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Jonathanyu96
11-22-2012, 10:58 PM
Hi, so I am hoping to buy an Asus G75-VW for Christmas, since I found that it is the best gaming laptop out there right now. And then I started seeing people talk about getting a SSD for it, because there are good benefits to it. So I did some research about it, and the thing is, I'm not one of those people who can easily understand the whole process posted on various forums. I can kind of understand the beginning, but then my mind just blows up from reading about "partitions, setting up bios, Trim, downloading drivers for that, etc". Also, the best I can do is get the "gist" of it, which is not good, because I have to know the specific steps in order to perform the SSD installation without errors.

At first, I thought that the installation was simple, but...I found out that it actually MIGHT not work for some people! Like I read that having an image go from a bigger drive to a smaller drive will not work...And that you have to download a separate program which can do that and etc...<------See, those are the things that made me go here and ask for help from a person who is more knowledgeable than me. I know that you guys find these stuff easy, so I ask you guys, to please showoff your knowledge and help a noob (me) out.

Ok so far, I decided that I want to install a SSD to the laptop, for the Windows 7 OS and games. Then I want to keep the 1 TB, slow ass, HDD for other stuff. <---I guess that is the configuration most people go for and find it simple to do. As for the SSD, I haven't decided which one to buy. I guess I will be looking for deals on Black Friday or Christmas.
So I heard that you can "clone" and stuff, which is basically cloning your HDD to the SSD. I seens videos of that so I know how that works. But I decided that I won't do that, because I found out the disadvantages of doing that.

And I found that doing a "fresh install" is way better. I tried researching more of the steps on that and in the end, my brain told me to come here and ask for help. I thought it was a simple procedure, but then I got confused about burning disks with the recovery utility on the Asus (I also found out that first thing you do when getting an Asus, delete the original utility disk and download the latest one), creating partitions, bios, requiring the actual Windows 7 os disc, etc...

So can you guys please explain the process, step by step, on how to install SSD to an Asus G75vw laptop by doing a fresh install? I will probably be doing this right off the bat when I get the laptop. I hope the procedure is simple, but then if it isn't, I might keep just the HDD. I'm sure that not everyone who buys a laptop does this, installing a SSD. I have a laptop right now, which was bought like 4 years ago. And I'm pretty sure it only has a HDD and I've never complained about the boot speed and etc.
Thanks so much guys. This is my first time using this forum and I hope you guys can help a noob out. And have a good Thanksgiving?

mrwolf
11-23-2012, 01:38 AM
Hey there Jonathanyu96, Welcome to the forum :)

I just came across your thread and basically to put it short, its pretty late where i am now but all your questions can be answered lol. I would answer it now but will take me quiet a while to type and its very late, so will do tomorro unless someone gets there before me :P.

The whole process is quite simple actually and since you plan to do a clean install, should be even more simple. I did the same by the way, Put in a 250GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD as my primary boot+gaming drive and have the 1TB as my secondary drive. Best upgrade i ever did to my laptop.. Anyways it seems you have done your reading so it should be pretty straightforward when given the steps.

For now, have a look at an old thread of mine, when i was getting ready to install my SSD pretty much when i first got my G-series.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?19520-Advice-for-new-SSD-installation

dstrakele
11-23-2012, 01:49 AM
Remember - @Jonathan may be attempting to install Windows 7 to an SSD on a laptop that ships with Windows 8. From what I've read, it's more complicated than the simple install of Windows 7 to an SSD on a laptop that shipped with Windows 7.

Apexing
11-23-2012, 07:18 AM
Ive tried looking up the procedure for downgrading from windows 8 to windows7, turns out you need to have windows 8 pro, aswell as a windows 7 media and a valid windows 7 key, im just going by what is written here https://www.pcworld.com/article/2015107/downgrading-from-windows-8-to-7-what-you-need-to-know.html?page=2 the article is 2 days old so should be relevant.
For the whole thing on how to install a SSD, remove the screws from the large backplate, when thats done you can see that in the buttom a harddrive is already installed, you can unscrew it and take it out if you want the SSD do go in slot A insted of slot B (does not really matter) if you are unsure how to turn the new SSD just look at the old HD and make it similar. Now you got your SSD installed, pop the backplate back on (wait screwing it back on incase you get issues) turn on the laptop, enter bios by pressing the DEL key, try and find the area that mentions bootorder. make the SSD in the 2nd spot, the 1st spot should be your dvd/blueray drive. then once thats choose exit and save. now put in your windows install media (guessing you use a disc) then it will boot up into the installer, from there you can select to format the big old 1TB drive. and then install it onto the SSD.

The biggest hurdle does seem to get the windows 7 disc+key. and that is if the asus arrives with windows 8 pro.
If it was me I would really just stay on windows 8, then download the disc somewhere from the net, either burn it onto a disc or make a windows usb (you can google these things, since the laptop does not arrive with a disc) or you can use a piece of software called Paragon Migrate OS to SSD (I have personaly used that one myself) again you can find the full version somewhere online if you dont wish to buy it.

Apexing
11-23-2012, 07:43 AM
Ive tried looking up the procedure for downgrading from windows 8 to windows7, turns out you need to have windows 8 pro, aswell as a windows 7 media and a valid windows 7 key, im just going by what is written here https://www.pcworld.com/article/2015107/downgrading-from-windows-8-to-7-what-you-need-to-know.html?page=2 the article is 2 days old so should be relevant.
For the whole thing on how to install a SSD, remove the screws from the large backplate, when thats done you can see that in the buttom a harddrive is already installed, you can unscrew it and take it out if you want the SSD do go in slot A insted of slot B (does not really matter) if you are unsure how to turn the new SSD just look at the old HD and make it similar. Now you got your SSD installed, pop the backplate back on (wait screwing it back on incase you get issues) turn on the laptop, enter bios by pressing the DEL key, try and find the area that mentions bootorder. make the SSD in the 2nd spot, the 1st spot should be your dvd/blueray drive. Go into each tab/area and look for where there is something that say ACHI put that to enabled. then once thats done choose exit and save. now put in your windows install media (guessing you use a disc) then it will boot up into the installer, from there you can select to format the big old 1TB drive. and then install it onto the SSD.

The biggest hurdle does seem to get the windows 7 disc+key. and that is if the asus arrives with windows 8 pro.
If it was me I would really just stay on windows 8, then download the disc somewhere from the net, either burn it onto a disc or make a windows usb (you can google these things, since the laptop does not arrive with a disc) or you can use a piece of software called Paragon Migrate OS to SSD (I have personaly used that one myself) again you can find the full version somewhere online if you dont wish to buy it.

Jonathanyu96
11-23-2012, 10:02 PM
Hey there Jonathanyu96, Welcome to the forum :)

I just came across your thread and basically to put it short, its pretty late where i am now but all your questions can be answered lol. I would answer it now but will take me quiet a while to type and its very late, so will do tomorro unless someone gets there before me :P.

The whole process is quite simple actually and since you plan to do a clean install, should be even more simple. I did the same by the way, Put in a 250GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD as my primary boot+gaming drive and have the 1TB as my secondary drive. Best upgrade i ever did to my laptop.. Anyways it seems you have done your reading so it should be pretty straightforward when given the steps.

For now, have a look at an old thread of mine, when i was getting ready to install my SSD pretty much when i first got my G-series.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?19520-Advice-for-new-SSD-installation
Thank you so much. If you do help me, I would really appreciate your help. I am kind of on the verge of not getting a SSD, but when I checked back this post, I felt encouraged to keep my decision on buying a SSD.
I checked your old thread and I was able to gain some few knowledge. I am relieved that what I am trying to do, was already accomplished by you so I found the right person to get help from.

Right now, I think I know the steps, but I don't know what order there are suppose to be in.
So I will just list the steps required in the process to show how much I know. And from there, again, I would really appreciate if you can teach me till I can do the installation like a pro.

Ok so the steps I know (not in order):
-For removing the backplate and putting in the SSD, I think I know that. I have watched the video which most people refer to for the SSD installation.
-Delete the original Asus Utility and download the latest one
-Then with the new Utility thing (sorry for poor tech lang), make back up recovery discs (and see I don't know if I have to do that either since I will be doing the installation right when I get the laptop)
-Update the firmware of the SSD
-Then burn a windows 7 onto a disc and use the activation code (which I guess is on the laptop)
-I don't if in the whole process, the SSD has to be in only or it can be in the second slot the whole time
-Oh maybe, make the recovery discs with the HDD in, then pull HDD out, put SSD in, then start...omg idk lol
-Then there is the AHCI thing, I guess making sure it is in AHCI
-Then there is also the updating the latest drivers and for sure, I don't what order that is in the whole process
-I am also confused how the recovery disc Asus came with plays in the process

So those are the steps, definitely not in order, I know that will have to be done during the whole process. If you are willing, I would appreciate it if you can make a step by step list. I feel so bad and lazy for requesting this, but I hope you can take this lightly and for fun and help a noob out. Thank you so much.

rewben
11-25-2012, 04:32 AM
doing a fresh install of windows 7 on an SSD should be fairly easy. however, there are some unknown configurations (for instance in the bios that comes with your model) to us (as we own the win7 version). from this thread (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?25500-HELP-!!-How-to-install-Win7-on-a-Win8-pre-loaded-G75vw-%28Suicide-mode-almost-ON!%29), the win8 version of g75vw has a different bios (2.18, which couldn't be found at ASUS website). he could not get the win7 install disk to load, until he flashed the bios to 2.21 (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?25500-HELP-!!-How-to-install-Win7-on-a-Win8-pre-loaded-G75vw-(Suicide-mode-almost-ON!)&p=187444&viewfull=1#post187444), and enabled an option called "Launch CSM" (which i think it means "Custom Source Media" hehe) in the boot option in the bios.

first, you can try to load the windows 7 install disk/usb with your current bios and see if your system allowed you to run it. if it's not, you need to flash your bios first to proceed.

secondly, you will need to buy a new windows 7 key for your downgrade, because from what Apexing pointed out, only windows 8 pro is eligible for downgrading without paying extras.

when you have both the above solved, then the rest should be easy, i think.

edit: to give you a clearer picture on what you're going to do, here is what the stages are:

1. create and back up your windows 8 system image
- you can create a system image for your stock windows by using its built-in backup feature.
- you might also wanna grab your windows 8 key by following these steps (http://support.asus.com/repair.aspx?no=605&SLanguage=en) (look for "Where can I find information on my Windows 8 product key?"). from what i've read, the windows will be automatically activated with your stock bios. however, to be safe, do this as a backup.

2. grab the latest bios and drivers from ASUS Website
- if you don't have the windows 7 installation disk, grab the relevant ISO also.
- as for your current bios, you should be able to find a copy in your C:\ (it might be hidden, so you need to turn on "show hidden files" in your windows explorer).
- save all these files into an external storage. create a windows 7 install dvd/usb.

3. set up your bios
- other than the bios setup above, you will also need to make sure that AHCI is selected in your Bios > Advanced Boot > SATA Configurations; you might also need to disable UEFI Boot if there is such an option.

4. prepare your SSD
- you put the new SSD in the secondary bay, and boot your machine; so that you can upgrade its firmware, if any. to do this, you need to get the latest SSD management software from your SSD manufacturer website.

5. fresh windows installation
- here is when you replace your stock HDD with the new SSD (i.e. put it in thevbay where your stock HDD is placed), and then load the windows installation.
- don't put in the stock HDD in the secondary bay yet (take it out of the bay physically). normally we will keep the stock HDD for a while, until the new system is stable.
- if your windows failed to boot, check and make your SSD the first boot option in bios. make sure you take out your installation media upon first reboot. normally it will boot straight away, because it's the only bootable in your system.

6. driver installation
- install the drivers. multiple reboots are required in this stage.

7. run Windows Performance Index
- from what i've read, this triggers SSD optimized settings in windows 7 (e.g. TRIM, prefetch, superfetch, etc.).

by now you should have a working windows 7 running.

edit 2: you might need to disable "Secure Boot Control" in the security tab, too, according to this FAQ page (http://support.asus.com/repair.aspx?no=605&SLanguage=en):
How do I boot to DOS with USB Flash drive or USB CD-ROM?
1. Enter the BIOS setup menu by pressing and holding F2 key when powering on.
2. Switch to "Boot" and set “Launch CSM” to Enabled.
3. Switch to "Security" and set "Secure Boot Control" to Disabled.
4. Press F10 to save and exit.
5. Press and hold ESC key to lunch boot menu when the notebook restarts.

Jonathanyu96
11-25-2012, 08:34 PM
doing a fresh install of windows 7 on an SSD should be fairly easy. however, there are some unknown configurations (for instance in the bios that comes with your model) to us (as we own the win7 version). from this thread (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?25500-HELP-!!-How-to-install-Win7-on-a-Win8-pre-loaded-G75vw-%28Suicide-mode-almost-ON!%29), the win8 version of g75vw has a different bios (2.18, which couldn't be found at ASUS website). he could not get the win7 install disk to load, until he flashed the bios to 2.21 (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?25500-HELP-!!-How-to-install-Win7-on-a-Win8-pre-loaded-G75vw-(Suicide-mode-almost-ON!)&p=187444&viewfull=1#post187444), and enabled an option called "Launch CSM" (which i think it means "Custom Source Media" hehe) in the boot option in the bios.

first, you can try to load the windows 7 install disk/usb with your current bios and see if your system allowed you to run it. if it's not, you need to flash your bios first to proceed.

secondly, you will need to buy a new windows 7 key for your downgrade, because from what Apexing pointed out, only windows 8 pro is eligible for downgrading without paying extras.

when you have both the above solved, then the rest should be easy, i think.

edit: to give you a clearer picture on what you're going to do, here is what the stages are:

1. create and back up your windows 8 system image
- you can create a system image for your stock windows by using its built-in backup feature.
- you might also wanna grab your windows 8 key by following these steps (http://support.asus.com/repair.aspx?no=605&SLanguage=en) (look for "Where can I find information on my Windows 8 product key?"). from what i've read, the windows will be automatically activated with your stock bios. however, to be safe, do this as a backup.

2. grab the latest bios and drivers from ASUS Website
- if you don't have the windows 7 installation disk, grab the relevant ISO also.
- as for your current bios, you should be able to find a copy in your C:\ (it might be hidden, so you need to turn on "show hidden files" in your windows explorer).
- save all these files into an external storage. create a windows 7 install dvd/usb.

3. set up your bios
- other than the bios setup above, you will also need to make sure that AHCI is selected in your Bios > Advanced Boot > SATA Configurations; you might also need to disable UEFI Boot if there is such an option.

4. prepare your SSD
- you put the new SSD in the secondary bay, and boot your machine; so that you can upgrade its firmware, if any. to do this, you need to get the latest SSD management software from your SSD manufacturer website.

5. fresh windows installation
- here is when you replace your stock HDD with the new SSD (i.e. put it in thevbay where your stock HDD is placed), and then load the windows installation.
- don't put in the stock HDD in the secondary bay yet (take it out of the bay physically). normally we will keep the stock HDD for a while, until the new system is stable.
- if your windows failed to boot, check and make your SSD the first boot option in bios. make sure you take out your installation media upon first reboot. normally it will boot straight away, because it's the only bootable in your system.

6. driver installation
- install the drivers. multiple reboots are required in this stage.

7. run Windows Performance Index
- from what i've read, this triggers SSD optimized settings in windows 7 (e.g. TRIM, prefetch, superfetch, etc.).

by now you should have a working windows 7 running.

edit 2: you might need to disable "Secure Boot Control" in the security tab, too, according to this FAQ page (http://support.asus.com/repair.aspx?no=605&SLanguage=en):
How do I boot to DOS with USB Flash drive or USB CD-ROM?
1. Enter the BIOS setup menu by pressing and holding F2 key when powering on.
2. Switch to "Boot" and set “Launch CSM” to Enabled.
3. Switch to "Security" and set "Secure Boot Control" to Disabled.
4. Press F10 to save and exit.
5. Press and hold ESC key to lunch boot menu when the notebook restarts.

Hi thank you so much for your help. I see that you created a step by step list. Unfortunately, there is an option when buying the Asus g75vw to come with windows 7 or windows 8. I dont know if you can only do this for Amazon or it is just a different model. Seeing it is more complicated to do the SSD installation with default Windows 8, Im probably going to try to get an Asus G75vw with windows 7.

mrwolf
11-25-2012, 11:20 PM
Yea that guide pretty much sums it up :) I also recommend you get the windows 7 G75, it makes things much easier..

rewben
11-26-2012, 02:09 AM
well, actually it's easy to do all these. it's just that when i put them in words, it sounds lengthy and complicated. once you have all the tools ready and the laptop set up properly, it's just as simple as:
1. prepare the SSD;
2. swap it with the current disk;
3. install windows and drivers, then activate windows;
4. install necessary software;
5. create system image.

after that, whenever the OS is acting weird, just restore the windows from the system image (skipping all the steps above).

previously, to me the tricky part is to get things work similarly under windows-8-aware laptops (i.e. things like bios-related CSM, Secure Boot and Control options that lock down the laptop to a single OS only); but now it's clear that these restrictions can be disabled under non-w8 circumstances.

gammite
02-05-2013, 11:32 PM
thanks for this. I just exchanged a g75vw-bbk5 for a g75vw-bhi7n07. installing my Samsung 830 ssd on the bbk5 was simple. I was lost for the bhi7n07. the launch csm and disable secure boot allowed me to simply swap my ssd to the bhi7n07 without having to reinstall everything. I simply had to reactivate windows. (most likely due to the new mobo)

thanks again. I banged my head against the desk for an hour before finding this thread.