ
10-27-2012, 02:49 AM
I am eagerly waiting as well. I just bought a G55 too lol. Guess I'll just have to use both, what a shame lmao.

MEX
10-27-2012, 05:55 PM
Its 27th already! Asus already announced their lineup for windows 8 and I dont see any G75vx! In it... Im getting desperate!.... I supose its gonna be the 1st of November

john_from_ohio
10-27-2012, 06:11 PM
Its 27th already! Asus already announced their lineup for windows 8 and I dont see any G75vx! In it... Im getting desperate!.... I supose its gonna be the 1st of November

Oh my god ... this is a bad situation! After the 1st of November ... why then it might be the 12th!

syncope
10-27-2012, 06:55 PM
I'll admit, at this point I'm F5ing this thread in 2 minute intervals. Also I have recently run out of unboxing videos. :D
I just have to get my hands on this thing (yes, that's what she said).

But still, to me eager anticipation is one of the more enjoyable sentiments. Makes it all the more awesome when I can finally fire up that glorious 670MX for some Assassin's Creed III. :p

Zeebo
10-27-2012, 07:56 PM
How about this... My birthday is on the 1st of November (it really is), lets make sure I can get this laptop shipped to me before my next work trip (next Monday)

Deal? O_o

syncope
10-27-2012, 10:06 PM
How about this... My birthday is on the 1st of November (it really is), lets make sure I can get this laptop shipped to me before my next work trip (next Monday)

Deal? O_o

I second that. ^^

fostert
10-28-2012, 05:59 AM
I know the N55 is supposed to be really good, I don't know about the N53. Still, good work at keeping the wife happy! :) Debian, you using? Which window manager?

TWM (Tom's Window Manager). I have used KDE, Gnome, FVWM, XFCE, and Fluxbox. Absolutely hate Gnome: every version I have ever used seems to break itself (Icons just disappear, menus disappear, settings randomly change). KDE is better, but too huge in memory, too bloated with its useless and broken "K-apps" which just try to do what other apps do (e.g. kpdf versus acrobat). I recently had an epiphany about window managers like KDE and even MS Windows: they simply try to do too much and end up doing much of it poorly and sacrificing other things like performance. I decided simple was best. TWM is the simplest of them all, and the leannest: I can boot linux on my G74 and be running X windows and TWM, all using only 165MB of RAM!! The other WMs are pretty good too (I like fluxbox), but there is something about the simplicity of TWM. But I'd even rather have to deal with GNOME than Microsoft Windows, which won't even load in less than 1.5GB of RAM.

Interesting discussions in this thread. My two cents as a very happy G74 owner: I don't game, but use my notebook as a DTR for my data intensive research. What I appreciate about the G74 is the ability to upgrade: i can put 32GB of RAM in it, and I could put in practically any mobile intel CPU out there today (there are many to choose from with the FCPGA988 socket, even the 3rd gen Ivys), and make it into a "workstation replacement". So I do understand that if I were a gamer, I would also want to be able to choose my GPU and make the most out of my G notebook. I would encourage ASUS to bring back a modular socketed GPU to the G series, and give the user the ability to upgrade the GPU just like one can the CPU. That way those who want to pack their notebook with the 675MX or the 680M can do so. If they violate the very tight tolerances of power and heat limits in a notebook, well...

Shadow_Black
10-28-2012, 09:08 AM
So, I decided to join 'cause I'm really into getting a G75VX as soon as it'out. (I'm not English speaking so sry if I make some errors)

I was about to order the G75VW when i saw this post so I decided to sit and spoil every kind of forum in order to get some info. I ended up being said that it will be probably avaiable from november and that it will be revealed next week, but I'm not that sure about that

Anyways, I can get the G75VW right now but Imma wait until the 10th (that's my deadline).

Clarify
10-28-2012, 09:19 AM
Hi Marshal!

Can you please let me know if it will be easier to replace the wlan card in this new model G75VX? As far as I know you must have a intel based wlan card to make WiDi work. This is really my only drawback for not buying Asus instead of a Clevo based laptop.

EDIT:
Just found out that WiDi also requires Intel HD Graphics which is disabled on the Asus. That's gonna "force" me to buy a Clevo instead :(
Hopefully Asus will release a model with Intel graphics enabled + easier access to the wlan card.

Adyghost
10-28-2012, 12:38 PM
Just signed up on this forum as I'm anxiously awaiting the G75VX. As with everyone else I have a few questions:

1. Will the new model include a different motherboard sporting an additional mSATA slot? That would really sell me on the model.
2. Will it have Optimus/Switchable Graphics enabled? Not really that big of a deal, but I feel like I'm paying for hardware (Intel HD 4000) that is unusable.
3. Would it be possible to cram a WD Green 2TB HDD in any of the G75 models? Yes, it's a 2.5" drive but 15mm thick... honestly I don't even know why it's on the market :)

Zeebo
10-28-2012, 04:47 PM
1. Will the new model include a different motherboard sporting an additional mSATA slot? That would really sell me on the model.
2. Will it have Optimus/Switchable Graphics enabled? Not really that big of a deal, but I feel like I'm paying for hardware (Intel HD 4000) that is unusable.
3. Would it be possible to cram a WD Green 2TB HDD in any of the G75 models? Yes, it's a 2.5" drive but 15mm thick... honestly I don't even know why it's on the market :)

1. Sadly, I dont see them changing the formfactor without naming the unit G76... Will undoubtedly be using the same formfactor as the G75GW
2. From what I have read (and I'm sure I'll either get corrected, or backed up on) if you get the 3D version of the G75VX, Switchable graphics will be disabled. As long as its a non-3D model, there should be no issues.
3. The hard drive you are talking about I believe is intended for Server solutions... but there is a 2TB model intended for laptops ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236348&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA )

Hope this helped you out =-D

Adyghost
10-28-2012, 06:29 PM
1. Sadly, I dont see them changing the formfactor without naming the unit G76... Will undoubtedly be using the same formfactor as the G75GW
2. From what I have read (and I'm sure I'll either get corrected, or backed up on) if you get the 3D version of the G75VX, Switchable graphics will be disabled. As long as its a non-3D model, there should be no issues.
3. The hard drive you are talking about I believe is intended for Server solutions... but there is a 2TB model intended for laptops ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236348&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA )

Hope this helped you out =-D
Thanks. Most of the threads I read suggest all models have Optimus disabled, regardless of the 3D option. And that's actually the hard drive I was referring to, it's 15mm thick so I was wondering if it fits in the G75. If it does I'd get that plus a caching SSD, if not... I'll just go with two 750GB hybrids :)

EDIT: Even the Newegg reviews warn the 2TB HDD won't fit in most, if any laptops. Too bad... especially since there's no mSATA slot.

Zygomorphic
10-28-2012, 07:07 PM
@fostert, I may have to try that window manager. I like LXDE a lot, personally. XFCE is also nice, I fail to see much of a difference between those two. Gnome is buggy, as is Unity (though it has gotten better), but KDE is far too bloated.

Clarify
10-28-2012, 07:22 PM
1. Sadly, I dont see them changing the formfactor without naming the unit G76... Will undoubtedly be using the same formfactor as the G75GW
2. From what I have read (and I'm sure I'll either get corrected, or backed up on) if you get the 3D version of the G75VX, Switchable graphics will be disabled. As long as its a non-3D model, there should be no issues.
3. The hard drive you are talking about I believe is intended for Server solutions... but there is a 2TB model intended for laptops ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236348&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA )

Hope this helped you out =-D

Are you absolutely sure about switchable graphic to Intel HD4000? I need to be sure cause not I'm unable to use Intels WiDi technology

Zygomorphic
10-28-2012, 07:33 PM
Are you absolutely sure about switchable graphic to Intel HD4000? I need to be sure cause not I'm unable to use Intels WiDi technology

None of the G-series use switchable graphics. Optimus cuts the performance because it requires the Intel card to do the screen-updating (think playing back a 1080p movie). Also, it entails OEM-only driver upgrades, which means that you get locked out of cool new features in the nVidia drivers.

Adyghost
10-28-2012, 07:52 PM
None of the G-series use switchable graphics. Optimus cuts the performance because it requires the Intel card to do the screen-updating (think playing back a 1080p movie). Also, it entails OEM-only driver upgrades, which means that you get locked out of cool new features in the nVidia drivers.
Me likey the thought of that... still, I suppose there are no mods implementing Optimus afterwards? The loss of WiDi is substantial to some people, not to mention the HD 4000 is leaps ahead previous versions.

WontonNoodle
10-28-2012, 08:08 PM
None of the G-series use switchable graphics. Optimus cuts the performance because it requires the Intel card to do the screen-updating (think playing back a 1080p movie). Also, it entails OEM-only driver upgrades, which means that you get locked out of cool new features in the nVidia drivers.

This is so false and factually wrong that it isn't even funny.

Zeebo
10-28-2012, 08:42 PM
What is Optimus?

Optimus is a technology by NVIDIA that automatically adjusts graphics based on how you're using the device to better conserve battery power on a laptop computer. Sometimes this is referred to as a hybrid graphics system.

How does Optimus work?

Optimus transitions between integrated graphics and a discrete GPU automatically based upon what applications a user launches so you can utilize high performance graphics during gameplay or when watching an HD movie. When you're done or are simply surfing the web, Optimus-enabled systems can switch to integrated graphics to prolong battery life, which is a win-win for users.

What are the benefits of using a laptop with Optimus technology?

The key benefit of using a notebook with Optimus technology is better battery life as the system isn't running the more power demanding discrete graphics card non-stop. By automatically switching between integrated graphics to a dedicated graphics card, you'll find battery life to improve in mixed computer usage situations. Since the system is done automatically, it also improved upon previous hybrid graphics systems that required the users to manually switch between the two graphics systems.

how Optimus works... I honestly don't see the performance decrease... it's not like AMD's solution O_o

Adyghost
10-28-2012, 08:54 PM
Figured we should get some news in the next couple of weeks. The G46 was announced on September 21 and it was released 4 days ago...

Zeebo
10-28-2012, 09:23 PM
idk if I can last a few weeks... my F5 key and this forum are taking a beating

fostert
10-28-2012, 10:19 PM
3. The hard drive you are talking about I believe is intended for Server solutions... but there is a 2TB model intended for laptops ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236348&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA )

I got excited about this until I read WD's fine print:
"Cannot be used in laptop or notebook computers. Designed for PCs and custom external enclosures. "

However, newegg's header says its an "Internal Notebook Hard Drive"

I'm soooo confused....

Adyghost
10-28-2012, 10:33 PM
Looks like I'm stuck with my 2X750GB Hybrid drives... IMO Asus would really benefit from an additional mSATA port in the G75 models.

Zeebo
10-28-2012, 11:24 PM
What I'm planning on getting a 256 SSD for OS/Main Program/Game Storage, using the 750 hybrid as additional Program/game storage, and using my networked 2TB drive for large storage duties

I have found that I have a hard time filling up 750 gigs solely with the programs and games that I play (Unless I get a bug up my ass to install EVERY GAME i have in my steam library)

Zygomorphic
10-29-2012, 12:39 AM
I got excited about this until I read WD's fine print:
"Cannot be used in laptop or notebook computers. Designed for PCs and custom external enclosures. "

However, newegg's header says its an "Internal Notebook Hard Drive"

I'm soooo confused....

Newegg gets things confused. I'd bet against it working. It might be pulling more power than most notebooks supply, in addition to being thicker.

Zeebo
10-29-2012, 03:45 AM
reading closer into it, it will be too big for almost all laptops... unless you want to modify your laptop to a degree (voiding warranty obviously)

fostert
10-29-2012, 04:22 AM
Newegg gets things confused. I'd bet against it working. It might be pulling more power than most notebooks supply, in addition to being thicker.
Power requirments @1.7W look normal for a laptop hard drive, so its probably just the thickness and maybe too the reduced airflow around it in tight spaces like notebooks. But the G74 has two HDD large bays with caddies, and its a big form factor with less cramped internal space..I wonder if one of these might fit in there w/o a caddy and work?? Gonna measure my G74 sometime this week.

Zeebo
10-29-2012, 04:40 AM
But the G74 has two HDD large bays with caddies, and its a big form factor with less cramped internal space..

Oooooo... never thought of that... let us know the size available! =-D

Adyghost
10-29-2012, 10:12 AM
What I'm planning on getting a 256 SSD for OS/Main Program/Game Storage, using the 750 hybrid as additional Program/game storage, and using my networked 2TB drive for large storage duties

I have found that I have a hard time filling up 750 gigs solely with the programs and games that I play (Unless I get a bug up my ass to install EVERY GAME i have in my steam library)
That's EXACTLY the bug I have, my gaming library runs close to 1TB :)

This waiting game should prove useful for my patience building... *sigh*

Shadow_Black
10-29-2012, 11:44 AM
Any news?

An official ASUS dealer here (Italy) told me that they will release some info this week, and that the PCs will be avaiable something like 10 days later....is that possible? I don't think so...What do you guys think?

Adyghost
10-29-2012, 11:51 AM
Waiting for Marshall to give us some obscure updates :) There's also one US reseller with back orders on 3 different models.

Shadow_Black
10-29-2012, 12:00 PM
But how long is it gonna take from announcment to have it in our hands?

It's just cause i ordered the G75VW about 2 months ago but then was able to deal for the G75VX when it will be released. So if I have to wait another month for the G75VX I'd probably get the G75VW. It's just a matter of waiting for me. And i HATE to wait
:p:p

Adyghost
10-29-2012, 12:39 PM
Personally I'd rather wait as long as it takes for the Windows 8 drivers to be ironed out and stable. Since the G46 was just released and expected in stores by December, that should give us an indication on when to expect the G75VX. Just my opinion.

Shadow_Black
10-29-2012, 01:23 PM
Personally I'd rather wait as long as it takes for the Windows 8 drivers to be ironed out and stable. Since the G46 was just released and expected in stores by December, that should give us an indication on when to expect the G75VX. Just my opinion.

So should I buy the G75VW now or wait for the VX?

Shadow_Black
10-29-2012, 01:23 PM
Personally I'd rather wait as long as it takes for the Windows 8 drivers to be ironed out and stable. Since the G46 was just released and expected in stores by December, that should give us an indication on when to expect the G75VX. Just my opinion.

So should I buy the G75VW now or wait for the VX?

Adyghost
10-29-2012, 01:31 PM
Your choice really... I'm waiting on the GTX 670MX personally. But I'm intrigued at the "enhancements" that Marshall was hinting at earlier in this thread. I would advise you to wait at least until the full specs on the G75VX come out.

c_man
10-29-2012, 01:35 PM
At this point you should wait.

Shadow_Black
10-29-2012, 02:48 PM
At this point you should wait.

I'll explain you all the real deal here, cause I'm a bit ashamed of myself.

I bought the G75VW from an asus point on ebay in july: sent my payment, had about 60 working days until shipment (cause was pre-ordering) and the 10 of october (end of the 60 days) i get a call from the seller telling me that if since they had me waiting so long I could have got the new version of the G75 if I was willing to wait until the firs days of november.

So that's the deal, I've already payed for something I really haven't seen yet. I also already bought a couple of games.

That's it :) that's why I'm so concerned with this laptop. 15 nov or 15 dec would make a great difference for me. Kinda like half a year for a notebook.

Adyghost
10-29-2012, 02:48 PM
All notebooks will get an upgrade as Microsoft will simply stop selling 7 in favor of 8 to OEMs like us. So likewise, if you really only want Windows 7, buy THIS month.
This may be a total noob question, but couldn't we just install Windows 7 ourselves afterwards? Drivers might be an issue or we could just use the G75VW ones... I'd like to stick with 7 for but I'm not willing to settle for the GTX 670M.

Shadow_Black
10-29-2012, 03:33 PM
This may be a total noob question, but couldn't we just install Windows 7 ourselves afterwards? Drivers might be an issue or we could just use the G75VW ones... I'd like to stick with 7 for but I'm not willing to settle for the GTX 670M.

I think that if MS stops selling Win7 they would just stop updating drivers for win7

Adyghost
10-29-2012, 03:37 PM
That's why OEM drivers will be an issue... *sigh*. On a positive note, Xotic PC started receiving the new G75s, already picked a custom skin for it :D God knows when they'll be up on their site...

Zeebo
10-29-2012, 04:38 PM
I think that if MS stops selling Win7 they would just stop updating drivers for win7

Look how long they kept supporting Windows XP... and Windows 8 is not nearly the mess Windows Vista was... There will be news about them no longer supporting Windows 7

Also, Windows 7/Windows 8 use similar subsystems... just Windows 8 is more streamlined (Much like Vista/Windows 7)

Adyghost
10-29-2012, 08:13 PM
Windows 8 drivers are up, bring on the VX!

Shabanag
10-29-2012, 09:04 PM
maybe i misunderstood something by reading in this topic.

is it true that asus has anounced their win8 setup on 26th? and is it true that there was no G75VX right?

so where are the information that there will be a further anouncement in the next weeks including a new G75VX and the release date?

I am looking for a gaming notebook since a few weeks .. and it would be very dissapointing if i buy an "outdated" G75VW and few days later the new one will be available.
But it`s impossible for me to wait more than 3 weeks .. need this notebook for work also!

excuse my bad english I`ve given my best.

Thanks for you answers!

Adyghost
10-29-2012, 09:15 PM
Well, even if they announce the VX this week it's still going to take a couple of weeks to build your system and have it shipped. And that is if any resellers will have the models up for sale as soon as the announcement is made. IMO if you can't wait another 2 weeks minimum I'd go for the VW.

Shabanag
10-29-2012, 10:01 PM
Well, even if they announce the VX this week it's still going to take a couple of weeks to build your system and have it shipped. And that is if any resellers will have the models up for sale as soon as the announcement is made. IMO if you can't wait another 2 weeks minimum I'd go for the VW.

sounds logical. thx.

so my personal deadline is november 19th.

so please asus hurry up ..

as i see, the VW model which i prefer isn't available on amazon.de anymore (only from 3rd party resellers) ..
and the VX Models are online but still "out of stock" :)

so i`ll keep my fingers crossed that it will be available till 19th november.

Greetz from Europe.

Adyghost
10-29-2012, 10:32 PM
One idea would be to e-mail some of the resellers asking what the ETA on a machine would be if you pre-ordered now. Might give you an indication time wise. Also, ask whether they offer rush assembly, some US resellers shave off a few days off building time for a fee.

john_from_ohio
10-30-2012, 12:29 AM
Yup the win 8 version of the G75VW was in best buys and selling on the 26th here in the US ... the new one ( I believe ) does have thunderbolt instead of mini display ( I think ).

The other new one people are talking about is the leaked/rumored G75VX ... full details on what that might have in it are not out yet ... even though Marshal hinted that details would be out by now.

Zeebo
10-30-2012, 03:35 AM
even though Marshal hinted that details would be out by now.

yeah marshal... where are these facts we so desperately want!

rogpach
10-30-2012, 05:33 AM
i pre ordered my g75vw here in a local store at september 26,2012.. they were out of stock at that time, and i already paid full price for it. so they said it would come a month from then. after 2 weeks or so i suddenly get a call from the manager saying VW is obsolete so they're sending me a VX instead. so the manager explained things to me that was not in the VW. since i cant say the specific specs, its really worth the wait if you ask me.

Zygomorphic
10-30-2012, 10:31 AM
i pre ordered my g75vw here in a local store at september 26,2012.. they were out of stock at that time, and i already paid full price for it. so they said it would come a month from then. after 2 weeks or so i suddenly get a call from the manager saying VW is obsolete so they're sending me a VX instead. so the manager explained things to me that was not in the VW. since i cant say the specific specs, its really worth the wait if you ask me.

Lucky duck! :) That's a score! The specs are better in every way.

Shadow_Black
10-30-2012, 01:09 PM
since i cant say the specific specs, its really worth the wait if you ask me.

WTF are u a CIA agent? tell us!!!!!!
;););)

Shadow_Black
10-30-2012, 03:18 PM
Saw this now...italian site...it says it's available from the seller.

http://www.giaca.it/home/art1/0/10021/12177/NOTEBOOK-ASUS-G75VX-CV006H-3D.html

Shawnnepc
10-30-2012, 03:44 PM
I'll have all my info on Nov 1st.

As long as it has no embargos i'll post what info I can.

c_man
10-30-2012, 04:18 PM
I'll explain you all the real deal here, cause I'm a bit ashamed of myself.

I bought the G75VW from an asus point on ebay in july: sent my payment, had about 60 working days until shipment (cause was pre-ordering) and the 10 of october (end of the 60 days) i get a call from the seller telling me that if since they had me waiting so long I could have got the new version of the G75 if I was willing to wait until the firs days of november.

So that's the deal, I've already payed for something I really haven't seen yet. I also already bought a couple of games.

That's it :) that's why I'm so concerned with this laptop. 15 nov or 15 dec would make a great difference for me. Kinda like half a year for a notebook.

WOW. Well, I think the best option is to wait. Even if it means 15 dec. You will use this laptop for a few years.

Zeebo
10-30-2012, 05:39 PM
I'll have all my info on Nov 1st.

As long as it has no embargos i'll post what info I can.

Whoa Whoa Whoa.... So we will know something... on my BIRTHDAY?! w00t w00t!!!

Adyghost
10-30-2012, 05:56 PM
Seriously though, we already know the upgraded processor and graphics chip, plus thunderbolt... I wonder what else is there to get excited about.

Shadow_Black
10-30-2012, 06:03 PM
Seriously though, we already know the upgraded processor and graphics chip, plus thunderbolt... I wonder what else is there to get excited about.

it's gonna have Floppy Disk IMHO

Adyghost
10-30-2012, 06:28 PM
Finally! :D

_
10-31-2012, 02:27 AM
Seriously though, we already know the upgraded processor and graphics chip, plus thunderbolt... I wonder what else is there to get excited about.

.ac wireless too. Not sure if just an option or standard at this time.

Manfred
10-31-2012, 04:44 AM
So I added the G75VW to my cart along with a backpack, a mouse, and some games when I decided to do a last minute check of the forum I'd just signed up for and I find this!

So. Questions.

Is it worth it to wait for whenever the G75VX becomes available?
Will it come with a backpack and mouse?
What will pricing be like?

I'll probably have to wait 'till they announce it to get answers but. . . couldn't hurt to ask right?

Ohh!! And a big thanks to MarshallR@ASUS for this nouncement!!! :D

Zeebo
10-31-2012, 05:02 AM
Is it worth it to wait for whenever the G75VX becomes available?
Will it come with a backpack and mouse?
What will pricing be like?

Only if you were looking at the 670m model is it really worth it. The VX introduces the new 670mx, which is kepler and will be 10-20% performance increase from the current 670m
I'm sure there will be options that include this... or different packages
Pricing will be similar to what it currently is... ASUS is looking to stay within this price range

From sounds/feel of forum it looks like it will be available after November 1st, but only time will tell... =-D

hope that helps!

Manfred
10-31-2012, 06:17 AM
Thanks Zeebo!!!
Really not much of a problem to wait though. Current netbook works just fine for now. So I'll just patiently wait for news.

_
10-31-2012, 06:47 AM
From sounds/feel of forum it looks like it will be available after November 1st, but only time will tell... =-D

hope that helps!

I'm waiting for word down from the heavens (14F, I work on 4th) as you are ;)

Tudor
10-31-2012, 06:52 AM
had the 51jx, now the 53jw and planning to replace it with a 17" model. Now, on my usual dealer's site you can preorder the VX, but on the specs sheet it appears the 670M as gpu and I've asked them if that's an error or not.....still no reply.

All vxs have 670mx ? Or there might be some strange editions ?

The wireless charging is for sure an option ?

_
10-31-2012, 06:58 AM
ALL VX's have the MX, yes. Maybe they missed off the X :(

Wireless charging? This is news to me, I don't expect it. WiFi change to include 802.11ac is the only 'wireless' change I know of.

If you're seeing it on your dealers list we're close to retail in at least one region! Woohoo!

Tudor
10-31-2012, 07:13 AM
ALL VX's have the MX, yes. Maybe they missed off the X :(

Wireless charging? This is news to me, I don't expect it. WiFi change to include 802.11ac is the only 'wireless' change I know of.

If you're seeing it on your dealers list we're close to retail in at least one region! Woohoo!

thanks for the info...then for sure they have misspelled
yep they have it in with 3 variants and 3 weeks shipping time....so maybe after 15 November sometime

as for the wireless charging maybe I have misread your previous post

another question: do you know/are allowed to tell what 256gb ssd you offer ? If you can't say the brand can you at least say the read and write speeds for it?

Adyghost
10-31-2012, 11:53 AM
I'm usually a patient guy but the availability wait is killing me... already picked a custom skin for it too :D

Tudor
10-31-2012, 01:42 PM
I'm usually a patient guy but the availability wait is killing me... already picked a custom skin for it too :D


if it helps you in any way the launch date in Germany is 8 November.

Adyghost
10-31-2012, 02:10 PM
Thanks, hopefully tomorrow will shed some light on things.

Tudor
11-01-2012, 09:29 AM
my dealer wrote me back....it says that is really the 670m on them. :/

replied to him to check again since everyone else lists them with 670mx, but I might consider looking elsewhere since I don't want any nasty surprises

Zygomorphic
11-01-2012, 10:24 AM
my dealer wrote me back....it says that is really the 670m on them. :/

replied to him to check again since everyone else lists them with 670mx, but I might consider looking elsewhere since I don't want any nasty surprises

It is possible that he doesn't know the difference. I would look at the box when it is in store.

BornSupercharged
11-01-2012, 11:10 AM
Is Windows 8 the only option? If so I'm glad I got my G75 670M with Windows 7.

Adyghost
11-01-2012, 11:41 AM
I'm sure you can install Windows 7 afterwards but there will be some driver limitations... and of course you'll need to buy system builder disc.

Shadow_Black
11-01-2012, 12:59 PM
Is Windows 8 the only option? If so I'm glad I got my G75 670M with Windows 7.

why is everybody so disappointed? have u even tried win 8 yet?? I didn't...but I'm not either relying on reviews or stuff like that! I just wait to have my G75VX with Win8 to give it a chance!

MEX
11-01-2012, 02:14 PM
so its the first Marshall... how much more do we have to suffer?

Adyghost
11-01-2012, 02:31 PM
We suffer as long as Marshall suffers, i.e. until he hears from the boys upstairs.

Tudor
11-01-2012, 02:37 PM
windows 8 is very good.
my system is more stable and responsive....also faster

i have upgraded from 7 via download and after a week of using it I didn't manage to find any shortcomings compared to the 7.
all my software works ...I didn't reinstall a thing ! I am very happy with windows 8.....so happy that I have preordered a win 8 phone :D

pongkie
11-01-2012, 03:25 PM
I tried windows 8 without touch and with touch, tried small screen big screen. I found out there is a big difference, windows 8 is really for touch its not for mouse people like me the start screen will always get in the way. I hope this laptop comes out with some form of touch screen. windows app store may not be mature yet but it will get there and i hope this laptop will be ready for that.

Tudor
11-01-2012, 03:39 PM
I tried windows 8 without touch and with touch, tried small screen big screen. I found out there is a big difference, windows 8 is really for touch its not for mouse people like me the start screen will always get in the way. I hope this laptop comes out with some form of touch screen. windows app store may not be mature yet but it will get there and i hope this laptop will be ready for that.



they have no touch screen whatsoever, the VXs.

My system launches 7.3 seconds faster than when I had the 7 on so a click to get into the old desktop it's quite ok...also the metro interface is not in the way of being productive ....I use it for news and weather which now are a glance away (and i presume you could use it for social stuff as well if you are the type) ...no more need to open new tabs or look into search engines and use the space in the working desktop.

so why do you need the touch screen ? you intend to use a gaming laptop like a poor tablet ?
I work and play on my laptop ...almost all my work is computer related........ and I am more satisfied with how win 8 is performing than win 7.

sorry but I don't see where your comment is coming from

pongkie
11-01-2012, 03:48 PM
they have no touch screen whatsoever, the VXs.

My system launches 7.3 seconds faster than when I had the 7 on so a click to get into the old desktop it's quite ok...also the metro interface is not in the way of being productive ....I use it for news and weather which now are a glance away (and i presume you could use it for social stuff as well if you are the type) ...no more need to open new tabs or look into search engines and use the space in the working desktop.

so why do you need the touch screen ? you intend to use a gaming laptop like a poor tablet ?
I work and play on my laptop ...almost all my work is computer related........ and I am more satisfied with how win 8 is performing than win 7.

sorry but I don't see where your comment is coming from

you may not see it now but once the app store grows you'll wish it have one. I doesn't mean its a gaming pc it has to be stuck as gaming pc. have you tried a touch screen windows 8? I did when MS did windows 8 sampling in our area they brought a bunch of computers without and with touch, big and small screen, RT and Windows 8 so thats where my comments are comming from.

edit: i would like to add during the sampling the laptops without touch is the least favored by the crowd. people always surround the ones with touch.

Tudor
11-01-2012, 04:02 PM
you may not see it now but once the app store grows you'll wish it have one. I doesn't mean its a gaming pc it has to be stuck as gaming pc. have you tried a touch screen windows 8? I did when MS did windows 8 sampling in our area they brought a bunch of computers without and with touch, big and small screen, RT and Windows 8 so thats where my comments are comming from.

you do understand that I have a win 8 phone preordered, right ?

for me the laptop needs to do other things than a tablet or a smartphone......and having win 8 and not having a touch screen it's really not something that bothers me and I think no one who's considering buying the VXs should be bothered by this aspect :)

sorry if I come off a little too strong

pongkie
11-01-2012, 04:11 PM
you do understand that I have a win 8 phone preordered, right ?

for me the laptop needs to do other things than a tablet or a smartphone......and having win 8 and not having a touch screen it's really not something that bothers me and I think no one who's considering buying the VXs should be bothered by this aspect :)

sorry if I come off a little too strong

it's okay.... your getting a windows phone i'm getting jelly. Im still stuck with my old android and can't do the smart glass thingy because it cant have ICS

Tudor
11-01-2012, 04:16 PM
it's okay.... your getting a windows phone i'm getting jelly. Im still stuck with my old android and can't do the smart glass thingy because it cant have ICS

maybe you've misunderstood me : I mean I understand the perks of touch screen and win 8 that's why i get the phone but for a decent laptop like the VX are other things that come first....for a netbook on the other hand a touch screen with win 8 might be a must

pongkie
11-01-2012, 04:24 PM
maybe you've misunderstood me : I mean I understand the perks of touch screen and win 8 that's why i get the phone but for a decent laptop like the VX are other things that come first....for a netbook on the other hand a touch screen with win 8 might be a must

netbooks is good for touch.... but wierdly in the windows 8 exibit i find the big AIO touch to my liking. I just wish it had more power.

Shabanag
11-01-2012, 04:50 PM
if it helps you in any way the launch date in Germany is 8 November.

Where did you get that info?

i am tired of reading info`s without any reference ...

and would it be possible to get back 2 topic ... windows 8 hate threads are just round the corner :)

Adyghost
11-01-2012, 05:01 PM
Seconded, where's that info at? Predicting another sad day...

syncope
11-01-2012, 07:35 PM
Where did you get that info?

i am tired of reading info`s without any reference ...

He got it from here, I saw it too:
http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/3580422_-g75vx-asus.html
However they edited that by now, most shops now say it's shippable in late November.
Only www.cyberport.de still lists it for November 15th.

You guys just need to relax. Consider reading a good book for a change, or doing some Yoga :D. We know the VX is real, we know it's got the 670MX and the i7 3630QM and it's definitely coming this month as Asus wouldn't want to miss the Windows 8 launch. So to anyone who says he can't wait a few more weeks for the VX: Sucks to be you, because I'm sure as hell gonna enjoy every single one of dat extra 20% in performance I'll be getting in comparison with the VW. :p

Tudor
11-01-2012, 09:16 PM
I will most certainly wait.....the G53JW can work another month :D
it was from conrad.com and it's still the same date...8 Nov.
and the misspelling (by which they still stand :D) was on computeruniverse.de - the site which I use for buying IT related stuff.

Adyghost
11-01-2012, 09:32 PM
In the meantime I might as well watch Windows 8 tutorials...

Zeebo
11-02-2012, 02:42 AM
If the US has to wait 2 more weeks before I can throw my money at ASUS... I might go crazy... lol

StigtriX
11-02-2012, 06:04 AM
More info today then?
I made a user just because of the G75VX. I will need a powerful laptop within a month or so.
Make it official, please, I'm going crazy if I can't order it soon :S

WontonNoodle
11-02-2012, 07:02 AM
Will there be many editions of the VX like the VW? Will all of them have the 670MX or will some have the 660 or 670m like with the G75VW?

MEX
11-02-2012, 01:48 PM
oh!... f... it!..... Im buying alienware.

Adyghost
11-02-2012, 02:19 PM
Funny, I've owned 3 generations of Alienware M17x and now I'm switching to Asus

MEX
11-02-2012, 03:05 PM
im getting kind of desperate of waiting, so why are you switching to ASUS???

Silver-Eye
11-02-2012, 03:07 PM
A pitty. That doesent come out in the Us till the 9th of this month... ill have to go to the VW.. leaving the country at the 10th :(

Adyghost
11-02-2012, 03:18 PM
Where did you get that info Silver-Eye?

MEX, I can't quite explain why I'm tired of the Alienware, I've been pretty lucky quality wise. The R1 was a great machine, the R2 had some problems, mainly XFire (2X5970) and other hardware related issues. The build quality on the R3 was pretty shoddy, had my first unit replaced only to have the sides detach from the chassis on my second unit. Also, I really got tired of the car grill look and lights everywhere... Otherwise it's a great machine if you manage to get a good build right out of the box and wait until it's around 20% off.

Silver-Eye
11-02-2012, 04:54 PM
Where did you get that info Silver-Eye?

MEX, I can't quite explain why I'm tired of the Alienware, I've been pretty lucky quality wise. The R1 was a great machine, the R2 had some problems, mainly XFire (2X5970) and other hardware related issues. The build quality on the R3 was pretty shoddy, had my first unit replaced only to have the sides detach from the chassis on my second unit. Also, I really got tired of the car grill look and lights everywhere... Otherwise it's a great machine if you manage to get a good build right out of the box and wait until it's around 20% off.

Sorry, should explained better.. I am assuming for now, that will be the release date according to websites in germany and italy.. amazon uk has it, but without a release date too.. its strange because laptops always get announced first in the us, and after a few weeks in europe..
By the way found a american website that says that will have it this month for sale..

Adyghost
11-02-2012, 05:03 PM
Yeah, my reseller said they have been receiving units since last week... who knows when they'll be up on their site.

MEX
11-02-2012, 05:17 PM
Of course Im going to wait for the VX, I personally think alienware is overprice. The best cost/performance in the market for this type of computers i think is the ASUS G SERIES. So I will wait, I was just hetting desperate, hope the release is going to be soon................... question... What opinion do you guys have about G SERIES in relation to rendering and 3d modeling programs?.... Im planning to use my Gseries for work too. (3dmax, maya, autoCAD, etc etc etc................ sorry about my english. I know it sucks

Silver-Eye
11-02-2012, 05:31 PM
Lol just checked the laptop on a website like pricechecker, and there are 15 shops announcing the laptop.. and several say they have in stock (wich I dont belive) one big european chain has it for preorder and delivery announced for the 9th the store is Fnac, for those who know it.. by the way I llive in Portugal..

Ps- ill go to the vw because my brother willbuy it in the us. (He is there till the 10th). the difference of price of buying it in the us and portugal is around 900 dollars :/ (cheaper in the us the vw model)

Skull6
11-02-2012, 06:52 PM
Wow. I can't believe I just read this whole thread. Many good points, but please bear with me as I put forth why I purchased a G75VW back in June of this year--& in the process, explain how I, an Asus customer now, go about choosing computing devices/ components.

I start with determining just what my intended uses will be. I wasn't looking for an 8-cylinder supercharged powerhouse containing all of the "latest & greatest" for games, but was looking for a tool for work that was more portable than my desktop, something that would still allow me to produce high-resolution graphics (& subsequently show them to customers on the same screen), something that could handle working with LARGE image (aerial) files in differing GIS software packages, something that would allow video editting at a decent rate, and something that could handle 3D video "fly-thrus" of other packages I've developed. (While I understand that "intense gaming" is a valid use for computing devices, it was not part of my decision package to purchase the G75VW.)

I then look at what the market has to offer. I had about a month to do my research, so things that were "still in development" or "coming soon" were not going to fill my need. I was pretty much stuck with 1) what the market already offered or 2) what I could get component-wise to build quickly. (I erred on the side of caution & decided to concentrate on current market offerings, as I have never built a laptop--only desktops.)

At this point I started putting 2 & 2 together, & ended up purchasing the G75VW. I anticipated some "ribbing," as this was to be a "work" computer, but it had the distinct look of a gaming computer. As long as it functioned such that it perfomed my intended uses well enough, I decided to live with whatever snide comments I'd receive.

& I have been nothing but amazed at this product. It fulfills my needs & then some! In the few months I have been using it, I have upgraded my graphics software to take advantage of the increased horsepower of this beast. & yes, I've rediscovered "gaming" (my wife is referring to this time in my life as my "2nd childhood" ;) ).

All the comments/ arguments I've read here are probably valid--at least I'll assume so (for the most part), as I've never really dabbled into "benching" (but I am now more interested in doing so). One thing I will share that I've learned over time is that if what you're looking for is that "next shiny thing," that's what you're sure to get. I'd stress that, in addition to "performance" & "price," you need to look to fulfill your anticipated needs, incorporating them into your decision equation as well. Money doesn't grow on trees, but I'll not be the one to tell you how to spend yours. For me, I'd rather be able to brag about the skill that my cumputing device allows me to demonstrate over the "eye-candy." But that isn't to discount in any way those who want to brag about the eye-candy" that their computing device shows. All I'd urge you to do is think about what you really want the device to be able to help you achieve. (& yes, I also understand that you can't fit 5 pounds of "stuff" in a 4 pound bag overnight. BUT...I have the utmost confidence in hardware engineers out there to be able to do so...soon.)

P.S. & for those of you here who will settle for nothing less than a laptop with the horsepower to actually launch the next manned flight into space...I call "SHOTGUN"!!! ;)

Individ
11-02-2012, 07:56 PM
That's why OEM drivers will be an issue... *sigh*. On a positive note, Xotic PC started receiving the new G75s, already picked a custom skin for it :D God knows when they'll be up on their site...

Where did you hear/read this info? It is good news none the less, as I'll most likely be purchasing the VX from them! (I've been checking this thread and their website daily) lol :)

Adyghost
11-02-2012, 08:07 PM
I asked my sales agent. He probably won't be able to give me a specific date until Asus releases the official info.

Zeebo
11-02-2012, 08:08 PM
Will there be many editions of the VX like the VW? Will all of them have the 670MX or will some have the 660 or 670m like with the G75VW?

They won't need to release any 660m or 670m models because they are already available, the VX will undoubtedly be unique to the 670MX... There may be remakes, but the info leads me to believe the VX model will be 670MX only

Zeebo
11-02-2012, 08:12 PM
What opinion do you guys have about G SERIES in relation to rendering and 3d modeling programs?.... Im planning to use my Gseries for work too. (3dmax, maya, autoCAD, etc etc etc................

If you really need it for 3d modeling programs, i would use the 670m benchmarks for those programs (there should be some available on the internet) because the 670mx will have that performance or better, so you are covering the worst case scenario for it, while expecting best... Until we get benchmarks for the 670mx, I am expecting 670m performance, but hoping for 10-20% increase (I expect the worse and hope for the best)


** no true reviews on the 670mx yet, but regardless, it will be using the new superior Kepler infrastructure, which according to the 660m, runs cooler, faster, and more efficient than anything else **

StereoROG
11-02-2012, 10:31 PM
I just want to acknowledge what you wrote there and you wrote it really well.

If a human being is offered too much choice then it becomes an issue, red an article about it so the way you structured your thoughts of making this decision is like a headshot :)

Cheers,

maoli
11-03-2012, 10:33 AM
If you really need it for 3d modeling programs, i would use the 670m benchmarks for those programs (there should be some available on the internet) because the 670mx will have that performance or better, so you are covering the worst case scenario for it, while expecting best... Until we get benchmarks for the 670mx, I am expecting 670m performance, but hoping for 10-20% increase (I expect the worse and hope for the best)

Then you should be hoping for a 40% increase, because that's how much faster it really is:) I'm talking about compute performance NOT gaming performance. The 670mx is almost as fast as a desktop 560Ti if that helps any. Unfortunately (there's always a BUT, isn't there)? it all depends on how well the software you wanna run is CUDA optimized. It also depends on Kepler support vs Fermi support.

If Autodesk (Flame, Maya, 3ds, AutoCAD, etc) plays well with Kepler, then the answer is YES the VX is worth the wait (for compute). In fact I'd go as far as to say it's MANDATORY:)

Another interesting tidbit you guys might like to know is that the 670mx is EXACTLY as fast as the 675mx (no, that's not a typo) and ~20% faster than last year's 580m.

I'll say it again just so we're clear... at COMPUTE not gaming:)

StigtriX
11-03-2012, 10:38 AM
Thanks for the info, Maoli. That's quite interesting.
Now the only thing we need is the official info and especially the info about the new, unknown feature...

Shadow_Black
11-03-2012, 06:43 PM
BTW I'm dying here....

Zeebo
11-04-2012, 03:00 AM
BTW I'm dying here....
You and me both brother.... I've had to replace my F5 key 3 times so far waiting... lol

Tudor
11-04-2012, 07:56 AM
well at least the time passed waiting allowed a little research and made the VX seem not to be the best bang for the buck out there. So I might steer away from it. Still, asus reliability might bring me back :D as I am pretty pleased with my g53

Mikero
11-04-2012, 09:06 AM
well at least the time passed waiting allowed a little research and made the VX seem not to be the best bang for the buck out there. So I might steer away from it. Still, asus reliability might bring me back :D as I am pretty pleased with my g53
As far as gaming notebooks go, there are only a couple of bad boys laptops similar to Asus G75 series which are MSIs GT series and Toshibas Qosmio, none of which are significantly cheaper. Plus none of that come even close to the level cool (IMO).

Might I ask you what laptop made you steer away from the G75VX?

P.S. Prices are not officially announced right?

Tudor
11-04-2012, 10:49 AM
As far as gaming notebooks go, there are only a couple of bad boys laptops similar to Asus G75 series which are MSIs GT series and Toshibas Qosmio, none of which are significantly cheaper. Plus none of that come even close to the level cool (IMO).

Might I ask you what laptop made you steer away from the G75VX?

P.S. Prices are not officially announced right?

The price for the model I was considering is found here http://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90486764/asus-g75vx-t4020h.asp ....and add an SSD as well for me to install. So the minimum price will be 1760euros. (I say minimum because I have preordered gadgets before and prices have only risen from the time I've made the deposit)

I don't care about aesthetics .... although I appreciate a good design in everything there are some cases where I couldn't care less about it if there are things to make up for it. The laptop is one of them and because I can get more performance for the same kind of money for me it's quite nonsense not to go with that option. The only fact remains the aforementioned reliability which will be a risc factor that I will decide in a couple of days if it's worth taking. Having used a g53 for a couple of years without problems weights on asus's side.

The other option is none of which you've mentioned....is a custom builder from germany....much like the ones you find in the us...sager, eurocom, compal, etc. Nevertheless if you are not from germany or in close proximity as I am I don't think it's a viable option for you due to shipping costs and warranty working on a bring-it-in scheme. (pick-up by them valid only for germany).