PDA

View Full Version : G750jz-xs72 downgrade from win 8.1 pro 64 to Win 7 64



CapnKerk
05-25-2014, 10:00 PM
fast hardware but to me its being wasted with a poor gaming os and bad drivers, bloatware and WIN 8! gahh... lol
anyway to downgrade to win 7?

hmscott
05-26-2014, 12:48 AM
fast hardware but to me its being wasted with a poor gaming os and bad drivers, bloatware and WIN 8! gahh... lol
anyway to downgrade to win 7?

Windows 7 is just less of the same thing :)

After configuring, patching, and fixing it still grows up to be Windows, you might as well go with the newest generation that supports new hardware and has actual development happening moving forward, that would be Windows 8.1

Newest Windows 8.1 drivers are available in the new G750 JM/JS/JZ download areas. Match the packages you have installed (Programs and Features) against the versions available in the JM download area to start - you should find everything there. There are newer Realtek drivers and wireless drivers elsewhere in the Asus cloud, we post them here from time to time.

G750 support areas:
http://support.asus.com/Search.aspx?SLanguage=en&keyword=g750&ps=10&pn=1

I guess it's time, there are quite a few new Windows 8.1 packages released in May :)

Here is the latest Realtek driver package Version V6.0.1.7224
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Audio&os=30

Here are the latest Bluetooth drivers
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Bluetooth&p=3&ft=27&os=30

Here are the latest WLAN drivers
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=WLAN&os=30

Although I would download from Nvidia and Intel directly, to get the latest drivers, BETA's too, it is nice to know where Asus keeps them
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=VGA&p=3&s=111

HomieOC
05-26-2014, 01:01 AM
HMSCOTT How do you know those are the latest realtek and lan drivers for the G750 JZ from 2014??? WHy doesn't asus post them under the laptop product.. im very confused lol

hmscott
05-26-2014, 01:23 AM
HMSCOTT How do you know those are the latest realtek and lan drivers for the G750 JZ from 2014??? WHy doesn't asus post them under the laptop product.. im very confused lol

The JZ uses the same chipset as all the other laptops with Realtek chipset, that is why Asus has a central point that they update - it saves them time because they don't have to go to 100 download areas and update every time a new driver comes out.

It would be nice if there were a helpful link from each product download page out to every applicable central point, but I haven't found it.

That is just how Asus does it, for a number of years it has been that way.

HomieOC
05-26-2014, 01:28 AM
The JZ uses the same chipset as all the other laptops with Realtek chipset, that is why Asus has a central point that they update - it saves them time because they don't have to go to 100 download areas and update every time a new driver comes out.

It would be nice if there were a helpful link from each product download page out to every applicable central point, but I haven't found it.


That is just how Asus does it, for a number of years it has been that way.

lol what a joke they should tell us.. thank you though... dunno what we would do without you lol seriously.. im saving those links

CapnKerk
05-26-2014, 01:33 AM
tnx bro, also sys info says , G750JZA as system model, bios is G750JZA.205 2/20/2014.

why is there an A?
is 207 for mine?

also when you do a full reset should the
internet be connected?
tnx

hmscott
05-26-2014, 01:43 AM
tnx bro, also sys info says , G750JZA as system model, bios is G750JZA.205 2/20/2014.

why is there an A?
is 207 for mine?

also when you do a full reset should the
internet be connected?
tnx

CapnKerk, I have an JHA, it is a BIOS difference for RAID0 hardware support. When you check for a BIOS update in the JZ download area, get the latest JZA version.

Full reset? Do you mean an F9 recovery or a restore from an Asus Backtracker recovery flash drive?

When I have done the recovery I have had my ethernet connected, and wireless disabled, but I don't know if the recovery needs internet access. Try it, and let us know :)

All the updates since you got the JZ out of the box will need to be done again, so for that, yes you will need the internet to complete the recovery.

CapnKerk
05-26-2014, 01:55 AM
yes f9 the long one also it was supposed to be blue not black but hey newegg..
36987

tnx again

hmscott
05-26-2014, 02:26 AM
yes f9 the long one also it was supposed to be blue not black but hey newegg..
36987 tnx again

CapnKerk, I saw that on newegg too, a Blue G750 - it would have been awesome :)

CapnKerk
05-26-2014, 03:10 AM
0I can get a full refund because it came in black.
I have an alienware 18 with win 7 coming 0n the 10th as the first one was fubar. 3 grand specs so I dunno the aw has the true life screen its awesome and its being built from scratch so if that one is not sealed with factory tape and perfect I may keep this but there will be no bios , driver
or any updates but windows plus an unlocked bios and it scores 7.9 on all windows 7 perf ratings so its a wait and see.
downloading all new drivers and bios for the asus now, well im learning with the asus so that a good thing.

used to build gaming rigs back in the day. all custom theme rigs all my work and mods. see pic its a favorite..

CapnKerk
05-26-2014, 08:35 AM
whats vbios??? I Just updated it.... 36994

before i installed it.. it said optimize intel ms hybrid

optimus graphics? I did it too

CapnKerk
05-26-2014, 08:46 AM
pretty much what my config is in 10 days win7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEYnvlOgJvU&feature=player_detailpage#t=2

CapnKerk
05-26-2014, 08:50 AM
Cool! Asus responds to customer feedback, and there is the response :)

It looks like Asus did the vbios update to improve Optimus - Intel / Nvidia / Optimus function... do notice anything different? :)

nope stays on intel gpu unless iforce it both in global and programs.

CapnKerk
05-26-2014, 08:55 AM
1

210-ACKD

Alienware 18 Base

$2282.08


1

370-AANN

16GB Dual Channel DDR3L at 1600MHz (4x4GB)

$0.00


1

580-ABEK

English Keyboard

$0.00


1

490-BBRX

Dual NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GTX 860M graphics with 4GB total (2x 2GB) GDDR5 - NVIDIA SLI(R) Enabled

$0.00


1

658-BBMF

WLAN Killer 1202 Driver

$0.00


1

408-BBBW

256GB mSATA SSD Boot + 1TB 5400RPM SATA 6Gb/s

$0.00


1

619-ACMQ

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, English

$0.00


1

429-AAGC

Slot-Loading 8x SuperMulti Drive (DVDR/RW)

$0.00


1

555-BBET

Killer NIC 1202 802.11n WiFi and Bluetooth 4.0

$0.00


1

470-AAKG

US 125V Power Cord

$0.00


1

340-ABEU

Documentation, English

$0.00


1

995-6083

Dell Hardware Warranty Plus On-Site Service, Initial Year

$0.00


1

995-6103

In-Home Service after Remote Diagnosis, Parts and Labor On-Site Response, Initial Year

$0.00


1

950-3337

1 Year Limited Warranty

$0.00


1

950-9797

No Warranty, Year 2 and 3

$0.00


1

954-1690

Premium Phone Support, Initial Year

$99.00


1

951-6520

Accidental Damage Service, 1 Year

$99.00


1

338-BETS

4th Generation Intel Core i7-4810MQ processor (Quad Core, 6MB Cache, up 3.8GHz)

$196.18


1

391-BBDS

18.4 inch (467.36mm) WLED FHD (1920 X 1080) TrueLife Display

$0.00


1

451-BBCB

8-cell Lithium Ion (86 wHr) Battery

$0.00


1

450-AAKK

330W A/C Adapter

$0.00


1

640-BBLG

Alienware Command Center 3.0

$0.00


1

320-BBDZ

Alienware 18 Silver Anodized Aluminum

$0.00


1

328-BBEK

Shipping Box Alienware 18

$0.00


1

658-BBOI

Resource DVD

$2.94


1

389-BCCZ

Windows 7 Label

$0.00


1

340-ACQQ

No Option Included

$0.00


1

340-ADGB

Placemat English

$0.00


1

332-1530

Dell.com Order

$0.00


1

332-1530

Dell.com Order

$0.00


1

658-BBUT

Additional Software

$0.00


1

340-ACQQ

No Option Included

$0.00


1

630-AAAU

Software: Microsoft Office 2013 Trial

$0.00


1

461-AAAD

McAfee Live Safe 12 Month Subscription

$39.23


1

525-0012

CyberLink Power Media Player

$78.46


1

340-ACQQ

No Option Included

$0.00


0

*

-DISCOUNT/COUPON APPL

$0.00


1

A5750525

Dell Advantage benefits have been applied. eGift card will be sent via email in 10-20 days. carries a 90 day expiration

$0.09


0

*

RTL

$0.00



Item Sub Total $2796.98
Item Ship Charge $0.00
Item Tax $188.85

Item Total $2985.83

..

hmscott
05-27-2014, 01:39 AM
CapnKerk, I would go with the G750JZ over the Alienware as you have them configured. The 880m will give way better performance than a single 860m, and it will be a rare game that the SLI 860 will better the 880m, and a lot of games won't take advantage of SLI.

If you want an Alienware, you really have to go whole hog. The base cost of the 18" really is way too expensive to consider, unless you plan on using it as a platform for SLI 880m, or ATI 290X Crossfire of the highest available GPU.

Also, upgrade the CPU to the highest available i7 Extreme. Why under configure with an i7-4810MQ?

A friend built a Clevo with the i7-4810MQ, and he says after extensive testing, that it benchmarks ok, but performs poorly compared to his 4700HQ in games. The HQ has a larger pinout FCPGA1364 vs the MQ FCPGA946 - I am thinking the HQ is using those extra pins for better throughput - I can't find a comparison off hand, but will update when I do.

I went ahead and configured what I think would be a worthwhile Alienware 18, and the cost is an astronomical $5,537 !!

And, that is after a $200 instant discount, gee thanks DELL, and a $200 gift card (so I will buy more stuff), and I may qualify for another $50 coupon - yeah it says may - as long as I spend more money :)

- and I didn't add software, only extra was a 3 year hardware/accidental loss coverage.

There is no way I would get an Alienware laptop and not get the 3-4 year hardware/accidental coverage. When you spend that much you probably want to extend your upgrade cycle out another year or two, so you want to get the extended coverage. And that 18" is going to be prone to drop damage from it's own weight, so the accidental damage coverage is a necessity.

i7 4940MX (ark.intel.com doesn't list pin out), 32GB memory, 512GB SSD + 1TB disk, 880m SLI, Blu-ray Reader! - no option for a burner?, and of course that huge slab of a 18" chassis. I did love the 18" screen on my Asus W90

So, anyway, if I wasn't thinking clearly, and had a loose hold on my purse-strings, that looks like an awesome laptop.

Of course, I am pushing the extremes with that config, but anything less is just too darned expensive without the end justification of an untouchable laptop configuration at purchase. If I am going to spend that much, and keep it as long as I think it would take for the laptop to work off it's keep, I would up configure it to the max so it was usable over the 3-4 years of service.

So why get a cheap Alienware? Because it gives you membership into the Alienware club - but it doesn't get you better laptop performance unless you up configure the heck out of it, and blow a ton a cash.

I guess if the 18" screen is an irresistible draw, then that might be justification, but then up configure the heck out of it and get performance over the top of any other comparable configured laptop, why waste the opportunity?