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Pitcher
09-22-2013, 07:00 PM
Do not be scared because of the post hmscott has made here, it is only his experience on his system. He made a general post saying that BIOS 208 causes the mouse to become jerky which is so NOT TRUE

hmscott is the only person facing this mouse jerkiness problem.

I upgraded to the 208 BIOS as soon as it was out and there is no mouse jerkiness AT ALL. I am using a Logitech Anywhere MX Wireless mouse.

Bear in mind that I use Windows 8.1 with update drivers such as:

Intel Chipset Drivers 9.4.0.1026
Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver 12.8.0.1016
Intel Management Engine Interface 9.5.10.1550
nVIDIA GeForce Drivers 327.23
Realtek Audio Driver 6.0.1.6976
Atheros AR9485 WLAN Driver 10.0.0.261
Atheros AR8171 LAN Driver 2.1.0.21
Atheros Bluetooth Driver 8.0.0.230
Power4Gear Hybrid Utility 3.0.5

On AC Power the CPU Speed is: 3.27 GHz. to 3.4 GHz depending on the CPU load
On Batteru Power the CPU Speed is: Drop to 0.77 GHz. automatically because the Power4Gear Hybrid automatically switches the plan to Power Saving, but when I manually change the plan to Performance by pressing FN + Spacebar, the CPU speed jumps up to the same 3.27 GHz. to 3.4 GHz

Flea0
09-22-2013, 07:39 PM
can anyone else confirm the lack of issues with bios 208?

BlapX
09-22-2013, 07:45 PM
Yea im looking at it right now, off the A/C its not coming above the 0,77Ghz, even if i change to high performance, and then back to energy saving. Its running on 0,77Ghz.. and with A/C its at 3,27ghz (high performance then)

So install this update then i guess? Hmm now i think i need this aswell.

Flea0
09-22-2013, 07:56 PM
welp, after reading the other thread I updated to the new bios and I'm getting the full cheeseburger from the cpu now if I set power4gear to "performance" when on battery. What I immediately noticed was that webpage scrolling is buttersmooth again, just like on AC.

Pitcher
09-22-2013, 08:00 PM
welp, after reading the other thread I updated to the new bios and I'm getting the full cheeseburger from the cpu now if I set power4gear to "performance" when on battery. What I immediately noticed was that webpage scrolling is buttersmooth again, just like on AC.

yup! that's what I'm talking about!

That guy hmscott is spreading wrong information across the forums with his system's issue! this BIOS is the best thing that happened to this laptop

kingfish
09-22-2013, 08:10 PM
just updated mine and happy :)

hmscott
09-22-2013, 08:19 PM
yup! that's what I'm talking about!
That guy hmscott is spreading wrong information across the forums with his system's issue! this BIOS is the best thing that happened to this laptop

Pitcher, please do share whatever you discover about BIOS 208, but please don't call me out as giving out bad information, when you might be doing that yourself by not adequately stressing the CPU with your usage / tests to see problems.

I posted the details of the problem I am seeing, including the download link so you can test it yourself. Please recreate the testing I did and documented in my posts. And, let us know what you see.

I recreated tests by other users, and found they didn't stress the CPU the same way. Single-threaded tests, and tests that don't stress the CPU the way that Prime95 does don't produce the load necessary to cause the lag.

By using ThrottleStop to set the CPU during the times of lag on BIOS 208 the lag goes away, so there is additional tuning that could be done to BIOS 208 to improve performance.

And, I have suggested in a few posts that you can always back up to BIOS 207 if your usage on BIOS 208 isn't satisfactory, so there is no reason not to try BIOS 208 for your own usage.

BlapX
09-22-2013, 08:33 PM
Yea the Bios is working fine now, just updated to 208. Thanks Asus.

Pitcher
09-22-2013, 08:35 PM
Pitcher, please do share whatever you discover about BIOS 208, but please don't call me out as giving out bad information, when you might be doing that yourself by not adequately stressing the CPU with your usage / tests to see problems.

I posted the details of the problem I am seeing, including the download link so you can test it yourself. Please recreate the testing I did and documented in my posts. And, let us know what you see.

I recreated tests by other users, and found they didn't stress the CPU the same way. Single-threaded tests, and tests that don't stress the CPU the way that Prime95 does don't produce the load necessary to cause the lag.

By using ThrottleStop to set the CPU during the times of lag on BIOS 208 the lag goes away, so there is additional tuning that could be done to BIOS 208 to improve performance.

And, I have suggested in a few posts that you can always back up to BIOS 207 if your usage on BIOS 208 isn't satisfactory for your usage, so there is no reason not to try BIOS 208 for your own usage.

strange how everyone else is having great results except you bro.

no offense meant in my post

but maybe try a clean install with the latest drivers im sure ull get better results

jsarver
09-22-2013, 08:58 PM
I tried downloading the update but the file name is incorrect. How do I get around this or find the correct file name

hmscott
09-22-2013, 08:58 PM
strange how everyone else is having great results except you bro.
no offense meant in my post
but maybe try a clean install with the latest drivers im sure ull get better results

It's ok, no offense taken, and I am always open to criticism, so keep it coming :)

To put your mind at ease about whether I have a crappy system or not, here are my 3dmark and 3dmark11 scores online, all the highest for a GTX770m/i7-4700HQ. The system is purring like a kitten ;)

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7147510

http://www.3dmark.com/is/871697

http://www.3dmark.com/cg/776752

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/855082

Please download the Prime95 app, and fire it up with 8 threads of "In place large FFT's (maximum heat, power consumption, some RAM tested)", and go onto battery and browse / run apps and see if you experience any mouse / keyboard lag. I could use a few more data points to see if it is just me :)

Prime95 is the stress test I default to when testing stability. Here is the download, if you want to give it a try:
http://www.mersenneforum.org/gimps/?C=M;O=D

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Pitcher
09-22-2013, 09:35 PM
It's ok, no offense taken, and I am always open to criticism, so keep it coming :)

To put your mind at ease about whether I have a crappy system or not, here are my 3dmark and 3dmark11 scores online, all the highest for a GTX770m/i7-4700HQ. The system is purring like a kitten ;)

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7147510

http://www.3dmark.com/is/871697

http://www.3dmark.com/cg/776752

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/855082

Please download the Prime95 app, and fire it up with 8 threads of "In place large FFT's (maximum heat, power consumption, some RAM tested)", and go onto battery and browse / run apps and see if you experience any mouse / keyboard lag. I could use a few more data points to see if it is just me :)

Prime95 is the stress test I default to when testing stability. Here is the download, if you want to give it a try:
http://www.mersenneforum.org/gimps/?C=M;O=D

26644

here you go bro to prove you it's only your system

PS: The reason you see the core speed @ 2.11 is normal that's because all 8 cores are working but in normal situations it's
@ 3.2 to 3.4 Ghz. and this test was done on battery power

no mouse jerkiness, i used the computer as well and browsed on Pale Moon it was smooth as usual

http://i39.tinypic.com/2rhbp8n.png

hmscott
09-22-2013, 10:04 PM
Pitcher, look at the CPU usage, it is only 88%. It needs to be in the high 90's like this:

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Which Power Plan are you running, and for the battery mode, what % CPU min/max do you have set?

When I first posted the issue, I had Power4Gear installed, but now am using the stock Balanced Plan, set at 0% min and 100% max for battery and AC.

Pitcher
09-22-2013, 10:10 PM
Pitcher, look at the CPU usage, it is only 88%. It needs to be in the high 90's like this:

26649

Which Power Plan are you running, and for the battery mode, what % CPU min/max do you have set?

When I first posted the issue, I had Power4Gear installed, but now am using the stock Balanced Plan, set at 0% min and 100% max for battery and AC.

88% and 90% is a very small difference bro

My min/max CPU Usage has always been Min = 100% and Max = 100% on the Performance Power Plan both the ASUS Performance Plan and the Windows Default Performance Plan

It has always been like this since Windows 7 and now with 8.1 is no different

By the way, the CPU usage went up more than 88% but at the instant I took the screenshot it was 88%

Another user also reported running this test with no lag, it's your system bro

hmscott
09-22-2013, 10:15 PM
88% and 90% is a very small difference bro
My min/max CPU Usage has always been Min = 100% and Max = 100% on the Performance Power Plan both the ASUS Performance Plan and the Windows Default Performance Plan
It has always been like this since Windows 7 and now with 8.1 is no different
By the way, the CPU usage went up more than 88% but at the instant I took the screenshot it was 88%
Another user also reported running this test with no lag, it's your system bro

Glad to hear it is just me, now I need to figure out what it is and solve it for myself, the rest of you can enjoy lag free operation under BIOS 208 :)

Thanks for testing, that is what it took, getting someone other than me to run the same tests and look at their results.

Pitcher
09-22-2013, 10:35 PM
Glad to hear it is just me, now I need to figure out what it is and solve it for myself, the rest of you can enjoy lag free operation under BIOS 208 :)

Thanks for testing, that is what it took, getting someone other than me to run the same tests and look at their results.

my pleasure bro, I was so waiting for this BIOS I was like checking the G750JX driver page every 30 mins since I heard it was released for the G750JW :)

Now this is good news that the issue is not in the BIOS but something in your system, try to figure it out, try what I sent you in the PM with those latest drivers trust me your laptop will become so much better

hmscott
09-22-2013, 10:55 PM
my pleasure bro, I was so waiting for this BIOS I was like checking the G750JX driver page every 30 mins since I heard it was released for the G750JW :)

Now this is good news that the issue is not in the BIOS but something in your system, try to figure it out, try what I sent you in the PM with those latest drivers trust me your laptop will become so much better

I am running fine with ThrottleStop 6.0 under 208 running at full speed 3.03Ghz at 100% usage on Battery.

The 208 BIOS is still limiting performance, and the Balanced Power Plan is doing better than the the Asus Power4Gear power plans, where I first saw the lag hit. During a 10 minute run under Balanced I only had a few instances of input lag.

During normal operation I am not seeing lag, so I will stick with 208 :)

Thanks again Pitcher!