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Andili
10-13-2012, 11:32 AM
Hi guys,

I was just wondering if i could use my 5 year old SATA HDD From my retired Toshiba Qosmio Laptop as my second HDD.
And if so, how can i format it and adjust it to my G75VW BBK5 with 16GB ram.

Here are the Specs:

HTS541616J Specifications
Interface Serial ATA (1.5Gb/sec.)
Capacity 160GB
Speed 5,400 rpm
Cache 8MB
Media Transfer Rate 540 Mb/sec.
Power Requirements 5V 5%
Current Seek 1.8W; Idle .65W
Load/Unload Cycles 600,000
Acoustics Idle 2.5 bel; Random read/write 2.7 bel
Average Seek Time 11 ms
Average Latency 5.5 ms
Shock Operating 325G; Non-operating 1,000G
Dimensions
(w x h x d) 9.5 mm x 70.0 mm x 100.0 mm
0.37" x 2.76" x 3.94"
Operating Temperature Operating 5C ~ 55C; non-operating -40C ~ 65C
Operating Humidity 5% ~ 90% (relative humidity; non-condensing)




Andy

freefall
10-13-2012, 12:52 PM
There should be no problem. Just open the G75 panel at the bottom and put in the drive that's it. No special skills needed.

Andili
10-13-2012, 02:57 PM
@freefall,
Thanks for your replay, I did exactly that and now i can see 3 partitions on My Computer.

What if ı want to use this 160GB Sata HDD as my system partition and the 1 TB that came with the laptop for my docs, Games...ect.
would this work as well?


cheers


Andy

rewben
10-13-2012, 03:29 PM
@Andili, yes it will work, but a 5400-rpm drive is slow, and it's a waste if you do that to your g75.

g75 works even better if you could invest in a decent SSD. normally, we will use a SSD as OS drive with fresh windows install, and put the stock drive as the storage drive (that is, after you are sure your system is stabilized). as for your old 160gb old drive, you should consider putting it in an external enclosure.

Andili
10-13-2012, 03:45 PM
@rewben,

The stock HDD is a 1TB 5400 RPM thats why i thought it would work.
Do you think it would slow down my system even more?




cheers



Andy

rewben
10-13-2012, 04:06 PM
i'm not sure if it slows your system down.

although both are 5400-rpm drives, your 1TB HDD should be SATA II (3.0Gb/s), while your 160gb HDD is SATA I (1.5Gb/s). the difference might have some impact to the performance.

Andili
10-13-2012, 04:12 PM
ahh ok İ didnt think of that!
I might give it a try but i think you are right and i should buy a new SSD for my system.


thanks rewben

rewben
10-13-2012, 04:17 PM
you're welcome :)

freefall
10-13-2012, 05:03 PM
5400 RPM is ok for movies and music and stuff, but starting an OS or loading a game from it will take more time. What I have now is a 120GB SSD for my OS, programs and games, and another 750GB HDD for my movies and music and other stuff. So my advice is ditch the 160GB (or make it an external one) and substitute it with an SSD and you can leave the 1TB HDD inside for the capacity.

Andili
10-13-2012, 06:33 PM
Hi freefall,

I followed rewben and your advice and bought a Western Digital 750GB sata 7200 rpm HDD.


cheers for your replay



Andy

bignazpwns
10-13-2012, 09:53 PM
If we wanna get crazy we dont need ssd's for fast storage :)

Pick up 2 1tb 7,200 rpm drives then short stroke them to about 150gigs each then raid them in RAID0 and you got a 300gig drive that's pretty close to the speed of a SSD. Yes its not super easy but its not to hard. When i short stroked my veliciraptors overall they were as fast as a SSD however the seek time sucked it was about 4.8ms but not to bad. But i do have 2 new 1tb veliciraptors that im tempted to cram in the G75 and test out assuming the G75 can power them.

rewben
10-14-2012, 03:32 AM
I followed rewben and your advice and bought a Western Digital 750GB sata 7200 rpm HDD.


oh. no, we meant you should get a SSD (solid state drive), not HDD (hard disk drive), so that your machine can run much faster (i.e. OS boot time of under 20secs; much improved load times of apps and games). regardless of its rpm, a HDD is very much slower than a SSD.

a g75 supports up to SATA III (6.0Gb/s) for both HDD bays. to make full use of the bandwidth, typically we use a 120gb-256gb SSD for OS drive that stores OS, apps and games. we put other stuff in the stock HDD drive (i.e. make it as storage only).

i think you can buy a good 120gb SSD with the same price with 750gb 7200-rpm HDD.

Andili
10-14-2012, 10:21 AM
If we wanna get crazy we dont need ssd's for fast storage :)

Pick up 2 1tb 7,200 rpm drives then short stroke them to about 150gigs each then raid them in RAID0 and you got a 300gig drive that's pretty close to the speed of a SSD. Yes its not super easy but its not to hard. When i short stroked my veliciraptors overall they were as fast as a SSD however the seek time sucked it was about 4.8ms but not to bad. But i do have 2 new 1tb veliciraptors that im tempted to cram in the G75 and test out assuming the G75 can power them.

Hi bignazpwns,

İ will get back to you, your suggestion sounds promising.
My new HDD should arrive in a week or two.
Would you mind explaining to me how to short stroke a HDD?

Thanks very much



Andy

Andili
10-14-2012, 10:27 AM
Hi Rewben,

Hmm i guess i will have life with the SATA HDD for a while, my mistake really!
Well the one i bought is a 7200RPM so at least i will speed up my system a little bit.
İ will get back to you as soon as i bought the SSD, if you dont mind.



thanks again rewben




Andy

rewben
10-14-2012, 11:07 AM
Hi Rewben,

Hmm i guess i will have life with the SATA HDD for a while, my mistake really!
Well the one i bought is a 7200RPM so at least i will speed up my system a little bit.
İ will get back to you as soon as i bought the SSD, if you dont mind.


yeah it's nothing wrong to use a HDD in g75, as long as you're ok with it :)

john_from_ohio
10-14-2012, 03:31 PM
Pick up 2 1tb 7,200 rpm drives then short stroke them to about 150gigs each then raid them in RAID0 and you got a 300gig drive that's pretty close to the speed of a SSD.

Not even close ...

A really really bad idea and given the price ranges of a 180 gb or 256 gb ssd currently ... probably a more expensive solution that is a much worse performer ...

Try writing a little c program that alternates reads and writes on your first and last cylinders of any spinning disk.

Get the same relative first/last cylinders of any modern ssd and run it again.

Andili
10-14-2012, 03:37 PM
Not even close ...

A really really bad idea and given the price ranges of a 180 gb or 256 gb ssd currently ... probably a more expensive solution that is a much worse performer ...

Try writing a little c program that alternates reads and writes on your first and last cylinders of any spinning disk.

Get the same relative first/last cylinders of any modern ssd and run it again.


Hi John,

I mean no disrespect but i have no idea what you are talking about:confused:


cheers Andy

c_man
10-14-2012, 04:10 PM
He says that a HDD RAID is not ast fast as one SSD. I don't like RAID in general. Just get a SSD from Samsung or Intel.

Or is space is very important, SSH. Works rather well.

Andili
10-14-2012, 06:43 PM
Hmm ok I understand,

Unfortunately i already bought the SATA HDD.
But I will keep your suggestions in mind and will buy a SSD in the near future.

Thanks everybody for your suggestions, Tips and Replays, I really apprechiate it.



Andy

john_from_ohio
10-14-2012, 08:09 PM
But I will keep your suggestions in mind and will buy a SSD in the near future.


Have fun Andy!

Once you start running a computer that boots from and runs the programs from an ssd ... you won't want to even remember what the old days were like.

Andili
10-15-2012, 04:34 AM
Thanks John,

I can imagine and honestly can,t wait.




Andy

c_man
10-15-2012, 10:46 AM
Have fun Andy!

Once you start running a computer that boots from and runs the programs from an ssd ... you won't want to even remember what the old days were like.

Not quite true, I'm proof of that. A fast car is amazing if you can use it.

Andili
10-15-2012, 03:57 PM
Hi c_man,

Dont really know what you mean, sorry.




Andy

c_man
10-15-2012, 04:48 PM
There is life after SSD :D

I'm happy with more space and SSH performance as well.

Andili
10-15-2012, 06:09 PM
Ahh ok,


Same here, but in the near future i will probably give the SSD a try.
Thanks for you suggestion and opinion!




Andy