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HiVizMan
10-28-2012, 02:42 PM
hey hivizman,check your pm please :)

Alex looking forward to seeing some of your times mate.

Chino
10-28-2012, 06:20 PM
Trying to stay in the game lol. :p Minor gain but a gain nonetheless.

SuperPi score: 9sec 344ms
13093


SuperPi 32m score: 8min 22sec 931ms
13094

Henkenator68NL
10-28-2012, 07:55 PM
Chino!! ??
32m score : 6min39sec244ms ????? The picture says something completely different ....
8m22.931s
Thats a whole different cooky !! :confused:

Chino
10-28-2012, 08:02 PM
My bad lol. Copied and pasted the code from another post and forgot to change the last title.


Edit: Fixed. Thanks, Henk!

Arne Saknussemm
10-28-2012, 08:04 PM
and Arne brings some news in X79 standing

No pressure lol;) I have squeezed the timings of my RAM to values it wouldn't have believed possible when it left the GSkill factory.... even tried and got CAS 6 but no time gain...not sure the calculation evens out RAM or platform only got 1600 kits here...

http://hwbot.org/user/arne_saknussemm/

i73930K @ 3465MHz
Rampage IV Extreme
Cooling H2O Custom loop
RAM Gskill Z series 1600MHz @ 1680

1M
13095
32M
13096
13097

HiVizMan
10-28-2012, 08:07 PM
Chino 56055.91

Arne 56977.70

Second place changes hands once again and Arne dips below the 57000 mark for the first time. Looking good guys.


Now I need you guys to do something for me, has anyone been able to install any version of XP on either the Maximus 5 Extreme or the Maximus 5 Formula? I had to use the M4E board as I was getting an odd error code each and every time.

Henk has been having the same problem as I.

Arne Saknussemm
10-28-2012, 08:29 PM
Excellent! well chuffed with that! :D

Can't help on the XP issue...strange thing though!

Henkenator68NL
10-28-2012, 09:24 PM
Nice Job Arne and Chino! Maybe we should really put our efforts together. So I invite you guys for coffee and some nice dutch cake. Lets say 10:00 am at my house tomorrow? LolHowever... Not such a bad idea maybe to setup a skype meeting and discuss about our findings - and possibly premature- conclusions so far. If ofcourse we can find some point of the day that covers the globe, without disturbing Wife and family in the middle of the night. LolWell so far it is a nice challenge it gives a whole different perspective off benching. The learning curve is much steeper than random benching! I like it.Happy tweaking!Henk

Arne Saknussemm
10-28-2012, 10:01 PM
LOL Henkenator...the cake sounded good! This is fun stuff indeed. the things I've learned ....I now have a black-belt in Wazza and I could only get more intimate with my RAM if I married it. by the end of this we should have Pi pretty much calculated ;)

Zka17
10-28-2012, 10:31 PM
Now I need you guys to do something for me, has anyone been able to install any version of XP on either the Maximus 5 Extreme or the Maximus 5 Formula? I had to use the M4E board as I was getting an odd error code each and every time.

Henk has been having the same problem as I.

Is that problem by chance an error code of 0x7B? right after the Windows setup finished copying the files... - I did got that code on my MVG until I changed the SATA mode to IDE...

HiVizMan
10-28-2012, 10:51 PM
Yeah that is the one, and even with IDE mode we could not get it to work. You were successful with the M5E?


And to the guys cake and coffee sound good, yeah it is fun to bench this way. I would be happy to have this thread as the place we discuss our findings and the way forward, Skype excludes people. You can not believe the number of PM's I am getting from folks who have never benched and are loving this thread. Guys wanting to join in and maybe they will. And the more we talk and share the more folks will be interested. So lets use this thread and let all learn.

Myk SilentShadow
10-29-2012, 12:03 AM
Here's how you solve your 0000007B Error code issue, because I too had this error.

1. If you already use AHCI for other drives, keep the SATA port you have your HDD/SSD at AHCI aswell.
2. Download the latest AHCI drivers for the board from ASUS
3. Download a piece of software called nLite
4. Extract the AHCI 32bit XP Drivers from the zip file
5. Copy and Paste all the files from the Iso you downloaded from HiVizMan into a Folder eg "Stipped OS"
6. Run nLite, navigate to the folder you just created. Click through til you get a list of things to do, click on "Drivers"
7. Point it to the 32Bit drivers you just extracted and click next
8. When completed, close off nLite and if you have the program for it, create another installer USB, or open nLite again and go through it tick the "Last Session" Box and this time at the bottom it says "Bootable ISO" click next, on the top left you will have a drop down box under "Mode" choose "Direct Burn" click Next, choose burn speed and when it is completed, you have an updated, slipstreamed edition of the Stripped OS that you will now be able to install and use with AHCI mode.

I went through this procedure, because I wasn't sure if the ISO was 32bit or 64bit XP and I kept getting that error code. And it worked for me in the end :)

Menthol
10-29-2012, 12:27 AM
Wait what OS we got from HiVizMan? HeHe. I wanted to enter this but I have been struggling with a new medication my doctor gave me, can't concentrate to well, maybe next time.

Henkenator68NL
10-29-2012, 01:18 AM
Here's how you solve your 0000007B Error code issue, because I too had this error.

1. ... :)

Myk if you really beat this anoying bugg!! I congratulate you, am going to try it Right now!! To be continued..:cool:

kkn
10-29-2012, 01:26 AM
Wait what OS we got from HiVizMan? HeHe. I wanted to enter this but I have been struggling with a new medication my doctor gave me, can't concentrate to well, maybe next time.
hope all is well whit you mentol after the surgery and all, and not to mention the recovery.

Zka17
10-29-2012, 01:43 AM
Yeah that is the one, and even with IDE mode we could not get it to work. You were successful with the M5E?

Sorry, my only LGA1155 board is the MVG... When you were mentioning an error, I remembered what I got - thought to share...

Henkenator68NL
10-29-2012, 02:38 AM
Mentol, we havent spoken before, but notheless GET WEL SOON M8!

Henkenator68NL
10-29-2012, 03:03 AM
Here's .... the end :)

Myk ahhhhh no I got the same beautifull BSOD again. The CD starts to install, than if you wan tot load 3th party raid driver you hit F6.
Afeter short while you get option to load external drivers. I hit S ...... The floppy drive cannot be found (or something like that).
Only option is esc and than Enter ------> BSOD

I am puzzeld, I think I followed the guide to the letter, only possible thing was which controller I had to Choose from a rather long list. So I went for the :
iaStor_DesktopWorkstationServer = "Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller"
and the:
iaAHCI_DesktopWorkstationServer = "Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA AHCI Controller"

But no joy !

Any ideas??? Thanks for the help in advance!

Zka17
10-29-2012, 03:07 AM
Henk, are you trying to install the XP for SuperPi? On a RAID setup? Can not just get a single HDD for that? I think that way would be easier...

Myk SilentShadow
10-29-2012, 03:11 AM
I forgot, you do not need to load any drivers by pressing F6, when you go to install, it *should* install them manually at the beginning, I saw them flash ever so briefly when it was loading everything at the start of the install.

Henkenator68NL
10-29-2012, 03:30 AM
Henk, are you trying to install the XP for SuperPi? On a RAID setup? Can not just get a single HDD for that? I think that way would be easier...

I wish it was that simple. On my Maximus V Extreme you cannot get WinXP installed, not on ide, not on AHCI and not on RAID...

@Myk Did you also get the options screen with the F6 key pressed?? I keep getting a pause. I can choose: S --> to search for 3th party sh*t or enter to continue. I can get beyond that point... Its driving me nuts!

Myk SilentShadow
10-29-2012, 03:56 AM
Ok, try running the install without hitting F6 at the start. if you pay close attention to everything that loads in before it begins the installation (even before you format a drive, or partition) you should see very briefly a driver with AHCIx86 passing by as it gets loaded in.

Dartmaul
10-29-2012, 09:17 AM
XP supports driver load only from floppy drive. (off course out Mobo's have no idea what is it)
If I wasn't that lazy, I'll install XP on some flash drive, guess it's an easiest way.

HiVizMan
10-29-2012, 09:47 AM
Zka please create an ISO with the 32Bit drivers as per your method and upload to any hosting site, I will then re-host for others on a free host. PM me the link when done.

If you are not sure how to do it, use Image burn to create the ISO file from a CD of your OS that you reworked.

Henkenator68NL
10-29-2012, 10:05 AM
That would be much appreciated...:eek:

Henkenator68NL
10-29-2012, 10:58 AM
I had another swing at it ... I am starting to loose the track ... I am not sure if this is an improvement or not..

So HiVizMan please be the bringer of happy news (whatever that maybe...)

Super Pi 1M Score: 8.795s @ 4200MHz

13114

Super Pi 32M Score: 7m56.472s @ 4200MHz
13115

The Bench Corner.... soon I hoop to be starting with chilling and modding the Rigg...
13116

Oke lets have it LOL

Henkenator68NL
10-29-2012, 11:32 AM
Hmm found a little 3 seconds somewhere. This is it ... At least for now !!

Super Pi 1M: 8.789s @4200MHz


13117

Super Pi 32M: 7m53.485s @4200MHZ

13118

13119

Myk SilentShadow
10-29-2012, 12:32 PM
HiVizMan & Henk, check your PM's :)

Henkenator68NL
10-29-2012, 01:12 PM
pfff even before XP run I think I found another slight improvement ... but how it calculates in ER ????

Last one before running XP. So I know I tried everything!

Super Pi 1M: 9.075S @ 4200MHz

13121


Super Pi 32M: 7m47.381s @ 4200 MHz

13122


Laterssssssss

8 Pack
10-29-2012, 01:55 PM
I have a stripped XP I use for 32mil 1155 and one for 2011 too. These are both installed with IDE mode enabled and are working on MVG, Formula and MVE as well as RIVE.

I can upload an image of this if you guys wish???

Also anyone tried with really cheapo Nvidia graphics card only and no drivers this can lead to improvements :)

I really like this thread seems to be getting people into benching and tweaking. But most of all people are learning so much about there systems and having fun doing it.

Myk SilentShadow
10-29-2012, 02:00 PM
Hehe i've just uploaded an ISO that should work in AHCI mode for RIVE/F, Max V Series and also the CHVF

Side Note: It also contains Intel RAID drivers too, for the Max and RIVE boards :)

8 Pack
10-29-2012, 02:29 PM
^^^^ Nice one pal.

Myk SilentShadow
10-29-2012, 02:30 PM
^^^^ Nice one pal.

Thanks, figured i'd make myself useful for a change, since im having such a hard time getting decent Pi runs on my CHVF lol

HiVizMan
10-29-2012, 05:34 PM
Repped Myk thanks for he ISO

flexnl
10-29-2012, 09:29 PM
superpi 1m : 13133

superpi 32m : 13145

myrig : 13135

http://hwbot.org/user/flexjenl/

Luumi
10-29-2012, 11:33 PM
I had to try again. Not big gains at all but still something. I have to ask you people that how far are you going with dram voltage for this bench?

1M:
13136

32M:
13137

13139

http://hwbot.org/user/luumi/

Henkenator68NL
10-30-2012, 07:05 AM
@FLEX

Your Frequencies don't match!
1M: 4508MHz (102,5x44)
32M: 4500MHz (100x45)

"quote HiVizMan: Both submissions must be run at the same CPU frequency"

flexnl
10-30-2012, 09:08 AM
tnx m8 your sharp ;)

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 11:38 AM
WOW I honestly do not know how I missed an entire page of replies.

Henk here are your results mate, none are improvements on your best so far.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?24118-ROG-Team-Super-Pi-Challenge-Oct-18-Nov-17-2012&p=176274&viewfull=1#post176274 56950.82

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?24118-ROG-Team-Super-Pi-Challenge-Oct-18-Nov-17-2012&p=176282&viewfull=1#post176282 56800.17

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?24118-ROG-Team-Super-Pi-Challenge-Oct-18-Nov-17-2012&p=176310&viewfull=1#post176310 56543.80


The last result I have taken your best Super Pi 1 mil result at that frequency, and the 32 MIl result of that submission for the ER. That is allowed by the way. All that matters is that the CPU frequency is the same. Find your best 1 mil efficiency, time taken / frequency and then move on to the 32 mil and focus on the 32 mil. Keep that 1 mil and simple keep submitting it with each improved 32 mil.

8 Pack gave some valuable advice for achieving a 1 mil result by the way. And you are spot on mate, this is what benching should be about, mates having fun and learning stuff without the angst or pressure that focusing too much on HWBOT brings with it. If it is not fun do not do it. :)

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 11:41 AM
@ Sinebrychof 58153.50

Huge improvement my friend nice going.

Leader board updated.

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 11:41 AM
@ Zka17 hmm you have been very quite my friend. I think you are preparing some really outstanding times, or you are working too hard one of the two. :)

Arne Saknussemm
10-30-2012, 12:10 PM
WOW I honestly do not know how I missed an entire page of replies.

Too busy for the common man now you've been made a prince? LOL :D

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 12:13 PM
Too busy for the common man now you've been made a prince? LOL :D

Yeah thank heaven I was not made a Princess I say, would look real silly in a frock. Me thinks some admins have way to much time on their hands :D :D

Myk SilentShadow
10-30-2012, 12:17 PM
WOW I honestly do not know how I missed an entire page of replies.



You've been so busy, you missed this post by me :p


Ok, so i've been messing with the Bus speed as you suggested and it's made my times even worse. Currently my CPU is @ 4.4GHz, Bus is @ 266, Multiplier @ 16, RAM @ 1772MHz timings of 9-9-9-24-33. if I adjust the 2nd Tier of the timings, loosen them by one times are crap, if I tighten them by 1, my System refuses to boot and gives me an OC has failed! message....even using the stripped down OS has made no real difference...might be because i'm using an extra SSD to hold the XP install lol

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 12:29 PM
Yes one more missed reply.

My bad Myk - ok what I will do is pull out some AMD kit and play with that. One thing to bare in mind, Bulldozer will not be any way close to the old 1090T processors in single thread.

Stick at one CPU frequency 4.2 or 4.4 is good I suspect. Leave all your ram timings on Auto.
Now run the benchmark 32mil at each of the attainable memory frequencies. Those that you can set using the drop down menu in BIOS. make not of which one gave improvements. I tended to run each benchmark three times. And used the best time as my mark for that frequency. Once you have found which timing is best suited to your system then only do you start to tweak the other stuff. OS and the like, once you have all that done, re do the 32 mil and see if the times change. They should improve by about 15 seconds if all is done correctly. Not talking about WAZZA yet.

Now tighten up one timing at a time but do not start with the first four. Read what Raja wrote and see if it is applicable to AMD ram management I suspect it is. Do the others for now. The gains will be small. But gains there will be. Once you have reached the point where no more gains are possible with the sub timings, see if any movement of the first 4 will help improve things. Cas is the most obvious and the one that people tend to focus on, but it is not always the way to go. Again each ram kit will have unique behaviours so you need to work out for your ram what is the best.

And lets be honest, ram can only do so much before it will fail. We do not want to push silly voltage in the hope that volts will make it work. Flexnl mentioned a question about voltage and I do not want to hear from anyone that they killed ram by pushing too much voltage. This is fun, nothing more. :)

Arne Saknussemm
10-30-2012, 12:30 PM
Careful what you wish for...

13153

Too much time on my hands here too!;)

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 12:31 PM
Ah but that is not a silly frock. :p

Myk SilentShadow
10-30-2012, 12:56 PM
Yes one more missed reply.

My bad Myk - ok what I will do is pull out some AMD kit and play with that. One thing to bare in mind, Bulldozer will not be any way close to the old 1090T processors in single thread.

Stick at one CPU frequency 4.2 or 4.4 is good I suspect. Leave all your ram timings on Auto.
Now run the benchmark 32mil at each of the attainable memory frequencies. Those that you can set using the drop down menu in BIOS. make not of which one gave improvements. I tended to run each benchmark three times. And used the best time as my mark for that frequency. Once you have found which timing is best suited to your system then only do you start to tweak the other stuff. OS and the like, once you have all that done, re do the 32 mil and see if the times change. They should improve by about 15 seconds if all is done correctly. Not talking about WAZZA yet.

Now tighten up one timing at a time but do not start with the first four. Read what Raja wrote and see if it is applicable to AMD ram management I suspect it is. Do the others for now. The gains will be small. But gains there will be. Once you have reached the point where no more gains are possible with the sub timings, see if any movement of the first 4 will help improve things. Cas is the most obvious and the one that people tend to focus on, but it is not always the way to go. Again each ram kit will have unique behaviours so you need to work out for your ram what is the best.

And lets be honest, ram can only do so much before it will fail. We do not want to push silly voltage in the hope that volts will make it work. Flexnl mentioned a question about voltage and I do not want to hear from anyone that they killed ram by pushing too much voltage. This is fun, nothing more. :)

Ok mate cheers for the tips, i'll give it a go in the morning after i've run my time on my study :)

@Arne LOL loved the pic mate!!

Zka17
10-30-2012, 01:04 PM
@ Zka17 hmm you have been very quite my friend. I think you are preparing some really outstanding times, or you are working too hard one of the two. :)

He-he, check my TestBench thread... I'm going through major changes...

Also got really busy at work too... - but don't worry, I'm still in! :cool:

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 01:12 PM
flexnl - 56192.4 Improving my friend.


Just a heads up to all. Today I had the first blatant cheat submission made. Guys the formula I have worked out picks up and highlights any anomaly, I am sure that it would be possible to fool the algorithm given time but for now it is still quite secure. My apologies to flexnl for sending him a rather odd email in error. I was a bit miffed at the time and forgot I had an open tab where I was responding to your pm.

Myk SilentShadow
10-30-2012, 01:16 PM
Wow, naughty naughty little cheater!!!

Hey since you say the FX sucks at single thread work....would it be a bad thing if I shut down all the extra cores while benching 32M Pi?...if I can in fact do so

flexnl
10-30-2012, 01:18 PM
flexnl - 56192.4 Improving my friend.


Just a heads up to all. Today I had the first blatant cheat submission made. Guys the formula I have worked out picks up and highlights any anomaly, I am sure that it would be possible to fool the algorithm given time but for now it is still quite secure. My apologies to flexnl for sending him a rather odd email in error. I was a bit miffed at the time and forgot I had an open tab where I was responding to your pm.

forgivven (K)

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 01:21 PM
You can do that via OS by the way Myk. And is sort of a tweak. What you do is find out which of your cores is the quickest for the benchmark. And then simply set affinity to that core. And set all other processes to the remaining cores. And no it will not make any difference to switch off cores in the BIOS and yes you can do so.

Tks flexnl :)

Myk SilentShadow
10-30-2012, 01:25 PM
Sweet, might shut them down through BIOS...make it easier, kill everything that is not needed and then bench 32M Pi lol.

I may even have to parition my SSD and reinstall XP onto that, the SSD I had used over the weekend is now living in my Server lol

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 01:30 PM
Do you have an old mechanical hard drive laying around the place. That would be ideal for benching with rather than mess with your 24/7 system?

Myk SilentShadow
10-30-2012, 01:33 PM
Do you have an old mechanical hard drive laying around the place. That would be ideal for benching with rather than mess with your 24/7 system?

Not Sata, no unfortunately lol and a bit strapped for cash for a few more weeks. Car Registration and Service come first -.- lol

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 01:36 PM
If you have IDE that would be fine, however not sure if the CHV has IDE connection.

Myk SilentShadow
10-30-2012, 01:37 PM
If you have IDE that would be fine, however not sure if the CHV has IDE connection.

Unfortunately it doesn't

Chino
10-30-2012, 02:24 PM
Chino 56055.91


WOW I honestly do not know how I missed an entire page of replies.

You forgot to update mines. :p

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 02:36 PM
You forgot to update mines. :p

Cheers - actually had updated it but forgot to save the edit. :)


I have made the process so much easier for me, and no longer will include a link to the submission. That was making the whole process way to time consuming and messy.

Well done on second place Chino :o

Arne Saknussemm
10-30-2012, 03:43 PM
Just out of interest,(no axe to grind here just genuinely want to know) is there a platform difference on this? X79 slower than dual channel setups? Or is it just that the decent benchers have dual channel setups...LOL. What is the platform difference with AMD? I was thinking of calculating Pi by hand and entering my time there....;-)

Raja@ASUS
10-30-2012, 05:07 PM
X79 = slower than IB.

Arne Saknussemm
10-30-2012, 07:03 PM
Thanks for the info Raja! Always nice to have something other than my dubious benching skills to blame hehe....I will however persevere....and I guess look forward to IB-E!

Alex-Ro
10-30-2012, 07:56 PM
Just chimed in guys,will try to bench something tomorrow.Don't know about ivy-e,but i await haswell for even better superpi :)

Arne Saknussemm
10-30-2012, 09:01 PM
Welcome Alex!:)

OK so in the spirit of Henkenator's coffee and cake idea...I thought I'd share what has worked for me so far in this.

I originally thought the efficiency formula would be something complex which included frequency per volt measured against time etc.etc. so went of on a tangent...came back thinking maybe RAM OCing was the key and didn't get far with that. In fact, a couple of weeks ago my RAM was a "black box" it just sat there and did it's job. Now I feel I could write a small paper on tertiary timings:D eventually my better efficiency scores have come from tightening RAM timings and lowering CPU clocks.

I have a 1600 Mhz kit and I suspect faster RAM would be better for this challenge.
I have wound in the timings of this kit a lot! Its XMP profile is 8-8-8-25-2T...5-128-12-6-24-6-8...0-2-3-3-3-3-1-3-0
I have it now at 7-8-7-20-1T....4-64-9-4-16-4-6...0-2-2-2-2-2-1-1-2-0
I have had it at Cas 6 but 6-8-8 netted me a couple of seconds which if I'm not mistaken is not going to better the score much....

I also came across Wazza ( I now dream about copying Wazza fron D to C and back again) and tips saying XP is the OS for this so tried both and both work too! Some OS tweaks that I presume everybody knows they are so widely posted on the net. I will try a stripped OS.

The timings and RAM OC I have got come from maximum 1.65V vdimm and vccsa 1.25 and vtt 1.25 I'm not willing to go higher...:eek:

PS HiVizMan I thought I broke 57000 or was I the cheater?:D

flexnl
10-30-2012, 09:40 PM
superpi 1m 13175
superpi 32m 13176
http://hwbot.org/user/flexjenl/

myrig

HiVizMan
10-30-2012, 10:01 PM
Nope sadly not - 56365.14

Menthol
10-31-2012, 01:29 AM
Arne,
Thanks very much for sharing, are all those timings at 1600mhz? Wazza is Wazza?

Welcome Alex!:)

OK so in the spirit of Henkenator's coffee and cake idea...I thought I'd share what has worked for me so far in this.

I originally thought the efficiency formula would be something complex which included frequency per volt measured against time etc.etc. so went of on a tangent...came back thinking maybe RAM OCing was the key and didn't get far with that. In fact, a couple of weeks ago my RAM was a "black box" it just sat there and did it's job. Now I feel I could write a small paper on tertiary timings:D eventually my better efficiency scores have come from tightening RAM timings and lowering CPU clocks.

I have a 1600 Mhz kit and I suspect faster RAM would be better for this challenge.
I have wound in the timings of this kit a lot! Its XMP profile is 8-8-8-25-2T...5-128-12-6-24-6-8...0-2-3-3-3-3-1-3-0
I have it now at 7-8-7-20-1T....4-64-9-4-16-4-6...0-2-2-2-2-2-1-1-2-0
I have had it at Cas 6 but 6-8-8 netted me a couple of seconds which if I'm not mistaken is not going to better the score much....

I also came across Wazza ( I now dream about copying Wazza fron D to C and back again) and tips saying XP is the OS for this so tried both and both work too! Some OS tweaks that I presume everybody knows they are so widely posted on the net. I will try a stripped OS.

The timings and RAM OC I have got come from maximum 1.65V vdimm and vccsa 1.25 and vtt 1.25 I'm not willing to go higher...:eek:

PS HiVizMan I thought I broke 57000 or was I the cheater?:D

Squallalaha
10-31-2012, 02:16 AM
Does this Website Photo uploader NOT work with FFox or what? Fighting to get photos uploaded, Is there a size limit?

lets see if I am doing this right:

http://hwbot.org/user/MasterPMI/

SuperPi 1M:
13188

SuperPi 32M:
13189

System
13185

Henkenator68NL
10-31-2012, 02:39 AM
Hey Guys,

Just like Arne I dived into the memory timings .... well at the moment I am completely puzzeled...

I agree that there must be a big difference in the brand and type of the RAM.

I have 2 x 4 Gb G.Skill RipjawX 17000, CL9

I have tried lots of combinations but I can't get the CL below 9

This must have an impact on the possibilities of this RAM

On the other hand if I OC the RAM to 2400MHz with CL10,12,12,25,1T ... I do get lower timings

So my conclusion at the moment ... I thought I was on to something but now I am not sure anymore..

Pfff ahh well thats all in the spirit of this Challenge ...

Henk

Henkenator68NL
10-31-2012, 02:45 AM
This is for the moment the Maximum I squeezed out of this CPU Freq.
CPU: 4200MHz
MEM: 2400MHz

Super Pi 1M: 8.812s
13190
Super Pi 32M: 7m46.762s

13191
13192

The search continues ...

Myk SilentShadow
10-31-2012, 03:22 AM
This is depressing, I can't even get 1Mil times below 20s any more lol!!! I could only disable 2 of the 4 cores on my 4170 and that didn't help one bit oh well, maybe i'll think of something....maybe :p

Henkenator68NL
10-31-2012, 09:16 AM
Oke Guys,

In the hunt for effiency, I bumped up the CPU to 4400 MHz set the Memory at 1866 with clocks around 9, 10, 9, 24, 1T.

Here are my findings for now.

Super Pi 1M score: 8.407s

13198

Super Pi 32M score: 7m38.328s
13199
Bench-r
13197

So now I would like to see the ER for this run.

Henk

Arne Saknussemm
10-31-2012, 09:16 AM
Arne,Thanks very much for sharing, are all those timings at 1600mhz? Wazza is Wazza?

Hi Menthol! Yes, all those are at or around 1600 (like up to 1680 with multi 105 for example) The wazza thing is some "memory balancing" trick.If you use XP to run super pi it complements some OS tricks....


http://youtu.be/7OZ7taeywWU

Henkenator68NL
10-31-2012, 09:40 AM
Arne,

Did you try the wazza tweak?? I have but I am no sure where to look for the gain...

How about you?

Arne Saknussemm
10-31-2012, 09:44 AM
Did I try it? I am now a Wazza black belt second dan!!!;) copy D: to C:....copy C:to D:.......I think it helps shave time off the run even at 1mil or at least your first run will be quickest but this last I'm not 100% sure....

I've spent so much time doing it I'll swear it has an effect even if it doesn't! LOL

flexnl
10-31-2012, 09:47 AM
forgivven (K)

[QUOTE=HiVizMan;176877]flexnl - 56192.4 Improving my friend.


you forgat to update mine to :)

flexnl
10-31-2012, 09:52 AM
oh never mind...wouldnt make a difference anyway :)

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 09:55 AM
Oke Guys,

In the hunt for effiency, I bumped up the CPU to 4400 MHz set the Memory at 1866 with clocks around 9, 10, 9, 24, 1T.

Here are my findings for now.

Super Pi 1M score: 8.407s

13198

Super Pi 32M score: 7m38.328s
13199
Bench-r
13197

So now I would like to see the ER for this run.

Henk

57157.23 I take it that is your base line settings, and if you were to disable speedstep you would find yourER quite hugely improved. What happened here is that the benchmark (1 Mil) was over so quickly that the processor did not have time to ramp up fully. The same would have happened, for the first three or four loops of your 32 Mil bench too.

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 09:58 AM
This is for the moment the Maximum I squeezed out of this CPU Freq.
CPU: 4200MHz
MEM: 2400MHz

Super Pi 1M: 8.812s
13190
Super Pi 32M: 7m46.762s

13191
13192

The search continues ...

56614.40 Again while this run is more efficient than the one you pm'd me about; you lost so much time due to speed step. :)

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 09:58 AM
flexnl did I miss another?

8 Pack
10-31-2012, 10:00 AM
Guys when using Wazza for 32mil are you doing so with task manager open amd watching the available memory in performance ta

When this peaks (Stops rising for a second or two) quickly kill explorer, kill task manager and hit enter to start the 32mil calculation. This way you get the full performance increase of the Wazza tweak.

Wazza does not help 1 mil times in my experience and logically it cant as 1mil resides purely in processor cash so RAM comes into it very very little.

Raja@ASUS
10-31-2012, 10:16 AM
Welcome Alex!:)

OK so in the spirit of Henkenator's coffee and cake idea...I thought I'd share what has worked for me so far in this.

I originally thought the efficiency formula would be something complex which included frequency per volt measured against time etc.etc. so went of on a tangent...came back thinking maybe RAM OCing was the key and didn't get far with that. In fact, a couple of weeks ago my RAM was a "black box" it just sat there and did it's job. Now I feel I could write a small paper on tertiary timings:D eventually my better efficiency scores have come from tightening RAM timings and lowering CPU clocks.

I have a 1600 Mhz kit and I suspect faster RAM would be better for this challenge.
I have wound in the timings of this kit a lot! Its XMP profile is 8-8-8-25-2T...5-128-12-6-24-6-8...0-2-3-3-3-3-1-3-0
I have it now at 7-8-7-20-1T....4-64-9-4-16-4-6...0-2-2-2-2-2-1-1-2-0
I have had it at Cas 6 but 6-8-8 netted me a couple of seconds which if I'm not mistaken is not going to better the score much....

I also came across Wazza ( I now dream about copying Wazza fron D to C and back again) and tips saying XP is the OS for this so tried both and both work too! Some OS tweaks that I presume everybody knows they are so widely posted on the net. I will try a stripped OS.

The timings and RAM OC I have got come from maximum 1.65V vdimm and vccsa 1.25 and vtt 1.25 I'm not willing to go higher...:eek:

PS HiVizMan I thought I broke 57000 or was I the cheater?:D


Look for 2.5~4 seconds shaved off your time on a good Waza. Depends on how stripped the OS is, too. Stripping can become a pain very quickly with Waza. The page file policies are setup with OS defaults in mind.

Either way, you want to be competitive you must learn to use Waza.

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 10:17 AM
Does this Website Photo uploader NOT work with FFox or what? Fighting to get photos uploaded, Is there a size limit?

lets see if I am doing this right:

http://hwbot.org/user/MasterPMI/

SuperPi 1M:
13188

SuperPi 32M:
13189

System
13185



Here you go and welcome mate. 56761.71

Joined the charts in the top 5, well done. :o

Henkenator68NL
10-31-2012, 11:17 AM
56614.40 Again while this run is more efficient than the one you pm'd me about; you lost so much time due to speed step. :)

Hmmm I thought it was wierd to see the cpu speed jumping up and down..

So I went into BIOS again to try disable speedstep ->intel enhanced speedstep = disabled ???

So I set this to disabled. Save BIOS reboot, into OS ... But still CPU speed jumps from 1600 to 4400

I think I am missing the correct place to set this speedstep to disabled.

So guys, how do I get this straight??? Probably a noob mistake on my side but thats all in the game LOL

Arne Saknussemm
10-31-2012, 11:27 AM
Guys when using Wazza for 32mil are you doing so with task manager open amd watching the available memory in performance ta

does not help 1 mil times and logically it cant as 1mil resides purely in processor cache

Yep, doing that...and yeah the last makes sense......so purely a placebo effect!!:D

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 11:28 AM
LOL Henk if I had a 1 for every n00b mistake I make I would be rich. But that is how we learn yeah.

What I do is this.

F5 and start again.
Select a multiplier that you want to work with. Just one, the hopping around makes it very difficult for you to track improvement.
Set up your Speedstep in the CPU options.
Set your SATA mode if that is something you need to do.
Disable all the devices that you do not need for benching, and that is pretty much all of them.
Leave your ram at XMP or defaults for now.
Save your settings to a profile. Call it SP32
F10 and enter and boot into OS. Check out your CPUz to see if the speed step thing is sorted.

Now you have a base to work from. Each change that you make in the BIOS write down, or make a note of it if it worked. If the change worked, save it as an OC profile. But never change your BASE OC profile. That is your fail safe when/if things go horribly wrong.

I am very methodical in how I bench. So for example in a couple of streamed contests that I took part in, the other guys were way ahead of me for first 3 hours 45 mins of the contest. They shoot for max straight away. Me I do not. I first put a score up on the board just to have a score. Then I start with the different benchmarks, and work methodically through them. I give a certain amount of time to each level of overclock, and build all my scores up before moving to the next overclock setting. Come the last 15 minutes I shot up the leader-board, some of the guys were not able to get all the benchmark submissions done as their hardware had died. Others were having condensation issues, still others had run out of time due to focusing on one benchmark for too long.

So the short version is work to a plan, and plan how to work.

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 11:29 AM
Yep, doing that...and yeah the last makes sense......so purely a placebo effect!!:D

No need to do wazza for 1 mil. :)

Zka17
10-31-2012, 11:33 AM
Hmmm I thought it was wierd to see the cpu speed jumping up and down..

So I went into BIOS again to try disable speedstep ->intel enhanced speedstep = disabled ???

So I set this to disabled. Save BIOS reboot, into OS ... But still CPU speed jumps from 1600 to 4400

I think I am missing the correct place to set this speedstep to disabled.

So guys, how do I get this straight??? Probably a noob mistake on my side but thats all in the game LOL

Henk, in addition to disable Speedstep in BIOS, I also set the Power Plan in Windows 7 to High Performance... - not sure on which OS you're, I thought to mention this...

Arne Saknussemm
10-31-2012, 11:34 AM
No need to do wazza for 1 mil. :)

Now you tell me!! LOL though now 8 Pack has said it, it seems obvious *facepalm*:D

Henkenator68NL
10-31-2012, 11:49 AM
Oke guys!

Thanks for the advice!

I'll start from scratch LOL.

I'll keep you posted

flexnl
10-31-2012, 11:49 AM
flexnl did I miss another?

yes m8 post #300

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 11:52 AM
Leader board updated.

Myk SilentShadow
10-31-2012, 11:52 AM
Ok guys, HiVizMan convinced me to remove the 1090T I had installed in my new Server and put it into my main Rig, so reset of scores please!! and this is @ total stock 3.2GHz 1600MHz RAM

1Mil: 19.653s
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/SuperPI%20Benching/Pi1Mil1090Run1.jpg

32Mil: 19m25.197s
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/SuperPI%20Benching/Pi32Mil1090Run1.jpg

flexnl
10-31-2012, 11:57 AM
cpu @4200 ddr3@2000

superpi 13202

superpi 32m 13203
http://hwbot.org/user/flexjenl/
myrig

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 12:04 PM
Myk do you want to check and see if turbo boost was on please. It sort of looks like it. I have pm'd you your ER.

Arne Saknussemm
10-31-2012, 12:05 PM
Leader board updated.


PS HiVizMan I thought I broke 57000 or was I the cheater?:D

Hey! I want to join the 56000 gang! :o

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 12:13 PM
Hey! I want to join the 56000 gang! :o

Note to self, press save when doing an edit. :o

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 12:15 PM
cpu @4200 ddr3@2000

superpi 13202

superpi 32m 13203
http://hwbot.org/user/flexjenl/
myrig

Here you go mate 68866.01

Myk SilentShadow
10-31-2012, 12:26 PM
Myk do you want to check and see if turbo boost was on please. It sort of looks like it. I have pm'd you your ER.

you mean AMD turbo core tech? it's on Auto...it was on Auto even with my 4170 mate, that is one thing I never messed with yet...even with a fresh reset of the CMOS, it's always set to Auto. oh and Core Unlocker is on too lol

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 12:30 PM
OK that makes sense. What is happening is that the frequency of your bench is not 3200. It is ramping up to the max turbo speed during the single thread application. Could you please a) either set your multiplier higher than the max turbo boost or disable it and set to all cores.

Myk SilentShadow
10-31-2012, 12:31 PM
o.O well that is strange, I had CPU-Z running at the same time I ran the 32Mil pass and it never jumped beyond what I screenshot lol.

flexnl
10-31-2012, 12:38 PM
pff the harder i trie the ****tieer my scores are mn need 2 figure this out :P

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 12:40 PM
flexnl - part of the problem for you is that you are all over the show with your CPU frequency. So you are not really able to track changes or improvements. I posted a page ago how I would do my testing for this benchmark in reply to Myk. Maybe that would help you?

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 12:42 PM
o.O well that is strange, I had CPU-Z running at the same time I ran the 32Mil pass and it never jumped beyond what I screenshot lol.

Lets put your ER in perspective it is by a order of 10x more efficient than the best 1090T super PI 32 mil run ever done.

flexnl
10-31-2012, 12:59 PM
flexnl - part of the problem for you is that you are all over the show with your CPU frequency. So you are not really able to track changes or improvements. I posted a page ago how I would do my testing for this benchmark in reply to Myk. Maybe that would help you?
YES VERY helpfull tnxx m8!

Myk SilentShadow
10-31-2012, 01:12 PM
Lets put your ER in perspective it is by a order of 10x more efficient than the best 1090T super PI 32 mil run ever done.

Maybe my RAM is just that good? LOL

Ok re-ran, still @ Stock (sorry mate, I only just got your PM, i'll do 4.2 in the early afternoon after studies :)) so still 3.2Ghz 1600 MHz RAM 9-9-9-24 - turbo core - disabled

1Mil: crappy time of 21.731s
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/SuperPI%20Benching/Pi1Mil1090Run2.jpg

32Mil: even crappier time of 21m16.612s
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/SuperPI%20Benching/Pi32Mil1090Run2.jpg

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 01:26 PM
Maybe my RAM is just that good? LOL

Ok re-ran, still @ Stock (sorry mate, I only just got your PM, i'll do 4.2 in the early afternoon after studies :)) so still 3.2Ghz 1600 MHz RAM 9-9-9-24 - turbo core - disabled

1Mil: crappy time of 21.731s

32Mil: even crappier time of 21m16.612s


Now we are talking 110390.78

Leader board updated, straight into number 1. :eek:

Myk SilentShadow
10-31-2012, 01:27 PM
WOOOHOOOO!!!!!! :D now I can crawl into bed a very happy boy :p :cool:

Henkenator68NL
10-31-2012, 03:36 PM
WOOOHOOOO!!!!!! :D now I can crawl into bed a very happy boy :p :cool:

Congrats Myk!!

Henkenator68NL
10-31-2012, 03:45 PM
Tralalala here is Henk again...

I followed the advice and I think I begin to see the difference in time due to disabled speedstep (it now stays at the freq. I set it at!)

However in the 1M test I cant find the payoff yet. The 32M test dropped 6 seconds compared to test at same speed..

Now this must be an improvement off my previous best ... (ahum I hope)

CPU@4400MHz Mem 1866-2133

Super Pi 1M test: 8.406s

13213
Super Pi 32M test: 7m32.297s !!
13214
13215


So whats the ER ?????

Zka17
10-31-2012, 04:09 PM
Congrats, Myk!

HiVizMan
10-31-2012, 04:33 PM
Henk your best ER is still the 4123 MHz one @ 56122.85

ER 56887.47

Go have a look at that submission and look at the timings and frequency of your ram, that might be a clue as to where you need to be.

Chino
11-01-2012, 03:46 AM
Give me back my throne, please. :p

Hardware
CPU - Intel i7 3770K @ 3500 MHz
Mobo - Asus Maximus V Extreme
Cooling - Antec KUHLER H2O 920
Memory - Corsair Dominator Platinum @ 2000 MHz

SuperPi score: 10sec 404ms
13221


SuperPi 32m score: 9min 13sec 821ms
13222

HiVizMan
11-01-2012, 11:17 AM
Give me back my throne, please. :p

Hardware
CPU - Intel i7 3770K @ 3500 MHz
Mobo - Asus Maximus V Extreme
Cooling - Antec KUHLER H2O 920
Memory - Corsair Dominator Platinum @ 2000 MHz

SuperPi score: 10sec 404ms


SuperPi 32m score: 9min 13sec 821ms

Oh yeah now we are talking, let the games begin I say.

55797.74



Ladies and Gentlemen, oh and Chris, we have a new leader. I present to you the best bencher from Mexico - Chino

Henkenator68NL
11-01-2012, 11:50 AM
Ola Chino!

felicitaciones!

saludar

Greetings Henk:cool:

Arne Saknussemm
11-01-2012, 12:29 PM
Nice one Chino enhorabuena!! :D


Dug out some old kit and decided to start a new craze.......Sofa-benching LOL:D


http://hwbot.org/user/arne_saknussemm/

i7980 @ 3000MHz
P6X58D Premium
Cooling Air
RAM Corsair Dominator 1600MHz

1M
13229
32M
13237
13231

Zka17
11-01-2012, 12:44 PM
Congrats, Chino, nicely done!

Henkenator68NL
11-01-2012, 01:17 PM
Arne!!

I love the case mod you did LOL

or should I call it a SofaMOD?

Zka17
11-01-2012, 01:33 PM
Henk, that is a cool benching setup! I'm familiar with those arrangements... but every time I'm going off/out my ROG corner my wife kills my expanding ambitions... :)

HiVizMan
11-01-2012, 01:36 PM
LOL Arne X58 is way less efficient than either X79 or Z77

Here you are 61558.02

Arne Saknussemm
11-01-2012, 01:38 PM
Missus is away for two days.....this will be gone by the time she gets back ;)

Cheers HiVizMan.....I thought that would be the way of it....had to try though....

Chino
11-01-2012, 01:45 PM
I present to you the best bencher from Mexico - Chino

Can't wear that title yet lol. Unfortunately, the number one guy from the Mexico Enthusiast league has 3.3pts over me @ Hwbot. xD

But thanks to everyone for their kind words. :D Having a lot of fun from this challenge!

HiVizMan
11-01-2012, 01:49 PM
Ah Chino do not confuse the best with having the most points on HWBOT. You are the best buddy.


What is your weakest bench compared to your fellow countryman with the same hardware? PM me and I will see if there are some tweaks you might not have used yet.

kkn
11-01-2012, 04:57 PM
lol arne. nice setup :P
as confy as a sofa, and a smart one.
smartsofa :P
lol Z, dont you have a basement?? a mancave of some kind :P
grats chino.

Chino
11-01-2012, 06:44 PM
Ah Chino do not confuse the best with having the most points on HWBOT. You are the best buddy.

You've been an awesome mentor. ;)

Zka17
11-01-2012, 07:01 PM
lol Z, dont you have a basement?? a mancave of some kind :P

No basements in this part of the world... have you seen what happened with the subways in New York? - that's why... But some day we may move in a bigger place... then I will keep in mind some extra space for my ROG corner... :)

Chino
11-01-2012, 07:18 PM
Be a man! Overclock in your backyard! :p

Zka17
11-01-2012, 07:24 PM
Be a man! Overclock in your backyard! :p

No backyard either... :) Beside there would be too hot for OC'ing... But no worries, until I will have a bigger place, I have my ROG Cart (post #237): http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?20047-The-Chronicle-of-My-TestBench/page24 :cool:

Arne Saknussemm
11-01-2012, 07:25 PM
Be a man! Overclock in your backyard! :p

In your Y-fronts and a woolly hat like X pack!!

kkn
11-01-2012, 07:32 PM
No backyard either... :) Beside there would be too hot for OC'ing... But no worries, until I will have a bigger place, I have my ROG Cart (post #237): http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?20047-The-Chronicle-of-My-TestBench/page24 :cool:
connect the waterhose on the loop, cold water all the time ;)

Zka17
11-01-2012, 07:35 PM
He-he... there are things I could do, yes... - but let's get back to our SuperPi challenge here... kkn, it's your turn... :)

Luumi
11-01-2012, 07:47 PM
After doing some more testing in a horrible noice due to my gentle typhoon blowing some area around the socket and the modules, I got some results atleast. Although I expected a bit better results.

1M
13241

32M
13242

13244

http://hwbot.org/user/luumi/

Dartmaul
11-01-2012, 11:28 PM
HiVizMan could you make scores on ladder clickable again?
This thread grows and it makes more complicated to find certain submission(

*Gonna make one more try this weekend so I need to steal some settings from Arne's screenshots*:o

HiVizMan
11-01-2012, 11:33 PM
luumi here you go mate. 58222.98

And your tras timing of 18 is too tight and that is holding you back. Give 30 a try and you will see improvement.

HiVizMan
11-01-2012, 11:34 PM
HiVizMan could you make scores on ladder clickable again?
This thread grows and it makes more complicated to find certain submission(

*Gonna make one more try this weekend so I need to steal some settings from Arne's screenshots*:o

What I will try mate the thing is it is a nightmare to edit with the url's included how I had it before. But I will work something out maybe just have a separate link and not a hyper link like before.

Dartmaul
11-01-2012, 11:57 PM
You could make a tip with page of submission post)
It's much easier but almost also useful as link.

flexnl
11-02-2012, 07:03 AM
cpu @ 4200
ram @ 2200

superpi 1m 13268
superpi 32m 13269
http://hwbot.org/user/flexjenl

Henkenator68NL
11-02-2012, 09:50 AM
Well Guys....

I think I am lost in the woods! (I hear the Wolves Howle).


I thought I try to tighten my memory timings and see better results... not conclusive



So Guys whats do you think is step one?

My initial route was -> find highest stable ram -> tighten the clocks -> with best settings start benching at different CPU frquencies.

But I seem to run around in a "mind" loop because I cannot seem to get better results.

What the common idea?? How do you all go about this Challenge ??

Arne Saknussemm
11-02-2012, 10:34 AM
LOL Henkenator...one of those howls is not a wolf.... it's me...in the same wood...I'm afraid I've had too much fun trying all sorts of combinations that I kind of abandoned the scientific method a bit. For me so far lowering clocks and lowering timings have both improved my score but there are definite limits to what you can get out of your kit. I would love to try some faster RAM right now..hehehe.. but the other things are OS tweaks etc. having less programs and services running in the background etc.....

Just trying to beat myself at the moment the guys on dual channel/know-what-they-are-doing are a bit too far ahead...:o

HiVizMan
11-02-2012, 11:36 AM
flexnl - 55977.70

We now have three under the 56000 barrier. Well done guys the improvements have been coming. And now that some of you are starting to work more systematically you will improve far quicker.

Leader board is being redesigned and will be updated once I have worked out how I can get all the information up with the least amount of work for me each time.

Henkenator68NL
11-02-2012, 12:48 PM
Well here is another try from my side

CPU: 3500MHz
RAM: 2400MHz

Super Pi 1M: 10.515S

13281

Super Pi 32M: 9m15.954s

13280
13279

Arne Saknussemm
11-02-2012, 02:20 PM
http://hwbot.org/user/arne_saknussemm/

i73930K @ 3360MHz
RIVE
Cooling: water
RAM GSkill 1600MHz @1680

Pi1M
13282
Pi32M
13283
13284

Any improvement? or slightly worse?

Henkenator68NL
11-02-2012, 02:38 PM
Oke I just shaved of a tiny bit off time :cool:


Super Pi 1M: 10.421s

13285

Super Pi 32M: 9m11.882s

13286

13287

Finally below 56000 ER ??? hmm I hope

HiVizMan
11-02-2012, 03:04 PM
http://hwbot.org/user/arne_saknussemm/

i73930K @ 3360MHz
RIVE
Cooling: water
RAM GSkill 1600MHz @1680


Any improvement? or slightly worse?


57246.00




Oke I just shaved of a tiny bit off time :cool:


Super Pi 1M: 10.421s



Super Pi 32M: 9m11.882s


Finally below 56000 ER ??? hmm I hope

Oh yes indeed you are. 55789.37

flexnl
11-02-2012, 03:10 PM
1m 13294
32m 13299
http://hwbot.org/user/flexje/
13300:cool:

HiVizMan
11-02-2012, 03:11 PM
We have a new leader ....

The pride of The Nederlands henkenator68NL


Well done mate you have worked hard for this, do not stop yet you have space to go still. :cool:

Zka17
11-02-2012, 03:17 PM
Good job, Henk! But, as HiVizMan said: do not relax yet... - I'm right behind you! :cool:

HiVizMan, what ER you were mentioning before, you was hoping to get below?

Henkenator68NL
11-02-2012, 03:18 PM
Woooha! Thanks Mate!

flexnl
11-02-2012, 03:24 PM
133061330713302
13303
http://hwbot.org/user/flexje/
13305

HiVizMan
11-02-2012, 03:34 PM
55946.86 improved. :)

flexnl
11-02-2012, 04:54 PM
tnxx ... gonna upgrade my ram in a few days now have muchkin cl9 2133 8gigs....gonna be 16 gigs of 2666 tridents...will that make a difference in this challange?

Zka17
11-02-2012, 05:20 PM
Sincerely, flexnl, I'm not 100% positive about those 2666MHz memories... 16GB will put more stress on the IMC, beside being able to run at so high frequency it could mean bad timings at lower speeds... (as the case with my 2600MHz TridentX)... I'm not saying to not try your new kit, just warning you that may not be better in this challenge...

If I would be you, I would continue pushing the present memories, you have... try to get the CL lower, even if you have to decrease the frequency... A CL8 at 2000MHz is better than CL9 at 2133MHz... :)

8 Pack
11-02-2012, 07:42 PM
Is this challenge not limited to dimms at 2400mhz??? So tune the Tridents at 2400 then. They will do well at 2400 I think. 9-11-10-25 1T or lower ;)

flexnl
11-02-2012, 07:56 PM
Sincerely, flexnl, I'm not 100% positive about those 2666MHz memories... 16GB will put more stress on the IMC, beside being able to run at so high frequency it could mean bad timings at lower speeds... (as the case with my 2600MHz TridentX)... I'm not saying to not try your new kit, just warning you that may not be better in this challenge...

If I would be you, I would continue pushing the present memories, you have... try to get the CL lower, even if you have to decrease the frequency... A CL8 at 2000MHz is better than CL9 at 2133MHz... :)

tnks ..good advice..
can i ask what score you achieve with 3dm11 cpuscore? with your tdx ram? i get 12800 outoff my 3770k with 2133 mushkin redline @ 2200 cl 9

flexnl
11-02-2012, 07:58 PM
Is this challenge not limited to dimms at 2400mhz??? So tune the Tridents at 2400 then. They will do well at 2400 I think. 9-11-10-25 1T or lower ;)

i think soo 2 :D:D they shouldd 4 that price! haha

Zka17
11-02-2012, 08:28 PM
tnks ..good advice..
can i ask what score you achieve with 3dm11 cpuscore? with your tdx ram? i get 12800 outoff my 3770k with 2133 mushkin redline @ 2200 cl 9

LOL, that's a good question... I will have to look in my notes... - but you also could check my submissions on HWBOT... :)

Edit: I found this for you - with the 3770k (WC), TridentX memory and one GTX670 (stock cooling)
http://hwbot.org/submission/2315848_zka17_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_6 70_10604_marks

flexnl
11-02-2012, 08:35 PM
ah oke thats nice a little bit more :P...nice clocks on your 680 also ...do you know what clocks you got, wen you were on stock cooling? :D

Zka17
11-02-2012, 08:38 PM
ah oke thats nice a little bit more :P...nice clocks on your 680 also ...do you know what clocks you got, wen you were on stock cooling? :D

You also could just click on "The Chronicle of My TestBench" in my signature... :cool:

8 Pack
11-02-2012, 08:54 PM
Zaki my Trident do 9-11-10-25 1T at 2400 for 3D with tight seconds and LB2. You tried this??? Will improve your score and 9-11-11-25 1T to 2500+.

Good clock on 680 by the way.

I have been working on mine but am stuck until I get a new bios. Whats the top clock Precision can apply????? or GPU tweak??? any idea??

Alex-Ro
11-02-2012, 09:17 PM
First score around,some room for improvement,had to search deef for some good old win xp :)

SPI 1M : 8.656
SPI 32M: 7M 36.938

Intel I7 3770K@4200 mhz,2400 corsair platinum ram,maximus V gene.

Username : http://www.hwbot.org/user/alex_ro/

Will post a picture of my rig tomorrow,it's night and my phone's camera hates nighttime :)

HiVizMan
11-02-2012, 09:36 PM
First score around,some room for improvement,had to search deef for some good old win xp :)

SPI 1M : 8.656
SPI 32M: 7M 36.938

Intel I7 3770K@4200 mhz,2400 corsair platinum ram,maximus V gene.

Username : http://www.hwbot.org/user/alex_ro/

Will post a picture of my rig tomorrow,it's night and my phone's camera hates nighttime :)

Now that is how to make an entrance. 55546.60

Cheers for the submission Alex and welcome to the top of the leader board.

Fellow ROG'rs I present Alex-Ro our new Super Pi challenge number 1.

Henkenator68NL
11-02-2012, 10:11 PM
Well I did manage to shave of some time of both M1 and M32 test..

Does this put me back in the lead??

CPU@3500MHz
RAM@2400MHz

Super Pi 1M score: 10.390s

13319

Super Pi 32M score: 9m09.402s
13318

13317

HiVizMan
11-02-2012, 10:26 PM
So so very close at the top. Henk your new ER is .... 55594.07

Only 47.47 between you two. That is about 2 seconds needs to be shaved off your 32Mil time. :D


Leader Board updated.

This is quite amazing really. We have five submissions below the 56 barrier, and it is so tight at the sharp end of the leader board that I can not predict who is going to come out top at this stage.

So far I am very impressed with all you guys, the huge gains that you all have made in your benching of Super Pi 32 mil can not be understated. Well done to all, and keep those submissions coming.

Zka17
11-03-2012, 04:30 AM
Good job, Alex!

Unde esti in Ro?

Henkenator68NL
11-03-2012, 08:54 AM
So so very close at the top. Henk your new ER is .... 55594.07

Only 47.47 between you two. That is about 2 seconds needs to be shaved off your 32Mil time. :D


Leader Board updated.

This is quite amazing really. We have five submissions below the 56 barrier, and it is so tight at the sharp end of the leader board that I can not predict who is going to come out top at this stage.

So far I am very impressed with all you guys, the huge gains that you all have made in your benching of Super Pi 32 mil can not be understated. Well done to all, and keep those submissions coming.

Thanks M8,

So far this has been a real learning challenge.

What Is the ultimate ER possible?

In other words can I still gain in ER on this frequency??

Alex-Ro
11-03-2012, 09:23 AM
and here is the picture

13336

HiVizMan
11-03-2012, 09:49 AM
Thanks Alex - you will no longer need to submit a hardware photo unless you change your hardware used.

Henk - I expect the winner to break the 555000 barrier. I did not expect 5 people to get below 560000. You guys have learnt and are learning very quickly. I can not wait for the next round of submissions. Having looked at the screenshots I can see quite a bit of room for improvements on your submissions by the way. :)

Myk SilentShadow
11-03-2012, 09:55 AM
Is it me, or does the top of that cooler on Alex's CPU look like the "Decepticon" Insignia? lol

Alex-Ro
11-03-2012, 09:58 AM
Hehe,it does resemble something of that.It's an old trusty megahalems,2 years already and doing a great job.

HiVizMan
11-03-2012, 10:01 AM
Hehe,it does resemble something of that.It's an old trusty megahalems,2 years already and doing a great job.

Exactly the same cooler that I use. I do not even bother to fasten down it is such a star performer.

Henkenator68NL
11-03-2012, 10:04 AM
Is it me, or does the top of that cooler on Alex's CPU look like the "Decepticon" Insignia? lol

13337
it sure looks like it

LOL

Myk SilentShadow
11-03-2012, 10:04 AM
Exactly the same cooler that I use. I do not even bother to fasten down it is such a star performer.

o.O aren't you supposed to fasten coolers down? you know...keep it from falling off the CPU if the case is vertically mounted lol

HiVizMan
11-03-2012, 10:09 AM
o.O aren't you supposed to fasten coolers down? you know...keep it from falling off the CPU if the case is vertically mounted lol

Who has a case? :D

Myk SilentShadow
11-03-2012, 10:37 AM
Who has a case? :D

Right right!!! Pro bencher here!! kinda slipped my mind lol :p

Kr0nz3
11-03-2012, 01:14 PM
First scores


Hardware:
CPU - Intel i7 3570k @ 4400Mhz
Mobo - Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z
Cooling - H20
Memory - G Skill Ripjaws X 2133Mhz @2400mhz

1M 8sec 265ms

13344

32M 7min 36sec 235ms

13345

Picture of the system:

Will post pic when my phone has charged

HiVizMan
11-03-2012, 01:49 PM
Nice to see the new faces posting up.

Kr0nz3 56440.34

Please submit your HWBOT user link before I can update the Leader board.


edit: sorry mate this contest is for ROG Supreme only. Are you planning on joining the lads here on ROG? Will leave your score for now, but when the football is done I will change the log again.

Henkenator68NL
11-03-2012, 01:50 PM
Oke this the last squeezed out of my benching on 3500MHz..

Just 1 more second improvement on the 32M test.

So the Super Pi 1M (already posted before): 10.390S
13347

Super Pi 32M score: 9m08.578s

13346

So will this 1 second give me an improvement on the ER??

Now the hunt continues on other CPU frequency.

HiVizMan
11-03-2012, 02:00 PM
Oke this the last squeezed out of my benching on 3500MHz..

Just 1 more second improvement on the 32M test.

So the Super Pi 1M (already posted before): 10.390S


Super Pi 32M score: 9m08.578s



So will this 1 second give me an improvement on the ER??

Now the hunt continues on other CPU frequency.

55565.23 Closer still.

HiVizMan
11-03-2012, 02:05 PM
Leader Board

1 Alex-Ro 55546.60
2 henkenator68NL 55565.23
3 Chino 55797.74
4 Zka17 55873.47
5 flexnl 55977.70
6 Kr0nz3 56440.34
7 Squallalaha 56761.71
8 Arne Saknussemm 56977.70
9 THE SE7EN SINS 57470.19
10 Nodens 57518.8
11 Dartmaul 57647.74
12 Sinebrychof 58153.5
13 smokeintheeye 59276.83
14 RonanC 59797.54

Kr0nz3
11-03-2012, 03:38 PM
Nice to see the new faces posting up.

Kr0nz3 56440.34

Please submit your HWBOT user link before I can update the Leader board.


edit: sorry mate this contest is for ROG Supreme only. Are you planning on joining the lads here on ROG? Will leave your score for now, but when the football is done I will change the log again.


Team changed
http://hwbot.org/user/kr0nz3/

HiVizMan
11-03-2012, 04:03 PM
Cheers thanks - time to bench some Super Pi

8 Pack
11-04-2012, 10:05 AM
Who has a case? :D

Not me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alex-Ro
11-04-2012, 10:49 AM
Some improvements in 32M,cpu@4200

Spi 1M score: 8.656 as posted in previous post

Spi 32M Score: 7M 33.890 s

HiVizMan
11-04-2012, 12:12 PM
Very nice Alex 55418.48

Now the bar has well and truly been raised.

Luumi
11-04-2012, 03:09 PM
Some pretty nice numbers alex :p.

Kr0nz3
11-04-2012, 10:32 PM
Got some tweaking done over the weekend


Hardware:
CPU - Intel i7 3570k @ 4400Mhz
Mobo - Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z
Cooling - H20
Memory - G Skill Ripjaws X 2133Mhz @2400Mhz


1M 8sec 218ms

http://imageshack.us/a/img690/3636/1m8218.jpg

32M 7min 14sec 954ms

http://imageshack.us/a/img442/3261/32m714954.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img835/9124/kr0nz3.jpg

Zka17
11-05-2012, 01:57 AM
Now it's time for a new submission... major changes in the storage device and OS... - previously had an SSD with Win7 64-bit, now it's a HDD with WinXP 32-bit (all SuperPi-specific tweaks included)


Hardware:
CPU - Intel Core i7-2700k @ 4200MHz
Mobo - Asus Maximus V Gene
Cooling - Water cooled: EK Supreme HF, XSPC RX360, Swiftech MCP655
Memory - Corsair Dominator GT @ 2133MHz

Note: Memories now needing their cooler...

System:

13402

Super Pi 1M: 8sec 454msec

13403

Super Pi 32M: 7min 25sec 969msec

13404

HWBOT link: http://hwbot.org/user/zka17/

Luumi
11-05-2012, 02:11 AM
Still here :P. Could this be a step forward, or back. I added memtweakit on the 1M submission aswell so if someone of you has some tips I could change, I'd be happy to hear them.

1M
13405

32M
13406

13408

http://hwbot.org/user/luumi/

Chino
11-05-2012, 04:02 AM
My final entry. Nothing spectacular but had fun along the way.

Congrats Zka for being first place, again lol. And for being the first to break the 55000 barrier. ;)

Hardware
CPU - Intel i7 3770K @ 3500 MHz
Mobo - Asus Maximus V Extreme
Cooling - Antec KUHLER H2O 920
Memory - Corsair Dominator Platinum @ 2000 MHz

SuperPi score: 10sec 391ms
13411


SuperPi 32m score: 9min 7sec 703ms
13412

HiVizMan
11-05-2012, 10:20 AM
Got some tweaking done over the weekend


Hardware:
CPU - Intel i7 3570k @ 4400Mhz
Mobo - Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z
Cooling - H20
Memory - G Skill Ripjaws X 2133Mhz @2400Mhz


1M 8sec 218ms


32M 7min 14sec 954ms


Nice one Ash - 55297.18

And that puts you in first place for now. Busy with the rest of the submissions that were added over night.

HiVizMan
11-05-2012, 10:58 AM
Still here :P. Could this be a step forward, or back. I added memtweakit on the 1M submission aswell so if someone of you has some tips I could change, I'd be happy to hear them.

1M

32M

http://hwbot.org/user/luumi/

Huge improvement 57055.29

HiVizMan
11-05-2012, 11:02 AM
Hardware
CPU - Intel i7 3770K @ 3500 MHz
Mobo - Asus Maximus V Extreme
Cooling - Antec KUHLER H2O 920
Memory - Corsair Dominator Platinum @ 2000 MHz

SuperPi score: 10sec 391ms



SuperPi 32m score: 9min 7sec 703ms

55538.11 Nice improvement too mate.

PlaneName
11-05-2012, 11:37 AM
Good job everyone!

My system is vintage, not doing the challenge :P

HiVizMan
11-05-2012, 11:39 AM
Good job everyone!

My system is vintage, not doing the challenge :P

Enter and learn how to run Super Pi and anyway just by entering you are in the draw for a prize. What have you got to loose?

PlaneName
11-05-2012, 11:46 AM
Enter and learn how to run Super Pi and anyway just by entering you are in the draw for a prize. What have you got to loose?

I was, but my system isn't stable anymore having allot of issues within the past week. Especially with the BSOD issues that I'm currently having.

My thread:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?24895-My-system-is-finally-dying!-(Yes!!-P)&p=179730#post179730

HiVizMan
11-05-2012, 11:53 AM
If you change your mind you will be very welcome to join us.

flexnl
11-05-2012, 01:08 PM
1m13425
32m13426
http://hwbot.org/user/flexjenl/
myrig 13422
http://hwbot.org/user/flexjenl/

HiVizMan
11-05-2012, 01:15 PM
http://hwbot.org/user/flexjenl/


Here you go. 55906.39

Will update Leader Board when I get back this afternoon.

HiVizMan
11-05-2012, 03:50 PM
Now it's time for a new submission... major changes in the storage device and OS... - previously had an SSD with Win7 64-bit, now it's a HDD with WinXP 32-bit (all SuperPi-specific tweaks included)


Hardware:
CPU - Intel Core i7-2700k @ 4200MHz
Mobo - Asus Maximus V Gene
Cooling - Water cooled: EK Supreme HF, XSPC RX360, Swiftech MCP655
Memory - Corsair Dominator GT @ 2133MHz

Note: Memories now needing their cooler...

System:

13402

Super Pi 1M: 8sec 454msec

13403

Super Pi 32M: 7min 25sec 969msec

13404

HWBOT link: http://hwbot.org/user/zka17/

Nice one Zka17 54955.70 first to break the 55000 barrier.

Leader Board will be updated soon.

HiVizMan
11-05-2012, 03:56 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen the new leader of the Super Pi Challenge with an incredible sub 55000 score, I present to you:


Zka17 54955.70

Alex-Ro
11-05-2012, 04:25 PM
It's time to raise the bar then :

Cpu@4200

Spi 1M : 8.594
SPi32M: 7M 28.234

HiVizMan
11-05-2012, 04:43 PM
It's time to raise the bar then :

Cpu@4200

Spi 1M : 8.594
SPi32M: 7M 28.234

Alex-Ro retakes the top spot on the Leader board with a fantastic 54920.63

Love it, keep them coming guys. This is what a challenge should be like.

Once more the pride of Romania is our leader.

Leader Board updated.

1 Alex-Ro 54920.63
2 Zka17 54955.70
3 Kr0nz3 55297.18
4 Chino 55538.11
5 henkenator68NL 55565.23
6 flexnl 55906.39
7 Squallalaha 56761.71
8 Arne Saknussemm 56977.70
9 Sinebrychof 57055.29
10 THE SE7EN SINS 57470.19
11 Nodens 57518.80
12 Dartmaul 57647.74
13 smokeintheeye 59276.83
14 RonanC 59797.54

Luumi
11-05-2012, 05:42 PM
Probably no gains at all but still fun to play with the numbers.

1M
13430

32M
13429

13431

http://hwbot.org/user/luumi/

HiVizMan
11-05-2012, 05:54 PM
Nope not an improvement. Both your 1 mil and your 32 mil were better last time.

58226.83

Arne Saknussemm
11-05-2012, 06:07 PM
Way to go Zka17!!:D and Alex quick comeback!

Kr0nz3
11-05-2012, 08:47 PM
Nice work Alex-Ro and Zka17

Keep Pushing guys

Zka17
11-05-2012, 10:19 PM
Thanks, guys! Will try my best... however may switch to 3770k as my last submission is at the very edge of that system... :cool:

BTW, welcome Kr0nz3, both to the ROG Forum and to the ROG Supreme OC! I heard good things about you... expect to see couple strong submissions from you too... :)

8 Pack
11-06-2012, 12:44 PM
Great efforts both Alex and Zaki. Keep tuning those benches!!!

Zka17
11-07-2012, 12:52 AM
Thanks, 8 Pack!

HiVizMan had a good observation... - somehow my maxmem setting went away for the 32M run... So, hope, setting that back could get some improvement... :)

sumonpathak
11-07-2012, 11:47 AM
umm...am late i suppose...but how are you calculating the efficiency?

NVM...just saw the mandatory team member clause...
good luck guys...

kkn
11-07-2012, 11:59 AM
just sign up on the site and join the team ( im a no member and dont do this ).
its free and its for funn :)
its achallenge for you self to get the best out of your system :)

Arne Saknussemm
11-07-2012, 12:15 PM
Yeah, go for it...there's a whole load of info in the thread if you need it for tweaking etc. As kkn said it's mainly for the fun and learning benching.:D

sumonpathak
11-07-2012, 12:22 PM
just sign up on the site and join the team ( im a no member and dont do this ).
its free and its for funn :)
its achallenge for you self to get the best out of your system :)


Yeah, go for it...there's a whole load of info in the thread if you need it for tweaking etc. As kkn said it's mainly for the fun and learning benching.:D
am already on a team...dominating the Indian scene currently :)
cant leave my baby.

Squallalaha
11-07-2012, 02:20 PM
My final entry. Nothing spectacular but had fun along the way.

Congrats Zka for being first place, again lol. And for being the first to break the 55000 barrier. ;)


How did you know he broke 55000 so long before it was calculated by HiViz? I take it you know or have the formula? Since its an effciency rating he came up with.

I don't understand how this helps people learn to OC, if its efficiency based and a 4.2GHZ CPU and 2133 ram is leading the way. CPU has to be the same for each test, but the memory can be different. It seems as if the memory, is whats getting the better efficiency and the CPU has less and less to do with a score.

Is there a difference in 'efficiency'; if you run a i7-920 @4.2, a 2700K @ 4.2, a 3770K @ 4.2 or a 3960x @ 4.2 ?

Zka17
11-07-2012, 02:32 PM
Well, Squallalaha, one thing here is the memory controller... which is built in the newer CPUs... - that will define how well your memories can perform...

It is known that the Ivy Bridge has the best controller... but the efficiency rating depends on more factors than that... if you read carefully this thread, you will figure out what I'm talking about... - it's definitely a learning process! If you have doubts about it, just check the submissions from the same people...

Luumi
11-07-2012, 02:57 PM
Some attems on winxp, something is still wrong with it bue I'll just throw a fast attempt although there will not be any gains I think.

1M
13493

32M
13494



13495

http://hwbot.org/user/luumi/

HiVizMan
11-07-2012, 04:34 PM
Yeah as per our many PM's something is not right. 58226.82


Note to all XP users. I have assumed that you knew to enable Large System Cache for 32mil. That will make a huge difference in your times.

HiVizMan
11-07-2012, 04:41 PM
I don't understand how this helps people learn to OC, if its efficiency based and a 4.2GHZ CPU and 2133 ram is leading the way. CPU has to be the same for each test, but the memory can be different. It seems as if the memory, is whats getting the better efficiency and the CPU has less and less to do with a score.

Is there a difference in 'efficiency'; if you run a i7-920 @4.2, a 2700K @ 4.2, a 3770K @ 4.2 or a 3960x @ 4.2 ?

Learning how to set up memory is part of overclocking and tweaking.

There is a huge difference between 920 and a 2700K in effieceny. About 17% Between a 2700K and 3770K about 2.47% that might seem small but it is huge in benching terms.

The more you try things, the more you learn about your system by trying things, the more your are learning to tweak. The CPU has much to do with the score but you are thinking about CPU's in the old way, CPU's now are memory controllers too. So really you can not remove the memory and the CPU and try and put them in two different groups.

As to the frequency, well there is a sweet spot for the most effient Super PI run, part of the challange was finding that sweet spot for your (and for the others too) CPU. It might not be the same, and will not really be the same for all. But that is now being explored by folks like Alex for example. He is now working really hard on finding more efficiency.

Tweaking in the 32 mil is hugely important. That has nothing to do with Ram or CPU but on how you manage your OS and your benching method. Some are working very hard and are learning heaps, good for them. Others are having a bit of fun and enjoying just being part of a fun event, great for them too.

Each one must take what they want, or what best suits their needs from this thread and the challange :)


I hope that helps

Squallalaha
11-07-2012, 05:34 PM
Why then do i see so much blind guessing at improvements on efficiency scores? If its easy to obtain from reading this thread, which I have, twice now... why do some still seem to 'blindly' take pot shots on changing settings?

To learn is to know why you are changing what to reach a better outcome.

Its a mathematics equation and unfortunately everyone is trying to solve for 'x' = Efficiency, however without knowing all teh variables taken into account, you cant solve for X and end up solving for 'i' the imaginary number.

You can improve maybe, but you still do not know why. Too many variables and unknowns.

HiVizMan
11-07-2012, 05:38 PM
Yeah you are quite right, and it is for that reason that I have repeatedly suggested finding frequency first, then ram and then the other stuff. But each one must work stuff out in their own way, in that way that they are comfortable with. People are not the same, and that means different ways to get to the same or similar outcome.

And I would not have it any other way. :)

Luumi
11-07-2012, 07:52 PM
Some more tries.

1M Still my best 1M run and at the same cpu frequency.
13500

32M
13501

13503

http://hwbot.org/user/luumi/

HiVizMan
11-07-2012, 10:09 PM
Some more tries.

1M Still my best 1M run and at the same cpu frequency.


32M

http://hwbot.org/user/luumi/

56908.89



Right direction for sure. :)

asipamn
11-08-2012, 10:47 AM
my 1st attempt...dont have any rog hardware though :(

1M :
13533
32M :
13534

desktop :
13532

HiVizMan
11-08-2012, 11:57 AM
Welcome asipamn 59220.53 Don't forget to include your Hwbot user link the first time please. When you do I will update the leader board. :)

asipamn
11-08-2012, 01:17 PM
here's the profile link : http://hwbot.org/user/asipamn/

asipamn
11-09-2012, 06:23 AM
slight improvement after much googling tips

1M :
13557

32M :
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/2/947403/up2.jpg


I cant seem to upload the 32M score to this forum. I dont understand why. So I upload at my file site.

HWBOT profile : http://hwbot.org/user/asipamn/

HiVizMan
11-09-2012, 09:20 AM
Size of the file, change your format to jpg and keep it small in size, there is a limit to the size you may upload.

60121.01


Your efficiency went down this time. May I suggest you find a frequency that you are comfortable benching at and stick with it. I have used 4.4GHz, our two leaders have used 4.2GHz. But the point is bouncing around frequency wise does not make it easy to judge improvements.

And you have pm.

Alex-Ro
11-09-2012, 12:30 PM
Little update with my other memory kit,glad i kept good old 2x2GB :)

So,cpu@4200 mhz.

1M: 8.578
32M: 7m 27.859 s

Luumi
11-09-2012, 12:43 PM
G.Skill PI ram Alex :p?

Zka17
11-09-2012, 12:50 PM
Alex, you caught me there! If you're able to use a 4GB kit, perhaps I can not catch you up with my 8GB kits... but, won't give up! :cool: Hope, this weekend will have enough time for the SuperPi...

HiVizMan
11-09-2012, 01:07 PM
2GB individual sticks will out perform 4 GB sticks for tight latency. That is just the nature of the design.

We have our first sub 55.

54838.99

Zka17
11-09-2012, 01:09 PM
2GB individual sticks will out perform 4 GB sticks for tight latency.

Yeap, that's ^^^ what I meant... :)

Congrats Alex!

Alex-Ro
11-09-2012, 01:14 PM
Well thank you,but you know,there is always room to improve :) Not pi series,ripjaws x,pretty rare kit with elpida bbse.Pi series are with PSC mostly.

HiVizMan
11-09-2012, 01:24 PM
Alex I have a couple of sets of both, and they are my precious if you understand the Hobbit reference. :)

Have replied to you PM.

HiVizMan
11-09-2012, 01:46 PM
Replied to your second PM and yes you were correct.

54838.99

Alex-Ro
11-09-2012, 02:31 PM
Alex I have a couple of sets of both, and they are my precious if you understand the Hobbit reference. :)

Have replied to you PM.

Oh boy,nothing compares to a good psc kit :)

Arne Saknussemm
11-09-2012, 05:38 PM
1m
13609
32m
13610


Thought I'd try a platter HDD a caviar black.....and stripped os

EDIT: just noticed CPUz was not reporting CPU correctly......had a hell of a time having 3 tabs open and taking a screenshot with the stripped OS yesterday...So went with full OS and ran again.....

Skull6
11-09-2012, 06:25 PM
I've seen plenty of outstanding scores & some nice rigs here, but the one thing I haven't seen is just what pi out to n32 looks like.

Great job so far, all !

Arne Saknussemm
11-09-2012, 06:59 PM
Here you go...it looks like this: π ;)

Skull6
11-09-2012, 09:40 PM
Sorry. Guess I should have been more clear. I meant that I'd like to see it...

in binary code--or Roman numerals--you pick. ;)

asipamn
11-10-2012, 07:50 AM
here's 500 :

3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 10582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706 7 98214808653282306647093844609550582231725359408128 48111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196 44288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091 45648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273 72458700660631558817488152092096282925409171536436 78925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094 33057270365759591953092186117381932611793105118548 0744623799627495673518857527248912279381830119491

HiVizMan
11-10-2012, 11:43 AM
I've seen plenty of outstanding scores & some nice rigs here, but the one thing I haven't seen is just what pi out to n32 looks like.

Great job so far, all !

Download the wallpaper that is what I did and then had Chris make it look pretty. The entire back ground is the printout of working pi to 32Mil there are still 129 pages still.

Skull6
11-10-2012, 04:37 PM
"...like water off a duck's back." Thanks for the honest effort. I was trying to bring some more humor into it is all.

& I'll be bring more humor soon. I'm going to run the Super Pi on my G75VW-BBK5. That'll show ya! ;)

Zka17
11-10-2012, 04:55 PM
OK, guys, now I swapped my CPU... started running SuperPi on the 3770k... :cool:

This is just a teasing submission, still working on the primary timings only (no OS tweak applied yet)

So, the hardware:

CPU - 4200MHz
RAM - 2400MHz

Super Pi 1M: 8sec 672msec

13613

Super Pi 32M: 7min 38sec 094msec

13614

Alex-Ro
11-10-2012, 05:11 PM
Very nice!

Zka17
11-10-2012, 05:15 PM
Thanks, Alex! Are you still tweaking?

asipamn
11-10-2012, 09:05 PM
is there any online app to calculate efficiency so that i dont have to post so much?

Zka17
11-10-2012, 09:34 PM
is there any online app to calculate efficiency so that i dont have to post so much?

I don't know about it... but if you follow HiVizMan's advice, you pick a CPU frequency and stick to it, then you find the best RAM frequency and you just play with the timings... - then lower the Super Pi times at the same CPU and RAM speed, higher will be your efficiency... :cool:

Please, check your PM!

Skull6
11-10-2012, 10:03 PM
Read 'em & weep, y'all!


http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x243/Skull6/SuperPiCompNov20121M.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x243/Skull6/SuperPiCompNov201232M.jpg

Weep for me, that is. ;)

(While I love this G75VW-BBK5, It's just NOT the nuclear reactor that many of yours are!)

Good luck!

Oh, & if someone could tell my what I'm doing incorrectly such that I'm apparently not getting the recommended 1920 X 1080 resolution (which is what my display is set to in these images), I'd sure appreciate it. (Didn't notice it until running these tests...)