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ootld999
01-28-2013, 09:33 PM
Ok, im getting quite aggravated by this problem. Ive had the laptop for a couple of weeks now and the only 3 things ive been able to play are Unmechanical, Halflife Black Mesa and Windows Solitaire (not that this one counts for anything).
It seems that most 3d apps just dont work, and i cant pinpoint the problem, because it could either be the Win8 or the nvidia drivers.

I tried all current versions of nvidia drivers:
1. both versions from the g75vx page on asus
2. 310.83 x64 win8 from asus (not on g75vx page)
3. 310.90 x64 win8 from nvidia

I tried all compatibility modes, from win xp to win7.

The results i got so far is that some combinations of those 2 last either until i close
the game (if it works on the 1st try; rare, happened twice) or after a few seconds in the game.
The end result is that the screen is black and the laptop is not responding to anything,
not even ctrl-alt-del.
I've had to do a hard reset each time (and i'm not really happy about that).

"The game" here refers to any from the following list:
1. Quantum Conundrum
2. Twin sector
3. Fly'n
4. Deadlight
This list will probably grow until i get a way to make these work on my machine.
I have, however, managed to get Twin Sector, Fly'n and Deadlight to work in a Win7 virtual machine (deadlight crashes at
some point though). Obviously they can't get full detail because they don't see the actual nvidia video, just the VM one.

If anyone tried or is running any of those games, please post a comment. Any help appreciated.

ootld999
01-28-2013, 09:35 PM
Update
While writing this ive managed to get Quantum Conundrum to work by running in windowed mode.
And after running sfc /checknow, thought i dont think it had something to do with it.

If i try fullscreen, it still freezes in a black screen and i need to hard reset.
I'm gonna try the other games (after i get the time to reinstall). See if they work in windowed mode.

Apexing
01-28-2013, 10:17 PM
When you say 3D apps, do you mean playing these games in 3D mode ?
if that is not what you mean, I expect you mean games that require proper use of the graphic card, could you try and run a benchmarking program, see if it also causes the blackscreen of doom?

If it does, I think you have a faulty graphic card, and should either send it for repairs while you still have warrenty, or RMA it.
I sadly dont have any of the games you list, so I cant test them, Im also on win8, and so far any games i throw at the laptop all run fine, talking about guildwars 2, the new hitman game, starcraft 2, planetside and many more.

ootld999
01-29-2013, 12:20 AM
3d apps means directx or opengl 3d, not 3d monitor. My g75vx doesnt have a 3d monitor.
I dont think the video card has a problem, because HL BlackMesa and Unmechanical worked both in fullscreen and never did go into the black screen problem.
I also ran some benchmarks from ozone3d: furmark, shadertoys mark, and 2 others. All in fullscreen, didnt have a problem.
The games i ran in VM, also ran in fullscreen.

It is that specific list of games that i can't run in native win8 (i.e. no virtualization).
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I just managed to get Deadlight to run in windowed mode after 3 more hard resets. It runs fine in windowed mode 32bit/dx9, fullscreen freezes in black (and i can hear the laptop fans slowing down; i assume it's because the video card isnt used)

ootld999
01-29-2013, 12:28 AM
What's weirder, is that for both apps that run ok in windowed and freeze in fullscreen, i can see a win7-like border in windowed mode.
I'm also getting the idea that the other 2 games that did run in fullscreen ok were running in opengl, as opposed to dx9 and dx11.
Here's a screenshot with deadlight windowed
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I'm gonna check tomorrow whether my guess about opengl was right. (As a sidenote, i do game dev and am quite familiar with opengl and directx api; i already tested an opengl app i made, i should also test a directx app to see if the fullscreen problem appears)

ootld999
01-29-2013, 01:11 AM
It's 3am here and i have work tomorrow, but i couldnt sleep until i had tested the opengl theory.
It seems that dx9 and dx11 apps work ok in fullscreen.
However, 3dmark11 fails when starting demo and 3dmark06 fails at the splash screen when detecting hardware. The 'fail' consists in everything freezing (not even the mouse moves). So my guess is that this is the same problem as with the black screen, only that here it doesnt have time to draw that black screen before freezing.
Again, there's nothing i can do (no key/mouse input) besides hard reset.

I guess now would be a good time for an ASUS rep opinion.

Pitcher@asus
01-29-2013, 06:11 AM
if 3D mark test fail, i think you will send back to ASUS to test.

srmojuze
01-29-2013, 12:59 PM
It's 3am here and i have work tomorrow, but i couldnt sleep until i had tested the opengl theory.
It seems that dx9 and dx11 apps work ok in fullscreen.
However, 3dmark11 fails when starting demo and 3dmark06 fails at the splash screen when detecting hardware. The 'fail' consists in everything freezing (not even the mouse moves). So my guess is that this is the same problem as with the black screen, only that here it doesnt have time to draw that black screen before freezing.
Again, there's nothing i can do (no key/mouse input) besides hard reset.

I guess now would be a good time for an ASUS rep opinion.

Have you made sure you CPU is set to 100% all the time in Power Options?

ootld999
01-29-2013, 07:55 PM
Power options is set on Power4Gear High performance.
I'll now try to uninstall some software and see if i can get 3dmark11 to work. I will continue until i get to a barebone win8, i have made a backup of the initial partition. If that doesn't work i guess i'll have to call ASUS local rep.

ootld999
01-29-2013, 09:23 PM
Ok, I did a full win8 reset and everything is back to factory defaults. Installed 3dmark11, 3dmark06. They both exhibit the same behavior, freeze everything (including mouse) when I try to run the demo mode.
I'll be waiting until tomorrow for any replies from any ASUS rep, otherwise I'll just be going with the default action and RMA.

LE. To be more precise, 3dmark11 freezes after I click on the run button, 3dmark06 freezes at splash screen.

dstrakele
01-29-2013, 10:00 PM
You are the only one I can recall reporting 3dMark freezes in this forum . However, reports of similar issues in other forums (such as http://support.futuremark.com/futuremark/topics/3dmark_11_problems_trying_to_run_it can be found. It could easily be a recent problem with the benchmark program on Windows 8.

You might try entering the BIOS and choosing to restore defaults, then Save & Exit OR try a different BIOS (either upgrading or downgrading) to attempt resolution.

But be aware these actions (even a simple restore BIOS defaults) have led some users to report their laptops were 'bricked' when running certain BIOS versions. But you'll most likely need to try and exchange your laptop at your retailer's or RMA it for Warranty repair anyway if you wish to resolve the problem.

tkolarik
01-30-2013, 05:41 AM
I rolled back to Windows 7 strictly for game compatibility. I like the little bit of speed increase i got and I was really getting used to the interface.

ootld999
01-30-2013, 09:45 AM
Thanks for the link dstrakele, I'm gonna try the futuremark workaround after i get back from work tonight. Otherwise, I'll have to go with the BIOS upgrade and RMA if needed.
The thing I'm concerned about though is that 3dmark* aren't the only things not working. And i have a very distinct feeling that it has something to do with directx/fullscreen mode. [I noticed this problem with a busted old video card in a desktop machine, my guess is that directx moves the memory differently than opengl on the video card].
If i get 3dmark11 to work I'll try Deadlight on fullscreen mode (as i said it already works in windowed mode; uses dx9)

Spinal
01-30-2013, 10:43 PM
Hi,
No pb so far under Windows 8 64bit and Asus G75VX with 307.07 or 310.83 asus (nvidia) driver.

ootld999
02-02-2013, 12:18 PM
So update time. The games i listed in 1st post still dont work under win8. However they do work in fullscreen on the Win7 setup i just did.
That means that it should be an OS related issue.

I'm going to keep this list updated. If there's anyone that will try to run these (specific) games on win8 x64 and they do work, I'll then be inclined to believe that this happens only on my laptop.

gAz
02-06-2013, 07:16 PM
So update time. The games i listed in 1st post still dont work under win8. However they do work in fullscreen on the Win7 setup i just did.
That means that it should be an OS related issue.

I'm going to keep this list updated. If there's anyone that will try to run these (specific) games on win8 x64 and they do work, I'll then be inclined to believe that this happens only on my laptop.

Hi,
i tried Deadlight and Quantum Conundrum on my G75vx, Win8 x64, Asus Nvidia Drivers (wasnt able to install the newer ones from NVidia Site, even with turning of Driver Signing), and they run without Problems.