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Statix72
02-01-2013, 11:09 PM
Just purchased a G75VW-TH72 laptop about 1.5 weeks ago. I like the build quality and look of the machine but the documentation is a joke. The drivers are also a joke. I can't believe there are threads on this forum discussing how to set an equalizer to get "optimal" sound quality out of this laptop. This laptop has shameful speakers, shameful. No matter what your equalizer is set to, which guide you follow, it will never sound as good as any competitor laptop. Period. The screen is also a disappointment. Reading reviews I expected more. The screen door effect and white balance/washout leaves me wanting to continue using my older Dell XPS 17. The screen on that is seriously better than this. The Splendid display utility is useless. The Nvidia display settings can improve the image to be sure but they don't seem to stick when navigating through apps/programs, Start screen etc. You have to keep going back and re-applying. Annoying.
Ultimately the amount of tinkering to get this laptop to perform how it can/should seems ridiculous. Specific touchpad drivers to gain extra options such as disabling reverse-scrolling, specific sound drivers to provide better sound (better is relative here cuz these speakers will never sound "good"), all Asus utlities - worthless.

I seriously wanted to like/love this laptop. I really did. I've been a long time Asus fan, at least of their hardware. Their support or sales info has never been what a company like Dell could offer, even with it moved to India. Hell I'd take Indian support all day long over what Asus provides.

Unfortunately this laptop will probably only be in my possession for 6 months - 1 year before I sell it and move on to something better. In that time I'll be on these forums looking for the answer to my question of the day because I know Asus won't provide it, it will be other users.

dstrakele
02-01-2013, 11:18 PM
The retailer won't let you return the laptop for a refund minus a restocking fee?

Statix72
02-01-2013, 11:37 PM
Sure they will, minus 15%. To be clear, there is enough to like about this laptop to not send it back such as dual HDD bays, the proc/ram/video card, keyboard, price. But really as probably most on these forums know, there isn't much competition in the $1400 -$1500 17" gaming notebook range with these specs. The few companies that can touch this price point with these specs all have problems too (MSI or Maingear would be 2 that come to mind). I will keep the laptop as I said for a while, it's got good specs on it. It's resellable too. I'll just be looking out for a killer deal on an Alienware or the next gen model of the Samsung (both have/will have superior screens). When that comes along, this goes. And that's a shame because I wanted to like it.

Feud
02-02-2013, 12:21 AM
Considering the standard screen used on the G75VW has a 97% color gamut, how can you say its bad? Sure its a TN panel, but really only effects the viewing angles seeing as the color gamut is quite good. My GTX 660M runs fine, and the Nvidia drivers function properly as well. I'm currently running a Dell Ultrasharp alongside the Laptops screen. The Audio I will admit leaves something to be desired, but I simply use my 7.1 Headset or use an external sound card. Overall, I've found no laptop has a perfect balance of features but this Asus has more pro's than con's in the end. The dual drive bays, i7 and GTX 660M, 670M GPU's, 4 DIMM's, Backlit keyboard.. I could go on.

Statix72
02-02-2013, 01:32 AM
I agree there is no 17" gaming laptop that has the perfect featureset because even when you do find it, you'll pay through the nose for it (Eurocom, high-end Alienware, Origin etc). The screen, listen all I can say is that I have a 1.5 year old Dell XPS 17 sitting next to it. There is no comparison. I think as technology marches on you just expect incrementally better things, such as screen clarity, color saturation, etc. The resolutions in these are identical. The Dell, you see the colors, clarity, crispness. The Asus you can actually see the itty bitty little black boxes that make up the overall screen image. The colors are good yes but the brightness/contrast is too high to where whites wash everything out. And no, turning the brightness down doesn't fix the problem, the darks are then to dark and you lose shadow detail. The screen is ok at best. Just not what I wished for/expected.

With this said there are more pro's than con's it's the little things Asus doesn't get right. Imagine if they did, one hell of a laptop for the money.

Area 66
02-02-2013, 01:37 AM
For the sound just get a nice headphone, you will never found a lappy with good speaker, it's dam too small.

Feud
02-02-2013, 01:42 AM
I agree there is no 17" gaming laptop that has the perfect featureset because even when you do find it, you'll pay through the nose for it (Eurocom, high-end Alienware, Origin etc). The screen, listen all I can say is that I have a 1.5 year old Dell XPS 17 sitting next to it. There is no comparison. I think as technology marches on you just expect incrementally better things, such as screen clarity, color saturation, etc. The resolutions in these are identical. The Dell, you see the colors, clarity, crispness. The Asus you can actually see the itty bitty little black boxes that make up the overall screen image. The colors are good yes but the brightness/contrast is too high to where whites wash everything out. And no, turning the brightness down doesn't fix the problem, the darks are then to dark and you lose shadow detail. The screen is ok at best. Just not what I wished for/expected.

With this said there are more pro's than con's it's the little things Asus doesn't get right. Imagine if they did, one hell of a laptop for the money.

Even when you pay an arm and a leg for a laptop they always fall short in comparison. In the end I've come to realize that you have to trade certain things on any laptop for others and that its a sacrificial type deal when it comes to features. For the price, the Asus offers some nice features overall and I do admit the VIA sound on the G75VW is atrocious but I've never come to expect much when dealing with integrated audio which is why I run external sources of audio. The black boxes I'm honestly not quite sure what you're referring too... That might be an actual issue with your screen rather than an overall fault because I don't see those black boxes at all even when watching a movie or gaming with maximum brightness. I also don't get excessive backlight bleeding that you'd come to expect on most TN panels.

Compared to my Dell Ultrasharp LCD I have next to it.. the LED screen on my G75VW looks crisper and provides more vibrant whites which is surprising seeing as the Ultrasharp is an IPS Panel.

Tomislav
02-02-2013, 02:04 AM
feud, what kind of dell ultrasharp you use? Because I have a semi old 2209wa and colors look much much better on it. Btw when you say 97 % color gamut, do you mean s RGB coverage is 97 % ? How did you get this info? Did you you use a colorimeter such as SpiderPro or ColorMunki ?

Screen is fine actually a bit better than the average laptop but far from great I would say it's sufficient and it serves it purpouse very well but for aany semi pro use (like photography/graphic design ) is not nearly good enough. Btw why is every one complaining about the sound. I never heard better sound on a laptop ( ok but I never tried Alienware and stuff like that). Sounds fine, it's loud if you want good quality sound you'll gonna need to buy a good head set or speakers. So that's it.

Feud
02-02-2013, 02:13 AM
feud, what kind of dell ultrasharp you use? Because I have a semi old 2209wa and colors look much much better on it. Btw when you say 97 % color gamut, do you mean s RGB coverage is 97 % ? How did you get this info? Did you you use a colorimeter such as SpiderPro or ColorMunki ?

Screen is fine actually a bit better than the average laptop but far from great I would say it's sufficient and it serves it purpouse very well but for aany semi pro use (like photography/graphic design ) is not nearly good enough. Btw why is every one complaining about the sound. I never heard better sound on a laptop ( ok but I never tried Alienware and stuff like that). Sounds fine, it's loud if you want good quality sound you'll gonna need to buy a good head set or speakers. So that's it.


Here's a link (http://www.slrlounge.com/retina-ips-vs-fhd-led-calibration-apple-mbp-15-retina-vs-asus-g75vw-ds73-monitor-calibration-results) to a comparison to an Apple Retina Display. Yeah sorry I did mean RGB Coverage.

I'm currently using a U2411 as a comparison. I think people complain about the sound because the subwoofer has always been a major cause of problems while Asus and VIA have been dragging their feet to provide working drivers. Previously it was the subwoofer still outputting audio with headphones plugged into the audio jack, and now the subwoofer really has poor bass and doesn't scale properly with the tweeters. It's not a bad system, it just requires proper drivers to function correctly.

GottiBoi55
02-02-2013, 02:48 AM
I agree there is no 17" gaming laptop that has the perfect featureset because even when you do find it, you'll pay through the nose for it (Eurocom, high-end Alienware, Origin etc). The screen, listen all I can say is that I have a 1.5 year old Dell XPS 17 sitting next to it. There is no comparison. I think as technology marches on you just expect incrementally better things, such as screen clarity, color saturation, etc. The resolutions in these are identical. The Dell, you see the colors, clarity, crispness. The Asus you can actually see the itty bitty little black boxes that make up the overall screen image. The colors are good yes but the brightness/contrast is too high to where whites wash everything out. And no, turning the brightness down doesn't fix the problem, the darks are then to dark and you lose shadow detail. The screen is ok at best. Just not what I wished for/expected.

With this said there are more pro's than con's it's the little things Asus doesn't get right. Imagine if they did, one hell of a laptop for the money.



Well, for me the screen is not bad!
I have the "DVE HD Basics" calibration Blu-ray disc.
I ran the disc, and all I needed to do is below

Go to the nVidia control panel.
Go to adjust video color settings section.
1. turn down the contrast to 43
2. Go to the advanced tab set dynamic range to Full (0-255)
3. uncheck the box next to dynamic contrast enhancement
4. uncheck the box next to color enhancement
5. click apply

The color saturation, and hue was fine when using the filters for checking the calibration for both, didn't need any adjustment there.
The desktop colors are not bad, that's after you uninstall the splendid utility crap! (so didn't adjust anything there!)

This greatly improves the picture IMHO.

Now for the speakers, I have to agree, Asus should have done better in that area!
But I solved that problem with a set of "Altec Lansing" PC speakers, I paid only S25, but they sound like a $250 set compared to the stock crape!!!

tkolarik
02-02-2013, 03:49 AM
Even with headphones or speakers the audio is still pretty bad. A USB headset runs as a separate audio card, sounds much better. I use the Logitech H800 wireless WiFI or Bluetooth headset. Running bluetooth the is a slight lag but great for music, cellphone, iPad, etc. Running games and videos, lag is unacceptable so I use wifi then. $65 on Amazon.

Feud
02-02-2013, 03:56 AM
Even with headphones or speakers the audio is still pretty bad. A USB headset runs as a separate audio card, sounds much better. I use the Logitech H800 wireless WiFI or Bluetooth headset. Running bluetooth the is a slight lag but great for music, cellphone, iPad, etc. Running games and videos, lag is unacceptable so I use wifi then. $65 on Amazon.


Yeah I use a pair of G930s with mine usually which sounds far better than the integrated audio lol

nItHz
02-02-2013, 06:05 AM
i have the same model. the screen has a small flickering when the brightness is low. other than that no pproblem. my sound system is working fine.

Statix72
02-02-2013, 01:29 PM
I'm going to have to find another model of this notebook on display at a local store to cross check its screen against the one I have. I don't think there's anything wrong with mine, it's just an average panel. With that said, I'd like to know if some models are better because then I would take this issue up with Asus.

AlexTheRepublican
02-02-2013, 01:49 PM
My 2013 G55 had those problems too but Via HD drivers work perfectly but there is still a "pock" sound when a sound is played. But yeah, dude get some cool headphones/headsets. ROG Headsets (http://www.asus.com/ROG/Vulcan_ANC/) and Sony headphones (http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666412405).

Clintlgm
02-02-2013, 02:29 PM
I think there are at least 3 different screens used on the G75, I have the HD 1080p non glare screen and I don't have any issues like you described.

GottiBoi55
02-02-2013, 04:28 PM
I think there are at least 3 different screens used on the G75, I have the HD 1080p non glare screen and I don't have any issues like you described.


Yeah I agree, I have the 1080p non 3D panel no problems.
Like I said before in this thread, all that was needed was a "contrast" adjustment.
My setting give me the best results IMHO!

Paulovrv
02-02-2013, 10:33 PM
Well, for me the screen is not bad!
I have the "DVE HD Basics" calibration Blu-ray disc.
I ran the disc, and all I needed to do is below

Go to the nVidia control panel.
Go to adjust video color settings section.
1. turn down the contrast to 43
2. Go to the advanced tab set dynamic range to Full (0-255)
3. uncheck the box next to dynamic contrast enhancement
4. uncheck the box next to color enhancement
5. click apply

The color saturation, and hue was fine when using the filters for checking the calibration for both, didn't need any adjustment there.
The desktop colors are not bad, that's after you uninstall the splendid utility crap! (so didn't adjust anything there!)

This greatly improves the picture IMHO.



This is a nice TIP!

GottiBoi55
02-03-2013, 05:12 AM
This is a nice TIP!

Thank you!
Did you try the settings?

Try the settings, then put in the blu-ray disc "The Dark Knight"
The opening of the movie, and some cut scenes are shoot in "IMAX" format.
IMAX is the highest resolution available these days, and the picture is amazing on this 1080p panel.
This Movie is a great test for this panel.
So try and see what you think!

Paulovrv
02-03-2013, 05:30 AM
Did you try the settings?

Yes, I did. It was very useful!
I thank you.:)

srmojuze
02-03-2013, 11:29 AM
I have to say, connecting my G55 optical audio out to Turtle Beach PX5, the sound is pretty amazing. Even normally on analog out to say, Sony Xperia earphones, I think it's very good.