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Thestroj
02-03-2014, 10:02 PM
Hello everyone,

I would like to start an thread about SSD disk's.
I would like for you guys to post your benchmarks of your SSD's, so everyone who are buying a new SSD can see for them self on wich SSD is best for them. For the rest of us who already have we can see what scores other users have and if our own ssd's are perfoming as they should or even better than they should. :)
I think its a very good idea.


PLEASE add info about your ssd, price, if in raid0, what you use it for and all the tricks and info, tips that u cant think of so we average users can learn something new and try to get the most of our SSD's... :)

U can get simple an very efective benchmark tool here: (free)
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/6014-as-ssd-benchmark.html



Or you could go with the Samsung magician built in benchmark tool, but i think it will be better if we all use the same independent program. I used both.




I have an Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB + 1TB 5400rpm HDD with 16gb of hynix RAM (i added 8 gb myself) inside G750JX.
Here are my test results with RAPID more enabled for better performance (20-50% faster):
33170




Take care

Nystik
02-04-2014, 08:06 AM
I'm about to purchase the Samsung SSD 840 PRO 256GB for my G750JW setup. Hopefully it's as good as everyone says it is!

JMourao
02-04-2014, 10:17 AM
ok you have activated the RAPID Mode, that in those test get boosted up quite a lot, it becames indeed faster(nothing specially that you would notice)

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-840-evo-review-1tb-ssd,3567-14.html

Later on i will post my scores, i have a samsung 840 pro 256gb

And lets choose a program that will process everythin in common, like crystal disk mark with standard configurations

nazgullz
02-04-2014, 11:10 AM
got pretty low score with liteonit lcs-256m6s no idea why

aonavy
02-04-2014, 11:43 AM
damn! Thats is one fast SSD. Is that right out of the box?

Myk SilentShadow
02-04-2014, 12:04 PM
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/RMDisk_zps24e70fc3.png

Awww snap! looks like your score is now not so good :cool: :p

haihane
02-04-2014, 12:06 PM
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/RMDisk_zps24e70fc3.png

Awww snap! looks like your score is now not so good :cool: :p

aw come on, RAMdisk/ RAMcaches don't count.
that's SSD on steroids.

Myk SilentShadow
02-04-2014, 12:12 PM
aw come on, RAMdisk/ RAMcaches don't count.
that's SSD on steroids.

Hehehe yep and you wanna know something funny? those speeds are only from using 1600 MHz frequency...I bet if I tuned my RAM to 2133(if I got lucky without OCing my CPU) the numbers would sooooooooooar :D

aonavy
02-04-2014, 12:15 PM
I was thinking on getting another 2x128GB setup like in the JH setup and raiding all 4. You know where i can get the card and SSD's?

Thestroj
02-04-2014, 02:02 PM
I dont think everyone understood what was the point of this thread.

My point was not "LOOK AT MY SSD SPEED" cause its realy not that special. Specialy cause i have an low end G750JX, wich came with 1 TB 5400 rpm HDD and 8 GB of ram. So i upgraded with +1x 250GB ssd and 8 GB of the same hynix ram that was already indide. I Spend 307 EUR for both, purched in EU in my local PC shop.
My SSD is out of the box, with rapid mode enabled and OS Optimization set to maximum performance. All that was done in Samsung Magician program that came with SSD.


I realy hoped that this thred would be different than it is. And if anyone want to leave a post with: MY SSD IS FASTER!... etc.... please dont... Please be in more use and write something that we can benefit from. Tips, tircks good ssd deals, your speeds prior to adjusting your performance.
If anyone else wants to post, please post your SSD type, specs, benchmarks, price, and if possible trick, programs or any kind of tips for SSD maintance, and performance boosting...



This is my frist SSD, and i learned that u can use Samsung Magician program that comes with SSD, to boost up the performance of your SSD. U have a thing called OS Optimization: OS optimization helps your configure your OS to work best with your SSD. You have 4 options: Maximum performance, max capacity, max reliability and advanced(custom). There is also an advanced RAPID mode wich enhances the overall system performance, but it has an limitation it accelerates only ONE SSD, even though system may have more than one!


I devided my SSD into 2 partitions. One has OS on it, and other holds bigger programs such as Photoshop, Corel Draw, Illiustrator and Aftereffects...


There is a very big difference in performance if comparing 5400rpm 1TB drive wich came with the laptop. Its like day and night. Esecialy at booting or opening programs and huge projects (1-10GB) in illustrator. Saving or exporting files hasnt increased that much, but overall performance is better.



Thats just my 2 cents about my SSD expirience, im not an expert by any means, just an average user. If anyone is thinking aboout buying one, GO FOR IT!
IMO u should go with 250mb+ SSD's only, cause they are full very fast. Im


Thank you and take care...

Praz
02-04-2014, 02:47 PM
All i wanted is to have a thread for future SSD buyers to see what are the real disks speeds, prices and tricks to boost up the performance of certian SSD's.
Then why use Rapid Mode? You are benching the ram cache not the drive. I would suggest to keep the playing field level everyone posting in this thread download and install FancyCache linked below before running the benchmark.

http://www.romexsoftware.com/en-us/fancy-cache/

Thestroj
02-04-2014, 03:27 PM
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/RMDisk_zps24e70fc3.png

Awww snap! looks like your score is now not so good :cool: :p

LOL, didnt even think that my SSD is fast. But that's excatcly why i opened that post, TO LEARN SOME MORE.
Im just an average user, and wish to learn some more. Could you tell me wich SSD your have, how much did it cost and how did get that kind of performance and large increase of the performance was it with the adjustemnts that u did.

My ssd is out of the box, I only made some options in Samsung Magician (RAPID mode enabled).

Praz
02-04-2014, 03:45 PM
To expand on my previous post below is my Vector with Rapid Mode like enhancement.

Thestroj
02-04-2014, 03:45 PM
This is my fist SSD and im just an average user. I tried to benchmark my ssd with the options in Magician that i have selected. I have noticed my system perform faster.
Then i was trying to find a post about this on the formus to get some more information on this topic, and could find one. So i wanted to create a thread with all the info, tips and tricks from the users who have more knowledge than me. Instead of getting tips, help or anything usefull i get bashing and responcse from bunch of "kids" who act like they were offended by me. With what?

1. @ Praz - Im so sorry but could u please explain to me why not use RAID mode in benchmarking and what it actualy does - and if it is good to use it or not. All i know about it that RAPID mode enabled made my laptop faster. I think lots of ppl will be very happy to know too.

2. Wich Program would be the best to get acurate benchmark numbers?

EDIT: Ok so now i understand that using RAPID mode displays benchmarking scores better than they actualy are. Why is that?

Thx and take care

Myk SilentShadow
02-04-2014, 03:48 PM
LOL, didnt even think that my SSD is fast. But that's excatcly why i opened that post, TO LEARN SOME MORE.
Im just an average user, and wish to learn some more. Could you tell me wich SSD your have, how much did it cost and how did get that kind of performance and large increase of the performance was it with the adjustemnts that u did.

My ssd is out of the box, I only made some options in Samsung Magician (RAPID mode enabled).

Allow me to be the one to blow your mind and introduce you to what is called RAM Disks/RAM Cache. That my friend, is a score based not on an SSD, but, a virtual software drive that is created using System Memory aka RAM. Yes, SSD's are fast....but, you would need to RAID a few of them(probably more than 6) together on a RAID card to get numbers close to my result.

Praz
02-04-2014, 03:52 PM
There is nothing wrong with Rapid Mode and it does bring increased performance that is noticeable. However, you stated the point of this thread was to compare performance between different SSDs. Using Rapid mode does not do this. Rapid Mode creates a cache using system ram. When running the benchmarks the data is read and written to that ram and not the drive so the results do not show the performance of the drive. Because others are pointing out this flaw is not a reason for name calling.

Praz
02-04-2014, 03:54 PM
Sweet jeebus!!! how the hell is that possible with just using a cache on drive? holy cow I never thought it was possible......
LOL. FancyCache. Haswell at 4800MHz and 32GB of ram at 2500MHz.

Myk SilentShadow
02-04-2014, 03:55 PM
LOL. FancyCache. Haswell at 4800MHz and 32GB of ram at 2500MHz.

Nice!! didn't realise Hybrid SSD/RAM Caches were that good. I am blown away.

Praz
02-04-2014, 04:05 PM
Nice!! didn't realise Hybrid SSD/RAM Caches were that good. I am blown away.
FancyCache is free while in Beta which is the state it's been in forever. For me with a stable system there have been no issues with it and I have used if for a long time. I think Raja is still using it also. It's nice for SSDs as you can defer the writes and it also supports Trim for the data in the cache. Give it a try.

Myk SilentShadow
02-04-2014, 04:16 PM
FancyCache is free while in Beta which is the state it's been in forever. For me with a stable system there have been no issues with it and I have used if for a long time. I think Raja is still using it also. It's nice for SSDs as you can defer the writes and it also supports Trim for the data in the cache. Give it a try.

Cheers for the tip mate...may have to try and tune up my RAM and go through and see what figures I can pull out with my /Sarcasm awesome Corsair XMS3 1600MHz 8GB kit :cool: \Sarcasm lol :p

aonavy
02-04-2014, 04:34 PM
how you get these speeds not being an EVO SSD?

edited: never mind..need to keep reading :)

ThatGuy_ZA
02-05-2014, 06:37 AM
My Samsung 840 EVO in my G750JW. I'm really enjoying this laptop
http://oi43.tinypic.com/25sptnt.jpg

noone
02-05-2014, 07:16 AM
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt241/nooneGTI/SSDBench5-2-14_zps09f002d7.png (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/nooneGTI/media/SSDBench5-2-14_zps09f002d7.png.html)
No Turbo/Rapid, JW with 8gig ram. Feels fast to me, but you boys are getting some crazy speeds.

Nystik
02-07-2014, 02:23 PM
http://i62.tinypic.com/167uh77.png

Not sure why my results are so low in comparison, on the Samsung 840 pro.

Any suggestions?

ThatGuy_ZA
02-08-2014, 06:27 AM
No Turbo/Rapid, JW with 8gig ram. Feels fast to me, but you boys are getting some crazy speeds.

Enable RAPID!!! I've also got a JW with 8gb of RAM and I'm loving it. With my old PC I would turn it on, make a cup of coffee and come back to my desktop but now I turn it on and something like 12 seconds later I'm watching my favourite porn in chrome. Awesome little machines.

Nehmia
02-08-2014, 09:03 AM
Here is my shabby score, I cannot even compare to you guys wiht Samsung SSD:

http://i60.tinypic.com/21o2frb.png

Using IRST 12.8.0.1016

cronik916
02-10-2014, 01:35 AM
this is my 840 pro 256gb with rapid on. since i dont have 2 to raid that i dont see the point to not have rapid on.

KoolASUS
02-10-2014, 05:53 PM
My Liteonid score. No tweaking. 16 GB RAM. Not the fastest, but still so much faster than a mechanical HDD. Boots (wakes) in less than 5 secs.

33343

noone
02-10-2014, 11:21 PM
Enable RAPID!!! I've also got a JW with 8gb of RAM and I'm loving it. With my old PC I would turn it on, make a cup of coffee and come back to my desktop but now I turn it on and something like 12 seconds later I'm watching my favourite porn in chrome. Awesome little machines.

Mine is just as fast, just not sure I need the SSD to be faster at the sacrifice of using the RAM.
As I'm new to SSD, not sure if this would actually make anything faster or just crowd the RAM bus which I want to keep for gaming.
Probably not much of a real world difference either way for my needs.

rdiscipio1
02-11-2014, 03:04 AM
Almost everything I have read says that RAPID does virtually nothing for real (average user) world usage and can/does in fact hinder some performance. I prefer not to use it as I have not noticed a difference one way or the other aside from benchmarks, so why...?

cronik916
02-12-2014, 04:25 AM
i have 32gb of ram so i got to use it for something. the samsung 840pro 256gb realllllly flys tho. i have the 128gb evo in my desktop rig and its not nearly as fast. well its really fast but not really really fast.