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Lil Godwin
02-21-2014, 12:43 AM
I can hardly believe I'm having this complaint already, but I'm noticing some lag in my laptop already and I'm not even really stressing it yet. Bought the G750JW about a month and a half ago, converted to Windows 7 on an Samsung 120 SSD, kept the HD for most everything else, installed some basic programs (Adobe Suite, Office, etc.), and threw on the Asus GPU Tweak settings to 997/881/6288 as has been suggested on here for a good reliable boost. I've been doing some work with Publisher/Photoshop the past few days, and today, and I'm noticing some significant lag in the programs. I have to wait for simple filters to process, and little windows within the programs to close. I don't understand. What gives?

Lil Godwin
02-21-2014, 05:33 AM
I've also noticed some slow response times during Visual Studio compiling for my programming class. I just can't understand why my i7-4700 appears to be slow while doing such simple tasks.

*And no, it's not a plugged/unplugged issue. It just appears to lag like it's not such a good processor.

Even my previous laptop (HP Pavilion dv7) ran photoshop just fine with no issues an didn't have a compiling lag in Visual Studio.



Please Help?

noone
02-21-2014, 01:09 PM
Rebooted?

How much idle memory? Idle CPU usage?

Have you checked temps?

Lil Godwin
02-21-2014, 04:16 PM
GPU temp didn't reach over 63 during benchmark. Results here: BENCHMARK RESULTS. (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/2508462)

Obviously the results are poor, and I'm at a loss as to why. GPU settings, as stated above with GPU Tweak are 997/881/6288. Doesn't seem to have made any difference from my original tests before GPU tweak.

Idle memory sits at 2.99-3.13/16GB.

CPU Usage moves around between 0-2%.

Have I rebooted the laptop? If that's what you're asking, then yes, I have.

Lil Godwin
02-21-2014, 04:23 PM
Also, I'm about to remove some of the programs/suites from the HDD and install them on the SSD, though I think it's ridiculous I have to do that (if it helps speed up the processing times). As I believe I've said, my old HP Pavilion DV7 laptop was running photoshop and visual studio just fine without any lags and all it had was an HDD. I thought the g750jw should have been more than sufficient for me even right out of the box. I definitely didn't expect to be having issues with my typical usage.

noone
02-22-2014, 12:52 AM
Poor results? Um, no? My results are lower than that (very slightly) with the JW and a lower Memory clock.

How about XTU benchmarking? The things you're reporting seem to point to CPU issues, not GPU. I wound my multipliers back a little as it was getting too hot in benchmarks. Not saying this is the answer, but CPU heat has been an issue noted elsewhere (possibly due to poor paste jobs).

63 deg is very cool for those numbers, I'd be mid 70's.

Memory usage? I'd be looking to more stress tests / benchmakrs / monitoring temps on CPU to determine the issue. Also, when you're throttling is the best time to look at CPU / Mem usage, could be RAM is not being recognised or something simple.

Darnassus
02-22-2014, 02:50 PM
My thought is Windows 7 Post Updates. I've installed a system fresh with Win7, then once I am on service pack 1 with everything else installed, things cramp up.

Lil Godwin
02-23-2014, 01:39 AM
I actually am contemplating going back to Windows 8 in a few weeks when i get a break from school. Maybe that is the issue, I don't know.

noone, I actually have another thread pertaining to an issue I'm having with XTU. I can't get it to even start. And when I previously could, it wouldn't show any tuning options. No idea. Another reason I think switching back to Windows 8 may just be the way to go.

Myk SilentShadow
02-23-2014, 02:11 AM
How much RAM do you have in your laptop mate? problem could be related to low Memory

Lil Godwin
02-23-2014, 03:14 AM
i have upgraded from 8gb to 16gb, all of which are showing up properly...

Myk SilentShadow
02-23-2014, 03:51 AM
Ok, what's the total of RAM used?

Lil Godwin
02-23-2014, 04:23 AM
Task Manager says:

Physical Memory (MB)
Total 16301
Cached 1768
Available 12986
Free 11440

noone
02-23-2014, 05:45 AM
I've said it a few times, you need to stress test, could be the new ram is the issue, but without some tests it could be anything.

CPU test, RAM test, HDD test. If all those show no excess heat and no faults, then think about RMA (or someone else will have other ideas)

Lil Godwin
02-23-2014, 05:48 AM
I cannot get XTU to operate properly, not sure if that's one way to do a CPU test or not. Either way, I'm not sure how either of those 3 tests are actually completed.

Lil Godwin
02-24-2014, 03:30 PM
I've found a program that tests all the things you were asking for, though I don't know if it tests them well enough. But here are the results.

Link to Scores (http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/display.php?id=20442059585)

And the visual, more descriptive, scores.

33821

I'm also throwing in most of the system information taken by Passmark mostly to reduce any further simple questions, but also to show that all 4 sticks of RAM are being accessed properly and to show the temperatures at the bottom.

Memory Information:
Total Physical Memory: 16301MB
Available Physical Memory: 12962MB
Memory Devices:
Slot 1: 4 PC3-12800
Samsung M471B5173QH0-YK0, serial#: 918980472, wk/yr: 38/2013
1.5V, 1.35V , Clk: 800.0MHz, Timings 11-11-11-28 (@ Max. freq.)

Slot 2: 4 PC3-12800
Samsung M471B5173BH0-YK0, wk/yr: 11/2013
1.5V, 1.35V , Clk: 800.0MHz, Timings 11-11-11-28 (@ Max. freq.)

Slot 3: 4 PC3-12800
Samsung M471B5173QH0-YK0, serial#: 918973527, wk/yr: 38/2013
1.5V, 1.35V , Clk: 800.0MHz, Timings 11-11-11-28 (@ Max. freq.)

Slot 4: 4 PC3-12800
Samsung M471B5173BH0-YK0, wk/yr: 11/2013
1.5V, 1.35V , Clk: 800.0MHz, Timings 11-11-11-28 (@ Max. freq.)

Virtual Memory: C:\pagefile.sys (16301MB)

Drive Information:
Physical Drive 1: HGST HTS541010A9E680 SCSI Disk Device
Drive Size: 931GB
Partitions: G:
Interface Type: SATA
Bytes per Sector: 512
RPM: 5400

Physical Drive 2: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120G SCSI Disk Device
Drive Size: 111GB
Partitions: C:
Interface Type: SATA
Bytes per Sector: 512
RPM: Solid State

Optical Drive 1: Slimtype DVD A DS8A9SH SCSI CdRom Device
Optical Drive 2:

Volume Information:
Volume 1: C:
File System: NTFS
Drive Cluster Size: 4KB
Volume Size (Free space): 111.7GB (57.9GB)
Volume 2: D:
File System:
Drive Cluster Size:
Volume Size (Free space):
Volume 3: G:
File System: NTFS
Drive Cluster Size: 4KB
Volume Size (Free space): 930.2GB (845.1GB)

Video Adapters:
Description: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M
Chip Type: GeForce GTX 765M
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Memory: 2048MB
Video BIOS: Version 80.6.54.0.1d
Driver Provider: NVIDIA
Driver Version: 9.18.13.3182
Driver Date: 11-11-2013
Monitor 1: 1920x1080x32 60Hz (Primary monitor)

Temperatures:
Description: CPU 0 average
Temperature: 53.25C
Description: CPU 0 core 0
Temperature: 59.00C
Description: CPU 0 core 1
Temperature: 52.00C
Description: CPU 0 core 2
Temperature: 51.00C
Description: CPU 0 core 3
Temperature: 51.00C
Description: HDD 1 (HGST HTS541010A9E680 SCSI Disk Device)
Temperature: 30.00C
Description: GPU 0 (nVIDIA)
Temperature: 52.00C

Lil Godwin
02-24-2014, 03:35 PM
From the looks of the scores, I really shouldn't have any complaints, but that's why I'm even more baffled that vs. my older hp computer (which busted, the reason for picking up the JW), this laptop can't handle simple tasks from photoshop, or a few lines of compiled code from visual studio, without a noticeable delay. For something so simple, it should complete these things in the blink of an eye. I literally tried a basic filter in photoshop and had to wait longer than expected, sub-menu windows in publisher take 1-2 seconds to go away after clicked, and there's a good 2 second delay for compiling probably 100 lines of code in visual studio when testing a simple program.

Lil Godwin
02-27-2014, 07:50 PM
Could my problem lie in the use of an SSD and HDD? Given that the OS is on the SSD, will there automatically be a delay in the programs installed on the HDD since the drives have to 'talk' to each other? That is the only sensible explanation that I could come up with. Though, I'm not even certain that's a valid reason.

reka121402
02-27-2014, 10:24 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but the HDD in the 750JW is a 5400rpm drive correct? If so that would explain why you are seeing good benches and bad program load times. Put your most demanding program (you said Photoshop correct?) on the SDD and see if that helps.

It could also be Windows 7 as already mentioned. For a long time there was zero support for W7, I'm not sure if that has changed or not.

Lil Godwin
02-28-2014, 02:03 AM
Yeah, thanks for the little bit of validation. I'll definitely be moving over the adobe suite, office, and other programs to the SSD in a few weeks when I get a break from school. Hopefully I have enough room for ESO when it comes out in April. I now know I should have got a bigger SSD instead of the 120. So much has already been utilized by the OS. If that is the fix though, I'll be much happier.