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rewben
02-02-2013, 07:52 PM
QUICK GUIDES:
- Fresh Install of Win8 Pro Over Win8 On G55 (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?37450-Fresh-Install-of-Win8-Pro-Over-Win8-On-G55) (by @Ratspootin)
- CLEAN WINDOWS 8 INSTALL ON GPT SSD DRIVE (G75VX) (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?31733-Clean-Windows-8-install-on-GPT-SSD-drive-(G75VX)) (by @gokica)
- G75VX WINDOWS 7 CLEAN INSTALL (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?29983-Clean-Windows-7-on-Asus-G75VX-(Win8-pre-installed)) (by @bjurn)
- G75VX WINDOWS 8 CLEAN INSTALL (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?29809-G75VX-is-there-a-legal-way-to-backup-Windows-8&p=240258&viewfull=1#post240258) (by @cvmocanu)
- SSD: FIXING 4K CLUSTER MISALIGNMENT (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?30564-SSD-HDD-Alignment-made-wonders-for-me!) (by @DanishKid)
- Bypass key input in Windows 8 install, DVD (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?27923-GUIDE-Bypass-key-input-in-Windows-8-install) (by @BNaughty)
- [GUIDE] RAID-0 Dual-Boot WIndows and Linux (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?33168-GUIDE-RAID-0-Dual-Boot-WIndows-and-Linux) (by @BNaughty)

MY OTHER NOTES:
- Setup Planning Basics (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28758-GUIDE-G55-G75-Upgrade-Notes&p=220259&viewfull=1#post220259)
- Fresh Operating System Installs (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28758-GUIDE-G55-G75-Upgrade-Notes&p=224827&viewfull=1#post224827)
- G55/G75 BIOS (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28758-GUIDE-G55-G75-Upgrade-Notes&p=228694&viewfull=1#post228694)
- HOW TO INSTALL STOCK WINDOWS USING DISM AND INSTALL.WIM (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28758-GUIDE-G55-G75-Upgrade-Notes&p=341922&viewfull=1#post341922)
- HOW TO CREATE A SYSTEM IMAGE USING MICROSOFT WINDOWS POWERSHELL (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28758-GUIDE-G55-G75-Upgrade-Notes&p=400180&viewfull=1#post400180)
- G55 SSD RAID 0 NOTES (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28758-GUIDE-G55-G75-Upgrade-Notes&p=422245&viewfull=1#post422245)

after these few months of trying to help others resolve problems related to their laptops, i would like to add these for reference, so that hopefully it will serve the purpose to minimize the potential issues that we frequently met for the past months.

this guide is for those who are new to operating system upgrades/downgrades/fresh installs, and decide to take up the challenges by doing things themselves. however, please remember that the ROG community is the actual driving force behind all these. if you have a question, please ask.

for the impatient, you can always start by searching through the forum for similar threads to your questions. with google, you can type 'site:rog.asus.com your keywords' without quotes (e.g. site:rog.asus.com adding ram g75). if possible, please post in the same thread.

please also understand that for many of us who do this often, we have done the best (to our knowledge) to prevent the worst from happening. so i hope you can be as prepared as you can for the same reason. prevention is always better than cure.

Before You Begin

back up your system, but more importantly, data, before doing anything else (and make sure the backup actually works);
use a spare disk for testing;
if you must do this on a production system, see step 1.


Operating System Upgrades/Downgrades/Fresh Installs
again, before you do anything to your stock windows, please perform necessary steps to make sure you can recover from possible catastrophic outcomes:

1. make a full system and data backup:

for those with w7 preloaded - use AI Recovery (1.0.24 or later) to prepare the recovery disks (or you can use the below);
for those with w8 preloaded - use Macrium Reflect (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?26175-Help-with-Windows-8-transfer-on-G75&p=194143&viewfull=1#post194143) (download (http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx)), or the built-in windows file backup (backup and restore in w7) to create a system image. make sure these backups work by trying them out with a spare disk first. note that the built-in windows file backup can only be used on a drive that is equal or larger (although there is a way to make it work (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?26175-Help-with-Windows-8-transfer-on-G75&p=194123&viewfull=1#post194123), but let's stick to this first)
for g75vx owners - now you have the new tool called ASUS Backtracker. get it from the asus' support page (http://www.asus.com/supportonly/ASUS_Backtracker/#support_Download_36). you can follow the instructions to this here (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?40548-Backing-up-your-ASUS-factory-Win8-Recovery-Partition&p=342084&viewfull=1#post342084).


the above are options for system backup. most of us consider the second one because we can do a full system recovery to the working state with all the drivers and apps up to the point when the image was created. for data backup, always use external storage.

2. our systems allow us to run operating systems in BIOS and UEFI mode (one at a time; by default, they're running the OS in UEFI mode).

additionally, for machines with preloaded w8:
a) you can retrieve your w8 key with keyfinder (http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/) or Belarc Advisor (http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html);
b) your bios is locked to prevent installation of other OS. what you need to do first is to unlock them:
b.i) disable secure boot control and fast boot;
b.ii) enable launch csm.

3. my suggestion will always be a fresh install using usb (to me the usb route is more flexible and faster). that's the simplest thing to do to get rid of many things that are in the way. for w8, to create a usb stick is simple (assuming your usb stick is at x:\):
a) format a 8gb usb stick with FAT32;
b) copy all the contents in the windows 8 installation disk to x:\

as of the time of writing, the official downloads are opened to subscribers of MS TechNet (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/downloads/hh442904.aspx) and MSDN (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/downloads/default.aspx).

after you have download the ISO, make sure you verify its SHA1 checksum with the ones published at Microsoft websites (using free utilities such as HashCalc (http://www.slavasoft.com/hashcalc/index.htm)).

for machines with preloaded w8: if you have an untouched w8 ISO, there is nothing much you should do (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28632-Windows-8-Clean-Install&p=220484&viewfull=1#post220484). one of the potential and common problems is this: since your key is embedded in the bios, you will have problems if you used a w8 pro install disk. to overcome the issue:
a) convert it to allow w8 installation;
a.i) go to x:\sources and look for x:\sources\ei.cfg (if it's not there create it)
a.ii) open up ei.cfg with notepad and replace the content with the following:

[EditionID]
[Channel]
Retail
[VL]
0

or,


[EditionID]
[Channel]
OEM
[VL]
0

source: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh824952.aspx

b) put your w8 key in x:\sources\PID.txt (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28632-Windows-8-Clean-Install&p=219961&viewfull=1#post219961) (if it's not there create it), like this:

[PID]
Value=XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX

for w8 pro installation, just do b) should be good enough.

a better overview of a w8 clean install can be found here (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28632-Windows-8-Clean-Install).

the better way to perform OS install is to make sure only one disk (hdd/ssd, the target disk) is physically attached to the system. please detach additional ones to avoid 'accidents' (e.g. wipe your data disks instead of the actual target). also, if the boot order is already pointed to the target disk, use esc key to boot from installation media. there is no need to change the boot order every time.

The Drivers
i think the question of which drivers is to be installed first is solely of personal preferences. here i would like to highlight the minimal set to get your system up and running.

my preferred list with installation order is this:

Intel Chipset Driver
Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver
Intel USB 3.0 Driver (as of the time of writing, this is not working for w8, unless you use the hacked version (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28599-g75-usb-drivers&p=218511&viewfull=1#post218511))
Intel Management Engine Interface (you can leave this as Windows Update will install one for you)
NVidia GeForce Drivers (the first choice is always the latest one from geforce.com; choose the notebook version. if that failed, find the latest at ASUS)
Audio Driver
LAN Driver
WLAN Driver
Bluetooth Driver
Multi-Card Reader Driver
ATK Package (for ASUS-related drivers, this is the first one to be installed first, before the rest of them)
Touchpad Driver

rewben
02-02-2013, 09:19 PM
Setup Planning Basics

in this part i will try to give you some brief ideas on what i think is a better g-series (compared to stock machines).

in terms of better user experience, i suggest you do this:
1. OS drive - use SSD instead of HDD; this is where you put your OS, apps, and games that you play most;
2. Data drive - convert your stock HDD to data drive; this is where you store your files; you can also move some of the key folders and pagefile from C: to here, to free up space;
3. RAM disk (optional) - a small ram disk (2gb or more) can be used to boost up the performance. by pointing the system- and user-based temporary folders, scratch disks, and web cache to the RAM disk, you can move high read/write operations in such folders to it and thus reduce further write/erase cycles in your ssd. there are a number of free RAM disk apps for this purpose. here is how i set up mine (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28252-I-have-no-idea-what-to-do-with-16GB-of-RAM&p=216013&viewfull=1#post216013) using SoftPerfect RAMDisk (http://www.softperfect.com/products/ramdisk/).

if you still think there is not enough storage space for you, then if you do not use the DVD-ROM (most of us don't these days), just simply swap it with a compatible HDD caddy and put another HDD in. usually, a 12.7mm SATA-to-SATA HDD caddy is good enough for a g55/75; however, there might be variations of the connector as reported by some friends here, so you should double check the compatibility before purchase. to maximize compatibility, it's better to convert data drives to MBR disk.

for a g55/g75, we have 2 SATA 3 (6GB/s) ports (hdd bays; msata slot), and 1 SATA 2 (3GB/s) port (DVDROM drive). the layout that makes more sense is to use both SATA 3 for ssds, and hdd uses SATA 2.


now back to the topic of OS install. here i will focus on the fresh install of a single OS. the fact is that many of us have our own preferences. some of us prefer dual boots because each OS get raw throughputs from the underlying hardware; alternatively, you can use virtualization for this purpose (if you have w7/8 pro, there is a built-in feature that allows you to do that (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?24536-Windows-8-Preview-amp-Experience-Strategy-Without-Spending-a-Dime!&p=175659&viewfull=1#post175659)).

when you're are ready to go further on your own, you can explore more options to make full use of your system.

1. Windows 7 versus Windows 8

in general, w7 and 8 work fine on a g-series; as long as you:
i) have the legit license of your OS; and
i) make sure working drivers that you need are available either at ASUS's website, or directly from the manufacturers, you're good to go.

you can identify and verify all these from your device manager.

note: as of the time of writing, the driver for Atheros .ac wifi adapter is still not available for w7. if you happened to have this adapter and you have stock w8, i suggest you stick to w8. compared to those with stock w7 (home premium, 16gb ram limit), you get the advantage from w8 that has a higher ram limit (128gb).

- UPDATE: to those who have Atheros .ac wifi adapter, @demoadds reported (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?25726-Downgrading-from-windows-8-to-7&p=225205&viewfull=1#post225205) that there is in fact a working driver. please try it out and report it in the relevant threads!

2. UEFI versus BIOS Install

i suggest you stick to UEFI. the recent bios enhancements improve boot time in UEFI. furthermore, for machines with preloaded w8, you get to access an additional security feature: the secure boot control that is supposed to further minimize the security risks of your system.

however, if your daily usage is more towards BIOS, it's fine to go for it, too.

to check if you're running UEFI or BIOS install on your current system, simply open up the file, C:\Windows\Panther\setupact.log and look for 'Callback_BootEnvironmentDetect' without quotes. the immediate next line below that line will tell you it's EFI or BIOS.



2013-01-30 09:02:54, Info IBS Callback_BootEnvironmentDetect:FirmwareType 2.
2013-01-30 09:02:54, Info IBS Callback_BootEnvironmentDetect: Detected boot environment: EFI


3. Stock versus Fresh Install

most of us find a fresh install to be the least problematic (and save a lot of space, especially when you use a ssd). we had a number of issues that were either caused by the bloatware that came bundled with the stock OS, yet-to-find-out driver / OS issues.

4. Recovery Strategy
the last thing i would like to touch a bit is the recovery strategy. by default, with everything stock, we should have a working recovery (F9 recovery) that allow us to go back to factory state when bad things happen. with fresh install, and everything wiped, you can still implement a similar recovery strategy.

this is especially true for machines without the tool set to create recovery DVDs (notably those with preloaded w8).

there are a number of options to create a working copy of recovery media:
1. using third party cloning and imaging tool, such as Macrium Reflect (http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx).
2. using the built-in back up and restore (w7) / windows 7 file recovery (w8).

this is a video that gives you an idea on how easy it is to set up a recovery using system image (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl_HUKEDzNA). you can use the same install usb to initialize the recovery option.

i hope by now you can get the idea what you can do with your g-series. and with creativity of your own, you can rebuild your system to be more slick and responsive by making full use of its strengths, and still preserves the emergency recovery option that is provided by the factory setup.

Tomislav
02-03-2013, 07:55 PM
bro, awesome...

Clintlgm
02-09-2013, 02:51 PM
Thanks Rewben for putting this all in one place that we all can find and direct people to.

Bellic
02-10-2013, 06:00 AM
Thank you Mr Rewben. You are very helpful - as always !

User_n
02-12-2013, 03:59 AM
many many thanks mate!!! cheers...

rewben
02-12-2013, 05:00 PM
hey don't mention it guys; the guide is by no means a perfect one, so please help correct it if possible. i will do some fine-tuning later, too.

rewben
02-12-2013, 05:55 PM
Fresh Operating System Installs

now we move on to the actual fresh install process. a typical process is pretty simple:

1. create and back up your current windows system image
for machines with stock w8, you might also wanna grab your windows 8 key now. from what i've read, windows will be automatically activated with your stock bios. however, to be safe, do this as a backup.

2. grab the latest bios and drivers from ASUS Website
- if you don't have the windows installation media, get the relevant ISO and create one now.
- as for your current bios, you should be able to find a copy in your C:\ (it might be hidden, so you need to turn on "show hidden files" in your windows/file explorer).
- save all these files into an external storage. normally, with a 8gb usb stick, you can create a windows install usb, and then create a folder called drivers and start filling up that folder with the latest drivers that you can find.

3. set up your bios
- normally you should update your bios to the latest; here are some of the precautions that i have made:
a) i will load the bios defaults BEFORE bios upgrades;
b) i always put a copy of the latest working bios in C:\(g55vw.bin, g75vw.bin, g75vx.bin), so that i can always revert to the working one using ctrl+home ezflash combo;
- if things go well, you should make sure that AHCI is selected in your Bios > Advanced Boot > SATA Configurations; for bios with secure boot option, you might need to adjust the relevant options accordingly (see above).
- NOTE: always check the forum for new bios issues; up to this writing, some of our friends had problems after a successful bios upgrades. if you're not comfortable with this step (especially when your system works fine without new bios), it is better to skip the upgrade.

4. prepare your SSD
- if you're installing a new ssd, put it in the secondary bay, and boot your machine. for now all you need to do is to upgrade its firmware, if there is any. to do this, you need to get the latest ssd management software and firmware from the manufacturer website.

5. fresh windows installation
- here is when you replace your stock hdd with the new ssd (i.e. put it in the bay where your stock hdd is placed);
- take out the stock hdd physically. it is better to keep it untouched for a little while, until the new system is stable. you can proceed to load the windows installation.
- if your windows failed to boot, check and make your target disk the first boot option in bios. make sure you take out your installation media upon first reboot. normally it will boot straight away and continue the installation process (because the target disk is the only bootable one in your system).

6. driver installation
- install the drivers. multiple reboots are required in this stage.

7. run Windows Performance Index
- from what i've read, this triggers SSD optimized settings in w7/8 (e.g. TRIM, prefetch, superfetch, etc.).
- if the system works fine, you can now activate the windows.

8. install necessary software
- for common and useful software, there is a website called Ninite (http://ninite.com/) (a good find by @Tomislav) basically you just check the boxes of the software listed in that website, and you can download the unified installer for the checked software. it might help to make your life easier when you perform a clean install.

9. create a new system image

note that you normally need to perform the steps above once (except for no. 6, 8, and 9).

after that, whenever the OS is acting weird, you can choose to restore the windows from the system image (which is why it's important to keep the system image as updated as possible).

below is how to create a usb stick (i assume your usb stick is at x:\):

w7, UEFI (GPT disk)


a) format your usb with FAT32;
b) copy all the contents from windows 7 iso into the formatted usb stick;
c) if you have a working windows 7 64bit, find C:\Windows\Boot\EFI\bootmgfw.efi; if not, use 7-zip to open the install.wim in x:\sources\ (select > right click > open archive). then in the 7-zip explorer, browse to folder '1\Windows\Boot\EFI\'. extract the file bootmgfw.efi.
d) now in you usb stick, create a 'boot' folder in the 'efi' folder (i.e. x:\efi\boot) if it's missing. in that efi folder you should see the 'microsoft' folder.
e) put the bootmgfw.efi inside the newly created 'boot' folder and rename it as bootx64.efi (x:\efi\boot\bootx64.efi)


w7, BIOS (MBR disk)


a) format your usb with NTFS;
b) follow the steps above; steps b) to e).


w8, UEFI (GPT disk)


a) format your usb with FAT32;
b) copy all the contents from windows 8 iso into the formatted usb stick.


w8, BIOS (MBR disk)


a) format your usb with NTFS;
b) copy all the contents from windows 8 iso into the formatted usb stick.

BuLaXa
02-12-2013, 06:55 PM
note: as of the time of writing, the driver for Atheros .ac wifi adapter is still not available for w7. if you happened to have this adapter and you have stock w8, i suggest you stick to w8. compared to those with stock w7 (home premium, 16gb ram limit), you get the advantage from w8 that has a higher ram limit (128gb).

Well, I wish I had known that BEFORE I made my downgrade from win8 to win7 back in January... now I'm screwed!! :( :( no wi-fi on this laptop...
I really hope they fix this problem, it is an important one...

rewben
02-13-2013, 06:51 PM
@BuLaXa, that's actually based on your reports :) now the good news: check this out (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?25726-Downgrading-from-windows-8-to-7&p=225205&viewfull=1#post225205) and good luck!

Wolowizard
02-15-2013, 04:39 AM
Fantastic guide, very helpful. I just bought a G75VX-T4153H (Australia) with Windows 8 pre-loaded. This guide will make it easy to do a clean install, thanks.

One quick question about the USB 3.0 drivers in windows 8. Are the proper drivers not even installed on the pre-loaded W8?

rewben
02-15-2013, 04:50 AM
@Wolowizard, officially there is no support for usb 3.0 driver from intel yet. the usb 3.0 driver is from Microsoft. unofficially, you can do this (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28599-g75-usb-drivers&p=218511&viewfull=1#post218511). you need to disable driver signature enforcement (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?26155-Complete-Solution-Installing-Windows-7-Drivers-onto-Windows-8-G75VW-(and-others)) for this.

Wolowizard
02-15-2013, 12:04 PM
Thanks again :)

rewben
02-15-2013, 01:38 PM
no problem; good luck :)

rewben
02-20-2013, 04:34 PM
G55/G75 BIOS

RELATED LINKS (possible solutions):
- G75VW Black screen (no BIOS) After BIOS update [solved] (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?34449-G75VW-Black-screen-(no-BIOS)-After-BIOS-update-solved&p=279980&viewfull=1#post279980) (by @Dreamonic)

Before You Begin
- make sure the battery is fully charged, and your laptop is plugged in to the external power source.

1. BIOS Upgrade

there are 2 ways to perform bios upgrade:
a) Easy Flash - you can access the easy flash gui in 2 ways - spam the F4 key during boot, or go into the bios (spam F2 key or ESC key on boot) and start easy flash from the advanced tab. this is a much safer way to flash your bios.
b) WinFlash - you can also use this windows-based utility from ASUS to perform the upgrade.

a typical process to flash a bios is simple:
1. format a usb stick with fat32;
2. extract the bios file directly from the archive to the usb stick;
3. for easy flash: turn you laptop off; plug in the usb stick with bios; turn your laptop on and hit related key to run easy flash. in the easy flash gui, navigate and select the new bios file you want to apply then press enter to execute the upgrade.
4. for winflash: run the winflash program as administrator, select the new bios file and apply the upgrade.

for the machines with stock w8, you might need to disable fast startup in your power plan, and then choose restart instead of shutdown to access the easy flash.

2. BIOS Restore/Downgrade

when there is something wrong with the new bios, you can still restore the last working one:
1. easy flash (ctrl+home combo) - put the bios that you want to restore/downgrade to at c:\. depending on the laptop model that you have, you should named it accordingly (note the filenames' case):
- g55vw: c:\G55VW.BIN
- g75vw: c:\G75VW.BIN
- g75vx: c:\G75VX.BIN

now, turn off your laptop; then press and hold the left ctrl and home keys, and hit the power button to turn on the laptop. continue to press and hold the ctrl+home key combo until the easy flash gui appear.

2. winflash: see here (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?22595-How-do-you-downgrade-bios-on-G55VW&p=155208&viewfull=1#post155208)

Arvinaaaaa
02-27-2013, 06:22 AM
Urgent help needed windows 8 clean
guys, I need some help..when I bought my g55,it was in windows 7..then upgraded it to windows 8..after receiving it back from the asus service center due to rma, then reformatted it back to the windows 7 default settings with 2 partitions..then I tried to upgrade back to windows 8 by the windows upgrade assistant and it was a SUCCESS..my problem is, all the windows 7 files are still in the hdd, including the recovery partition and the 2 partitions..i want to merge all into 1 partition,format the whole hdd and reinstall windows 8 clean again without the old windows 7 files and the recovery partition...so how do I make it happen because I cant access the bios during startup in windows 8..please do help me as this is urgent, thanks

ps.if I burn the windows 8 iso in a dvd, does it provide a hdd options? and how do I boot from dvd?#

please help me, thanks

rewben
02-27-2013, 07:54 AM
@Arvinaaaaa, i assume you mean the hdd option is the section for you to select which drive/partition to install the OS. yes, you will be given the choice if you do a fresh install.

before you do anything, i suggest you back up your activation token with Advanced Tokens Manager (http://www.joshcellsoftwares.com/2011/09/AdvancedTokensManager.html), so that you can restore it after a fresh install (here i assume you use the same hardware)

for w8, go to your active power plan, and disable fast startup. if that is not working, choose restart instead of shutdown; spam esc key on reboot.

1. create the w8 pro install usb stick (preferred size: 4gb or more; format it with fat32; extract all contents in the ISO to the usb stick);
2. turn off the laptop;
3. plug in the usb stick;
4. turn the laptop on and spam the esc key on boot;
5. select uefi:usb.stick from the menu and proceed.

once everything is installed properly, restore the activation token.

draco69
03-15-2013, 06:13 AM
Hi again rewben,

I bought a 128gb OCZ Vector for my G75VW BBK5 last week. Since I don't have any important files in my G75, I'm going to do a fresh instal Win 7 on my OCZ Vector. BUT, the problem is when I try to instal the OS via usb it doesn't work. I found an error like "remove disks or other media press any key to restart" ( I have remove my hdd and nothing plugged in on the usb ports except the installation usb). THEN again the second error is "Bootmgr Is Missing, Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to Restart".. I CAN'T boot from my SSD. I've already set it as PRIMARY and ACTIVE from Disk Management, but still it doesn't work. *FYI : i have format the usb with fat32*

When i tried to instal the OS from iso file (Boot from my HDD then open the ISO Win 7) it works! I set the boot setting from bios to SSD aaaand the error occurs AGAIN .. Bootmgr is missing bla bla bla. BUT if i set the boot setting to HDD and i choose the OS from SSD (dual OS option) it works. I've tried many ways from googling and the error still occurs. How can i boot from my SSD ?? is that possible if the problem due to incompatibility between OCZ with my G75 ? because i've read a thread of someone can't instal OCZ ssd to his G75 bestbuy. But i haven't try another brand anyway. Please help me :(

rewben
03-15-2013, 11:13 AM
@draco69, sorry for the late reply. i assume that you have stock windows 7 before this; and i assume that you created your usb stick as described here (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?26505-Help!-I-am-an-idiot&p=198032&viewfull=1#post198032).

let's try the usb install route again. the way that works for me is always to boot the usb stick using the esc key:

1. if there is an option to change uefi boot option, enable it;
2. spam the esc key on boot to bring up a boot menu; select uefi:<your.usb.stick>;
3. see if it lets you install the windows.

from your description, the installation was successful with your second method; the problem is that the laptop did not boot from ssd automatically. have you tried the esc key method to see if you can boot from it? have you set up the boot option to point to the windows boot manager of your new ssd?

please take out the stock hdd first to prevent the system 'getting confused'. ocz vector should be fine for your system.

draco69
03-18-2013, 05:14 AM
@rewben, according to the link you gave for usb :

i formatted my usb with f32 and copied the iso file of w7, but in point c) "if you have a working windows 7 64bit, find C:\Windows\Boot\EFI\bootmgfw.efi; if not, use 7-zip to open the install.wim in x:\sources\ (select > right click > open archive). then in the 7-zip explorer, browse to folder 1\Windows\Boot\EFI\. extract the file bootmgfw.efi."

i have a working w7, and i found the bootmgfw.efi and you said i have to extract the file bootmgfw.efi to folder 1\Windows\Boot\EFI\. Where is that folder ? do you mean i have to extract the file to C:\Windows\Boot\EFI\ ?

and point d) "now in you usb stick, create a 'boot' folder in the 'efi' folder (i.e. x:\efi\boot). in that efi folder you should see the 'microsoft' folder"

i created efi\boot\ folder in my usb but i can't see the 'microsoft' folder ? but i keep going to next step i put the bootmgfw.efi inside the newly created 'boot' folder and renamed it as bootx64.efi. Try to reboot by spamming esc key method, boot from uefi my usb but then the same error still occurs, "remove disks or other media press any key to restart" and "Bootmgr Is Missing, Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to Restart".

And how to enable uefi boot option ?

rewben
03-18-2013, 03:44 PM
@draco69, ah.. sorry for the confusion:

1. you should copy/extract the contents of the iso file to your usb stick; not copy the entire iso file literally.

2. if you have a working w7, just forget about the part about '1\Windows\Boot\EFI\'. while you're on your w7, use the file C:\Windows\Boot\EFI\bootmgfw.efi

3. if you have extract the contents of the iso file into your usb stick, you should have seen those directories that i described in your usb stick.

as for the uefi boot option, i mean if you have that in your bios. but first, please tell me your g75 model number (g75vw/x-yyyy), and what your bios version is.

Traise Trell
03-21-2013, 05:56 PM
I have the G55, and I wanted to install ubuntu. However, there was no option in the BIOS to disable Secure Boot/CSM. Any ideas?

rewben
03-22-2013, 01:36 AM
if you are running stock w8, you will have those options.

it's highly probable that your machine is preloaded with stock w7, that means you don't have those options. so you can do what you want right away.

Traise Trell
03-23-2013, 01:40 PM
There is no option to disable secure boot, but when I boot the disk in UEFI mode, it briefly flashes "Secure Boot not enabled" before booting the Ubuntu Live USB. Afterwards, the Ubuntu live system doesn't see my Windows 7 install.

Is this an issue w/ Secure Boot or something else?

rewben
03-23-2013, 02:02 PM
uh? what is the model number of your laptop? (it's something like g75vw/x-yyyy)

hobs0n
03-25-2013, 08:41 AM
Hello peeps!

Im thinking of buying a g75vx since my old msi gx740 is dying. I've been checking out threads about the g75vx and I am not 100% sure yet.

1. I'm planning to buy a SSD to it straight away, can you recommend one? Speed doesn't matter that much since all SSDs are fast enough for me these days :) hence, having the 750tb hdd that comes with the computer forå storage, the ssd for w8 and gaming :)

2. Do i have to upgrade the bios or uefi before I wipe and does a fresh install of w8?

3. It is uefi, not bios that is recommended to run? Will I have a choice?

4. How limited is w8 with uefi, I still get to make partitions as I like them during the install of w8?

EDIT: Btw, what is the big differences between VX and VW? For some reason most shops here in Sweden only have the VW in storage.

rewben
03-25-2013, 02:35 PM
1. I'm planning to buy a SSD to it straight away, can you recommend one? Speed doesn't matter that much since all SSDs are fast enough for me these days :) hence, having the 750tb hdd that comes with the computer forå storage, the ssd for w8 and gaming :)

my own preferences:
consumer ssd: plextor m5s, samsung 840, intel 335
performance ssd: samsung 840 pro, plextor m5p, intel 520, samsung 830



2. Do i have to upgrade the bios or uefi before I wipe and does a fresh install of w8?

in general, you should upgrade your bios before doing a fresh install. however, if you do not have issues with your laptop, you can skip this.



3. It is uefi, not bios that is recommended to run? Will I have a choice?

you can run bios or uefi. this depends on what you want to use the laptop for.

for vx machines, it's by default to run in uefi (it has some advantages such as fast boot optimizations over bios). however, bios is still fine.



4. How limited is w8 with uefi, I still get to make partitions as I like them during the install of w8?

for a fresh install, you can do whatever you want (except that you should follow the uefi partition scheme)



EDIT: Btw, what is the big differences between VX and VW? For some reason most shops here in Sweden only have the VW in storage.

to me: vx has thunderbolt, and .ac wifi adapter, 670mx nvidia gpu.

deftelement
03-30-2013, 10:58 PM
rewben;

I spoke with Asus technicians several times regarding the process of adding an SSD drive to my g75vx and migrating my windows 8 install to it. The final call concluded with a manager stating "you need to buy windows again so you can get a disc, then you can add a new drive". What b.s. considering I already own it on a laptop I just bought from them. I followed your well thought out guide and I am up and running without purchasing a new Windows 8 OS.

It is really sad when the best technical support comes from the users rather than the source. Fantastic laptop for the money. Can play Rift at high settings without lag (22fps in conquests, 42 in warfronts, 50+ everywhere else). If it wasn't for you rewben, I would be dead in the water, thank you sincerely, you are an asset to the community. (miyoshi, rift)

yangshfmarine
03-30-2013, 11:42 PM
Rewben,

I created this account in ROG forum just to say thank you to you!
Just purchased a G75VX few days ago and the first thing that came in mind was to upgrade the stock 750GB 5400rpm to SSD.
Was quite confusing of the procedures and read many threads online and your work of summarizing them together and your helpful replies to others really help me a lot.
Now I am just waiting for my SSD to arrive then will do the upgrade myself.

Again, big thank to you, Rewben! God bless...

rewben
03-31-2013, 03:57 AM
rewben;

I spoke with Asus technicians several times regarding the process of adding an SSD drive to my g75vx and migrating my windows 8 install to it. The final call concluded with a manager stating "you need to buy windows again so you can get a disc, then you can add a new drive". What b.s. considering I already own it on a laptop I just bought from them. I followed your well thought out guide and I am up and running without purchasing a new Windows 8 OS.

It is really sad when the best technical support comes from the users rather than the source. Fantastic laptop for the money. Can play Rift at high settings without lag (22fps in conquests, 42 in warfronts, 50+ everywhere else). If it wasn't for you rewben, I would be dead in the water, thank you sincerely, you are an asset to the community. (miyoshi, rift)


Rewben,

I created this account in ROG forum just to say thank you to you!
Just purchased a G75VX few days ago and the first thing that came in mind was to upgrade the stock 750GB 5400rpm to SSD.
Was quite confusing of the procedures and read many threads online and your work of summarizing them together and your helpful replies to others really help me a lot.
Now I am just waiting for my SSD to arrive then will do the upgrade myself.

Again, big thank to you, Rewben! God bless...

hey @deftelement and @yangshfmarine, welcome to ROG, and please don't mention it :)

like i said in the beginning of this thread, it is a collective effort of our friends in the ROG community; and all i did is to put them together. i am glad and happy to know you guys found it useful.

but it you need more in-depth answers, please do a search and do ask in related threads.

join us if you guys had time. remember, this place is not just for you to ask technical questions (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?10964-Sharing-Laughs) :D

@deftelement, yes, but most of the times that's really the case (although it should not be that way, but users tend to have more knowledge than official technicians regarding their own products, maybe because we use it more often than they do). g75vx is a good machine :)

@yangshfmarine, along the way if you found a problem or what not, please do a search first and ask in related threads.

thank you, guys. you have made my day :)

hobs0n
03-31-2013, 09:00 AM
I agree with deftelement and yangshmarine, you truly are helpful and makes life easier for us newbs :) I bid thee thanx again! =)

Ive been searching more for SSDs when I have been deciding to buy or not to buy that lovely 75VX. I just found this one: Corsair Neutron (http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Corsair-Neutron-SATA-III-SSD-Review/?page=9) and it seems to have a really reliable overall performance. The new a link controller dont have an old trustworthy record but I hope we can trust Corsair... :)

Now its deciding time for me, yesterday I talked with the techs at the store where I left my old MSi GX740 for checkup. The HDD is apparently broken on it so now I have to decide if I want to buy a new cheap 2,5HDD for the old laptop.. or to buy a new G75VX. The old laptop has it disadvantages, its a big crack in the plast shell between the screen, its old and slow and modern games dont work that good, its noisy, terrible battery life (which usually isnt an issue but sometimess its nice to be able to use it for studying somewhere without power available).

Buying a new comp is something I dont have saved money for atm so I have to take it on a payback loan, which means about 500SEK/75USD per month in cost...

Hard choices!! =)

rewben
03-31-2013, 02:13 PM
hi @hobs0n, thank you. we really appreciate the encouragement from you guys :)

for Corsair Neutron, i don't have the chance to try it out, so i don't have anything useful to share about it. but when i compared the price at newegg.com, i think it's cheaper to get a plextor m5p extreme, as of this writing (199.99) than this one (209.99). plextor's ssd is a newer release than CN, with higher iops (100k read especially); same 5-year manufacturer warranty.

in terms of g75vx, it's an refined release for the g75vw imo. it has some minor but new features that are not available in g75vw (thunderbolt, better gpu, at least).

when you do purchase a g75 vx, please ask the seller for exchange / return policies. this is a preventive measure as a consumer (even if i have confidence in the build quality of g75vx). please make sure you confirm that everything works as expected (cpu/gpu temps; absence of dead/stuck pixels, abnormal colors (display); common ports that you use daily; ethernet and wifi; etc.). it's common for electronic equipment that if the unit is defective from out of box, then it will be your night mare for the rest of its lifespan.

yangshfmarine
04-06-2013, 12:27 AM
Dear Reuben,

NEED HELP!

I got my SSD yesterday and tried to the Cloning Method ( i prefer over fresh install coz i wish to clone the recovery partition over to the SSD, for the F9 function) using the Macrium Reflect). Once copied, everything is running ok, except when i tried the F9 function upon startup. The whole hardisk seem to be failed, i cant access to the F9 recovery function and the window boots itself. Any idea what causing this?


Thanks.

rewben
04-06-2013, 01:41 AM
@yangshfmarine, how did you clone your hdd to ssd? when you said, 'everything is running ok' did you mean it booted ok or the cloning was ok?

normally, as far as i know, cloning will definitely cause f9 recovery to fail. when you cloned the stock hdd to ssd, there are something low-level that were messed up during the process (knowing that a small ssd cannot take all of the 750gb/1tb stock hdd).

yangshfmarine
04-06-2013, 02:52 AM
@Rewben

Hey man, thanks for your prompt reply. Really appreciate it...


The Cloning was successful through M.Reflect, all partitions are copied from HDD to SSD, then i swapped the bays. then it booted ok, everything elses are ok, eg .browsing etc...

However, when i tried the F9 upon startup again, the hardisk just died. the screen has the disk need to be reset and could never be booted again! So, i need to swap back the hardisks then delete all partitions in the SSD, through EASEUS partition magic.

Now i am clueless on my next step...except for a clean install...

Any recommendation from you?

yangshfmarine
04-06-2013, 02:59 AM
@Rewben

Thanks again for your prompt reply, appreciate it...

The cloning was successful through M.Reflect (all partitions in original HDD was cloned successfully to SSD)
Then I put the SSD alone in the primary bay, it booted ok and all apps and browing are fine...
then i restarted my laptop to try the F9 recovery function, then the screen pop up saying the hardisk need to be reset, then i never could boot in window ever again...

Then, i just swapped back the bays again , there i could delete all partitions created in SSD then make it to out-of-facctory like...

Any idea? Recommendation?

Thanks

yangshfmarine
04-06-2013, 04:24 AM
@Rewben

Weird why my posts never show up when I tried to reply you...This is my 3rd attempt...

Thanks again for your prompt reply.

The cloning process was successful ( all partitions are cloned to the SSD) then I swap the SSD to the HDD bay then it booted up perfectly and smoothly, usual task like browsing the net and so on were running perfectly also.

Then i go ahead have it shutted down to test the F9 Recovery , then the error appeared, saying the hardisk has error to reboot etc, then it cant boot into windows ever again, then i need to swap back to the original HDD and wondering what did i do wrong....

Any idea? or recommendation?


Thanks

rewben
04-06-2013, 05:09 AM
hm.. something is wrong; you have triple-posted lol!

that means the cloning was successful and the cloned OS actually ran well, except for the f9 recovery. in that case, just do the cloning once again, but don't use f9 recovery for recovery purposes.

a clean install will not have a f9 recovery, unless you create a custom image yourself.

yangshfmarine
04-06-2013, 08:46 AM
Yeah..i realised that (triple posted)

I guess i got no other choice but to leave the Recovery Partition in the old HDD drive.
Say if one day i would need to use Recovery Partition, could i just swap it to primary again, then use the F9 function?
Could it still be functional since the OS isnt installed in the HDD?

rewben
04-06-2013, 11:31 AM
@yangshfmarine, sorry but from what i've read, it will be better if you leave the stock hdd alone and intact if you wanna have a working f9 recovery with it. although imo there should be something that we can do to call it out after messing with other partitions, there was no reported working steps for this purpose yet.

yangshfmarine
04-06-2013, 03:20 PM
Ok then, i guess i have no better choice...

Thanks again, Rewben

rewben
04-07-2013, 02:27 PM
ah sorry that i couldn't be of much help.

Sesimie
04-15-2013, 02:04 PM
So needed.....Glad you guys post such helpful info!!:cool:

VN_ROG
07-31-2013, 04:43 AM
g75 motherboard supports UEFI or not? please help! :confused:

rewben
07-31-2013, 10:47 AM
yes, @VN_ROG, all g75 models are uefi capable. you just need to set it up properly to enable it.

Theorize
09-10-2013, 03:39 PM
So I've been using my stock g55vw for almost a year now and I just read this thread. Now I haven't really messed with any of this and I'm looking to get into it. However, what will this do for my comp and what is the best way to back up my files? Right now I have them backed up on my HHD data disk I believe, my OS is on my SSD.

Clintlgm
09-10-2013, 07:17 PM
Ok so you have a back up of your SSD on your Hard Drive. You should have both back up on an external hard drive or Hard Drive on a different computer. Personaly Have Daily back ups going to a external Hard Drive and a Online Cloud back up running real time pretty much.
On my Business WS's I have 2 completely different Cloud back ups one real time and one daily. And 1 external hard drive daily back up and one Network daily back up. I have hard drive Images in multiple stages of all NB and WS to restore if needed. These are stored on External Hard Drives. I have OS ready to Clean Install on USB Thumb drives Win 7 Pro and Win 7 HP, and Win 8 Pro all 64 bit.

Your back up plan should suite the value of your Data.

My plan would be excessive for some people then again for me since I deal with Legal, and Government documents I can't afford to lose any of these.
The more we get away from Hard Copy documents the more important back up Schemes become.
I have been working on my Music Library for over 10 years I sure don't want to lose that due to corruption or hard drive failure or malware,

rewben
09-16-2013, 04:45 PM
@Clintlgm is right. external backups are critical. there is nothing more important than the data you have collected all these months.

it's better for you to plan your upgrades first. what do you intend to do?

rewben
11-27-2013, 12:16 PM
HOW TO INSTALL STOCK WINDOWS USING DISM AND INSTALL.WIM

this note is about how you are going to install the stock windows 8/8.1 using command-line dism and install.wim in your recovery partition. i use this way to do fresh installs with my custom install.wim on the existing but freshly formatted OS partition (i slipstream my install.wim from time to time so that i do not need to download updates from windows updates all over again; the total size of download is getting bigger day by day).

i was asked a question via PM on how to do this manually with the install.wim copied from the ASUS recovery partition, so here goes.

what you need
1. a windows bootable usb stick that is 32gb or more;
2. install.wim copied from ASUS recovery partition;
3. patience.

system prerequisites
- the target system must have the proper UEFI system structure (system recovery partition, EFI system partition, OS partition, ASUS recovery partition).

again, before doing anything, back up everything from the target system to an external drive before it's too late. it's better to move all data out of the drive that you are going to do something like below.

the key steps can be summarized as follows:
1) prepare the bootable usb disk and install.wim;
2) determine the drive letters of OS partition and bootable usb stick;
3) use dism to install windows to the OS partition; and
4) make the new windows bootable.

1) prepare the bootable usb disk and install.wim
(you need a working w8/8.1 computer to create this)

first, format the usb stick with fat32, and create the bootable usb stick like i described in the earlier sections. it doesn't matter which w8/8.1 ISO that you have, as long as it can boot your laptop and starts the windows setup dialogue then it's fine. rename the usb stick as 'INSTALL' (you can rename it to whatever you want. i just use the name for the purpose of this note).

the tricky part here is to store the install.wim into the same usb stick. it should be way larger than 4gb, the limit of individual file size for fat32. to overcome this we split the install.wim into small pieces with dism:

Dism /Split-Image /ImageFile:install.wim /SWMFile:install.swm /FileSize:4000

the result of the above command will create install1,swm, install2.swm, .. each with the size of 4000MB maximum from the original install.wim. copy these .swm files to your bootable usb stick (i.e. <usb.stick.drive.letter>:\)

2) determine the drive letters of OS partition and bootable usb stick

in this step, there are two things you need to find out:
i) the drive letter of your usb stick; and
ii) the drive letter of your OS partition.

go on and turn off your laptop. plug in the usb stick. boot the laptop and spam the esc key to bring up the boot menu. select uefi:<usb.stick> to proceed.

once you're in the windows setup environment, press shift key + f10 key. this should bring up the command prompt. the first thing you should do is to find out the OS partition so that you can format it.

now, pay attention to this part:
a) in the command prompt, type 'diskpart';

b) you should now in diskpart console. now type 'list disk' to get the list of disk on your system. write down the disk number (0, 1, 2, ..) that is marked as GPT (usually there is only one labelled as GPT).

c) type 'list vol' to get the list of volumes in your drives. the OS volume should be 'C' in the 'ltr' column and it's labelled 'OS' (let's assume it's 'C' in this note). also, determine the usb stick drive letter (D, E, F, ..) in the 'ltr' column, too. this should be easy because you have labelled it as 'INSTALL' in step 1 (let's assume it's 'F').

d) select the disk where your OS is located with the command 'sel disk x' where x is the disk number that is marked GPT (see 2.b);

e) now list the partitions in the selected disk with the command 'list part'. the OS partition is usually the largest of all (with type 'Primary'). write down the partition number (0, 1, 2, ..).

f) select the OS partition with the command 'sel part y' where y is the partition number determined by 2.e above.

g) format the partition with the command below (be careful, triple check that this is the correct partition!):

format quick fs=ntfs label='OS'

h) exit diskpart by typing 'exit'. now you have formatted the OS partition and it's ready for new installation.

3) use dism to install windows to the OS partition

now it's time to install the new windows. type this command (replace the drive letter that you have determined in 2.c):

Dism /Apply-Image /ImageFile:F:\install.swm /SWMFile:F:\install*.swm /index:1 /ApplyDir:C:\

where, F:\ is your usb stick with install*.swm files, and C:\ is your OS partition.

if there is no error, the installation will start. wait until it's finished and proceed to the final step.

4) make the new windows bootable

once the installation is completed, issue the command:

bcdboot C:\windows

again, replace the 'C' with the OS partition that you have found out in 2.c.

that's all for the installation using dism with ASUS' install.wim. you can now close the command prompt and windows setup dialogue and reboot the laptop.

your laptop should boot normally. good luck.

Mister_S
12-03-2013, 02:32 PM
Hi Rewben,

I just bought a brand new G75VX and a 240GB SSD to make it my OS drive. The G75 has windows 8 preloaded, I already used backtracker to get the factory image and drivers/apps. I also extracted the product key with Magic Jelly Bean but from what I have read elsewhere this key might not be the real key (people say you cannot extract keys from BIOS, you just get a dummy).

Now I am wondering about the easiest way to get a stable win 8 installation on my SSD. The guides usually use a recovery DVD or bootable ISO image at some point - which I don not have. Can I simply swap the HDD for the SDD, use the Backtracker factory image to install win 8 and then put the HDD into the second slot as data drive?

rewben
12-03-2013, 05:29 PM
hi @Mister_S, congratulations on your new ssd. a beast like your g75vx surely need it to unleash its true power.

first thing first: since you're on stock w8, it's best to back the activation tokens up using advanced tokens manager (http://joshcellsoftwares.com/products/advancedtokensmanager/). keep it in a safe place.

sometimes it might be the case that the key was not extracted properly. however most of the times, it is because these oem keys have reached the activation limit. if the limit is up and you try to activate windows online, it will fail.

the easiest way to get a working w8 installation on your ssd is cloning via macrium reflect, or perform a clean install. if you do not have a compatible iso image for your laptop, the backtracker should be able to restore the windows into factory state, too. you should swap the hdd with ssd, and keep the hdd for a while. only play with the stock hdd after your ssd runs windows properly.

now before you do anything, can you please double check if there is an install.wim in your usb stick created with backtracker?

Mister_S
12-03-2013, 06:58 PM
Thanks for the advice already!! I will check out this advanced tokens manager. But I could not find an install.wim on the usb stick! Should I rerun Backtracker?

What are the advantages/disadvantages of cloning vs. Backtracker factory image vs clean installation with ISO? It seems a bit tricky to find a good and compatible win 8 ISO that's why I assumed that using Backtracker should be the easiest option for me. I also saw that there is an option to create a recovery USB with win 8. Is that a viable option?

rewben
12-04-2013, 01:10 AM
cloning is the fastest way to restore a system. @DRAKON wrote a simple guide for this (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?26175-Help-with-Windows-8-transfer-on-G75&p=194143&viewfull=1#post194143). save you a lot of time. it's similar to recovery usb with w8.

clean install gives you everything fresh, without bloatware that come with asus factory state. to know the windows version, just type slmgr /dlv in administrative command prompt.

i don't know much about backtracker sorry :/

Mister_S
12-04-2013, 02:28 AM
OK, sounds like the fresh installation would be preferable but I have tried for a couple of ours to get my hands on a clean win 8 iso that fits to my system but without any success. I will give the factory image restore a chance but now you got me worried! Is there supposed to be a install.wim? I made my recovery partitions visible but could not find this file there either....

rewben
12-04-2013, 02:42 AM
uh? well, don't worry haha! there are still many who know more about your laptop than i do :)

since you have made the recovery partition visible, can you find anything in that partition which has a file size of more than 15gb in it? (maybe install.wim is the wrong file name after all)

Mister_S
12-04-2013, 03:04 AM
I just checked. There are 3 hidden partitions, sizes 433 MB, 30 MB and 12.4 GB. On the largest partition ("Restore") there is a folder called RecoveryImage with ~12 GB. However, I cannot open it - access denied!

rewben
12-04-2013, 04:12 AM
aha! yes that's the folder that stores the recovery image. (ok asus called the recovery partition as 'restore').

maybe you can use linux livecd to get into the folder and copy the restore file out from it. with that file you can restore the system anytime using this method (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28758-GUIDE-G55-G75-Upgrade-Notes&p=341922&viewfull=1#post341922). (well, that is when you have your ssd partitioned with uefi style)

Mister_S
12-04-2013, 05:18 AM
OK, I got a little bit impatient and swapped the HDD for the new SSD! And win 8 installation with the Backtracker image went very smoothly! :cool: This is the summary of what I did:

- Install Backtracker 3.0.3 on the HDD with Win 8 pre-installed
- get factory image on 16GB USB drive (I did not need the driver/app back-up in the end, it seems to be included in the first)
- switched off the laptop, replaced the original HDD with the new SSD
- switched laptop back on. No changes in BIOS were necessary, the backtracker recovery program started immediately!
- after maybe 30 minutes everything was running as on the original HDD - just faster!

One thing I did not like: I was not asked about the partitions on the SSD, now I have the original setup again with an OS partition a data drive and the hidden recovery partitions. Since this is supposed to be the OS/important programs drive I would have preferred to combine OS and data... But otherwise I am very happy so far. This was way easier than I thought!

Now is there anything I need to do so that Windows optimizes the SSD? I remember reading somewhere that you are supposed to initiate some virtual handshake but I cannot find the article anymore...

rewben
12-04-2013, 05:32 AM
nice; good for you!

i didn't know it's that easy. it's a restore, so you get what are supposed to be a factory state.

for ssd optimization, in windows 8, you just run windows performance index once, and the system should take care of the adjustments. then you can follow this one (http://www.thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimization-guides/the-ssd-optimization-guide-ultimate-windows-8-edition/). never heard of anything about virtual handshake in such optimizations.

Mister_S
12-04-2013, 05:45 AM
Yes, the windows experience index was exactly what I was looking for. Didn't know exactly what it is doing but now that is taken care of as well!

Thanks so much! All the help here is highly appreciated, made my life much easier already!!

jindov
01-24-2014, 09:33 AM
Sorry guys, does G75VW support UEFI?and how to enable it?

rewben
01-25-2014, 01:59 AM
hi @jindov, basically you just need to find the matching OS installation media (iso/dvd), then do the following:

1. convert the target disk (ssd/hdd) to gpt type;
2. create the uefi-capable install usb of the OS, and install the OS in uefi mode.

in case of w8 and w8.1, to create no. 2, you just format the usb to fat32, and then extract the contents of the iso/dvd directly into it. then while at POST, spam esc key and select uefi: <usb.stick> in the boot menu to continue.

rewben
05-10-2014, 10:45 AM
HOW TO CREATE A SYSTEM IMAGE USING MICROSOFT WINDOWS POWERSHELL

this note is about creating a system image in windows 8.1, using ms.windows.powershell command, instead of GUI way. the system image can be used in many ways: whether to restore a fully working system on an existing drive, or to install it on a new drive. the apparent advantage of this is that, rather than starting a fresh install from scratch, plus all other apps/games/system tweaks and their respective updates, which will take some times, now i can restore the full system in no time.(for my systems, it's under 20 minutes, with everything ready to go)

(note: for a restore on a new drive to work, the new drive needs to have the sufficient capacity to house the restored image, not necessarily must be equal or larger than the existing drive. for instance, i have a samsung 840 pro 512gb ssd as OS drive. the total space used for my OS plus other relevant system partitions is 400gb, and the rest is left unallocated for OP purposes. i can restore this system image to a new, smaller samsung 840 EVO 500gb without issue)

creating system image

the process is actually very simple:
1. fire up the ms.windows.powershell command as administrator (point the mouse pointer to windows powershell icon, right click on it and select 'run as administrator' from the popup menu), and use the following command in the powershell window:

wbAdmin start backup -backupTarget:<target.drive.letter>: -include:C: -allCritical -quiet

(replace the <target.drive.letter> with the destination drive to store the system image. it can be an external hdd or a network location)

2. the process will take some time. so wait for it to complete successfully. that's it.

restoring from system image

to restore a system image, simply run your windows installation media, choose repair your computer, and in the advanced tab, choose restore system image. follow the wizard to locate the system image and apply.

note that i just choose to create a system image for OS drive only. it will take much less time for restore compared to a full backup. if you wanna have a full backup, just add additional drives like the following:

wbAdmin start backup -backupTarget:<target.drive.letter>: -include:C:,D:,E: -allCritical -quiet

reference:
Wbadmin, Microsoft (http://technet.microsoft.com/de-de/library/cc754015(v=ws.10).aspx)

rewben
07-23-2014, 10:46 PM
G55 SSD RAID 0 NOTES

this is a simple note about how to make a ssd raid 0 setup in g55. it's been a while since i experimented with my g55, and a few weeks ago i decided to give it the last boost that i could think of: make a raid0 with 2x ssd in the machine. (actually this was the second last optimization that i have done. the actual last one involved software-based ram caching, which provides even impressive outcomes) raid setup in g55 was mentioned in the user's manual, but some parts of it were not described clearly. i have run it for a while now before i decided to put it here as reference. from my experiment, as long as you have 2 ssds with the same capacity, regardless of brand, it will still work. (i am running 1x ocz vertex 4 and 1x plextor m5m as raid 0)

for g75, the process is simple. all you have to do is to get a pair of ssd/hdd and put them in the hdd bays, set the sata mode to raid in bios, upon reboot press ctrl+i key combo to access raid menu for appropriate setup. (please refer to the user manual for more details)

this is not the case in g55. g55 comes with two different sata slots. 1x msata slot, and 1x standard sata hdd bay. (both are sata 3 connections) usually, in terms of disk selection, a safer bet to set up raid is to get a pair of identical disks (same model number, i.e. same capacity, same brand). with this combo of sata ports in g55, we know that it's at least impossible to make raid with 2x hdd. however with ssd, it actually can. also, recent releases of ssd already have matching models but in different form factors. (for instance, crucial m500/m550, and samsung 840 evo all have msata and sata form factors) so if you're not convinced that ssd from different brand will work nicely together, you can still have the option to choose these matching ssd for the same purpose.

the trickiest part imo is to put the msata ssd in. it requires a total teardown, flipping the mobo to access the msata slot. once you get pass that one, the rest is pretty easy.

bidomo
11-21-2014, 08:26 AM
Hey everyone!

Question to the OP:
I've read a bit your guide about restoring from WIM with DISM, I've found my recovery wim, can I burn this into a bootable BD-R with winPE and use DISM from there? I would be wiping the disk completely, saving a copy of the disk layout, and restoring directly from there, I would like to try Win7 in this laptop, but I don't wanna lose the original stock recovery image, and ghosting my C drive does not interest me at all right now...
Could that be doable?

Thanks in advance

rewben
11-26-2014, 01:48 PM
hi @bidomo, i think it will work, but i never tried that before sorry. about BD-R, i think the better storage media are external storage or usb stick. (i have least problems using these two, and they are much faster to complete the task)

actually i use this dism trick since w7. it works well till today (w8.1). i keep all my custom wim's in an external storage. i boot the machine with the windows install usb as usual, with the external storage connected to the machine at the same time. then i just reformat the OS partition/volume only and use dism to install windows.

in the case when i have wiped the disk clean, i will go through the windows installation with bootable usb once (i let it create the default layout first, because i am lazy to use diskpart most of the times. a simple script will do the same actually hehe), then reformat the OS partition and install a fresh copy of windows using dism and a custom wim.

imo all that matters is you keep the recovery wim in an external storage as a backup :)

tower42
11-27-2014, 06:38 PM
So I am finally gettibg around to installing a SSD on my G75 bk55. Price on black friday are so awesome I can't wait. So I was reading the guide and all of the notes since and it looks straight foreward. My plan is to folow the steps outlined, replacing the old hhd as my primary os drive and games and the old hhd as data. My question is, the tranfering of the os key and reusing the old hhd. After I upgrade bios, I swap the ssd into the primary bay where the hhd was and do a fresh install, can I use the same key? Do I have to unregisted the key so thatwhen I do the fresh install I can use the same one? Then once that is done and the system seems stable, I just put the old hhd into the secondary bay, clean it up and go? Anything special I need to do? Thanks in advance.

bidomo
11-28-2014, 08:03 PM
Thanks for the reply, I already did it, seems to work, and I feel like optical media can be more reliable on the long run, I also got an image of that recovery partition just in case, and I'll be saving it to several HDDs, I already suffered from multiple HDD failure this year (some brand new drives, some old too).

You just need to download the WIndows AIK, run the deployment tool, issue a single command, and prepare your image, very simple steps, you can also add some file manager to make things easier, and a batch script ready to receive a single parameter indicating your OS drive, and it will start restoring the install.wim.

I used to do this on DVD's in an old job I had,I was asking because I didn't know if this method supported UEFI booting and the max file size for ISO+UDF image, well, seems to be larger than BR media.

Keep up the good work!

rewben
11-29-2014, 08:44 AM
So I am finally gettibg around to installing a SSD on my G75 bk55. Price on black friday are so awesome I can't wait. So I was reading the guide and all of the notes since and it looks straight foreward. My plan is to folow the steps outlined, replacing the old hhd as my primary os drive and games and the old hhd as data. My question is, the tranfering of the os key and reusing the old hhd. After I upgrade bios, I swap the ssd into the primary bay where the hhd was and do a fresh install, can I use the same key? Do I have to unregisted the key so thatwhen I do the fresh install I can use the same one? Then once that is done and the system seems stable, I just put the old hhd into the secondary bay, clean it up and go? Anything special I need to do? Thanks in advance.

if your current windows is w7/8, advanced tokens manager can be used to back up and restore activation tokens. this is at least true if you swap the hdd with ssd only, without any other hardware changes.

as for w8.1 and up, the above method cannot be guaranteed. however, since you have a legit key, you can always call MS to help activate the OS.


Thanks for the reply, I already did it, seems to work, and I feel like optical media can be more reliable on the long run, I also got an image of that recovery partition just in case, and I'll be saving it to several HDDs, I already suffered from multiple HDD failure this year (some brand new drives, some old too).

You just need to download the WIndows AIK, run the deployment tool, issue a single command, and prepare your image, very simple steps, you can also add some file manager to make things easier, and a batch script ready to receive a single parameter indicating your OS drive, and it will start restoring the install.wim.

I used to do this on DVD's in an old job I had,I was asking because I didn't know if this method supported UEFI booting and the max file size for ISO+UDF image, well, seems to be larger than BR media.

Keep up the good work!

thanks a lot for confirming the method works fine for you, too :) multiple hdd failures in a year? the quality of hdd's these days are really questionable. multiple backups are really essential :/

yes, there are many ways to use .wim file.

uefi booting should work for windows 7/8.x, provided that all the basic prerequisites are fulfilled, and the machine bios supports it, regardless of source media. however, different manufacturers implement uefi in different ways. that's why i use usb stick as the install medium, so that i can made changes here and there on the fly.

tower42
12-01-2014, 06:43 PM
if your current windows is w7/8, advanced tokens manager can be used to back up and restore activation tokens. this is at least true if you swap the hdd with ssd only, without any other hardware changes.



Its windows 7. I plan on swapping out the old traditional HHD with the SSD, THEN use the old HDD as my data drive, removing all of the old windows files.

I am also going to up my ram from 8 to 16, but I will do later after i get the system stable.

Thanks for the help rewben.

rewben
12-02-2014, 05:26 AM
Its windows 7. I plan on swapping out the old traditional HHD with the SSD, THEN use the old HDD as my data drive, removing all of the old windows files.

I am also going to up my ram from 8 to 16, but I will do later after i get the system stable.

Thanks for the help rewben.

no problem. you are all good to go hehe

ssd is the single most important upgrade for our machines imo. the apparent bottleneck for systems today is hdd as a boot drive.

tower42
12-03-2014, 01:01 PM
no problem. you are all good to go hehe

ssd is the single most important upgrade for our machines imo. the apparent bottleneck for systems today is hdd as a boot drive.

So I was reading over the original posts from this thread, and I had a question; so install the drive in the secondary bay then upgrade the firmware for the drive. Once done I then will run the Advanced Token Manager so that I can keep my current key for W7. I pop the new SSD in the primary bay leaving the old one out for the moment, doing the clean install of W7. My question is after going to the website for Advanced Token Manager and reading the basic info from the site, is it run off of a USB stick? If I run ATM to back everything up and its on the old HHD, how can I use it to restore my Key when the HHD is no longer installed? What Am I missing in the steps?

Thanks for the continued help!

rewben
12-03-2014, 04:17 PM
So I was reading over the original posts from this thread, and I had a question; so install the drive in the secondary bay then upgrade the firmware for the drive. Once done I then will run the Advanced Token Manager so that I can keep my current key for W7. I pop the new SSD in the primary bay leaving the old one out for the moment, doing the clean install of W7. My question is after going to the website for Advanced Token Manager and reading the basic info from the site, is it run off of a USB stick? If I run ATM to back everything up and its on the old HHD, how can I use it to restore my Key when the HHD is no longer installed? What Am I missing in the steps?

Thanks for the continued help!

you should run atm in your current windows prior to the upgrade. just extract the app and run it, save the app and data generated in an external storage like usb stick.

after the fresh install, with all drivers are installed properly, use the app to restore the tokens. (it's best to disconnect from network before the restore)

there is another tool posted by our member here (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?40030-ASUS-OEM-License-Restorer-%28Win7%29). you can try it out also. (imo it's safer to save the activation tokens with atm also for backup purposes)

guo1d
01-28-2015, 10:49 PM
Hi rewben,

Thanks so much for the guide.

I'm wondering is it possible to replace optical drive with a 2nd identical SSD to enable RAID 0 ? Compare to mSATA it is easier that doesn't need to tear the whole machine apart


Regards

rewben
02-03-2015, 07:48 PM
Hi rewben,

Thanks so much for the guide.

I'm wondering is it possible to replace optical drive with a 2nd identical SSD to enable RAID 0 ? Compare to mSATA it is easier that doesn't need to tear the whole machine apart


Regards

i'm afraid you cannot do that. the sata port for optical drive is sata2, not sata3. i was hoping for the same but no luck.

Mcblazer0
06-10-2015, 01:35 AM
Hi;

I don't mean to be a pain. I was wondering if the file names for the BIOS on C:\ could reflect their version and if there could be more than one on C:\?

Example;

C:\ G75VX201.BIN

C:\G75VXAS206.BIN

Clintlgm
06-10-2015, 02:55 AM
I'm not sure about this but I think you can use the 201 or 206, but the file on the root drive needs to be G75VX.bin So you can rename any of them to G75VX, Hopefully some one else will jump in on this I'm pretty sure it going to be looking for G75VX.bin