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tkolarik
02-28-2014, 06:05 AM
I find it hard to believe the admins and mods allow open discussions here involving software piracy and violations of terms of service in openly discussing Hackintoshs. Apple finds out, Asus will not have enough lawyers!

Darnassus
02-28-2014, 06:50 AM
Exactly where are these threads / discussions?

angrylemon
02-28-2014, 07:41 AM
Doubt Apple will do anything, they might sue Asus for using round edges on the screen like the G750 has :rolleyes:

Norup58
02-28-2014, 08:25 AM
Exactly where are these threads / discussions?

Maybe OP is referring to this thread:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?39406-ASUS-G750JX-OSX-Mavericks-INSTALL-GUIDE&country=&status=

Must admit I smiled and shook my head when I read the thread.

Darnassus
02-28-2014, 09:31 AM
Well, that thread just makes it look that iOS is desirable I guess.

I don't personally see it as a problem ;d

Myk SilentShadow
02-28-2014, 09:48 AM
I'm pretty sure there is no piracy going on with Hackinstoshes, most users here buy their OSes for their needs. The only thing that gets broken is Terms of Use.

Praz
02-28-2014, 02:24 PM
Hello

A Hackintosh is a violation of Apple's EULA. However, ASUS does not condone nor support this usage. The forum Terms of Use Notice clearly states that the person(s) providing any information to the forum is the one responsible for that information as to its legal constraints. Any discussion of pirated software is acted upon immediately by ASUS.

tkolarik
02-28-2014, 03:13 PM
You are wrong, Praz. The thread is still up! OSX Mavericks Install!

In order to install Mavericks on a PC, first a person has to obtain a copy of Apple software, usually illegally from torrents. The other way is to buy an upgrade disk from Apple from an earlier version of Mac OSX. The software is then illegally modified to allow it to install on non-Apple hardware, not including the fact that it violates the Apple ToE. Even if the original upgrade software was purchased, Mavericks is only free to download and upgrade only to existing versions of Mac OSX, no authorized version, then obtaining the software is theft or piracy.

Lot of issues with that discussion thread!

Praz
02-28-2014, 03:23 PM
You are wrong, Praz. The thread is still up! OSX Mavericks Install!
Hello

Sorry but I am not wrong. Nowhere in that thread will you find any ASUS employees participating. Thus no ASUS support. Also as I noted above the forum member is ultimately responsible for what he is posting per the forum's Terms of Use Notice. You are assuming that any Apple software discussed in that thread was obtained illegally. Unfortunately an assumption cannot be used as fact. If this is a real concern for you I would suggest contacting Apple and if they feel as you do they can discuss this with ASUS

tkolarik
02-28-2014, 08:29 PM
Praz,

Let me say that I don't have a dog in this fight. I like you guys and I have 3 Asus computers and another with an Asus MB and 2 Asus Radeon and Nvidia GTX cards. I just think that Asus is making a mistake by hosting that thread. It's different to discuss the merits of hackintosing but to facilitate their use by hosting a how-to guide is probably a bad decision.

It's kind of funny to think we have to agree to Asus Terms of Use so we can discuss violating another company's Terms of Use!

Zygomorphic
03-01-2014, 11:21 AM
I am no lawyer, but if my understanding of the DMCA is correct, Apple cannot sue ASUS for the threads, even if they wanted to. They could send a take-down notice, and then one of us would have to delete the thread, but ASUS is not responsible for the actions of those who use its services. Now if ASUS does it, then they are liable. We'll let the ASUS guys weigh in on this, and decide on the route going forward.

_
03-01-2014, 02:35 PM
Software piracy is an absolute no-no. Please report posts that admit to it or encourage it.

The points raised here will be discussed as to ASUS' position on legality, as we like to air on the side of freedom of voice when possible. ASUS' position is that we strongly recommend sticking with the Windows OS pre-installed on the laptops we sell, but ultimately once you buy it what you do with it is entirely your choice; we will not support it beyond the OS we provide.

gazzacbr
03-02-2014, 08:32 AM
You are wrong, Praz. The thread is still up! OSX Mavericks Install!

In order to install Mavericks on a PC, first a person has to obtain a copy of Apple software, usually illegally from torrents. The other way is to buy an upgrade disk from Apple from an earlier version of Mac OSX. The software is then illegally modified to allow it to install on non-Apple hardware, not including the fact that it violates the Apple ToE. Even if the original upgrade software was purchased, Mavericks is only free to download and upgrade only to existing versions of Mac OSX, no authorized version, then obtaining the software is theft or piracy.

Lot of issues with that discussion thread!

you need to realise the difference between illegal and violation of eula. they are not the same.

i bought my copy of mountain lion and then did a free upgrade to mavericks.
I would not expect any official help or support from anyone at Asus.

but if you check my post #6, i am also surprised the thread is still up ;)

CamainDK
03-03-2014, 02:13 PM
I do see why you feel the need to advertice the IOS thread here, and if it wasnt for you tkolarik, I would never have read it.
Just like I do see why I'm wasting precious seconds of my life to respond to this tread.

Lets meet some day and waste some time together..

Regards