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ForCeV
07-07-2013, 12:58 PM
Recently, Asus has released new 4th generation laptop with 770m line up ( I don't see below spec like 765m)

As you know that gtx670m has fermi.... which is overclocking spec of 570m....

and after 6month , gtx670mx has released... and it is 20% over power than 670m.....

I thought I ve bought wrong version machine this year.... and now... another new version has come..

Actually, I want to buy new one...but I knew that g750 is stock CPU.. and can't be changed.. also GPU(we already know)...

The design cooling system noise part is all great . (I love Asus on this part)

but specification or standard Asus launching plan is disappointed part....

Well... I 'd like to ask everybody who use g75vw.

r u gonna sell G75vw??

ps.) I m worried that gtx670m might not run bf4 easily....

Sadler13
07-07-2013, 01:19 PM
I have the G75Vw and I just installed the 670M GPU after using the 660M for over a year.
The G75 is pretty easy upgradeable, (I could even put in the 670mx with a new vbios)
Even CPU you can upgrade. I have the i7-3610QM (first model released in that series).
I plan on putting in the i7-3840QM.

The new G750 I don't think is all that and not worth the upgrade and spending the money just yet.

After the release of new games you typically have to wait for good driver updates if the game does
not play at optimal performance but I don't ever see them releasing a game that a 2yr old system cant
handle...We are not all made of money and cant always have the most recent systems as they are super $$$$$ and I think
for the most part developers consider that.
So for me NO I'm not going to get a new system for another 2yrs and I still expect my G75 to run every game at
optimal settings.

ForCeV
07-07-2013, 02:00 PM
Wow. That's another good news.!!! well.. I really want to hear that somebody have tried to upgrade a gpu card..no matter what is 660m to 670m or 670m to 670mx(hopefully)

do you have a link where to see a disassembly g75vw model?? and I really want to put thermal paste on my laptop.... but for doing this, I need to take off a keyboard?? I opened a back cover before, but I couldn't see any heat pipe line or cpu and gpu...

I guess it has positioned to the back side.. which means I should take off a keyboard... (then will see??)

well.. then it might be possible to upgrade gtx670mx if it support vbios on it??

because I heard that 670mx card can be overclocking to similar performance like 680m. (670mx card's 3d mark 11 can be reached 5100)

Well!!! I wish we had a good news!!!.

PS) asus has custom form factor isn't it??, how did you buy 670m?? is clevo 670m version possible??

nirO
07-07-2013, 02:18 PM
here is a teardown video of a g75vw .. and yeah petty much u have to open it all for a repaste.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9KHrJKInmA




and btw.. not i`m not going to buy every few months new parts or new models that are 1500euros(mine was that much in november) or more... i should be able to play any game for another 1-2 years with at least medium settings if not high and thats fine with me.. unless u are millionare to buy every few months newest models... lol

Clintlgm
07-07-2013, 03:18 PM
Mine is a year old this month, I have no plans to replace it for at least another 2 years. I don't really see anything in the current G750 to put out that kind of money. Once they release the G750 JH that may not hold for some people. The GTX 780 GPU may make it worth while for some people.

Sadler13
07-07-2013, 03:55 PM
Wow. That's another good news.!!! well.. I really want to hear that somebody have tried to upgrade a gpu card..no matter what is 660m to 670m or 670m to 670mx(hopefully)

do you have a link where to see a disassembly g75vw model?? and I really want to put thermal paste on my laptop.... but for doing this, I need to take off a keyboard?? I opened a back cover before, but I couldn't see any heat pipe line or cpu and gpu...

I guess it has positioned to the back side.. which means I should take off a keyboard... (then will see??)

well.. then it might be possible to upgrade gtx670mx if it support vbios on it??

because I heard that 670mx card can be overclocking to similar performance like 680m. (670mx card's 3d mark 11 can be reached 5100)

Well!!! I wish we had a good news!!!.

PS) asus has custom form factor isn't it??, how did you buy 670m?? is clevo 670m version possible??

I went to ebay and purchased my 670M there and also had to purchase the Heat sink, 660m and 670m Heat sinks are not alike.
I used IC Diamond thermal paste also.

I asked Dreamonic about this and this is what he said....

Hey Jon,

1-Yes. The 670M is about 15-22% better than the 660M when both cards are overclocked. Basically since the 670M is 192bit, it can handle the 1080p resolution with more eye candy enabled compared to what most 128bit cards experience with at 1080p resolution. Is it more future proof however? Probably not. If you could get your hands on the 670MX and heat sink, that would be ideal, but they are harder to come by online unless purchased directly through ASUS; Usually at a higher premium. The 660M with a high overclock of 1350 on the core, will yield 3800+ on 3DMARK11. The 670M with a high overclock will yield around 4200+ but also 1200+ more on the combined test. The increase in memory bandwidth compared to the 660M is worth it for sure. Just remember that the 670M will run warmer on load so your overclocking room won't be near as high.

2-This is entirely up to you. I chose to go with MX-4 because I've been using the MX series for quite some time with previous NB's and I found with its thermal cycling abilities, it maintained shape and consistency longer. Paste is paste however, but just keep in mind that everyone has a preference, there really is no wrong or right here, unless you use toothpaste!

3-No, the VW models (all of them) have the 660m vBIOS and the 670m vBIOS. So replacing cards is just that. The 670MX however, requires the vBIOS to be inserted for the VW models.

4-This is a confusing area for most people, so I will elaborate. The fan speed and temp parameters are shared among the EC_SC data to the vBIOS data. There is an algorithm used in the vBIOS that is shared with the EC_SC sensors for fan speeds based on the thermal readings it receives from those sensors, that's it! I would recommend not updating your BIOS past .210 or .218 if that is what your machine came with from the factory. The reason being is that updating your BIOS for the sake of it being "newer" is foolish if your system is already running great with its current version. Proper troubleshooting is mandatory when exchanging hardware around, so one step at a time during this process.

5-I didn't need thermal pads when I repasted. The pads themselves are no more thicker than if you were to spot apply paste in replace. If you choose to use thermal pads however, 1mm is what you want. I personally would suggest just pasting it all so as long as you spot apply everything with the right size of bead in all the places the pads were used on. Everyone's results will vary, it's the nature of binning. Make sure to leave the protected film cover on if it is present around your cards GPU (it protects the transistors during paste removal and slight vibrations and expansions/contractions of the PCB.)


Enjoy!

Sadler13
07-07-2013, 04:03 PM
This 670m is running awesome and I have had no issues at ALL with it, I do see a bigger performance gain!
I am using the 320.49 (Beta) driver and I have had no issues at all.
Temps seem to run cooler than the 660m did but maybe it just needed repasted...?
Also I have another post about the New Intel wifi AC adapter release that we can now use in the G75, Win8 driver has only been released so far
but Win7 driver should be out soon I hope.

somejoshdude
07-14-2013, 08:10 AM
Just an FYI. The 670MX can be overclocked to 680M STOCK speeds but can get very warm. Mine was clocked to 1000 gpu core using a volt mod and obtained a 6100 in 3dMark 11 (I actually achieved 6390 total but was pushing 1070 on core and 83C~).

However, hitting 5400 can be done on stock volts for most GTX 670MX cards and usually stays below 65C-75C under full load and under several hours of continuous game play.