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skywalker311
01-21-2013, 04:53 AM
Hello, It time for me to get a sound card and I love the way that this card looks.
Even though this would be killer in my new build, I want a great sound card.
I have a 6.1 receiver that I use when watch movie and playing single player games with.
I'm also going to get a new headset. (any recommendations)
I had a plantronics 780 gamecom. I like it but not love it. I couldn't use any of my software with it.
So please no usb recommendations. I'll be using the headset quite a bit with MP gaming and late night movie watching.
If this is the sound card that I'm hopeing for I'll be using it on a Maximus V EXTREME Z77 with a pair of ASUS 680 DC2T.
I might get the RAIDR after I hear more about it. I'm doing a Darth Maul Theme so I want it to match but also look and perform great. So Thanks for any help you can give.

AVtemp
01-21-2013, 09:17 AM
1.Go and by Phoebus.
2.Recommend it to all your friends.
3.Get angry about all bugs that driver has.
4.Start to post new threads on this forum,asking for NEW,NON-BETA driver.
All that will increase our chances to get new software to get this thing work like it should. :)

Read Threads on this forum and only then decide.
I wonder how many ASUS`s employees has Phoebus,guess nobody.

skywalker311
01-21-2013, 11:22 AM
What the F..K is your problem. You need to quit taken that medication that you are on or aleast ask for a lower does. All I'm ask is how they like, love or hate there sound card. I don't have $200 to throw around,
if you do send me yours and I'll test it out. Didn't think so. Just post how you love or hate your Xonar Phoebus. That all that I ask.

AVtemp
01-21-2013, 12:28 PM
Let`s say you have a Ferrari but it can`t go faster than 10 km\hour.
That how it looks like to have Phoebus.
Soundcard has superb specs and dont have good driver.
Is that clear for you?
I`ve already recommended you to read threads,look at the problems you could face as owner of this toy.

Myk SilentShadow
01-21-2013, 12:33 PM
Check this mini user review, by me http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?17927-Xonar-Phoebus-Mini-Review-User-s-Perspective

skywalker311
01-21-2013, 12:55 PM
AVTemp, Thanks you. That all I ask.

skywalker311
01-21-2013, 01:03 PM
Thanks for the mini review. I just want to hear what people have to say about there Xonar Phoebus. Did you ever get your headset and how did they sound with Phoebus I saw the Vulcan but there getting ready to come out with Orion.

AVtemp
01-21-2013, 01:12 PM
You may also read this review
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/07/09/asus_dgx_dsx_xonar_rog_phoebus_sound_cards/

Myk SilentShadow
01-21-2013, 01:14 PM
Thanks for the mini review. I just want to hear what people have to say about there Xonar Phoebus. Did you ever get your headset and how did they sound with Phoebus I saw the Vulcan but there getting ready to come out with Orion.

No worries and no, unfortunately I have yet to complete my review with a headset as i've found myself contsantly broke to afford some headphones...I was gonna get the Vulcan's myself, but one of the online retailers I buy through doesn't have them any more lol

AVtemp
01-21-2013, 01:22 PM
I use Phoebus with 2.0 Sennheiser hd215 and sound is great.
No humming or buzzing in Skype also.
If Asus will fix bugs this will be sound card #1.

InnervateD
01-21-2013, 09:47 PM
The Phoebus sounded like the king gaming sound card when it was announced, but ever since it's release, it hasn't looked anywhere near it.
Some got it working with little or no issues. Some have it working but with some issues or are willing to put up with whatever bugs they incure and have ways to work around it.

I gave it 8 months, now it's about 9 months since it's release, and it hasn't gotten any better in terms of fixing and releasing a proper driver to fix all the issues that this card seems to have. It's been 2 beta drivers since it's release in April/May.

For an ASUS ROG product this certainly to me hasn't lived up to the ROG name which is very disappointing. It seems like ASUS maybe at CMedia's mercy interms of driver support and fixes, but again for a premium priced sound card I'd expect better driver support and to be honest just a better means of compatibility and testing before the card's released. Maybe that's why the ROG RAIDR SSD PCI-E card is taking it's sweet time being released so it doesn't fall in footsteps of the Phoebus.

What I don't get is why? The Xonar cards had such good reviews before with the ST/STX, DG, DGX, etc... all their sound cards we're great. They announce the first ROG Xonar sound card which made really great hype and interest and when the card is released, it has all sorts of issues in terms of drivers and driver support. What got me was, I was willing to drop the money on the card as soon as I saw one at my local shop, but I didn't pull the trigger as I had some unexpected expenses come up which seemed to have been a blessing in disguise as it delayed me enough to read all the driver issues it had with BF3/Punkbuster and other issues people we're having. I almost wished they had just re-released the D2X card with a headphone amp with the break out unit, and I would have had my perfect sound card.

If you're NOT willing to put up with the potential issues that of people are experiencing I would look at other sound cards or wait a little longer when they fix their drivers.

I gave up on the Phoebus, mainly because I recently found out that it doesn't support DTS which is something I need on a sound card as I do watch quite a lot of blu-ray movies on my computer. I would have gone with the STX but it has no 5.1 support on the STX. One solution would have been to get a STX, and the HDAV1.3 with a H6 but I don't have that many PCI-E slots open with 2x GTX Matrix 580s.

It only seems like there's one card that fits almost all my needs and it's not an ASUS solution which is sorta sad for me, since I love ASUS products and they've always come out with a great all in one solution or something so epic that full fills all the needs of a lot of enthusiasts.

KILLER_K
01-21-2013, 10:38 PM
I feel the same way. Asus really dropped the ball on this sound card. And the "ROG" tag should be removed from it. It just isn't worth the name tag that others expect a "ROG" product to be. Then add the price on top of it and lack of drivers and buggy software. You now have a almost useless creative lab sound card. Remember the days of the old creative labs drivers, etc.

What asus should do at this point is refund everyone that bought one and do a public apology on this mess of a sound card now. Expensive, lack of support and was just hyped up marketing. It is about the same as their $50 DGX, DSX sound cards. And the performance is about the same too.,

I see someone else is posting the [H] link that I always post in here. But I'm not getting into that discussion. If it was me and my money I would simply pass on this sound card. Either buy a Asus Xonar Essence STX or wait on the new creative labs sound cards.

Cageymaru
01-21-2013, 10:48 PM
Asus doesn't have drivers that are Win 8 64 compatible. So things like XBOX Live music app that is the default media player on my system don't work. Says it needs a codec to play mp3 or videos that play fine in Windows Media Player. The firmware is stuck at 1014 and won't flash. The card plays music fine until I unplug my headphones out of the break out box and back into again. Then it's random static until I restart my PC. Well it sounds exactly like the On / Off transition click that the card does except it does it every time I unplug my headphones and won't stop.

I got the card from Amazon and I'm going to give it until the 31st for Asus to come up with a solution. Then I'll just send it back if no resolution is provided. Now I'm just using my card with headphones so I don't know how it works with speakers. InnervateD I believe the card had DTS added in the last patch, but I can't tell you if it works as I can't flash the darn firmware to test it out. I tried every slot in my Asus Sabertooth 990FX and it scoffed at every attempt to get it to work.

skywalker311
01-22-2013, 01:19 AM
Thanks guy for let me know how you feel about the Phoebus . The vibe that I was getting is that either they work for you are they don't. InnervateD and KILLER_K have made great point. When I think about ROG I think of kickass products that going to be worth me spending a little extra and getting a great product. I know what I'm going with now and as much as I would love to have the Phoebus . I'm going with ASUS Xonar Essence STX. There are alot of good reviews on this this sound card. I'm still going to wait for a month before I order my sound card so I might still change my mind. The drivers for what I'm hearing is the problem. If they would just fix thoes drivers. If I was ASUS I would get on who ever ass they need to to get fix. If ASUS cant they need to send people a refund like KILLER_K was stating above. Do what right. It might cost you but you make up for in the long run. Word of mounth spreads fast. Back to my build. I'm having to order my parts one or two pieces at a time. I going with a complete water cooling setup this time. This is going to be my first water cooling computer and If I can ask any of you a question are two that would be great. Just PM me and I'll get back with you. Thanks for the post.

InnervateD
01-22-2013, 03:22 AM
Skywalker311:
I would look into the Creative Z series soundcards.
I know a lot of people like to bash Creative for their poor driver support in the past on their Xi-Fi cards, but I think Creative really did a great job with their Z series sound cards. There's a lot of good reviews on their new Z series cards and this is probably what you want to look at over the Phoebus unless you still want to stick with an ASUS solution.

If you want something close to the Pheobus you'll want to look at the Creative ZX which covers everything the Phoebus has.

The regular Z card is the same sound card as the ZX but without the break out unit.

The ZxR from Creative is Creative's top end sound card that rivals the Essence STX. The ZxR is the one I'm waiting for, as I have an order at my local shop for one. The ZxR is the real soundcard that I've been waiting for, and I can't wait when my store has it. The ZxR has everything the STX has to offer but gives the 5.1 and DTS that I want from a soundcard to watch my movies on my 5.1 Dolby Digital/DTS speakers, and still be able to give me high fidelity sound quality for my studio grade headphones.

cx-ray
01-22-2013, 07:01 AM
I don't use DTS but I have seen it in my (Phoebus) sound control panels. Is this what you're referring to?

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InnervateD
01-22-2013, 04:15 PM
I don't use DTS but I have seen it in my (Phoebus) sound control panels. Is this what you're referring to?

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Hmm Funny..
ON this link:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?12734-ASUS-Releases-The-ROG-Xonar-Phoebus-Gaming-Soundcard-Set/page2&highlight=phoebus


ASUS rep MarshallR@ASUS Wrote:


Originally Posted by umurBEY
Do not have DTS Connect or DDlive? DTS Neo, Dolby Prologic etc. Do you have properties. Or it would be pity. :mad:


No, only Dolby Home Theatre v4
http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio...ebus/#overview (http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/ROG_Xonar_Phoebus/#overview)

These others are available on our normal Xonar range. The Phoebus is specifically tailored to gaming.

The Box on the Phoebus shows no support for DTS as it's not officially supported. Usually the DTS logo has to be on the box or at least under the product listing for support to be official. Either way Phoebus isn't for me. If they added the DTS functionality recently then awesome, but the card still remains a disappointment to me, and having done my research I've already settled on a card that I'm happy with.

Sakz
01-30-2013, 10:44 AM
I just got my Phoebus last week. Paired with AKG K240 STUDIO for headset and a SONY (don't remember the model, at office atm) wired by Spdif .

I have to say that i was terribly scared, reading the tons of problem guys here are having with this SD, and while i was waiting the delivery of the package, i started to panik (just a little bit eheh).

After a painless installation fo actual drivers (not the beta one) on my system, Win8 64B, i tested a lot of games (35 installed by Steam) and the only one that i had some problems, seems to be (and too sadly it's my fav game ) Skyrim.

As i ride my horse i can hear the cloppity-cloppity thingie for 2/3 seconds than seems i just ride on a soft cotton rug, all enviromental sounds (nature, wild animals, waterfalls and music) are clear and VERY crisp, with a beautiful sorround as i turn my head around.
Or as i shot arrow, some of them has horrible lag and hit target after 2 / 3 seconds...but maybe it's not due to Phoebus..really dont know.

Before the Phoebus i had an integrated SC and never had any issue....

Tested on movies (DVD and Blue Ray) and music (mp3 and original CD's) and i have to say the sound is rich and basses are deep and warm, equalization do it's dirty job :)

No hiss or whatever in Teamspeak3 while i play BF3, all sounds by the game are very immersive and Phoebus shot outside by its circuits very nice and clear explosions and gunshots..it's a pleasure for my ears ( not for my wife, if i don't wear headphones ehehe).

My actual satisfaction with this card it's a 8/10, only due to those problems in Skyrim.

Let's say that i am like 100% of brothers users here, waiting for Asus to release final and stable drivers (and hope soooon).

Ciao :)

cx-ray
01-30-2013, 01:43 PM
I agree the channel separation/imaging and sound detail is excellent in the Phoebus. I run W7-64bit. I don't know if the latest Beta will screw up your system. However, 3.08 has good improvements. The hadphone sound amp maintains its settings after reboots and shutdown. Also, 7.1 simulation through Xear Headphone works well for gaming. It maintains good dynamic range. In comparision CMSS-3D from Creative sounds very muddy (had Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS, X-Fi Titanium, X-Fi Titanium HD).

Tassy
02-06-2013, 11:26 AM
They sound great, but if you want to sue Ventrillo at same time as gaming. Forget it. Everything you hear in tyjhe game plays into Vent. making it impossible to put up with or use.
AEC for some reason is installed on the realtek on-board sound for the Maximus formula, but not in a top of line card that costs nearly $300 :(...
If it worked with vent, I would say grab it, but if you use coms, forget it.

Zerid
02-14-2013, 03:40 AM
I use my Pheobus with my Razor Tiamat 7.1 and it sounds awesome. I'm currently using the beta driver, I've never had any problems with the driver, the card or with the install. All I did was adjust my settings to where I liked it any everything was all good.

Zerid
02-14-2013, 03:43 AM
They sound great, but if you want to sue Ventrillo at same time as gaming. Forget it. Everything you hear in tyjhe game plays into Vent. making it impossible to put up with or use.
AEC for some reason is installed on the realtek on-board sound for the Maximus formula, but not in a top of line card that costs nearly $300 :(...
If it worked with vent, I would say grab it, but if you use coms, forget it.

I use Vent and play games with the card and I don't have that issue

Tassy
02-15-2013, 12:51 PM
I use Vent and play games with the card and I don't have that issue
I don't either if I use onboard sound, but with Phoebus instantly it starts streaming everything I hear in my headphones.