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jmhdj
10-03-2013, 03:56 PM
Hi. Hi. Just want to anounce to all that 770m upgrade on asus G73SW is possible
I am in process of instaling video driver now, will come back with benchmarks later.
Also I am pretty sure 780m upgrade is possible to. Not sure of heat problems though.
770m I installed is from Dell and vbios modding is necessary to get upgrade.

jmhdj
10-04-2013, 05:08 PM
27196

Stock clocks, 179 watt max from socket.

Zygomorphic
10-05-2013, 12:31 AM
+rep for the success. That is quite impressive. I'm curious to know the temps that you were seeing, since that too is an issue. However, the ASUS laptops have excellent cooling, so it shouldn't be an issue.

jmhdj
10-05-2013, 06:20 AM
Temps are ok. I didnt test with heavy bench tools yet but at 3dmark11 max temp was 76c.
And after 1 hour of crysis 3 at max settings max temp reached were 83c.
Also now that I upgraded to 230 watt Power supply there is no reason not to begin With overclocking :)

27221

Thanks for rep.

starforce2142
10-05-2013, 07:02 AM
27196

Stock clocks, 179 watt max from socket.

What a result! i cant believe gtx770m can score that high. :D

jmhdj
10-05-2013, 07:21 AM
What a result! i cant believe gtx770m can score that high. :D
Why not isnt 770m same as 670mx but higher clocked?

starforce2142
10-05-2013, 03:36 PM
Why not isnt 770m same as 670mx but higher clocked?

Yea, it's true. Im kinda surprised because my friend's lap (gtx770m, i7 4800) only got about 52xx in 3dmark11.

Zygomorphic
10-07-2013, 10:23 AM
Yea, it's true. Im kinda surprised because my friend's lap (gtx770m, i7 4800) only got about 52xx in 3dmark11.
Individual laptops vary, to be honest. Look at Notebookcheck.net, and you'll see that systems that look to be pretty much spec-identical score differently, even when the graphics card is the same. It has to do with optimization of the drivers, cooling (to prevent throttling during benching), and other factors outside of the user's control.

adamsyes
10-26-2013, 05:31 AM
27196

Stock clocks, 179 watt max from socket.

Very impressive

jmhdj
10-26-2013, 06:31 AM
Very impressive

Thanks. I have tested With overclocking now and score is in mid 6000 Points on 3dmark11. Its amazing for almost 3 years old Laptop.

billyray520
10-26-2013, 01:43 PM
Is the 230 Watt psu a direct fit or was there a mod involved?

jmhdj
10-26-2013, 09:22 PM
Is the 230 Watt psu a direct fit or was there a mod involved?
Hi. Yes it is. If you look closer you will se yellow Jack connector sitting on top of 230 watts charger. It is necessary as new charger has 6.5mm tip instead of 5.5mm from original one. But new connector is bit bigger itself so there is no place to fit it back in chasis if soldered to motherboard in original place. I fitted it to where tv antenna shold be back on chasis Just removed gummi plug and widened hole 1mm extra. And soldered wires to conections on motherboard and closed original hole with same gummi plug.

Sci-ops
10-26-2013, 11:15 PM
Hi Jmhdj,

Congratulations on your second GPU ugrade on the G73SW.

I have a G73SW myself, I upgraded the cpu recently to 2960XM. I would like to upgrade the GPU if I can.

You previously wrote that you invested too much time to give the VBIOS for free. Is there a way to purchase the VBIOS from you?

best regards,
Emre,

jmhdj
10-27-2013, 06:44 AM
Hi Jmhdj,

Congratulations on your second GPU ugrade on the G73SW.

I have a G73SW myself, I upgraded the cpu recently to 2960XM. I would like to upgrade the GPU if I can.

You previously wrote that you invested too much time to give the VBIOS for free. Is there a way to purchase the VBIOS from you?

best regards,
Emre,

Hi. Which vbios file you are intersted in?

Sci-ops
10-27-2013, 02:17 PM
Hi Jmhdj,

I haven't purchased my card yet but I was thinking of 770m.

best regards,
Emre,

jmhdj
10-28-2013, 07:04 AM
Ok. For small donation of 20 euro I will provide you With working vbios for 770M.

Sci-ops
10-28-2013, 08:23 AM
May I have your paypal address over PM?

best regards,

Sci-ops
10-31-2013, 06:56 PM
Jmhdj,

Can you please tell me a method for payment?

best,

coxy939
11-20-2013, 10:04 AM
Interested in knowing how to do this for my G73SW. Whats involved?

pablitopm
11-21-2013, 03:41 PM
Hey! congrats for the modding! can you please give a picture on how you put the jack? i did not understand well.

can i do something similar on my g53s? anyone knows?

Zygomorphic
11-22-2013, 01:14 AM
Jmhdj,

Can you please tell me a method for payment?

best,
Buying and selling is not allowed on this forum, thank you. Sorry I didn't catch this earlier. Asking for payment for stuff or services on here is not permissible. However, sharing information freely is fine! Thanks! :)

Pete88
12-03-2013, 11:29 PM
Hello everyone!

I recently got a g73 from a friend at a very bargain price, and since I'm a bigtime modder (with the proper guides obviously) I was wondering if someone can post the guide to exactly upgrade to the 770m and maybe CPU, Power Supply, Heatskink and all the mods to make this laptop amazing!

jmhdj
12-04-2013, 12:17 PM
Hi and welcome to asus community. I have really little time lately to do any kind of guides. Cpu Upgrade is straight forward but dont go for XM series as you wont get any turbo boost. Sbios dont support XM series atleast not fully.
Power supply is easy to as you can simple buy 180w charger from g75 series as they have same tip so you dont need to mod anything. And it is good enough as my g73sw with 2860qm cpu and 680m gpu never go over 180w in any game.
Gpu upgrade is most tricky but it is doable fisicaly With modified g7jh gpu heatsink. Vbios compatibility is only big obstacle as asus does not implement MXM standard but rather modified one for intercompatibility with their sbios.

Pete88
12-05-2013, 02:19 AM
Hi, what about the 770? Will it burn down the computer? :D

Also, is there a guide for GPU changing? At least that..

jmhdj
12-05-2013, 04:48 AM
680m is more powerfull than 770m so no it wont burn your pc. Btw i have two g73sw laptops one with 770m and second with 680m.
680m scores 2000 points more on gpu performnce than 770m in 3dmark11.

Pete88
12-05-2013, 06:29 PM
680m is more powerfull than 770m so no it wont burn your pc. Btw i have two g73sw laptops one with 770m and second with 680m.
680m scores 2000 points more on gpu performnce than 770m in 3dmark11.

eally? Wow... I didn't knew that...Thought that since 770m was newer it was better! Do you have any advice on where to buy the GPU and CPU for a really bargain price? Also, there's no guide at all to refer to on how modifiyng the heatsink and installing the 680?

jmhdj
12-05-2013, 06:56 PM
eally? Wow... I didn't knew that...Thought that since 770m was newer it was better! Do you have any advice on where to buy the GPU and CPU for a really bargain price? Also, there's no guide at all to refer to on how modifiyng the heatsink and installing the 680?

680m has 1344 shaders as oposed 960 on 770m. Laptop components are usualy not cheap and best place to watch over is ebay. There is none guides on g73sw as there is no one else besides me that succesfully upgraded to other non asus mxm cards. There is guide on upgrading older g73jh to ati 7970m it is very similar to g73sw so it can help to understand how to fit heatsink on standard mxm cards.
But all that mechanical problems are nothing compared work needed to get card recognised by system and working properly. I spend many months researching testing and failing before managing to get things work all properly. One day I will find time to make guide and post modded vbioses necessary to get cards working on g73sw.

Pete88
12-05-2013, 07:08 PM
680m has 1344 shaders as oposed 960 on 770m. Laptop components are usualy not cheap and best place to watch over is ebay. There is none guides on g73sw as there is no one else besides me that succesfully upgraded to other non asus mxm cards. There is guide on upgrading older g73jh to ati 7970m it is very similar to g73sw so it can help to understand how to fit heatsink on standard mxm cards.
But all that mechanical problems are nothing compared work needed to get card recognised by system and working properly. I spend many months researching testing and failing before managing to get things work all properly. One day I will find time to make guide and post modded vbioses necessary to get cards working on g73sw.

Ok thanks, meanwhile I'm gonna go for the CPU upgrade which is pretty simple thought!

Maxim
12-16-2013, 09:37 AM
Hello, here asked a question about the upgrade G53 SX, can someone tell me how to do it. Thank you.

jmhdj
12-16-2013, 10:15 AM
Hi. I dont think anyone can help you much with g53sx upgrade. Basicaly you should try yourself. Best bang for buck in my opinion would be 770m. But Remember heatsink and vbios compatibility is big problems.

Maxim
12-16-2013, 10:34 AM
Sorry I turned to this forum in the hope that someone can help realties. If he knew that already solved this problem.

yoshey
07-31-2014, 12:27 AM
i have orded a 780m it has a green pcb so im gessing it is a dell card am still wating for it to arrive. it do you think it may be able to flash asus 780m vbios? i have the heatsink cooling modded and ready to go (clevo hm heatsink cut to fit around g73jh heatsink & added an extra heatpipe)
any thoughts??? i will let you know when the card arrives..

jmhdj
07-31-2014, 10:20 AM
I tried once and flashed asus 780m vbios on my 680m just to se what happened and got black screen for about minute and just when I was to power off laptop gues what laptop posted and even loaded windows but clocks vere all borked ofcourse. Anyhow being that it was 680m I have big expectations that it would work with 780m. At least with minor modding to get everything works properly.
Keep us updated.

Knallebal
08-29-2014, 01:32 PM
jmhdj, I have an asus g73sw with a gtx460m in it. it has heat-problems so i want to replace it with a 770m board.
can u judge this link if it's suitable for the mod i want to do?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-770M-3GB-DDR5-MXM-3-0-Type-B-for-Clevo-Alienware-MSI-/271237279139

besides a new bios, are there any other parts i need to buy?

thanx in advance!

jmhdj
08-29-2014, 04:42 PM
Beside heatsink from older g73jh you dont need nothing more. Also you need to grind some places on new heatsink so it does not shortcut gpu board. Or you just can repaste and clean grill on 460m heatsink so you save money for new gpu.

Knallebal
08-29-2014, 06:25 PM
thanx jmhdj for the reply :o

i have 2 more questions:

what kind of thermalpaste do i need (where to buy it)
and do i need to flash my bios?

jmhdj
08-29-2014, 07:21 PM
You can use any one you prefer. Yes you must flash asus vbios to it.

Knallebal
08-29-2014, 10:25 PM
where can i get the correct bios i need for G73SW upgraded to GTX 770M ?

jmhdj
08-30-2014, 10:50 AM
I can send it to you. But first tell me what kind of vram chips is on your card?

Knallebal
08-30-2014, 11:43 PM
I can send it to you. But first tell me what kind of vram chips is on your card?

how can i find out what kind of vram chips i have?

Knallebal
08-30-2014, 11:50 PM
how can i find out what kind of vram chips i have?

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is this info enough?

jmhdj
08-30-2014, 11:57 PM
I meant when you get your 770m card. You dont need any new vbios for 460m. It is written on chips themself and its usualyeither hynix or samsung.

andy6j6
08-31-2014, 06:30 AM
oh man i wish i had the funds and the expertise to mod my g53jw, alls i want is a new Nvidia gtx 860m GPU, the 460 is amazing i can only imagine what the 860 is like

Knallebal
08-31-2014, 08:50 AM
jmhdj, i don't have it yet.
i want to make sure i will be able to get all the requirements before performing the mod.

i'm about to order a Nvidia GeForce GTX 770M 3GB DDR5 MXM 3.0 Type B for MSI Alienware on ebay
when i buy that, will i be able to do the mod?

jmhdj
08-31-2014, 10:50 AM
Yes with g73jh gpu heatsink.

Knallebal
08-31-2014, 02:22 PM
Yes with g73jh gpu heatsink.

i'm a bit confused, at the first post in this thread you stated that you needed to flash the vbios, and on page 4 you said i don't need to flash the vbios?

and i could re-use the heatsink of my G73SW gtx 460m for the new gtx 770m right?

Knallebal
08-31-2014, 02:30 PM
fyi: the 770m has just been ordered shoud be delivered in about 3 weeks

jmhdj
08-31-2014, 03:07 PM
Old heatsink can be used with old card (460m). New 770m needs heatsink from older g73jh laptop. You need new vbios for 770m but I must know what kind vram chips are on 770m first.

Knallebal
08-31-2014, 06:25 PM
Old heatsink can be used with old card (460m). New 770m needs heatsink from older g73jh laptop. You need new vbios for 770m but I must know what kind vram chips are on 770m first.

I appreciate your help!

this is what i have ordered:

Nvidia GeForce GTX 770M 3GB DDR5 MXM 3.0 Type B for MSI Alienware
(it looks they are Samsung chips)
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and this is what i'm about to order:

13GNY81AM050-1 ASUS G73JH Video Card GPU Heatsink

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is that the correct heatsink?

jmhdj
08-31-2014, 07:33 PM
Yes heatsink is correct. But you have to grind some small area to avoid shortcuting components 0n 770m. It is not big deal when you recieve both see what/where needs to be grinded off. Be very carefull to clean all grinding residue/particles to again avoid chortcuting gpu or motherboard as Banditopazzo has done here: http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?41182-G53SX-upgradable-to-a-770-or-780M&p=410137&viewfull=1#post410137

Knallebal
09-01-2014, 02:07 PM
Yes heatsink is correct. But you have to grind some small area to avoid shortcuting components 0n 770m. It is not big deal when you recieve both see what/where needs to be grinded off. Be very carefull to clean all grinding residue/particles to again avoid chortcuting gpu or motherboard as Banditopazzo has done here: http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?41182-G53SX-upgradable-to-a-770-or-780M&p=410137&viewfull=1#post410137


ah thanks!
both parts are ordered. now some shopping left for a grinder and some paste :cool:

Cyberfido
09-01-2014, 04:57 PM
Hi. Hi. Just want to anounce to all that 770m upgrade on asus G73SW is possible
I am in process of instaling video driver now, will come back with benchmarks later.
Also I am pretty sure 780m upgrade is possible to. Not sure of heat problems though.
770m I installed is from Dell and vbios modding is necessary to get upgrade.

HI, I'm just a new guy here and with an asus rog pc, I have a g73sw and a I have a 770m ready to install, I want know how you resolved the problem for the cooling system? I think that the location of gpu is little bit moved to the right.
another question, did you have any problem with bios or vbios after the installation? or just plug and play?? thanks

Cyberfido

Knallebal
09-01-2014, 09:22 PM
Cyberfido, check the last post on page 5. jmhdj posted a link with pics showing what you must grind off the chassis

jmhdj
09-01-2014, 11:23 PM
Really. You people either cant read or what!!!!

Knallebal I post link on page 5 for you to read what happens if you dont remove grinding residue. And that laptop is g53sw so he had to modify chasis to get place to fit g73jh heatsink.

Cyberfido read whole post first/again!!!


I strongly recomend both to dissengage from upgrading as it seems you have nor basic skills or understanding for this kind of project.

Knallebal
09-02-2014, 01:55 PM
no need for me to dissengage. i've been modding consoles from nintendo 8-bit, 20 years ago til Wiis, xboxes, xbox360s, ps3s and so on. BTW ps3 were the hardest to solder (before softmodding was possible).
i'm just confused by the info i get.
so.. the picture from the link that you posted on page 5 is from a G53SW? so in my case i don't have to grind off my G73SW case to use the G73jh heatsink?

jmhdj
09-02-2014, 05:09 PM
no need for me to dissengage. i've been modding consoles from nintendo 8-bit, 20 years ago til Wiis, xboxes, xbox360s, ps3s and so on. BTW ps3 were the hardest to solder (before softmodding was possible).
i'm just confused by the info i get.
so.. the picture from the link that you posted on page 5 is from a G53SW? so in my case i don't have to grind off my G73SW case to use the G73jh heatsink?

So you didnt read title of the thread I posted on page 5? Or cant distingiush difference from pictures?

Knallebal
09-02-2014, 07:13 PM
So you didnt read title of the thread I posted on page 5? Or cant distingiush difference from pictures?

Both :o i didn't read the title ( i have lysdexia), and i also didn't notice the difference between the 2 cases of a g53 and g73.
but correct me if i'm wrong, the heatsink of a g73jh (which is already ordered) can be used in a g73sw (on a gtx770m) without any grinding?

jmhdj
09-02-2014, 08:36 PM
Chasis dont need grinding but heatsink needs or it wont fitt over 770m.

Knallebal
09-03-2014, 07:59 AM
Chasis dont need grinding but heatsink needs or it wont fitt over 770m.

ok nice! the parts have been shipped. i'll just wait for them to arrive.
concerning flashing the bios, i assume the new bios has to be flashed while the old gtx460m is still mounted before powering off?
and after flashing the 460m has to be replaced by the new 770m?
when i'm finnished afterwards i will write a step-by-step guide how to do it.

Knallebal
09-13-2014, 10:02 AM
just a little update: the GTX 770m board and the thermal paste have arrived. still waiting for the heatsink to arrive.
jmhdj, can u send me the bios i need?

Knallebal
09-18-2014, 07:18 PM
some images of the 770m board i received. the memory chips look like they are Hynix
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Knallebal
09-21-2014, 07:48 PM
JMHDJ, thanx for sending the bios.
i have one more question: what's best to do flash it before changing boards of after changing boards?

Sci-ops
09-21-2014, 09:57 PM
Hi Knallebal,

That looks like a MSI 770m with Hynix Ram. I bought an identical card when I tried to do what Jmhdj did, soldering jumper wires to quickly change between vbios.

By the the way a vbios file (256KB max) goes on the graphics card with tools like nvflash and the card must be installed when you do this.

The bios file (Little more than 2MB) goes with the system bios. If you had this kind of file you could do the bios update with or without the new graphics card installed.

Wish you the best of success.

Knallebal
09-22-2014, 07:38 PM
thanx!
i thought that the vbios was located at the main systemboard in stead of on the gpu-board?
anyways, the heatsink is stil not arrived, it is taking ages. i want to give it a try do the mod with the stock G73SW heatsink.
if i compare the gtx460m board with the gtx 770m board i don't see (at first look) why the stock G73SW heatsink would not fit on the 770m board. so. i'm opening up my rog and give it a go. i'll keep you posted.

jmhdj
09-22-2014, 08:58 PM
Be very careful now!!!!! If you have studied little more carefuly then you would notice that core on 460m sitting to far to the right compared to 770m or any other standard mxm 3.0b gpu card. Dont gamble month of waiting and money spent to just burn it in smoke all literaly.

Sci-ops
09-22-2014, 09:56 PM
The thing with the JH heatsink is that more a lot more holes line up with mounting points so you have to modify less, end up with a cleaner job in a short time.

But you still need a rather solid mounting point from the chassis to the card, otherwise it's the heatsink and the mxm socket that is giving all the support. The 770m card blocks this mounting hole and there is no way to drill a hole in the card. You can use tape like others did. My thinking was I would get a strip of thick enough aluminum sheet, bend it like a "U" so it would wrap around card (without touching or shorting anything of course, covering it with non conductive tape for example, you have to be paranoid about 1-shorting 2-static electricity...) with 2 screws hole fabricated to align with the chassis and the card.

You probably know this from modifying consoles, the thing with laptops or electronics is you need to test everything, all functions before you fully assemble it back together. You may need even to change the vbios a couple of times because the fans may be at full speed or the HDMI port may not work. It's possible to brick the card in the process where you have to remove it in order to repair it.

Testing before assembly is hard to do with the G73sw because the the CPU and the GPU is on the underside of the board and if you don't finish the modified heatsink you can't have the board upside down. If you have the heatsink you can mount the board back to the chassis where it's much much safer.

jmhdj
09-22-2014, 10:16 PM
Sci-ops You talking about second screwing/mounting contact for gpu board to motherboard? One that is missing on right side?
Actualy I remember now they both are missing or what?

Sci-ops
09-22-2014, 11:51 PM
Hi Jmhdj,

Let me add some pictures. Both mounting points line up with the motherboard. Left one you can see the other side through the upper case.
Right hole is blocked by the upper case. Looking at it now it seems there was no need to fabricate brackets, one could just secure the card to the motherboard with some bolts and nylon shims.
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Knalleball, does your card have a gpu "x bracket" on the underside? Are you going to able to screw the heatsink on? Otherwise you need to order one in so you don't have to wait an extra round of shipping.

jmhdj
09-23-2014, 01:07 AM
Thats what I thought. Man just reuse mounting points that are left unused after you remove 460m. Like on the photo here. unscrew screw holding mount and carefuly wiggle point with twisers.41435
Also man you must use xbracket. Didnt you get one when you purchased 770m?

Knallebal
09-23-2014, 09:02 AM
I was halfway disasseblling last night. something came up. had to leave it.
Maybe it's better to wait for the heatsink to arrive. :)

Knallebal
09-23-2014, 01:31 PM
here's a pic of my g73sw i took last night. it doesn't look like an xbracket, more like a rectangle-bracket
where can i get an xbracket, do i need to specify a partnumber?

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jmhdj
09-23-2014, 02:21 PM
Thatthere is cpu bracket. If you are pointing at rectangular bracket above rams slots. GPU is on underside of motherboard you have to take motherboard completely out of chasis. And 460m bracket wont fit screw mounting holes are bigger and wont go through holes on 460m plus vram hetsink plates are placed different oposed to 770m.
Here's link to xbracket that you need: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GPU-Spreader-X-Bracket-screws-for-MXM-3-0b-670M-675M-580M-680M-770M-780M-880M-/151416119109?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23411a9f45

Knallebal
09-23-2014, 02:32 PM
Thanx.. i was ordering such x-bracket from the ebay link you posted, but it says: may not ship to netherlands.
i search for some nearby suppliers and found this one:

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/X-bracket-GPU-Spreader-screws-for-Nvidia-GTX-Quadro-MXM-3-0B-VGA-/301321059920?pt=DE_Elektronik_Computer_Computer_Gr aphikkarten&hash=item4628227e50

is that one same/ok? (it's from germany our neighbours :D )

jmhdj
09-23-2014, 03:02 PM
Looks like as seller noted that is for mxm 3.0b type cards.

Sci-ops
09-23-2014, 08:02 PM
There is this kind of x-bracket as well for nvidia cards. It covers the ram modules on the back of the card.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alienware-Nvidia-Video-Card-M18x-R1-R2-Heat-Sink-Spreader-680M-580M-Left-Side-/151054425650?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232b8b9e32

jmhdj
09-23-2014, 08:16 PM
Dont recomend this type atleast not on g73sw motherboard there is tight between motherboard and gpu board cause some smd parts are in way and causing card to be warped.

Knallebal
09-24-2014, 09:33 PM
i finnaly received my g73jh gpu heatsink today. unmounted the mainboard. flipped it over. removed the 460m board to see if the whole thing fits.
there's a huge difference in pbc 460m - 770m
the original 460m is way bigger than the 770m board.
now i see what you mean, the g73sw heatsink would never fit on a 770m board.
also de pcb has 2 differend mounting points i had to relocate them :
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and i also found that the original x-bracket has 2 flaps on both sides and would sit in the way if i used that one on the 770m board:

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leftside is the new 770m board on the right is my stock 460m.
i know it's for the memorychips support.
what's better to do: cut-off the flaps and re-use the xbracket on the 770m board or order a new x-bracket? like jmhdj posted?

jmhdj
09-24-2014, 10:55 PM
I already posted that it wont fit becouse mounting screw holes on 460m xbracket are bigger then holes on 770m board. I am not sure how to explain it clearer.

Knallebal
09-25-2014, 07:36 AM
ok i'm conviced :) i'm ordering a fresh xbracket from clevo-extreme
i'm just a little worried about the memorychips on the 770m board not being covered by this new xbracket.
should i order some thermal pads for covering the memorychips as well?

Sci-ops
09-25-2014, 09:14 AM
Knallebal, did the mounting points or stand offs desolder easily? I would imagine they would require quite a bit of heat before letting go.

On other forums some people say that the newer GDDR5 ram without overclocking doesn't need cooling. This was about the modules on the back of the card.

jmhdj
09-25-2014, 11:21 AM
Knallebal, did the mounting points or stand offs desolder easily? I would imagine they would require quite a bit of heat before letting go.

On other forums some people say that the newer GDDR5 ram without overclocking doesn't need cooling. This was about the modules on the back of the card.
I wrote you just unscrew screw holding mounting point on back and use pliers and gently turn mounting point one and after other direction it will loose easilly. No need for heat.
As for memory on back dell/alienware dont have cooling for memory on back side either atleast not on all chips.

Sci-ops
09-25-2014, 11:46 AM
Jmhdj, it's very good that you mentioned that. The keyword has to be "gently" then.
I thought people could overheat their boards trying to desolder those.

Knallebal
09-25-2014, 12:52 PM
the mounitingpoints need a little heat indeed (from a solder-iron). once the solder is liquid they literally just fall off and can then be soldered again elsewere.
i'm glad to hear the memorychips don't need cooling.
i don't overclock at all, i'd like it to be as stable as possible :)
thanx for your info!

jmhdj
09-25-2014, 03:02 PM
Jmhdj, it's very good that you mentioned that. The keyword has to be "gently" then.
I thought people could overheat their boards trying to desolder those.
Thats why no heat is needed, much easyer and safer.
You have to be very gentle handling all fine electronics well :)

Knallebal
09-25-2014, 03:06 PM
still wondering.. i tried to turn / notch the mounting points carefully but they never came off.
in my case i really had to grab a soldering-iron and heat the thing up get them off the board.

jmhdj
09-25-2014, 03:38 PM
I have unmounted atleast 10 pices by now and never needed anything else but small tip pliers.

Knallebal
09-26-2014, 06:23 AM
I have unmounted atleast 10 pices by now and never needed anything else but small tip pliers.
i guess you have better tools than i do :)

my xbracket is on it's way

jmhdj
09-26-2014, 10:28 AM
I think its technique :)
Anyway keep patience and dont do anything impulsive as you waiting on xbracket.

Thundergy
09-30-2014, 06:50 AM
hello jmhdj. I have asus g73sw as well, 4 yrs old, with 460m and i7 2630QM. Its really slow, i just bought an 256GB ssd for it to speed up the startup and the use of Microsoft office. My question is can i upgrade to 770m and i7-2860QM without any mods done to power? I notice the 770m requires 25 more watts, and CPU's both run 45Watts, so will my computer function properly plugged into stock power brick? on battery when im in college classes or what can you recommend? sorry for bothering you, but you're my last resort. PLEASE RESPOND!!!!

Knallebal
10-03-2014, 12:14 PM
I received my x-bracket last wednesday, but this forum went down for maintenance for 3 days.
next step was to put on the thermalpaste and attach the heatsink to the 770m-board.
at that point, with the paste already applied, i found out that the screws were just 2 mm too short.
so i had to shop for some tiny M1,6 bolts length 6 mm.

1 day later i found a local shop where they got those tiny bolts.
i cleaned the board and the heatsink, re-applied thermal paste and put the whole thing together.



When first booting the system after the 460-broard has been replaced with the 770-board, i got the following bios-message:

ERROR: Valid MXM Structure not found.
POST halted for 30 seconds, P-State limited to P10.._ (secs counting down)


while flashing Vbios for gtx770m using the command: nvflash 770M.ROM

NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (version 5.163)

Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)...

adapter: Geforce GTX 770M (10DE,11E0,10DE,11E0) H:--:NRM B:01,PCI,D:00,F:00

WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsytem ID (10DE.1008)
does noet match adapter PCI Subsytem ID (10DE,11E0).

ERROR: PCI subsytem ID mismatch


i flashed the image anyway using switch option -6 to ingnore th ID subsytem ID mismatch: nvflash -6 770M.ROM

the flash was succesful, after flashing the new image, the "ERROR: Valid MXM Structure not found" went away during booting.
Windows just boots fine, but the 770m-board doesn't get recognised in devicemanager :( the deafult microsoft vga-driver is loaded with no accelleration at all.

Is there a way to modify the subsystem ID in the vbios so that my 770m board gets to be recognised by windows?

Knallebal
10-05-2014, 07:03 AM
Update!

JMHDJ did some drivehack for my system. the latest nvidiadriver is now installed.
Idle gpu-temp = 37 degrees c
when running battlfield4 and Grid2 = about 70 degrees c

thanx JMHDJ!:cool:

jmhdj
10-05-2014, 09:36 AM
Update!

JMHDJ did some drivehack for my system. the latest nvidiadriver is now installed.
Idle gpu-temp = 37 degrees c
when running battlfield4 and Grid2 = about 70 degrees c

thanx JMHDJ!:cool:

So finally you got your upgrade finished. Massive performance improvement, Congratulations :)

jmhdj
10-05-2014, 09:41 AM
hello jmhdj. I have asus g73sw as well, 4 yrs old, with 460m and i7 2630QM. Its really slow, i just bought an 256GB ssd for it to speed up the startup and the use of Microsoft office. My question is can i upgrade to 770m and i7-2860QM without any mods done to power? I notice the 770m requires 25 more watts, and CPU's both run 45Watts, so will my computer function properly plugged into stock power brick? on battery when im in college classes or what can you recommend? sorry for bothering you, but you're my last resort. PLEASE RESPOND!!!!

It will work. I curently have g73sw with 2680qm cpu and gtx 680m installed. With my setup max wattage is around 200 watts when overclocking and using throttlestop to get turbo properly. However with 2860qm and 770m it will rarely go above 150 watt. Max ever I got with 770m and 2860qm was 154 watt. Anyhow If you want to be on totally safe side then just buy original 180 watt charger used in g75vx series or g750 series as they use same power tip.

Knallebal
10-07-2014, 09:00 AM
41883massive performance improvement ideed.
i did a 3dmark vantage test (still have to do 3dmark11)

3Dmarkscore P14277
GPU score 13511
CPU score 17205

a very satifacting score :) but i noticed another problem: there is no HDMI output at all :confused:

and i think due the same reason Subsystem hardwareID is incorrect, my OSX (hackintosh) partition doesn't see my GTX770m board :(

is there any way i can modify the correct hardwareID inside the bios so the all the OSes "see" a valid GTX770m?

jmhdj
10-07-2014, 06:31 PM
41883massive performance improvement ideed.
i did a 3dmark vantage test (still have to do 3dmark11)

3Dmarkscore P14277
GPU score 13511
CPU score 17205

a very satifacting score :) but i noticed another problem: there is no HDMI output at all :confused:

and i think due the same reason Subsystem hardwareID is incorrect, my OSX (hackintosh) partition doesn't see my GTX770m board :(

is there any way i can modify the correct hardwareID inside the bios so the all the OSes "see" a valid GTX770m?

Hardware ID would involve hardware modding as it is decided by couple of resistors on board itself. No software can bypass that. I think it is very difficult to find which resistors are involved. As for hdmi I never tested that as I never use it might have to do with hardware id to but maybe some other things to.

Sci-ops
10-07-2014, 06:31 PM
It's great to hear your success Knallebal.

I think no output on the HDMI is expected but I didn't know about OS issues. Is the card recognized in other OSes like Ubuntu?

You can read on Jmhdj's threads on other forums. A major difficulty for him was to get the internal laptop screen working. The screen would work if it was connected to an external monitor through the vga output but not on the internal screen. He had to modify the vbios to get it working and spent a lot of effort doing that. You know internal screen is connected to a 40pin connector on the motherboard called the lvds connector. HDMI is a another connector on the motherboard which the graphics card sends information for the monitors to read. So I believe the vbios needs to be further modified to get the HDMI working as well. I am not sure if this is a hardware ID issue or if there is anything you can currently do but you need to wait for Jmhdj's answer. Maybe he can kindly offer you another modified vbios or furhter directions.

Do you use the HDMI output? Like projectors, external screens? There is the "Facebook" Oculus and the other VR headsets coming out so I thought it could be important.

Knallebal
10-07-2014, 07:20 PM
i managed to modify the susbystem hardware ID from 1008 to 11E0 by hexeditting the vbios file at 2 places. gave it a new checksum with the kepler bios tweaker. i flashed it to my 770m board.

the sad thing is, it doesn't change anything. windows still sees a standard vga-adapter with no acceleration at all.
and i still have to hack nvami.inf and disable signed drivers to get the board going. and ofcourse still no HDMI output.


HDMI is essential for me. i rarely use the build-in LCD-screen as my G73SW is the heart of my studio. i only use HDMI on an external convenient 40" screen
if it's really impossible to get HDMI working, then i will have to put back the old gtx460m board (which i don't want).

Sci-ops
10-07-2014, 07:47 PM
So you attempted to solve the problem by hex editing. You have my full respect, that's no easy task. You know if it were to get bricked and you would have to undo all the hard work, get the card out, desolder the vbios chip, put back in a reprogrammed one etc. i.e. a lot of work.

I hope you are able to resolve the HDMI issue. It's a bigger accomplishment to get a non Asus card to work with the G73sw with full acceleration, fans working correctly, internal display working so the hardest part is already done. Let's see what Jmhdj says.

jmhdj
10-08-2014, 08:28 AM
I have not much more to add than that I wroted in previous post.

Thundergy
10-10-2014, 06:46 PM
Thanks for the reply! and it will work when on battery?

Knallebal
10-11-2014, 09:06 AM
i can't live without HDMI output. i'm thinking, if i change my NVIDIA GTX-770m board with an ATI board, would i get HDMI-output?

jmhdj
10-11-2014, 02:22 PM
Yes but dont try to game on battery ever. As it uses more power even on downclocked frequencies it probably damaged cells.

Pete88
10-17-2014, 09:55 PM
Hi, does anyone know where I can find a 680m for less than 500$ ? That seems quite expensive.

andrizmitnick
01-12-2015, 05:12 PM
need some advice, btw i have ASUS G73SW and GTX460M on it. and from what i read is, the socket has MXM 3.0b support. so any gpu model as listed as MXM 3.0b, can i use it on my laptop? on ebay i found so much of MXM 3.0b GPU model series (like 870m,880m,970m,980m, etc), but in description, it's say just for MSI, Alienware, or Clevo model series. can u give me some explanation in additional for upgrading my gpu? BTW i'm interested on this model " http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nvidia-GeFor...item3ced3e125a " , do you have some advice? if i choose this, do i need to mod the vbios by myself? thanks

sasuke256
01-22-2015, 08:50 AM
need some advice, btw i have ASUS G73SW and GTX460M on it. and from what i read is, the socket has MXM 3.0b support. so any gpu model as listed as MXM 3.0b, can i use it on my laptop? on ebay i found so much of MXM 3.0b GPU model series (like 870m,880m,970m,980m, etc), but in description, it's say just for MSI, Alienware, or Clevo model series. can u give me some explanation in additional for upgrading my gpu? BTW i'm interested on this model " http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nvidia-GeFor...item3ced3e125a " , do you have some advice? if i choose this, do i need to mod the vbios by myself? thanks
You must only buy asus cards, PM me i'll explain it further to you and tell you where..

thetweaker
02-19-2015, 08:57 AM
I am thinking to upgrade my g53sw whit gtx 460m.

What should i get considering and prepared for my system? i am still looking for a GPU on ebay but non up yet.

HASMat
03-26-2015, 04:03 AM
Hi there guys. I also have the same computer G73SW. Its done okay so far, but i think its about time for some upgrades.....anyone know if it can take any upgrades in the 9xx series? I was hoping to move into the maxwell architecture with the 970/980 when they become cheaper or new cards come out. Would this be a possible mod? If this is not possible. I was considering maybe even trying to run two cards in SLI.....would that even be possible? I'm very frustrated with modding skyrim on this computer.....ive been dreaming of running games at full settings since i was a kid... >.> unforuntately i'm not rich....worst case scenario if the modding is too expensive i'll just build a desktop(finally.....been waiting for over 10 years). It would be pretty sick though if i could get the same thing out of this laptop......this baby was expensive.....really expensive. Any suggestions?

jmhdj
03-29-2015, 12:44 PM
Upgrade to maxwell would teoreticaly work. As for sli, laptop holds only one MXM slot so unless you manage to stick two cards in same slot you can not get sli :)

Rector Orbis
03-29-2015, 05:12 PM
Hi to all. I have G73SW and I would like to upgrade it whit 770 or 680. Can I count for help whit getting a proper vbios? I have an ASUS G73JH HD 5870M Video Card GPU Heatsink. From that I have read the gtx 680m will be a better choice, right?

jmhdj
03-29-2015, 08:19 PM
You can not update g73jh With nvidia cards as bios has no support for nvidia mxm structure at all. I managed to upgrade to gtx 770m my old g73jh but it is technicaly copmlicated that it can not be recommended unless you really know what you are doing.

Rector Orbis
03-29-2015, 08:32 PM
Sorry i was not precise. I have a G73SW laptop and I bought Heatsink from G73JH for a mod

jmhdj
03-30-2015, 07:04 AM
Then best route to og is gtx 770m. It is same tdp as 460m.

Rector Orbis
03-30-2015, 10:52 AM
Ok, do I have to change vbios on 770m when i get one? Also gtx680m seems to be more powerful and cheaper than 770m so is installing the 680m much more complicated? I know that 180w power supply is required. Will HDMI work after the mod?

jmhdj
03-30-2015, 09:50 PM
Yes both cards needs modded vbios. 680m needs more modification. HDMI will not work on neither card.

Rector Orbis
03-31-2015, 11:23 AM
Thanks for help, now I have to decide what card use for mod 770m or 680m. I will let you know when I order one

Ganjax
03-31-2015, 04:16 PM
For GTX770M is vBios from ASUS, it will work without modifications with Asus G73SW after flash Asus vBios to GTX770M 3GB Alienware version card?

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/145145/asus-gtx770m-3072-130328.html

Rector Orbis
03-31-2015, 05:49 PM
I've ordered GeForce GTX 770M 3GB/192bit MXM 3.0 B from Alienware. Should I use a 180w power supply after mod? Original 150w seems to be ok it cards have same TPD.

Ganjax
03-31-2015, 05:51 PM
I've ordered GeForce GTX 770M 3GB/192bit MXM 3.0 B from Alienware. Should I use a 180w power supply after mod? Original 150w seems to be ok it cards have same TPD.

Your card is working without modifications vbios?

Rector Orbis
03-31-2015, 06:07 PM
Your card is working without modifications vbios?

I've just order it, don't have it now. I should receive it this week. But as jmhdj wrote bout cards (680m and 770m) needs modded vbios

Ganjax
03-31-2015, 06:32 PM
Yeah, i think he got this vbios what worked, i hope he can share with us. I have to buy cheap 680M and 770M, 680M 235$ and 770M also 235&. So i mind about upgrade to one of them.

Rector Orbis
03-31-2015, 07:01 PM
680m have more performance http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-770M-vs-GeForce-GTX-680M but I think that 770m will be ok for me. It is some inconvenience that HDMI will not work after the mod as I used it very often but performance boost is too attractive :-)

Ganjax
03-31-2015, 07:41 PM
You have right. I will decide when i'll know what vbios will find, i hope u'll share your if u'll find correct for 770M, that's very important for me :)

Rector Orbis
03-31-2015, 08:00 PM
jmhdj can you share bios for 770m, once we get the card?

jmhdj
03-31-2015, 08:18 PM
Yes. I need only to know what kind of memory chips are and total size on new gpu.

Rector Orbis
03-31-2015, 08:24 PM
Ok, I will let you know once I receive card

Ganjax
03-31-2015, 09:20 PM
Mine is GTX 770M from MSI, 3GB Hynix memory chips.
Can't wait for test new card !

Rector Orbis
04-02-2015, 12:07 PM
I've received card it also have 3GB Hynix memory chips. jmhdj do you need to know anything more?

Rector Orbis
04-03-2015, 09:52 AM
Ok I have everything ready card is installed whit new cooling after switching laptop on I have ERROR: Valid MXM Structure not found. POST halted for 30 seconds, P-State limited to P10. I thing it is a good sing? So it seems that only flashing new vbios has left. As I wrote it before card have 3GB Hynix memory chips, jmhdj can you send me correct vbios?

Rector Orbis
04-03-2015, 01:21 PM
I've flashed card whit asus bios and laptop is starting normally but windows recognize it as standard Microsoft graphic card and NVidia installation doesn't recognize it

Ganjax
04-03-2015, 01:35 PM
Im waiting too :(
U need to edit inf file to install nvidia drivers.

Rector Orbis
04-03-2015, 03:22 PM
Well I don't know which inf file should I edit and what to change so still waiting for vbios from jmhdj

Ganjax
04-04-2015, 04:09 PM
I hope he will be available soon :(

Rector Orbis
04-04-2015, 04:42 PM
Me too. In meanwhile I've manage to change NVidia installation files so setup recognize graphic card as 770m but still giving error while installing video driver... and I've fixed my microphone it was wrong plugged to MB

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 09:17 AM
Sry guys I was on vacation over weekend. I can mod inf file for you if you tell me what driver you dovnloaded or send inf file to me so I can edit it.

Rector Orbis
04-06-2015, 09:34 AM
Hi, have to edit nvami.inf file right? I've tried to do it but still have error during installation of video driver
I have newest 347.88 drivers

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 10:17 AM
Yes. inf file must be edited if you og to Device manager and check gpu info under hardware ids, post it here so I can mod inf file for you. It should be like this: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1198&SUBSYS_157D1043&REV_A1

You have Windows 7 64bit right?

Rector Orbis
04-06-2015, 10:21 AM
I have win8.1(64bit). My id PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_11E0&SUBSYS_11E010DE&REV_A1
I've flash card whit that bios http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/145145/asus-gtx770m-3072-130328.html you think it will work OK?

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 10:38 AM
Extract and replace original file from: X:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\347.88\Win8_WinVista_Win7_ 64\International\Display.Driver

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 10:41 AM
Yes probably however if you get artifacts when playing games or memory size is not displayed like it should be then we need to fix vbios a bit.

Rector Orbis
04-06-2015, 10:48 AM
48178Memory size is indeed wrong. I've used file from you but during setup when graphic driver is installing screen flicker and setup end with an error. When I enter device manager name of graphic card is display (before installation it was something like standard windows graphic) Maybe is still something whit vbios? 48177

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 10:56 AM
Ok give me moment ot double check my file.

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 11:08 AM
Try same procedure With this file to it is in same location as nvami.inf replace With original one and tick clean install when get to choose instalation of driver.

Rector Orbis
04-06-2015, 11:12 AM
Unfortunately I get the same error :-(

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 11:20 AM
Tried to completely remove nvidia from control panel and restart laptop?

Rector Orbis
04-06-2015, 11:26 AM
I've tried again just like you said but again no success

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 11:29 AM
Sorry i downloaded win 7 64bit driver shall try win8 347.88 driver. Didnt think it would matter

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 12:05 PM
Try with this file. Maybe you should download again same driver form nvidia so we exclude coruption.

Rector Orbis
04-06-2015, 12:18 PM
Downloaded drivers again, remove all NVidia files, restart, clean install with edited nv-dispi and still fail

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 12:29 PM
Try once again With this file.

If this fails then I am at lost as it may be nvidia that made some security change to not allow for modding of their drivers.

Ganjax
04-06-2015, 12:55 PM
That's bad news, i hope there is way to make it able to install

Rector Orbis
04-06-2015, 12:57 PM
It didn't work. It is normal that gpu-z don't show GPU and memory clocks before installing drivers?
jmhdj can you sand me vbios that you used? Maybe if Iflash it it will work
48182

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 01:03 PM
I think I remember that on Windows 8 you need to start with driver signature disabled to get modded drivers to install.

Link: http://www.howtogeek.com/167723/how-to-disable-driver-signature-verification-on-64-bit-windows-8.1-so-that-you-can-install-unsigned-drivers/

Rector Orbis
04-06-2015, 01:13 PM
jmhdj you are right !! It woked :-) I almost lost hope

Rector Orbis
04-06-2015, 01:14 PM
48183Thanks for help I would probably newer figured it out

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 01:18 PM
Glad I could be of help. Now just dont rush and fry your new card. Gpuz benching program is nice for easy load testing for temperature of the gpu. Just run it an look how far temperature goes. It is question mark right to the bus Interface info in main window.
If you get over 90 degrees celsius then cooling is not right, or if you get artifacts then there is problem with vbios regarding video memory chips.

Keep us updated.

Ganjax
04-06-2015, 01:20 PM
I sent u message with my email adress :)

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 01:26 PM
Ok. I read it you ordered 680m right?
I need info on size of gpu vram and chips type.

Rector Orbis
04-06-2015, 01:26 PM
I'm testing it in frumark It seems it is going to 86 C

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 01:31 PM
I would be very careful in begining with heavy load benchmarking aplications as furmark. However 86 is not bad. Check if charger gets to hot. Vould be nice if you had watt meter to see how much laptop pulls under load. If over 150 watts then probably upgrading charger is necessary.

Rector Orbis
04-06-2015, 01:35 PM
I've already upgraded to 180watt charger and on watt meter it shows 147 watts. So Ganjax decided to upgrade with 680m? Please tell me it you succeed maybe try to change 770m it future too. jmhdj thanks again for help

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 02:55 PM
You are welcome. Thats smart with 180 watts charger best to keep it on safe side. Its not big leap from 770m to 680m I would rather aim to 780m or 980m :)

Ganjax
04-06-2015, 03:06 PM
Im bought 770M 3GB Hynix. But @jmhdj still didn't sent vbios for me. Im waiting

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 03:21 PM
You can try asus 770m vbios like Rector Orbis did if that dont work then I can make vbios that will work for you but there is no point to rush before you got gpu and provide with info I asked already.

Ganjax
04-06-2015, 03:25 PM
So u mean asus version of 770m and edit driver?

Ganjax
04-06-2015, 03:45 PM
Okay im start upgrading GPU, i'll give response when done :)

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 03:53 PM
Yes. You probably can use inf files attached here as long as your hardware id match those of Rector Orbis. And take your time so you avoid making mistake and destroy gpu or laptop.

Ganjax
04-06-2015, 04:05 PM
I will need edit something with windows? Im using windows 7?

jmhdj
04-06-2015, 04:21 PM
I will need edit something with windows? Im using windows 7?

Yes same as Rector O. Disable driver signature at boot and install modded driver.

Ganjax
04-13-2015, 12:08 PM
Oh very well..SUCCESS!! :)

http://i.imgur.com/l51hyrN.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/q5fCTiu.png
BTW 40 celsius IDLE AWESOME!!

But i have some problems.
When GPU are in hard stress, then screen crash and "Driver stopped responding and has recovered"
When play D3 on max settings same screen crash. As i see in gpu-z boost is set up to 797 Mhz, but GPU-Z log show me it's real in stress 862MHz.

http://i.imgur.com/9bI8HdZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/IYGXczu.png

It shouldn't jump to 862MHz right?
I have stock ASUS 150W AC Adapter.

jmhdj
04-15-2015, 05:48 AM
I think it is nvidia boost that is responsible for 862mhz clock. It can be edited in vbios. what temperature card reach when crashing?

Ganjax
04-15-2015, 10:45 AM
@jmhdj - always 80-83 degrees, never more.
BUT, when i use MSI Afterburner, and when underclock to -130. Then max in boost is 730Mhz, it happen also.

I hope card is not physical damaged.
Maybe problem is AC Adatpter 150W? Before i had 5870M from jh, there fans started 100%, now it's smooth spinning up.

When i turn off internal screen and plug external monitor via vga, then it comes up to 86 celsius, stress test crashed, but it working bit longer.
I heard fans was faster and faster from 80+ degrees. Looks like AC have not enough W power.

Ganjax
04-17-2015, 06:11 PM
Nevermind, thanks ^.-

jmhdj
04-18-2015, 09:24 AM
Did you fix it? Sorry I have not time to come inn here more often.

Ganjax
04-19-2015, 05:30 AM
Im waiting for new HP 230W power supply.
If new AC will not help, then i'll change system to windows 8.
I hope it's just not enough power and crash when fans go up,

GPU working good > 85 deg C > fans going up > motherboard gives more power to fans and gpu have crash by reduce power from motherboard.
That's what im think, we'll know that when new PSU will come. thuesday/wednesday

Or maybe there are tip for check how much power take laptop in stress? cpu, spu, screen, usb etc? There is program or something?

jmhdj
04-19-2015, 10:36 AM
I have watt meter in my power outlet and see total usage of laptop. My system with 2860qm and 680m use around 160-170 watt without overclocking.

Rector Orbis
04-19-2015, 01:42 PM
I've started MSI Kombustor test on my stock 150watt power supply with watt meter and it pass an 5 min test, maximum power usage was 148 watts. But maybe 5 years old power supply's may be in different condition as I know max power is decreasing over the time (tell me if I'm wrong).

JmhdJ can you help me to understand what do I have to change in nvami.inf file to get new drivers to work? I've compared original file from drivers and that from you and if seems you added 4 string I added them to inf from new drivers and disabled driver signature but it fails to install. Do I have to change something more?

Ganjax
04-20-2015, 09:49 AM
@Rector Orbis, did you notice in GPU-Z log frequency jump to 862MHz in sensor tab or file log?
Here you go, i modifed inf files to make it work on newest 350 driver.
Few lines with subv etc.

Rector Orbis
04-20-2015, 05:59 PM
Thanks for files and yes during stress test my card core is going to 862MHz so it seem to be normal. I hope that power supply will resolve your problem.

Ganjax
04-20-2015, 06:51 PM
Yeah me2.
I'll recieve tommorow power supply, and maybe tommorow adapter from 7.4/5.0 mm to 5.5/2.5mm, because it's strong PSU from HP all in one. 230W power.
And as we know HP have diffrent plugs.

Ganjax
04-21-2015, 05:54 PM
BAD NEWS, new power supply didn't help, still crashing.
I have no idea what's happen, why at 80deg when card structure is build for max 93 deg C.
Rector Orbis - you have xbracket with dram cover one side? Mine is just X bracket without any cover.
Maybe memory is getting hot and crash? Under card it's not covered by any sink, but GPU dont support memory temps :/

I think i'll need back to seller card. Maybe it's damaged :/ But it doesn't look any damage.

Rector Orbis
04-22-2015, 03:40 PM
My X bracket have no cover

Sci-ops
04-24-2015, 10:47 AM
Hi Jmhdj,

May I request custom G73sw vbios file for 770m with 3GB Hynix ram modules?
Best,
48571

Ganjax
04-25-2015, 06:34 AM
Download from vbios collection Asus version of GTX770M , it will work.

Ganjax
05-15-2015, 12:45 PM
@jmhdj - Hi, can you send me vbios for GTX680M working with ASUS? I had to back my GTX770M cause of crashes, i bought GTX680M.

My email: ganjax15@gmail.com

Atoyer
05-17-2015, 05:18 AM
Hi all,

Has anyone had any luck to get the HDMI working when upgrading G73SW gpu to GTX780M (DELL)?

I thought I read somewhere that it is working without sound using the ASUS vbios but can't find the post again.

BTW: thanks to all the members who have been posting on this and other forums about G73SW gpu upgrades. Iv'e learnt a lot in the last few days :).

Ganjax
05-17-2015, 03:54 PM
With GTX780M unfortunely u can't get working HDMI :/

Ganjax
06-09-2015, 07:32 AM
Successfully i upgraded GPU to GTX780M 4GB. I flashed Asus vBios from vbios collection, working like a charm, really stable and low temps!
Just had to modify driver.

Inverse26
06-12-2015, 07:41 AM
Hi @ all,

I followed this threat since many weeks now and really appreciated that all you guys "freely" shared your experiences on upgrading your GPUs. I've been doing a lot of reflection the last few days and finally decided, to upgrade mine (G73Sw) too.
Thats why I just bought a gtx770m on eBay. Now I have a question concerning the heatsink (still not clear for me). In an earlier post I read, that I could use the current heatsink (of gtx460m - just have to repaste). Is this right? Why did most of you modified the old jh heatsink? Are there any advantages using this one?

What about the PSU. I couldn't really find out (in your posts), if it is necessary to get a stronger one? Do I have to modd something on the mainboard or simply buy a new one?

@jmhdj: may I request the modded vbios when my new GPU has arrived?

Many thanks for your help!

Greetz

Ganjax
06-12-2015, 08:14 AM
Hi @ all,

I followed this threat since many weeks now and really appreciated that all you guys "freely" shared your experiences on upgrading your GPUs. I've been doing a lot of reflection the last few days and finally decided, to upgrade mine (G73Sw) too.
Thats why I just bought a gtx770m on eBay. Now I have a question concerning the heatsink (still not clear for me). In an earlier post I read, that I could use the current heatsink (of gtx460m - just have to repaste). Is this right? Why did most of you modified the old jh heatsink? Are there any advantages using this one?

What about the PSU. I couldn't really find out (in your posts), if it is necessary to get a stronger one? Do I have to modd something on the mainboard or simply buy a new one?

@jmhdj: may I request the modded vbios when my new GPU has arrived?

Many thanks for your help!

Greetz

Hi, you need JH heatsink. Why? Because it is heatsink designed for most GPU factory. Asus have modifed size card in SW, and it is not compatibile with default GPU M factory. That's why.

Vbios, u do not need modifed vbiis, use asus version from vbios collection.
PSU, 150W will trade this power, but this PSU will really hot in stress.
I bought 230W from HP anf used connector adapter from hp to asus. Just for 20$ new PSU in Poland :)

Inverse26
06-12-2015, 09:01 AM
Hi Ganjax,
Thanks for your fast reponses! Great, so I'll try to get a new heatsink and the HP PSU. Hope they will be shipped fast :D C'ant wait to get rid of that 460m.

Greetz

Ganjax
06-12-2015, 09:12 AM
Dont forget about ac adapter from 7.4mm to 5.5 :)
I bought one on ebay for 1$

Inverse26
06-12-2015, 09:58 AM
Sure :) Can I ask you which thermal paste you used for your upgrade? Is there one that you could recommend me?

Ganjax
06-12-2015, 10:02 AM
Gelid GC Extreme and Phobya XT 7W thermalpads

Inverse26
06-16-2015, 02:17 PM
Hi Ganjax,

sorry for my late response (was quiet busy the last few days). Thanks, I will have a closer look at it. I just ordered my g73jh heatsink on ebay and tried already to understand, how I will have to adjust it.
I found the following guide (with a gtx660m), explaining which modifications have to be done. Are this changes also valid for the gtx770m?

Link: http://forum.techinferno.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/2013-%5Bguide%5D-g73jw-upgrade-nvidia-gtx-660m.html

Thanks for your help.

Greetz
Inverse

Rector Orbis
07-31-2015, 05:56 PM
Hi again,
Can you guys help me with editing Nvidia ini files in drivers for Win 10 to work with 770m? I've tried to do it my self but I'm doing something wrong. Great thanks

Nevermind it I've manage to do it. Anyway G73SW with Win 10 and GTX770m is working great :-)

Knallebal
09-24-2015, 09:13 AM
Hi again,
Can you guys help me with editing Nvidia ini files in drivers for Win 10 to work with 770m? I've tried to do it my self but I'm doing something wrong. Great thanks

Nevermind it I've manage to do it. Anyway G73SW with Win 10 and GTX770m is working great :-)

that's great work!
did you manage to get HDMI-output working?

would you care to share the altered driver? i'd also like to upgrade to windows10
thanx in advance

Rector Orbis
09-26-2015, 10:40 AM
HDMI is still not working. In attachment is file you need to replace to get NVidia drivers working in WIN 10, remember to disable driver signature enforcement

Knallebal
09-28-2015, 02:52 PM
Thanx!

i got the driver installed. running smoothly Thank you!

thetweaker
10-01-2015, 12:58 AM
I have a 53sw wich i got some new parts ,

new motherboard. and i got

http://es.aliexpress.com/item/Original-G750JH-MXM-N14E-GTX-N14E-GTX-A2-GTX780M-GTX-780M-DDR5-4G-MB-graphics-card/32266279268.html?adminSeq=112923262&shopNumber=805646


would it be possible to fit on the g53sw?.

Knallebal
10-05-2015, 09:52 AM
in addition to all the hard work jmhdj does (modding inf files), i bumped in to this website:

http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/topic/31736-msi-mobile-geforce-drivers-35369-and-35374-for-windows-10/

they post recently altered inf files for most of the available chipsets/strings
might be useful to some of you

Rakshir
10-12-2015, 12:44 AM
So I have an Asus g75vw.

Will my Laptop support this upgrade?

Do I just need to search for a mxm type B card, no certain model required?

Would you do a 770 or 860 is one easier then other? Best bang for the buck ?

Thank you for all for doing the initial work on this. Like the rest of you I'm trying to get some more useful time out of this Laptop, but Geforce gtx670 holding it back.

thetweaker
10-16-2015, 12:37 PM
Just got my GTX 780m , waitinf for my motherboards to try it out, will need to modify the headsink too

thetweaker
11-03-2015, 02:34 PM
I've been trying to fit this but it aint working.

I got a board g53sx i had g53sw shouldnt matter or?...

Pluyging whit gtc 460 it starts , whit the gtx 780, it wont start and it short circuit so the charget shuts down instantly....


any help on this ?

jmhdj
11-03-2015, 11:00 PM
I've been trying to fit this but it aint working.

I got a board g53sx i had g53sw shouldnt matter or?...

Pluyging whit gtc 460 it starts , whit the gtx 780, it wont start and it short circuit so the charget shuts down instantly....


any help on this ?

Hei. You are most probably getting short somewhere. Tripple check gpu heatsink or mounting holes underneath 780m making shorting as they are placed in configuration to fit asus gpu board.

thetweaker
11-04-2015, 08:01 AM
*I have fully cleaned the gpu whit rubbing alochol i have the large board from g75 .

thetweaker
11-04-2015, 04:58 PM
Original G750JH_MXM_N14E-GTX N14E-GTX-A2 GTX780M GTX 780M DDR5 4G MB


my card

jmhdj
11-05-2015, 12:25 AM
I dont believe you will be able to fit asus 780m gpu inside g53 laptop. I can recomend that you dont assembly laptopto be easyier to test/troubleshot.
Just take whole motherboard from chasis together with fans. Connect charger and press power button and see what happens.

thetweaker
11-05-2015, 06:51 AM
I have got it fitted, had to modifie some on the case to get it in.

I have tested whit 460gtx starts whit no trouble,. when i put on the gtc 780m it short circuits my charger and the green light goes of.


i am using the 120w original charger, can be the problem ?

thetweaker
11-05-2015, 07:14 AM
it short circuits on the GFX, on the two First bars that are kinda of 2 FAT lines begining on the right side.

thetweaker
11-05-2015, 07:27 AM
pj9403 under this markings on the backside it have shortcircuited i can se the burn marks.

i put a paper over but then nothing happens. , the gtx460 boots my pc, this nothing. cant even power up.

the light on the charger just vanish when plugin into motherboard.

jmhdj
11-05-2015, 11:57 AM
It will never short there without reason. Probably you have shorted some coponents on gpu board with either chasis or motherboard earlier when you tested it first time.
I am afraid that 780m is fried now..
Can you take clear pictures of both sides (gpu)?

thetweaker
11-07-2015, 05:52 PM
53510

thetweaker
11-07-2015, 05:57 PM
53511


I have made room on the case, i have tested the board whit the motherboard outside the case.

I am recieven one more motherboard i bought 2 incase one was faulty.

jmhdj
11-08-2015, 07:02 PM
After looking at your pictures I am afraid that 780m is mechanicaly different from previous asus gpus and not compatible with motherboard. I sure hope that I am wrong. You will find out when you recieve another board.

thetweaker
11-09-2015, 12:03 PM
What i have seen that you guys use normal mxm cards, and asus is speacial reverted ?, this might be one of the specials for asus laptops?`


i don't know when the next motherboard is coming, they were oredered the same day. its been 2 weeks late for the
sw board, currently on SX.

jmhdj
11-09-2015, 08:36 PM
What i have seen that you guys use normal mxm cards, and asus is speacial reverted ?, this might be one of the specials for asus laptops?`


i don't know when the next motherboard is coming, they were oredered the same day. its been 2 weeks late for the
sw board, currently on SX.

Sadly it will most probably react in same way. Shorting you mention earlier happens on gpu connector from backside and almost far left?

thetweaker
11-10-2015, 12:52 AM
Sadly it will most probably react in same way. Shorting you mention earlier happens on gpu connector from backside and almost far left?



Yeah exatly, not on the last fat line, but the second last , there is like a separation between. 2 fat lines then the large one. it happens on the second last phat one to the left side.

i guess this are bad news ;P

jmhdj
11-10-2015, 11:59 AM
Yeah exatly, not on the last fat line, but the second last , there is like a separation between. 2 fat lines then the large one. it happens on the second last phat one to the left side.

i guess this are bad news ;P

Yes I believe so. Couse if you study other mxm 3.0b gpu's there is actualy separation between two first phat lines on left. But on asus it is not even if it looks like. So probably asus decided to change/modify their version of 780m and thus make it not compatible with other laptops that use standard MXM connector.
You wil know for sure when you recieve secon motherboard..

thetweaker
11-10-2015, 12:07 PM
Yes I believe so. Couse if you study other mxm 3.0b gpu's there is actualy separation between two first phat lines on left. But on asus it is not even if it looks like. So probably asus decided to change/modify their version of 780m and thus make it not compatible with other laptops that use standard MXM connector.
You wil know for sure when you recieve secon motherboard..


ok, i understand, it arrived today will pick it up soon.

How about if a modifie it?, i got the card for free , so i can play some whit it.

I guess else it should be compatible whit laptops that use the large broad mxm card?

might even try to find a cheap asus i was really exited to get this working , ill update as soon as i try the second board, ill put some pics of my modification so it could fit aswell.

jmhdj
11-10-2015, 02:24 PM
Dont asembly laptop test it outside of chasis with only necessary things connected first (fans and lcd)

jmhdj
11-13-2015, 01:45 PM
Any updates?
Please keep us informed how it went for sake of future users wishing to upgrade their laptops with asus gpu's.

thetweaker
11-14-2015, 11:39 AM
Any updates?
Please keep us informed how it went for sake of future users wishing to upgrade their laptops with asus gpu's.

No yet, i have had not time to pick up the second motherboard from the postage, ill try to update s unday to let you guys know how it whent.

thetweaker
12-10-2015, 04:12 PM
Some update, i have gotten a offer of this card.

So will be wiating to test it.

he 880mxm posted previosuly might not be supported.



http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-for-Dell-Alienware-M17X-R1-R2-R3-R4-Gaming-Laptop-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-880M-256/32478186470.html

Godaemon
12-17-2015, 05:54 PM
Hello ppl , just saw this very interesting thread.

I dont own the G73SW but i own the little brother G53SW-XN1.
I have recently upgraded to 2860qm and i am wondering if there is a way to upgrade the GPU to something better.
I am particulalry interested in 680m.

If i just buy a standard mxm design 680m will it work ?

As far as i know i need to order :

1. The New Card (680m/770m)
2. G73JH Heatsink
3. X-Bracket

Then i need to :
1.Mod the heatsink to fit in my machine
2. Flash Card with Vbios
3. Mod the Nvidia Drivers in order for win to recognize GPU correctly.

Right?

Rector Orbis
12-28-2015, 03:48 PM
If anyone interested I have for sale working GTX 770m with moded bios and Heatsink redy to go in G73. Im going back to 460m because I need HDMI.

Jon2887
01-05-2016, 01:49 AM
If anyone interested I have for sale working GTX 770m with moded bios and Heatsink redy to go in G73. Im going back to 460m because I need HDMI.

Hey Im interested in the card, PM sent.

0neWinged
06-11-2016, 06:29 PM
I recently made a thread on g series notebooks for my g75vw. Stock 660m but upgraded to 780m. Flashed bios with both 660m and 780m vbios. I can't get it to boot past ROG boot screen. Here is the link to the thread. Any help would be appreciated here.

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?85716-G75VW-Deep-Bios-Help&

Since you have successfully have done this in the g73, it has to be possible on the g75.
I'm also curious on upgrading from 180w to 220w, what exactly did you do?

780m and heatsink are both out of a Asus g750jh

Thanks!!

0neWinged
06-12-2016, 10:16 PM
Thank you my friend for the help ;)

Knallebal
09-09-2016, 07:48 PM
Any updates?
Please keep us informed how it went for sake of future users wishing to upgrade their laptops with asus gpu's.

i haven't changed the driver modded by you for almost 2 years

I wanted to play Battlefield 1, the installer forced me to install newer drivers (360 minimum i believe)

so i downloaded the latest nvidiadrivers for my gtx 770m and started to mod the nv_dispi.inf according to this guide:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=377158

went into driver signing mode off installed it, but the installer would not finnish the install :(

can you point me in the right direction once more?

Knallebal
09-09-2016, 08:01 PM
59355

Redfox442
12-16-2016, 06:15 AM
Hello,

I have an Asus g73sw and ive upgraded it to an
n i7 2860qm, and gtx 560m from the original 460m. that was tricky, but i got it working very well and didn't have to do any vbios work. I have decided it is time to upgrade to the 780m and sell the 560m. From all the posts I have read in this thread, ill be needing the standard mxm form factor 780m (dell or clevo... not big asus board), an x bracket, a jh gpu heatsink, and a bigger power brick. I have never done any vbios work so i have no idea where to start with that. I had to boot w/drivers unsigned and edit .inf to get the 560m to work, so if that needs to be done, im up to it. Am i missing anything? I am also open to trying a 965m or quadro m5000m, or 680mx if those are possible since they outperform 780m and are about the same price.

Thanks!