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HomieOC
05-26-2014, 09:19 AM
There seems to be a new update for optimus for us people with the G750... Just look for your Asus Updater by searching for "Asus Live Update" on your computer...

Does anyone know what exactly this update is? 37003

hmscott
05-26-2014, 09:23 AM
There seems to be a new update for optimus for us people with the G750... Just look for your Asus Updater by searching it on your computer...

Does anyone know what exactly this update is? 37003

HomieOC, that's pretty cool. I haven't seen a video card BIOS update from Asus for quite a while. Maybe they are working on fixing the Optimus Intel/Nvidia function... it is weird that they named it V1.0 -- I wonder what the previous release number of the VBIOS was.

I don't see any standalone updates available for vbios on the G750JZ download area, so I guess the only way to get this update is through Asus Live Update.

If you have a new Optimus G750JM/JS/JZ it's possible you have an update waiting...

HomieOC, you could ask Asus for the changelist for that update, I was hoping to find it posted on the JZ download area, but nothing is there about it. And, I checked the ROG site, and no news on G750 vbios updates - maybe it is still early and something will be posted.

HomieOC
05-26-2014, 09:27 AM
HomieOC, that's pretty cool. I haven't seen a video card BIOS update from Asus for quite a while. Maybe they are working on fixing the Optimus Intel/Nvidia function... it is weird that they named it V1.0 -- I wonder what the previous release number of the VBIOS was :)

Whats weird is... i had upgraded my Intel driver to the new V 15... it downgraded me back to V 10... but i'm not gonna touch it, im guessing when it updated the video bios it came with the intel driver package too??? Why did it downgrade my driver package if this was a new update...

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HomieOC
05-26-2014, 09:41 AM
I FOUND the driver...

http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=VGA&p=3&s=111

http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&s=589&m=VGA&os=41&ft=1&f_name=VGA_Intel_MSHybrid_Win81_64_VER101810349601 .zip#VGA_Intel_MSHybrid_Win81_64_VER101810349601.z ip

IT Came out 5/21

IF U OPEN READ ME THOUGH... It says release date march 11... wtf?

hmscott
05-26-2014, 09:42 AM
Whats weird is... i had upgraded my Intel driver to the new V 15... it downgraded me back to V 10... but i'm not gonna touch it, im guessing when it updated the video bios it came with the intel driver package too??? Why did it downgrade my driver package if this was a new update...

37004

That is weird. You can play around with trying to update to the newer driver again, and see if the Vbios update shows up again :)

If you have a problem with the newer driver, you can always reinstall the old driver.

More questions you can ask Asus via a Technical Inquiry. :)

hmscott
05-26-2014, 09:46 AM
I FOUND the driver...

http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=VGA&p=3&s=111

http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&s=589&m=VGA&os=41&ft=1&f_name=VGA_Intel_MSHybrid_Win81_64_VER101810349601 .zip#VGA_Intel_MSHybrid_Win81_64_VER101810349601.z ip

IT Came out 5/21

IF U OPEN READ ME THOUGH... It says release date march 11... wtf?

You found the Intel driver? But, that is older than the one Intel is offering, isn't it?

Version V10.18.10.3496.01
Description Intel Graphics Driver
File Size
145,88 (MBytes) 2014.05.21 update

March 11th sounds like the timeframe of release date for the JZ? Maybe why it is v1.0? I wonder what is up with this..

HomieOC
05-26-2014, 09:50 AM
You found the Intel driver? But, that is older than the one Intel is offering, isn't it?

Version V10.18.10.3496.01
Description Intel Graphics Driver
File Size
145,88 (MBytes) 2014.05.21 update

March 11th sounds like the timeframe of release date for the JZ? Maybe why it is v1.0? I wonder what is up with this..

but on asus website for download.. it shows there was a release 5/21 for the intel driver lol

hmscott
05-26-2014, 09:57 AM
but on asus website for download.. it shows there was a release 5/21 for the intel driver lol

Intel released V10.18.10.3496 on 3/27:
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=23279

That is why, when I can, I go to the OEM site for the latest drivers - the vendor, in this case Asus, is going to go through a vetting cycle to test the driver to make sure there aren't any problems on their hardware before posting it.

A 60 day test delay is normal - except for security fixes or major bugs you can wait a while for the vendor to do the testing for you.

You can download an update early and test it for yourself, which I do, but don't recommend for everyone. Most fixes aren't going to change your world, and unless you know what you are looking for, you can introduce problems with the new driver that would have been caught by Asus in their testing before you see the update.

Video drivers are different, especially if you are trying to get fixes / improvements for new video games - usually available first in BETA video drivers.

theclaw37
05-26-2014, 10:49 AM
Well i rushed to install the new update but was dumb, so please someone wiser: Take a screenshot of BOTH the NVidia VBIOS and the Intel VBIOS versions before you upgrade. And check whether one of them updates. Please.

ithanium2
05-26-2014, 04:46 PM
Interesting stuff...too bad I sent my laptop in service today.
They offered me DOA option and to send a new one but I refused. There is no guarantee that a new laptop would have perfectly applied thermal paste. (I refuse to accept the fact that a hi-end gaming laptop with this kind of cooling system can be this noisy on browsing/office tasks).

But too bad there are 0 details on changelog...really don't like this stuff from Asus. Same thing with the latest BIOS that upgrades the CPU microcode even tho the CPU's are soldered.

theclaw37
05-26-2014, 07:29 PM
Update: the "vbios" in asus live update utility contains the intel driver from asus too. Not sure if it actually contains a vbios, but it reverted my new drivers from intel site to the old ****ty ones from asus.

hmscott
05-27-2014, 12:21 AM
Update: the "vbios" in asus live update utility contains the intel driver from asus too. Not sure if it actually contains a vbios, but it reverted my new drivers from intel site to the old ****ty ones from asus.

theclaw37, which version number is installed? And what is the version number of the newest you were using, and probably reinstalled?

theclaw37
05-27-2014, 08:58 AM
Ok so i have:
vBIOS - 2179.0
Current driver - 10.18.10.3496 ( Intel reports this is the latest )
The one installed by the utility - 10.18.10.something ( The one on the asus website )

Quick way to tell if you have one or another: Right click on your desktop and if your intel icons are:
a) White rectangles with the intel logo inside them - you have the ones from Asus
b) Blue, smaller rectangles, kinda like the stickers on the laptops ( with intel inside ) - you have the intel drivers

dblkk
05-27-2014, 04:16 PM
Does anyone know what the new vbois update actually did?

I just downloaded it, and so far nothings different. Thought maybe it was something that would help with thermals, so I rendered a movie, and still hit 100c with throttling. So apparently nothing to do with thermals?

HomieOC
05-27-2014, 08:41 PM
Does anyone know what the new vbois update actually did?

I just downloaded it, and so far nothings different. Thought maybe it was something that would help with thermals, so I rendered a movie, and still hit 100c with throttling. So apparently nothing to do with thermals?

I Have no clue DB im gonna contact support right now and see

OK I talked to support.. there completely clueless and don't know crap, and i'm very upset right now.. what is this a marijuana processor hashwell? LOL it's haswell

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hmscott
05-28-2014, 12:27 AM
I Have no clue DB im gonna contact support right now and see
OK I talked to support.. there completely clueless and don't know crap, and i'm very upset right now.. what is this a marijuana processor hashwell? LOL it's haswell
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HomieOC, when you chat with Support, you don't get actual Engineers right off the bat :)

You need to file a Technical Inquiry, and then get through the first Tier of support, maybe a couple of people, and then if you persist, and have a well stated question / problem to get answered, you will get someone with technical knowledge to answer your questions.

That is how technical support works these days. The first Tier people are handling the incoming requests and answering and doing the simple things that can be scripted in a response script.

Be nice to them, and ask them how to get in touch with the right person to answer your question. Help them through this as it is a scripted world for them, you have to help them work off script to get what you need.

The only person that likely knows that answer is an Engineer who should have done a better job of writing release notes, but didn't. You can ask for better release notes, but it is going to take some effort to get through to that group, manager, and person.

Also, after reading the exchange you had with them, you confused them on the difference between BIOS and vBIOS.

You have to be careful to not confuse the first level support, as they are the ones directing your questions to the right people to answer.

You have to be extremely clear, especially since for many of them, English is not what they best understand and think in.

Your success depends on helping them understand so that your question makes it through to the next level of support.

Let us know how that works out for you :)

http://vip.asus.com

HomieOC
05-28-2014, 01:18 AM
HomieOC, when you chat with Support, you don't get actual Engineers right of the bat :)

You need to file a Technical Inquiry, and then get through the first Tier of support, maybe a couple of people, and then if you persist, and have a well stated question / problem to get answered, you will get someone with technical knowledge to answer your questions.

That is how technical support works these days. The first Tier people are handling the incoming requests and answering and doing the simple things that can be scripted in a response script.

Be nice to them, and ask them how to get in touch with the right person to answer your question. Help them through this as it is a scripted world for them, you have to help them work off script to get what you need.

The only person that likely knows that answer is an Engineer who should have done a better job of writing release notes, but didn't. You can ask for better release notes, but it is going to take some effort to get through to that group, manager, and person.

Also, after reading the exchange you had with them, you confused them on the difference between BIOS and vBIOS.

You have to be careful to not confuse the first level support, as they are the ones directing your questions to the right people to answer.

You have to be extremely clear, especially since for many of them, English is not what they best understand and think in.

Your success depends on helping them understand so that your question makes it through to the next level of support.

Let us know how that works out for you :)

http://vip.asus.com

Thanks for the vip page, and i didn't realize at the time they wouldn't know its frustrating. I contacted VIP support and i'll keep you guys posted on what they say.. I Also asked for detailed release notes for every update they release in the future :D