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Malakie
09-27-2013, 05:57 AM
I have a G75vw unit and because it is kick butt, I decided to buy a second unit going with the G750jx model.

However I have noticed that Turbo Boost appears to not be working on the G750jx model. The clock never changes from the 2.4 g setting even in games. I checked the bios and all the drivers that came with the unit were pre-installed unless something is missing and not included with the unit... What am I missing? If I remember, are these units not supposed to ramp up the clock speed as needed and drop back when not? The G75vw does no problem.

Flea0
09-27-2013, 11:48 AM
it absolutely should boost up to 3.4 ghz. did you try using intel extreme tuning utility to double check?

Malakie
09-27-2013, 06:55 PM
it absolutely should boost up to 3.4 ghz. did you try using intel extreme tuning utility to double check?


Yes checked it out... it just sits and 2.4 ghz and never moves up or down.

hmscott
09-27-2013, 08:26 PM
Yes checked it out... it just sits and 2.4 ghz and never moves up or down.

Check the Control Panel => Power Options => set the power plan to Balanced and see if the CPU speed goes up - what power plan are you on when you check?

If you have the Power4Gear Hybrid package installed, and switch to Battery, the power plan will automatically switch to Power4Gear Power Saving, and that plan keeps the clock speed down hard - it will go up but takes a long time.

Normally you could also go into the BIOS and set defaults - to clear the CMOS options in case they got corrupted, but I don't think there are any settings in the BIOS for this laptop that would affect the CPU speed.

Malakie
09-27-2013, 08:43 PM
Check the Control Panel => Power Options => set the power plan to Balanced and see if the CPU speed goes up - what power plan are you on when you check?

If you have the Power4Gear Hybrid package installed, and switch to Battery, the power plan will automatically switch to Power4Gear Power Saving, and that plan keeps the clock speed down hard - it will go up but takes a long time.

Normally you could also go into the BIOS and set defaults - to clear the CMOS options in case they got corrupted, but I don't think there are any settings in the BIOS for this laptop that would affect the CPU speed.

After my last reply I took a deeper look and realized this unit has the Power4Gear running... I changed power to Windows balanced mode and it started working perfectly...

So then I tried playing with Power4Gear settings but no matter what I do, it just sits at either 2.4ghz OR 3.4ghz... It does not adapt the clock at all on this unit.

It seems to work right on my G75VW system but not on this new G750jx model.... I can get it to drop on battery mode alone in Power4Gear but that is not what I am looking for.

Basically I want the same as the first laptop... It runs at slower cycles doing mundane things but maxes out performance when I run a game or something intensive like that... and then when I exit it drops back down to lower cycles again..

Will keep trying but I cannot seem to get this working like it does on the G75vw unit.

hmscott
09-27-2013, 08:49 PM
After my last reply I took a deeper look and realized this unit has the Power4Gear running... I changed power to Windows balanced mode and it started working perfectly...

So then I tried playing with Power4Gear settings but no matter what I do, it just sits at either 2.4ghz OR 3.4ghz... It does not adapt the clock at all on this unit.

It seems to work right on my G75VW system but not on this new G750jx model.... I can get it to drop on battery mode alone in Power4Gear but that is not what I am looking for.

Basically I want the same as the first laptop... It runs at slower cycles doing mundane things but maxes out performance when I run a game or something intensive like that... and then when I exit it drops back down to lower cycles again..

Will keep trying but I cannot seem to get this working like it does on the G75vw unit.

The Power4Gear Hybird plans aren't working like normal for me either, that is why I uninstalled them. I was using them on a G750JW ok (at least I didn't have a problem at the time), but shortly after I upgraded to a JX the 208 BIOS came out and that is when I had the problem with the Power4Gear power plans - it may be that the BIOS 208 update now requires a Power4Gear update - or both need updating - to work correctly again.

Malakie
09-27-2013, 08:50 PM
The Power4Gear Hybird plans aren't working like normal for me either, that is why I uninstalled them. I was using them on a G750JW ok (at least I didn't have a problem at the time), but shortly after I upgraded to a JX the 208 BIOS came out and that is when I had the problem with the Power4Gear power plans - it may be that the BIOS 208 update now requires a Power4Gear update - or both need updating - to work correctly again.

Ahhh that would explain it then... I need to also check my BIOS because I did not know about any update... although I thought the ASUS update software was supposed to inform me.... hmm..

hmscott
09-27-2013, 08:53 PM
Ahhh that would explain it then... I need to also check my BIOS because I did not know about any update... although I thought the ASUS update software was supposed to inform me.... hmm..

There are specific new updated BIOS's for each model, make sure you get the correct one - the Winflash BIOS flash scheduler seems to catch incorrect BIOS's instead of installing them, but iftis good to provide it with the correct BIOS to begin with.

The new BIOS removes the lock at .79ghz while on battery.

cl-Albert
09-27-2013, 09:23 PM
The Power4Gear Hybird plans aren't working like normal for me either, that is why I uninstalled them. I was using them on a G750JW ok (at least I didn't have a problem at the time), but shortly after I upgraded to a JX the 208 BIOS came out and that is when I had the problem with the Power4Gear power plans - it may be that the BIOS 208 update now requires a Power4Gear update - or both need updating - to work correctly again.

It may not be necessary, but if you plan to update Power4Gear, you may also want to consider updating the ATK driver as well and I'm seeing the latest versions below on the ASUS download site for the G750JW and G750JX under the 'Utilities' section.
Yes, I'd try the latest bios first though if you don't already have it.

Power4Gear Hybrid Utility, Version V3.0.5
ATKACPI driver and hotkey-related utilities, Version V1.0.0030

hmscott
09-27-2013, 09:27 PM
It may not be necessary, but if you plan to update Power4Gear, you may also want to consider updating the ATK driver as well and I'm seeing the latest versions below on the ASUS download site for the G750JW and G750JX under the 'Utilities' section.
Yes, I'd try the latest bios first though if you don't already have it.

Power4Gear Hybrid Utility, Version V3.0.5
ATKACPI driver and hotkey-related utilities, Version V1.0.0030

I had Power4Gear Hybid Utility v3.0.5 installed - that is the one I had problems with BIOS 208 and uninstalled.

I had/have ATKACPI 1.0.0030 installed.

fab5yo
09-28-2013, 05:01 AM
Remember hmscott in the thread i started on the performance help. i said the my computer wouldn't dim or going to sleep mode after a couple on minutes of no use will i uninstelled the power4Gear and re-installed the GPU app the Intel XTU and Power4Gear and it all work perfect now. Maybe when I installed the BIOS update i had to update the power4gear also which i did and it work perfect now. i am glad i gave it another try and now G750JX is overclocked and running good . Thanks for the help everyone on ROG and especially hmscott.

hmscott
09-28-2013, 11:20 AM
Remember hmscott in the thread i started on the performance help. i said the my computer wouldn't dim or going to sleep mode after a couple on minutes of no use will i uninstelled the power4Gear and re-installed the GPU app the Intel XTU and Power4Gear and it all work perfect now. Maybe when I installed the BIOS update i had to update the power4gear also which i did and it work perfect now. i am glad i gave it another try and now G750JX is overclocked and running good . Thanks for the help everyone on ROG and especially hmscott.

Thanks for the update fab5yo :cool:

Letting others know the weird unexplainable non-logical behavior observed from Microsoft Windows is at the heart of reporting mythological behavior, kind of like spotting a Big Foot or a UFO.

When you hear it happen to others, you have to wonder why they went public and embarrassed themselves, but when it happens to you you find it difficult to suppress the urge to tell others about the Troll you saw yourself.

So, here is the Warted Dwarf I saw under similar circumstances. :)

When I updated to BIOS 208, bad USB lag (keyboard/mouse) came about when switching from Power4Gear Power Saving power plan to Power4Gear High Performance power plan while under heavy CPU load while on battery.

It was bad, really Warty, no way to avoid the connection between the BIOS 208 update and the new behavior, especially when rolling back to the BIOS 207 got rid of the problem.

And, similar to your sighting, when I uninstalled the Power4Gear Hybrid v3.0.5 package the USB lag problem almost disappeared - it went from jaw dropping to randomly intermittent with long periods of perfect behavior in between events - kinda like the Warty Troll found an Invisibility Potion and couldn't be seen without wearing a Wolfsbane hat!

It looks like the connecting factor is Power4Gear Hybrid application. I think it couples with the BIOS closer than the built-in Windows power plans, and needs to be updated for the new BIOS - another mythological sighting - I have seen BIOS updates that say "Support new power 4 gear", like this G750JW BIOS update:

Version 207

Description BIOS 207
1.Update EC firmware
2.Support new power 4 gear
File Size 2,25 (MBytes) 2013.06.05 update

Hopefully the next BIOS / Power4Gear Hybrid update will bring them in to harmony, and the world will once again be free of Trolls, Big Feet, and Warted Dwarves :)



*Apologies to the mythical world's of Tolkien and Cryptozoology