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Ztrust
04-28-2013, 10:58 AM
Hi People first post here
so i got my G75vw 4 months ago with pre windows 8 and finally the other day i had enough and desided to install my old windows 7 so i read the guides on this site and changed the bios "secure boot off" "launch csm?" so i pop in my windows 7 and boot and for some reason i hit format on the system drive only to find i cant install windows 7 on any partition and i can not restore using restore partition and have no restore disk. so in my panic i change bios settings here and there to no awail ( wich i havent upgraded a little affraid of bios)
so i go online to see why i cant install my windows 7 and it has to do with gpt partitions and such so on to this site to find what to do found a thread that said delete all partitions so i did and then i installed windows 7 but no drivers nothing where installed since no internet adaptor was found but downloaded it and am up and running but it dosent feel like its running as smooth as before and booting is very slov.

ok that was the back story this is what i would like help with.
WICH DRIVERS DO I ACTUALLY NEED ?
I want the features off the pc but not the bloat ware ?
and for internet there are both atehros and intel drivers i have downloaded atehros but do i need the intell ones 2?
I am currently working on making a custom windows 7 iso with the drivers and everything for this machine so i dont have to downbload net drivers from another pc next time it goes wrong
And if someone would be so kind as to tell me what my bios setting should look like for a pc running windows 7 and should i update my bios
I hope some of you experts can help me
Noob gamer Ztrust

rewben
04-28-2013, 01:44 PM
i think @bjurn wrote a nice guide here (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?29983-Clean-Windows-7-on-Asus-G75VX-%28Win8-pre-installed%29). there should be a driver cd/dvd that comes with the laptop; usually you can use those (at least to get the ethernet or wifi to work first). you can look for the latest ones at asus support site (http://www.asus.com/support/), or download section of this page (http://rog.asus.com/notebook/17-inch/g75vw/).

the reason why w7 is 'slower' than w8 might have something to do with fast startup (the hybrid boot that can only be found in w8).

by doing a clean install, you practically remove all the bloatwares. check your device manager for your ethernet and wifi adapter (i.e. hardware id's).

if you had no problem with your laptop previously, there is no need for bios upgrade.

Ztrust
04-28-2013, 03:16 PM
hey rewben (andomeda?)
I did read bjurn guide and follewed it but since mine wasent a new hard drive i had all does win 8 stock partions. and the cd i got only works for windows 8 so cant use that and the problem with the net drivers is no adaptor detected so no internet on clean install ?

Ztrust
04-29-2013, 11:26 AM
well i have installed windows 7 and i bet i can do it again but i have no uefi boot option in bios ?
i have heard it mentioned here on the site what it is ?

Matrix Leader
04-29-2013, 11:37 AM
well i have installed windows 7 and i bet i can do it again but i have no uefi boot option in bios ?
i have heard it mentioned here on the site what it is ?

In the older BIOS versions, there was an option to enable/disable UEFI boot where it was enabled by default. But if you have a recent BIOS then that option is gone, the way it works now is...

When you insert the Windows 7 DVD, an entry is automatically created in the boot mentu that says UEFI: MAT$HITA (your BD-Rom Drive) so if you boot that way, Windows 7 will not allow you to install unless you delete all your partitions and create them from fresh where it will make them GPT disks.

The way around this is, insert the Windows 7 DVD, and reboot your computer, then enter BIOS immediately and go to the boot mentu, and disable / delete the UEFI Boot: BD-ROM and set your first boot device to MAT$HITA only and second boot device to your SSD or HDD, that way Windows 7 setup will boot in normal mode not in UEFI mode and it will allow you to install normally on a non GPT partition or if you partition with it this time it will create a basic MBR disk and not a GPT partition.

Ztrust
04-29-2013, 11:52 AM
hey Danishkid thanks for the reply wish i had before my first attemt read the guide you linked to why that order for drivers ?
and i am affraid in my attemt to fix something i new nothing about i might have changed something i shouldent can i reset my bios to factory defaults im affraid i might have deleted some boot options or something. i have tried restore default but dosent do much

Matrix Leader
04-29-2013, 12:06 PM
hey Danishkid thanks for the reply wish i had before my first attemt read the guide you linked to why that order for drivers ?
and i am affraid in my attemt to fix something i new nothing about i might have changed something i shouldent can i reset my bios to factory defaults im affraid i might have deleted some boot options or something. i have tried restore default but dosent do much

The order of driver installation is what most laptop manufacturers use and it makes sense.

Let's say you install the USB 3.0 drivers right....then you install the Intel Chipset Drivers....the Intel Chipset Drivers will then overwrite the optimized USB 3.0 driver and install its own basic USB driver.

Same thing with IRST, for example, if you install IRST first, then install the Intel Chipset Drivers, the Intel Chipset Drivers will update the IRST (SATA / IDA Controller) driver with its own, so it doesn't make sense

the order is there for a reason

last example, one time I was trying to download the Bluetooth Driver and it said underneath it (make sure the ATK package is installed), hence, I placed the ATK package installation before the bluetooth driver

everything is there for a reason :)

Ztrust
04-29-2013, 12:31 PM
Thank you will remember that for when i get my hybrid disk tomorrow ;)

Matrix Leader
04-29-2013, 12:40 PM
My pleasure

Ztrust
04-29-2013, 04:18 PM
hey again hope you can help me again.
i am making a dedicated install disc for (g75vw) with all drivers so i will have internet from the start up next time i have problems but i cant tell the disc to restart twice after an install so is it better to leave that driver out and uinstall it manually after all other or install it and no double reboot

Matrix Leader
04-29-2013, 04:26 PM
I was with you on the same page but the moment you started typing: so is it better to leave the driver out.......

I lost you..

please re-type it in proper english

Ztrust
04-29-2013, 05:59 PM
ok Here we go First of thanks for the help :o
and i will try to take my time to ask my question.
im am trying to create an install disk using rt7lite and i can add my drivers by adding the driver inf files but other then that i have no control over it. Over at the install guide it said to reboot twice after a certain driver install and since i wont be able to that is it better to leave it out and then install it later ?
now just comes to find all the correct inf files ;(

Matrix Leader
04-29-2013, 06:14 PM
ok Here we go First of thanks for the help :o
and i will try to take my time to ask my question.
im am trying to create an install disk using rt7lite and i can add my drivers by adding the driver inf files but other then that i have no control over it. Over at the install guide it said to reboot twice after a certain driver install and since i wont be able to that is it better to leave it out and then install it later ?
now just comes to find all the correct inf files ;(

ahh now I understand you sorry I didn't mean to be rude.

Well, my experience with RT7Lite wasn't good I tried to integrate Windows updates and it said that the integration was ok but after I installed Windows those updates weren't there and I had to reinstall them. If I were you I would just install Windows, set all my folders and settings, then take an image using Acronis True Image

Then I would install all the drivers...

it is vital to reboot twice for the IRST driver...reason is...

1) You install the IRST Driver >>> Reboot

2) After you reboot into Windows, Windows will reinstall the drivers for your HDD/SSD and all other drives again such as the BD-Rom as they now use a different SATA/IDE controller which is the IRST driver

3) that's when you do the 2nd reboot

4) then continue to install other drivers.



** Also, it is recommended to install the Intel Chipset Drivers FIRST thing before any other driver using the -overall -overide command (if you dont know how to do that ask and I will tell u to ensure the complete installation of the chipset drivers and not only missing components that Windows didn't detect

If the Intel Chipset drivers were installed AFTER the IRST and after the USB 3.0 drivers, then the intel chipset drivers will override those IRST and USB driver with its own defeating the whole purpose. that is why there is a certain order of installing drivers

Even if you insert your ASUS driver CD (I don't know if you have one but I got one with my G75VW), it installs each driver then reboots and in a certain order)

you can't just slap on all the drivers at once, at least how I as a system tweak and drivers specialist take it

Ztrust
04-29-2013, 07:04 PM
Damn your fast. and you werent rude i am sometimes in a hurry and think because i can understand my babble others can too ;)

well the reason i wanna do this is because for some reason once you have installed windows 7 (and i have never seen this before) you have no internet no drivers no aero no nothing and have to find the net drivers somewhere else before you can start to get your updates andd whatnot. so next time i have to reinstall i have to start over again but i found a way around the inf problem. and i have the asus dvd but it only works for windows 8 for some reason and i did install the chipset first but the order of all the other drivers where as i found them on asus site. but i have not heard of the -overall -overide command i would be very happy to hear how to do this. ?
And can i ask you about the bios again if it possible to factory reset it read something about a modifier key and home but cant find the thread again

And p.s I am gonna have a lot of questions for you in the future. I can buy you a beer at one point if you ever stop by Aarhus ;D