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FromKyoto
12-31-2013, 10:22 AM
Hi mates,

I just bought a G750JX with a single hdd.
I use it for game (really?), and especially for video editing, music and 3d renders, and the single hard disk as
you know its a bit low.

I'm torn about that Velociraptor and Samsung...or Crucial M4 maybe.
These are gonna be used only for Windows 8 and some editing software.

The ssd is reliable ?
On my desktop pc i have already the Velociraptor by 6 years without any problem.

Thanks

hmscott
12-31-2013, 10:36 AM
Hi mates,

I just bought a G750JX with a single hdd.
I use it for game (really?), and especially for video editing, music and 3d renders, and the single hard disk as
you know its a bit low.

I'm torn about that Velociraptor and Samsung...or Crucial M4 maybe.
These are gonna be used only for Windows 8 and some editing software.

The ssd is reliable ?
On my desktop pc i have already the Velociraptor by 6 years without any problem.

Thanks

Velociraptor 's are Dinosaurs :)

Barney Ruble and Fred Flintstone broke up rocks with Dinosaur heads... ;)

The day of the fast HD is gone, until the next innovation...

SSD is the only way to go. The SSD lifespan will outlast your use of it. I have a 3+ years old first gen Crucial C300 256GB 2.5" that has lived through several builds, and it is sitting there staring at me looking for it's next gig. It has a lot of Terrabytes and hours on it, and it is still all green in tests. Also, still amazingly fast.

My experience with a 512GB Samsung 840 Pro in the G750JW and JX was steallar... only over shadowed by the massive speed of the JH RAID SSD's 530MB/sec => 1000+MB/sec. The 1TB Hitachi spinning rock gets 87MB/sec...

The new Samsung Evo's are "relatively inexpensive"... just keep repeating that to yourself, and jump the $ shark and get a nice sized one and fall in love with how fast your laptop does everything IO related :)

FromKyoto
12-31-2013, 10:56 AM
Ahahahahah, i'm sorry for the name.
I thought it was obvious that i was talking about the Western D.
The problem is that my professor of computer science has advised me to not take the ssds. :D
Nevermind, i said that Samsung model 'cause a well informed friend said it is a good one.
But personally, going around to the other forums i saw that the Crucial M4 its more reliable and "honest".

Zygomorphic
12-31-2013, 11:06 AM
SSDs are faster, but just to be safe, make sure you back everything up - as you should anyway, so this is a moot point. I used to be pretty well set against the SSDs, but I've been coming round to the dark side of the force. :D The velociraptor drives do not work in notebooks by the way, because of the power draw, vibration, and heat. They are meant for high-end desktops (before SSDs came about).

hmscott
12-31-2013, 11:11 AM
Ahahahahah, i'm sorry for the name.
I thought it was obvious that i was talking about the Western D.
The problem is that my professor of computer science has advised me to not take the ssds. :D
Nevermind, i said that Samsung model 'cause a well informed friend said it is a good one.
But personally, going around to the other forums i saw that the Crucial M4 its more reliable and "honest".

Having had both the C300, which is still faster than the M4, and the Samsung Pro, I can say that both are awesome. The Samsung Pro has a 5 year warranty, the Evo 3 years, and the M4 3 years... doing the math on any of them - figuring in the reserve area - all of them could run out of steam - replaceable blocks - eventually.

The way I think about it is, the SSD is just too damn fast to not use. Even if it is like gasoline - I burn it up and I buy more ;)

But, like I said the C300 is still going strong - I don't have it set up now to show you, but it has a lot of usage and is still running fine.

I always back up what I have on the SSD, image and folder backups, just in case, but so far it has been an exercise that I haven't needed to use the results of, yet.

I wanted to mention that I always remove the HD in a laptop and make it external after I replace it with an SSD, to keep the heat and power usage outside the laptop system.

Let us know what you decide, and how it works out for you. :)

Here are the results of CrystalDiskMark on each:

G750JH 1TB Hitachi
31777

G750JW 512GB Samsung 840 Pro
31778

G750JH RAID 2x128GB
31779

SHADO
12-31-2013, 11:59 AM
Forgive my ignorance, but aren't the WD Velociraptor HDD's 3.5" drives that won't fit in a laptop?

hmscott
12-31-2013, 12:10 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but aren't the WD Velociraptor HDD's 3.5" drives that won't fit in a laptop?

SHADO, yes, and no :)

"IcePack mounting frame.
The 2.5-inch hard drive is enclosed in a backplane-ready 3.5-inch mounting frame with a built-in heat sink that keeps this powerful little drive extra cool when installed in high-performance desktop chassis. "

31803

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=20

31802

SHADO
12-31-2013, 12:30 PM
Interesting. Thanks! But isn't the bare 2.5" drive still 15mm tall?

hmscott
12-31-2013, 12:35 PM
Interesting. Thanks! But isn't the bare 2.5" drive still 15mm tall?

And it needs +12v... and you can't fix that with the liberal use of a Dremel Tool :-)

SHADO
12-31-2013, 01:00 PM
And it needs +12v... and you can't fix that with the liberal use of a Dremel Tool :-)

LOL! So it won't work in a laptop, which in the end was my original point, but good to learn all the particulars. Thanks again, hmscott! :)

Myk SilentShadow
12-31-2013, 01:11 PM
Why did your Computer Science Professor advise you to not get an SSD? i'd love to hear his reasoning behind this.

chrsplmr
12-31-2013, 05:29 PM
FromKyoto. Welcome to ROG.

First I'd like to simply say, SSD.
It's the choice between a '68 Corvette and 2014 Corvette Z51. Simple.

Second. 'Computer Science Professor' ??? hahahahaa .. No Professor Ever got their job being the
brightest bulb in the box. [nuff about that ... The World would be better served without Them.]

Trust those using and tweaking everyday of the week that only settle for stronger, faster, smarter.
[umm .. ok, they never settle ..if you listen closely you can hear them tweaking even now.] .c.

FromKyoto
12-31-2013, 05:57 PM
Well...this topic it's out.
Thanks for the advice.
Cheers !

FromKyoto
12-31-2013, 06:01 PM
Hi mate,
Thanks for the welcome.
I think you gave a very comprehensive answer.
The professor is one of the old school so I think it still don't trust what the market offers today. (mechanical vs digital, you know).
That's why I asked you, I wanted to take away any doubt.
:)

Shawnnepc
12-31-2013, 06:17 PM
Hi mate,
Thanks for the welcome.
I think you gave a very comprehensive answer.
The professor is one of the old school so I think it still don't trust what the market offers today. (mechanical vs digital, you know).
That's why I asked you, I wanted to take away any doubt.
:)

A computer science profession who is against digital technology.


..I think someone needs to retire ಠ_ಠ


***

Also, I would go for the Samsung PRO (MLC) or the Samsung EVO (TLC) over any others ;)

FromKyoto
12-31-2013, 06:31 PM
Yeah, nice point, isn't ? :D
Can i ask you why Samsung ? :)

chrsplmr
12-31-2013, 07:09 PM
Shawnnepc works with these everyday .. he is well respected here and his word trusted.
That said:
I happen to have one on my desk ready to go in: Why did I choose Samsung 840pro ?

1. It's Samsung.
2. 5yr. warranty.
3. It beats everything else on the planet that's anywhere close in price and
even quite a few costing far more. [256gb does better in reviews than the 128 or 512 btw]
4. I visit the forum and read everyday across the net and to be honest I have yet
to see someone, anyone, suggest otherwise.

Best of Luck .. Keep us 'posted'. .c.

*Retired .. hahhaaa. Indeed.
But then there is the lifetime bloated pension this 'professor' will receive .. makes me sick.
hmmm ...
I guess it is better to pay him to stay home than to pollute any more minds. Let's retire
'Them' All and hire by ability, not political affiliation or socialist/liberal view. [how?]
Even janitors today must be qualified as to today's standards.

FromKyoto
12-31-2013, 07:21 PM
So that's so.
I'm fine. Nice to know it. :D
Well i think to go to the EVO 250gb at least.
I thank you to all. I'm really glad for these responsive answers ! :D
Have a fine day // Year ! :)

chrsplmr
12-31-2013, 07:36 PM
Same to you Kyoto. [Remember, tonight is amateur night, best to stay home. hahahaa]

The EVO is the newer model .. has level 2 cache .. etc.
3yr. warranty.
Nice choice. .c.

FromKyoto
01-01-2014, 01:09 AM
Thanks for the answer hmscott. I just ordered, the EVO 250gb. :D

hmscott
01-01-2014, 01:57 AM
Thanks for the answer hmscott. I just ordered, the EVO 250gb. :D

Cool :)