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Coombzy
10-08-2013, 07:49 PM
Hello I was wondering whether the weight on the JW variant is a problem I noticed it was 4.6kg compared to the 2.7-3kg of most GTX 765M laptops however I really like the look of the laptop so I am considering it as a college/portable powerhouse system
would I really care if I carried it in a laptop bag until I needed to get it out in lessons etc or should I consider other options?

Flea0
10-08-2013, 08:44 PM
it weighs about 4 kg, not 4.6, not counting the power supply. It's heavier than other laptops but a man shouldn't even be bothered by it. what might be an issue is it's sheer size: the 17" screen is 21 cm long vertically but the laptop is a LOT (11 cm!) longer than that depth-wise due to the cooling system, on the back, so it might be a hassle to position safely on those tiny university desks. invest in a GOOD laptop backpack.

Coombzy
10-08-2013, 08:49 PM
not really worried about the size of the desks due to them being quite large not 1 table per person I am used to a 17.3 inch on my old laptop so the size is fine also I was worried about for example having it in a laptop bag with college timetables books etc weight wise.

Flea0
10-08-2013, 08:54 PM
I remember my middle school backpack weighing almost 10 kg with all the goddamn books they had us carry. I think you'll be fine, although you will be the one with the heaviest, bulkiest backpack.

Coombzy
10-08-2013, 09:14 PM
well thanks for the quick response and input looks like I may go for it then

cl-Albert
10-08-2013, 09:51 PM
Can you get one of those 'rolling' backpacks that you can roll around on the ground instead?
You back will probably thank you for it?

Coombzy
10-08-2013, 10:44 PM
not using a backpack I use a laptop bag like a briefcase type thing.

Flea0
10-08-2013, 11:06 PM
well then make sure it's well padded because the weight of the laptop is a threat to the pc itself. it's going to have a LOT of inertia if you bang it against a table. One more thing, be aware that the G750 is a powerhouse when plugged in. On battery it's much less impressive, which should be obvious but many users are surprised by this.

Coombzy
10-08-2013, 11:08 PM
if I had to run off battery would the i7's 4600 iGPU kick in or is it disabled?

Flea0
10-08-2013, 11:14 PM
it is physically disabled, aka no software fix for that, which is both a curse and a blessing since it avoids all the headaches that optimus still causes but obviously handicaps the laptop when off the mains.

Myroslav
10-08-2013, 11:17 PM
On battery it's much less impressive, which should be obvious but many users are surprised by this.

How?

Coombzy
10-08-2013, 11:20 PM
ah its a shame then I was hoping I could disabled the dedicated gpu when off the mains surely there is a BIOS option or is that locked as well?

Myroslav
10-08-2013, 11:35 PM
ah its a shame then I was hoping I could disabled the dedicated gpu when off the mains surely there is a BIOS option or is that locked as well?

Intel gpu is physically soldered off. It works fine with 765m throttling back. For regular use, jw holds for 3-4 hours without issues.

Coombzy
10-08-2013, 11:39 PM
does it perform like a 4600 or better off battery I may want to sit and game in the cafe for a little while on break if I can't get to a classroom

cl-Albert
10-08-2013, 11:39 PM
Well, there was an issue with the G750 series older bios and battery performance which was fixed with the newer bios.
If you change the Power4Gear setting on battery power with the newer bios, it should help with the battery life some.

You may want to discuss more after you get the notebook, and there is a sticky thread Processor stuck at .77Ghz when unplugged [solved w/new bios] (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?35062-Processor-stuck-at-.77Ghz-when-unplugged-solved-w-new-bios&country=&status=) about the old G750 bios and battery performance issue if you're interested.

Flea0
10-08-2013, 11:47 PM
How?
there's an upper limit to the safe power output of a laptop battery pack; the peak power draw of a gaming GPU + a stressed CPU is well above that ceiling.

Flea0
10-08-2013, 11:49 PM
does it perform like a 4600 or better off battery I may want to sit and game in the cafe for a little while on break if I can't get to a classroom
I have the 770M, perhaps Myroslav could try running 3dmark on battery on his JW?

Coombzy
10-09-2013, 12:02 AM
3dmark or any game will do I will mostly be on AC power but sometimes you have to move to a cafe or something don't want my laptop to suddenly be as slow as my old one.

hmscott
10-09-2013, 12:08 AM
If you are a slight person, then the weight might be tiring for you at first, and like Flea0 said, a Man shouldn't have any problem with the weight.

The weight will quickly ruin cheap laptop bags - the hefting shoulder strap will roll/collapse - I have a few bags that look like new but I can't use them with my laptops due to the weight - the straps are close to failure.

I have an Oakley bag that is 4 years old, carried an Asus W90 18" laptop for a long time, and other notebooks as well, and it is still like new - shoulder strap wasn't fazed.

And, like Flea0 said the inertia from swinging that laptop will be a lethal combination to both the laptop and whatever it hits :)

I didn't notice any weight difference between the JW and JX. They are both a lot lighter than the W90.

I would say go for it, and you will grow used to it over time. :)

Flea0
10-09-2013, 12:11 AM
well if you want to compare it to the 4600 you obviously need a benchmark score. my old laptop, an envy 15 with a first gen i5, couldn't play a 1080p mkv movie smoothly when on battery. of course the g750 is better, just don't expect it to run any modern mainstream game when it's power starved.

Coombzy
10-09-2013, 12:41 AM
Myroslav could you run 3dmark or a benchmark off battery? Flea said it would give me an accurate comparison of the slower GTX 765m on battery vs something like intel 4600

Zygomorphic
10-09-2013, 01:59 AM
Yeah, I've gone through backpacks because of the weight of my G53SX. It's a (somewhat lighter) tank too. Make sure that you get something protected, and keep an eye on those shoulder straps. Oh, and depending on how your spine is curved, be careful about bending forward, since the vertebrae in your spine can dig into the notebook.

hmscott
10-09-2013, 03:31 AM
...depending on how your spine is curved, be careful about bending forward, since the vertebrae in your spine can dig into the notebook.

Hardcore +10! :cool:

Carry the laptop opposite the sway, and turn the S into an I...

Myroslav
10-09-2013, 07:09 AM
Myroslav could you run 3dmark or a benchmark off battery? Flea said it would give me an accurate comparison of the slower GTX 765m on battery vs something like intel 4600

Sorry for the delay. I actually did not have any of the 3dMarks installed, so i got the free versions for the testing purpose. Just to clarify, on battery CPU gets throttled up to 28%, but the CPU temperature never rises above 70 degC for me. When i am on power and is stress CPU, its at high 80s low 90s range. As far as GPU, it gets throttled a lot, the memory clock drops a huge amount. You can play average games on lower settings comfortably (or at least i think so). So things like WoW or LoL can run fine. Anything else tends to eat**** and makes you watch a slideshow. That being said:

3dM'06 (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/17406858) (plugged in) 3dM'06 (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/17406915) (battery)
3dM'11 (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7284534) (plugged in) 3dM'11 (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7285019) (battery)
3dM (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/1364822) (plugged in) 3dM (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/1365269) (battery)
XTU (http://hwbot.org/xtu/analyze/2435727) (plugged in) XTU (http://hwbot.org/xtu/analyze/2435729) (battery)

and two images for cinebench (guess which one is which):
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/826/4ihm.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img826/8506/4ihm.png) vs http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/513/rdb.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img513/8563/rdb.png)

And to complete this post, my XTU and GPUT settings:
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/209/1plo.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img209/4926/1plo.png/) and http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/12/1a18.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img12/4729/1a18.png/)

Zygomorphic
10-09-2013, 10:27 AM
Hardcore +10! :cool:

Carry the laptop opposite the sway, and turn the S into an I...
Something like that, though it's the upper part of your back that is the issue - at least, it is for me, since I don't like my backpack hanging down over the backside...

Coombzy
10-09-2013, 04:46 PM
well I ended up ordering it regardless hope it was a good decision

Massquatch
10-10-2013, 03:18 PM
Weight and battery life can be an issue, sure. I look at this machine as a desktop replacement than you can take with you if you wish. Like anything there are some sacrifices to be made. If weight and less than stellar battery life aren't really an issue, then pick one up. If your willing to deal with those downsides to get all the big upsides that comes with this computer, then I'd say walk, don't run and get one.

iweber95
10-10-2013, 08:34 PM
Weight and battery life can be an issue, sure. I look at this machine as a desktop replacement than you can take with you if you wish. Like anything there are some sacrifices to be made. If weight and less than stellar battery life aren't really an issue, then pick one up. If your willing to deal with those downsides to get all the big upsides that comes with this computer, then I'd say walk, don't run and get one.

I completely agree if you want a gaming powerhouse you are not going to get a light small pc