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Fabby
03-03-2013, 07:23 PM
Hi, I've been doing lots of research online and have found this version of laptops provides:

The best looking
The best quality
For the best value

However I'm unable to spend much more time comparing and contrasting without getting my hands on them myself, so I ask you guys; what should I get?

I have around $1500 to spend and am looking to play online gaming. An SSD is preferable and obviously performance and graphics are paramount. I've played with Windows 8 and am not too keen so maybe a Windows 7 OS? I have plenty of external HDD space for other bits and bobs like pictures, movies and music so I'm not overly fussed on the size of the SSD.

rewben
03-03-2013, 07:42 PM
hey @Fabby,welcome to the forum :)

my suggestion to you is g75vx:

1. yes ssd is a must-have for a g-series; 256gb is the sweet spot for now;
2. g75vx comes with w8; initially for a week or two i needed something like classic shell; however after a month or two, i am getting rid of the 'start-button' habit; once you know how to play with the metro ui, it's actually not that bad (combined with win keys like win+x; win+i);
3. it has thunderbolt port (well normally it should have one; check out the thunderbolt sticker to confirm). the good thing about thunderbolt is that external gpu can be used to remove the limit of the internal gpu when it aged.

Fabby
03-03-2013, 08:03 PM
A quick search threw up this, which would be ideal?

http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G75VW-AS71-17-3-Inch-Gaming/dp/B007MW73C2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1362340980&sr=8-3&keywords=g75vx

bignazpwns
03-03-2013, 08:41 PM
Well what games do you play? I mean You can get a VX for $1250 howver for $1500 you get into the price range of GTX 680m's and HD 7980's.

The VX for $1250 is not a killer deal its more or less priced right how it sould be priced. You can find cheaper systems that are over all better "MXM cards, more ports, better displays"


I wold not get the VW. Its over prived and under speced. For the same price you can get a GTX 670mx and i7 3630qm that stomps on what the VW has The GTX 670MX is much faster and when overclocking you can get close to GTX 680m performance out of it.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+17.3%22+Laptop+-+8GB+Memory+-+1TB+Hard+Drive+-+Black/7674057.p;jsessionid=B6CC7B0F23E6E1C15340876001DAB D2C.bbolsp-app02-125?id=1218858193064&skuId=7674057&st=G75VX&cp=1&lp=1


You do not need more then 8gigs of ram for gaming. Anything more is just for your emepn. The only time you need more then 8 gigs is for photoshop or cad type stuff.

The stock drive is very slow but not all that much slower then a new SSD. Example that 5,300 rpm drive loads wow 6 sec slower then my Intel 520.

For a SSD go with the Intel 520. Rock solid. Intel test all their firmware in house. The drive has a sandforce controller so you get the speed but also get the intel reliability. If you want to go cheaper the Kingston HyperX 3k's are very fast and very cheap and i used them and they worked really nice. Faster then my Samsung 830's.

Dont raid your SSD's. You wont see a diff. in preformance vs a single SSD outside of benchmarks or xfering massive files. And your windows boot time will slow down since it will now have to load intel raid drive before loading the os.

IF you are looking at a Asus G series anything more then $1300 look at another brand like Sager or MSI. Anything above $1,1100 better be a VX with a GTX 670mx. If you want a VW its not worth more then $900-$1000 because of the GTX 660m the 670MX is just much faster.

Fabby
03-03-2013, 08:47 PM
Thanks for the reply, I normally play COD or MMOs like SWTOR. For a long time I've been having low FPS on the lowest settings and it's really starting to bug me. So pretty much something that can play them on the higher settings with a decent FPS is what I am after. I dont bother with rendering or photoshop personally. I could push to $1,500 if needs be but I'm pretty vain and I'd like something that looks good too!

bignazpwns
03-03-2013, 09:08 PM
Well i think the Sager NP9170 looks good to me lol. $1500 will get you more powers. better qualty over all for the system. better backlight on the kb. more ports, better display and a GTX 675MX. Honestly after you handle a system like a Sager the G series feels very low end and the plastic feels cheap.

But it looks like you like the look of the G75's and i can get that. The G75VX from best buy should fit you nice. Spend $1250 on that then your other $250 on this SSD. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147193. If tax is pushing you ovr go with this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147192 that will keep you on budget. But remember dont get the normal 840's they are turds get the pro's.

Vicodin
03-03-2013, 09:16 PM
If you are going to go with a 17 inch model definitely go with the G75vx over the G75vw. It would not even make sense to buy a G75vw with the Nvidia 670m over a G75vx with the Nvidia 670mx at this point. On another note, if you would like something smaller and more portable, you can grab a G55vw for $1200 on newegg leaving you 300 for a nice ssd.

bignazpwns
03-03-2013, 10:06 PM
If you are going to go with a 17 inch model definitely go with the G75vx over the G75vw. It would not even make sense to buy a G75vw with the Nvidia 670m over a G75vx with the Nvidia 670mx at this point. On another note, if you would like something smaller and more portable, you can grab a G55vw for $1200 on newegg leaving you 300 for a nice ssd.

If hes going to go 15 inch i can name 3 systems off the top of my head that are cheaper and much faster. One of them being a Lenovo Y500 for $899 with a 3230M( and SLI'ed GT 650m's or for $1044 with a 3630QM 8 gigs of ram and slied GT 650m's.


GT 650m = GTX 660m. They are the same card as long as its the GT 650m with DDR5. And 2 of them in SLI should give you close to stock GTX 670m performance. All of that in a nice looking 15 inch laptop with a 1080p screen for under $1200. Cant beat it.

Fabby
03-04-2013, 08:54 AM
I'm after a 17 inch prefereably, bigger is better! I may just buy the better system now, then buy a decent SSD the next month. I'm away with work at the moment anyway so will be playing offline games.

Looking at the VX as the most potential buy, with the 675mx and 8Gb of RAM. Just need to find the best website for it now.

It should play SWTOR on high graphics with 4 x AA right?

rewben
03-04-2013, 09:02 AM
note that vx has a 670mx, not 675mx.

bignazpwns
03-04-2013, 10:38 AM
The VX will play it fine. Asus will never use more then a midend card. So you will never see a GTX 675m MX or 680m or MX. If you want a gtx 675mx pick up a MSI or sager.

rewben
03-04-2013, 12:57 PM
damn (http://www.monsternotebook.com.tr/monster-notebook.html?opf=p1415&opr=5055).. time flies :)

pathfindercod
03-04-2013, 03:45 PM
To add to this my personal recent take. I have a MSI GT70 Dragon Edition and a Asus G75VX. Honestly playing hours of BF3 with the 670mx in the g75vx I am happy with the G75vx and sending the MSI back. The 680 is the top end card but it was not fast enough to justify the price difference. I overclocked the 670mx +100 core and +1xx on the ram cant remember for 48 hours and left BF3 running on my 64 player server and played on and off for two days trying to fully test this machine out before deciding which one to keep. The GPU never went over 60celcius and averaged 58.

Now yes the MSi is flashier, keyboard is AWESOME, the super raid0 is like no other (blistering fast). If this was my main PC and I wasn't using a desktop as my main gaming machine i would stick with the MSI. The Asus plays my games exceptionally well and was $2k less.. I use it for traveling and occasional couch playing.

rewben
03-04-2013, 04:00 PM
that's what c_man and some friends always tried to tell us. there are simply too many physical limitations as a laptop to bring out the performance of top cards; i rather spend more to build a custom rig than to throw it into one laptop that will age in a year or two.

bignazpwns
03-04-2013, 09:52 PM
that's what c_man and some friends always tried to tell us. there are simply too many physical limitations as a laptop to bring out the performance of top cards; i rather spend more to build a custom rig than to throw it into one laptop that will age in a year or two.

Not even that. They could get the G75 up to support a GTX 680M pretty easy. Its just then they turn that $1250 laptop to a $2250 system that when you compare it to other laptops for that price it is a steaming pile of doo doo. They don't try and put the higher end cards in because they can not compete with the competition in that bracket. I mean they can barely compete as it is now . Let alone with real gaming systems in the $2200 price range. $2150 gets you a Sager NP9170 with 8 gigs of ram, 4 gb GTX 680M, i7-3840QM. Or $2349 gets you a sager with a i7-3930K "6 core 12 thread monster" GTX 675MX and 8gigs of ram. As you can see the $2200-$2300 market is pretty strong and Asus just cant compete.

rewben
03-05-2013, 05:50 AM
Not even that. They could get the G75 up to support a GTX 680M pretty easy. Its just then they turn that $1250 laptop to a $2250 system that when you compare it to other laptops for that price it is a steaming pile of doo doo. They don't try and put the higher end cards in because they can not compete with the competition in that bracket. I mean they can barely compete as it is now . Let alone with real gaming systems in the $2200 price range. $2150 gets you a Sager NP9170 with 8 gigs of ram, 4 gb GTX 680M, i7-3840QM. Or $2349 gets you a sager with a i7-3930K "6 core 12 thread monster" GTX 675MX and 8gigs of ram. As you can see the $2200-$2300 market is pretty strong and Asus just cant compete.

yeah that's true; with that price range we can get better components from other brands. like i said, if i wanna spend that much, i think i will spend on a desktop :) i am poor haha!

Fabby
03-05-2013, 06:48 PM
After doing a lot of reading and looking at all of your threads (thanks to all that replied, it 100% added up to what I was looking for in this forum!) I'm going to go with a VX and supply an SSD with it. As I cannot justify the (awesome and beautiful) higher end laptops when I'm a between casual and hardcore gamer (4-5 hours a week). So I can play my games on a decent amount of graphics and with a nice large display to go with it.

My current laptop (HP pavilion G6, 8Gb RAM AMD E2) just simply cannot cope with even showing as much of the websites I want to see so is very frustrating.

Thanks again for all your input guys, my order will be placed soon ;)

Pitcher@asus
03-06-2013, 03:24 AM
you can visit asus website to find what is spec you needed, i think it is wolud be better for you.