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th2pun1sh3r
01-28-2013, 08:02 AM
Hey Guys- I have one of the g75vw's that didnt come with the 120hz monitor + 3d and I was wondering if anyone can say for sure...

Can this laptop output 120hz to an external monitor that is capable of that for gaming.

Also would I need to use display port, Hdmi, ?

finally, does anyone here have any reccomendations for a 120hz monitor to use with this laptop? ( I wanted to dual monitor it for streaming and such- would that be a problem on teh 670m? )


Thanks!


I already read through the sticky thread about questions and it was somewhat unclear to me.

Drqaisar411
01-28-2013, 08:49 AM
Hey Guys- I have one of the g75vw's that didnt come with the 120hz monitor + 3d and I was wondering if anyone can say for sure...

Can this laptop output 120hz to an external monitor that is capable of that for gaming.

Also would I need to use display port, Hdmi, ?

finally, does anyone here have any reccomendations for a 120hz monitor to use with this laptop? ( I wanted to dual monitor it for streaming and such- would that be a problem on teh 670m? )


Thanks!


I already read through the sticky thread about questions and it was somewhat unclear to me.


Afaik the monitor/tv refresh rate (hz) is not cpu/gpu dependant. So u will be safe if you will use it even with so called 800Hz tv. To watch flicker free 3d monitor/tv should have minimum of 120hz because with acive shutter 3d each eye will see half of those Hertz and will be basically smooth to eye. Hdmi will work great with tvs because it carries both audio and video signal. I think there is no dvi option in this laptop but vga which is significantly lower in quality comparing to hdmi, that is my personal opinion. 670mx is capable of 3d, so it will work with any 3d ready tv/monitor. I am personally looking for samsung 3d tv with wifi capability, perhaps its possible to connect laptop with tv via wifi, that would be great. There are existing samsung tvs with wifi adaptor insatalled in them. More opinions/suggestions guys :)

Tomislav
01-28-2013, 08:54 AM
Yes you can use an external 120 Hz monitor that is capable for 3D. You gonna need 3D glasses too, You can use display port or HDMI. I wouldn't recommend using VGA ( I think that it actually VGA wouldn't work) As for monitor recommendations,I'm really not into 3D gaming so I can't tell(though I know that ASUS has a new 144 Hz model,maybe you should check that out). When you say "dual monitor it " do you mean adding extra two monitors or just the laptop screen and one monitor?Either way I've been using it with an external monitor (over thunderbolt/display port)and it works just fine I think adding a second monitor shouldn't be much of a problem for the GPU but I didn't try it yet.

Tomislav
01-28-2013, 09:00 AM
I'm not sure you can connect wi-fi TV to a laptop in order to use the TV as external display,for work and gaming. I have a Samsung Smart TV at home ( doesn't have wi fi but has Ethernet ) and I can only use it if I want to stream movies or photos to it with the All share app. Though I can be mistaken,be sure to check that out.

th2pun1sh3r
01-28-2013, 09:19 AM
Yeah for dual monitor I plan to use the 120hz as a primary and the laptop at 60hz as a secondary right beside it. So this will work at 120hz just using HDMI>HDMI connection and some configuration in the nvidia panel correct? Thank you for response!

Tomislav
01-28-2013, 09:46 AM
Yeah should be fine. If you plan to use it in games that support 3D I think you'll have to make the adjustments inside the game itself.

th2pun1sh3r
01-31-2013, 11:03 PM
Tried Hdmi. Doesn't work. Also tried a non active DP > DVI single link (also doesnt work). Hopefully the display port to mini display port adapter does the trick

th2pun1sh3r
02-01-2013, 07:13 AM
anyone know anything about this? lol

Dreamonic
02-01-2013, 07:39 AM
Hey Guys- I have one of the g75vw's that didnt come with the 120hz monitor + 3d and I was wondering if anyone can say for sure...

Can this laptop output 120hz to an external monitor that is capable of that for gaming.

Also would I need to use display port, Hdmi, ?

finally, does anyone here have any reccomendations for a 120hz monitor to use with this laptop? ( I wanted to dual monitor it for streaming and such- would that be a problem on teh 670m? )


Thanks!


I already read through the sticky thread about questions and it was somewhat unclear to me.


Yup. HDMI. Make sure you are using a high-speed HDMI cable (some prefer to call it 1.4a) and most 3DTV's are compliant.

You'll need to enable 3D and choose the display to run on; 3DTV, laptop screen (if supported) ..etc
like it illustrates in this picture. You choose "3D Vision Discover" because you want to output it to another display via HDMI.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11150&d=1345901180

When you hook up multiple displays either via HDMI or VGA, DisplayPort you'll be able to choose the 3DTV/TV/Monitor as your primary display and set the laptop screen as your secondary similarly as what you might see here:

http://images.pcworld.com/images/article/2012/07/nvidia-11389066.jpg

When hooking up via HDMI, make sure your 3DTV input is also set to HDMI. They should then pair up and you'll notice both displays working. Then all you do is change some settings like what is shown above and you're set.

If your displays don't show anything, you will have to go under "set up multiple displays" under NVIDIA Control Panel and enable the display that isn't. It some cases, when you try to set up multiple displays, it will find and see it but doesn't take action as to what you want it to default to. In other words, user input is required. By default it should clone your primary display on your second one.

That's it.

Tomislav
02-01-2013, 11:04 AM
yup what dreamonic said is the way to do it. HDMI 1.4 + set your 3D monitor/TV as a main display.What games are you trying to play ?Be sure to check do they support stereoscopic 3D.

th2pun1sh3r
02-02-2013, 07:43 PM
Well the thing is im not trying to do 3d per say. Just trying to get 120hz on the external benQ monitor from the g75vw card. Is this still possible over the new HDM?

ZeroBarrier
02-02-2013, 09:53 PM
The GPU has nothing to do with whether your monitor can display 120Hz; that's completely dependent of your monitor. What I think you're problem is, is that you are trying to watch both the 60Hz notebook monitor and the 120Hz external display at the same time; and I'm pretty sure the GPU can't display in both 60Hz and 120Hz simultaneously.

Do a test and set the GPU to only display through external monitor; you should be able to then change the refresh rate on the external monitor to 120Hz.

th2pun1sh3r
02-03-2013, 01:33 AM
Thanks. I will try this out with display port

ZeroBarrier
02-03-2013, 01:55 AM
Thanks. I will try this out with display port

Regardless of what port you use to connect your external display, the GPU will be unable to display both 120Hz & 60Hz at the same time. For you to be able to display your external displayat 120Hz while keeping the the internal display on as extended or even mirrored, your notebook display has to be able to display 120Hz as well.

th2pun1sh3r
02-03-2013, 07:27 AM
I dont mind just using the monitor at 120hz and having the notebook display off- what I was saying though. when I hooked it up with HDMI high speed. it wouldnt show 120hz on the 1920 1080 resolution (even though the monitor can obviously do it)

Dreamonic
02-03-2013, 08:49 AM
Regardless of what port you use to connect your external display, the GPU will be unable to display both 120Hz & 60Hz at the same time. For you to be able to display your external displayat 120Hz while keeping the the internal display on as extended or even mirrored, your notebook display has to be able to display 120Hz as well.

Not sure where you got those facts from, because it's incorrect.

You can run 120Hz and 60Hz on multiple displays simultaneously, just as you can 75Hz and 60Hz. It's no different than using 2 monitors that support different native resolutions/refresh rates from each other. They are independant.


The GPU has nothing to do with whether your monitor can display 120Hz; that's completely dependent of your monitor. Sort of... the GPU still has to have the ability to output to whatever rate the monitor supports.


I'm pretty sure the GPU can't display in both 60Hz and 120Hz simultaneously.
The graphics card drives what the monitor's support, not the other way around...

However, the problem is this..

Having 3D enabled does in fact enable it globally throughout connected displays. So his non-3D 60Hz display will have to be disabled and then re-enabled in order for his 120Hz 3D display to work correctly under 3D Vision with a secondary display. As of right now, there is a known driver bug according to NVIDIA about this type of setup, but many people have reported it working under these conditions.


I dont mind just using the monitor at 120hz and having the notebook display off- what I was saying though. when I hooked it up with HDMI high speed. it wouldnt show 120hz on the 1920 1080 resolution (even though the monitor can obviously do it)

*Note: HDMI will work up to 720p at 60Hz or 1080p at 24Hz // 1080p 24Hz per eye for 3D movies.

If you hook your HDMI (or mdp/dp) up and then go into NVIDIA's control panel, you should be able to set the 3DTV as your "primary" display/120Hz if it does not already default to it. Once the setting is accepted, set your secondary display (internal) to "Extend" afterwards. It has to be done in this order or it will not work.

This will allow normal non-3D function use of 120Hz/60Hz displays together until you want to play 3D (first time use only) then your secondary display must be disabled and then re-enabled under NVIDIA control panel. This is a temporary workaround fix until NVIDIA releases updated 3D Vision drivers.

th2pun1sh3r
02-03-2013, 10:30 AM
Still a bit confused. So I have to go into 3d to get 120hz to show up on the benQ ?

Dreamonic
02-03-2013, 10:38 AM
It will be under your display properties for that device.

http://support.cineform.com/attachments/token/kcqa0qtpik9bcpn/?name=NVIDIAControlPanel-MonitorRefreshRate-120hz.png

Something to know about Stereoscopic 3D w/HDMI.

HDMI is limited to 2560x1600 @ 60Hz - 2D (1920x1080 @ 24Hz - 3D) or 1280x720 @ 60Hz (3D). You won't get true 120Hz @ 1080p with this laptop unless it is 3D-Ready; 3D-Capable you need a graphics card/display that supports it, using DL-DVI or DP for true 120Hz @ 1080p 60/60 eye 60+fps non-tearing capability; 120Hz 3DTV's makes things appear much more smoother by interpolating frames unless you are using a 120Hz LCD Monitor.

If you want to run multiple displays like 3DTV as main and your laptop screen as secondary, only 1 display can run at a time during 3D game/movie use. When you are done with 3D, you can then enable your secondary display and use it for gaming/web purposes like you would any other multiple display setup would do.

http://3dvision-blog.com/1731-hdmi-1-4a-specifications-with-updated-stereoscopic-3d-support/
(http://3dvision-blog.com/1731-hdmi-1-4a-specifications-with-updated-stereoscopic-3d-support/)
What I am saying is 3D games will be limited to 60fps @ 720p and 24fps @ 1080p.

Originally, you wanted to know if multiple displays could be used together so you have one for 3D gaming or non-3D gaming use and another for viewing web content, despite the differences in both displays.

I also included for your own curiosity sake, additional notes regarding further steps if 3D with another display is to be used, as well as the limitations that come with them.

I have answered all of this to the best of my abilities...

th2pun1sh3r
02-03-2013, 11:32 AM
so I can still get 120hz over display port right. for 2d?

Dreamonic
02-03-2013, 11:38 AM
Yes, 120Hz works over DisplayPort (3D as well as 2D) just not HDMI.

All TV's are 60hz (if TV is used) and uses motion interpolation -120Hz is the internal refresh rate of the panel, not the incoming signal.

It all can be very confusing when purchasing products comes to how marketing these products go.

th2pun1sh3r
02-03-2013, 11:46 AM
ok. cool. I was just worried g75vw wouldnt be able to output 120hz onto external monitor at 1920 1080

Dreamonic
02-03-2013, 11:48 AM
As long as you are using (in our laptop) the DisplayPort to do it, it will work.

th2pun1sh3r
02-03-2013, 12:23 PM
Yeah its going from mini display port in the asus laptop to the display port in the benq xl2420t

th2pun1sh3r
02-04-2013, 08:41 AM
I will report back on this today. Display port to Mini Dp cable is coming today :P

Drqaisar411
02-04-2013, 11:52 AM
I am not sure it would help but there is a piece of software by Nvidia called 3DTV play, you can download the trial version for testing. This software is specifically for output from your 3d enable laptop to 3dtv via hdmi. You still will need somesort of software to play Blu-ray 3D from your lappy eg. CyberLink/ArcSoft.

th2pun1sh3r
02-04-2013, 12:25 PM
haha all I want is the 120hz for games like League and Sc2

Tomislav
02-04-2013, 02:06 PM
I think that dreamonic deserves some rep for his post about 120 hz monitors. I'm not into 3D monitors and I learned a bunch of stuff. rep well earned bro!

th2pun1sh3r
02-04-2013, 02:34 PM
Yeah if this all works today im gonna rep him lol

th2pun1sh3r
02-04-2013, 08:35 PM
Ok I got the cable. problem is. its still showing 60hz.. What am I doing wrong?

Dreamonic
02-04-2013, 08:53 PM
Is your monitor type showing "Generic PnP Monitor" under windows? Because if it is that would be why.

If your monitor came with a disc, the driver is probably there. Sometimes Windows Updates downloads these as well, so do a check there too.

If none of these work, you might need to make a custom resolution in NVIDIA Control Panel with 120Hz, use this one as a last option so you know if the other methods work or not.

http://cdn.overclock.net/9/95/95ea0d18_Untitled.png

th2pun1sh3r
02-04-2013, 09:17 PM
gonna try this now. BTW dream do you have skype?

th2pun1sh3r
02-04-2013, 09:20 PM
It works!!!! you are the BEST MAN.. 120 HZ WOOO SOO SMOOOTH. TY!!!!

Dreamonic
02-04-2013, 09:33 PM
gonna try this now. BTW dream do you have skype?

No, I don't.


It works!!!! you are the BEST MAN.. 120 HZ WOOO SOO SMOOOTH. TY!!!!

In the end no matter how long something takes, if you make it to your destination, then it was all for everything; Welcome.

jleung
03-10-2013, 08:08 AM
hello, i was wondering the same thing, i bought the asus g75v and since the mini display port works for the benq 120hz, i was wondering if the new ASUS VG248QE which also has a display port work with the 144hz for my laptop, i have the gtx670m on it.

Pitcher@asus
03-11-2013, 03:17 AM
i think it is able to use, all of the asus product.

jleung
03-13-2013, 07:51 AM
Thanks i guess ill just try it when it gets here

Tomislav
03-13-2013, 07:28 PM
I'm not sure if the vw has a 1.4a hdmi, but vx has one so you can use that too, just get yourself a cable that is good enough to support it. Mini dp to Dp shoud work to (but good cable rule still applies).

tgamer007
05-08-2013, 06:26 PM
Has anyone tested the g75's mini display port to a display port on an ASUS VG248QE . I am trying to decide if I want to purchase it merely for that....

gamer_republican
04-28-2014, 03:54 PM
Hi all, I've been trying to get my G750 (non 3D version) to work on a 3D ACER monitor. HDMI 1.4 doesn't work, mini display port to DVI doesn't work. The only thing that works is a mini display port to DUAL DVI, which costs about $100 or more (Argh!!!).

I got it running on full HD 144 hz with NVIDIA 3D Vision 2 and I must say, it's worth the hassle, the money and everything (everybody) else you'll neglect once you start playing. Portal 2 is soooo cool, it's a completely different experience in 3D. These rooms go on forever!

PadiG75VX
05-03-2014, 09:55 PM
Has anyone tested the g75's mini display port to a display port on an ASUS VG248QE . I am trying to decide if I want to purchase it merely for that....


Yes, works great at 144HZ

culzone
08-05-2014, 07:04 PM
Hey, I use Acer Predator GN246HLB 144hz screen and G750 laptop how do I connect to get the 120+ hz? :)

cl-Albert
08-06-2014, 04:48 PM
Hey, I use Acer Predator GN246HLB 144hz screen and G750 laptop how do I connect to get the 120+ hz? :)

fyi.
If you didn't already know, the G75 and G750 are different notebook series, so you may also want to post your question in the G750 section below to get answers from other G750 owners and include the full G750 model name as well.
http://rog.asus.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?157-G750-GX550-G550-and-G56-Gaming-Notebooks

Thanks and Good luck!