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hoboX10
05-27-2014, 02:43 AM
So I ordered a G750JZ from newegg that will get here on Friday and I know right away I'm going to want to clear out all the strange partitions Asus always puts on their drives. (It has them right?)

First things first though, what size USB do I need to make a backup of Windows? 8GB or 16GB?

Secondly, do I need to reinstall to clear out those partitions? If I do have to, I'm not sure how I keep RAID 0 for the two SSD's as I've never personally dabbled with RAID.

Thanks.

hmscott
05-27-2014, 02:52 AM
So I ordered a G750JZ from newegg that will get here on Friday and I know right away I'm going to want to clear out all the strange partitions Asus always puts on their drives. (It has them right?)

First things first though, what size USB do I need to make a backup of Windows? 8GB or 16GB?

Secondly, do I need to reinstall to clear out those partitions? If I do have to, I'm not sure how I keep RAID 0 for the two SSD's as I've never personally dabbled with RAID.

Thanks.

hoboX10, congrats on the new JZ :)

An 8GB works for others, but the first time I tried it I only had a 32GB drive and Asus Backtracker formatted 20GB of it, and put 15GB of stuff on the 20GB partition, so that is where I got the 16GB recommendation.

32GB is overkill, 8GB can't hold 15GB worth of stuff, and 16GB seems to be the optimal size - unless you want the additional 4GB free from the 20GB/32GB to put your own stuff on it, then go for the 32GB. But, the most important is to seek out a really fast USB 3.0 drive, and sometimes that speed only comes on the larger sizes.

When you delete the partitions with diskpart, they are gone, and the free space can be added to the C partition to expand it to the full available size of the RAID0, you don't need to recreate the RAID0.

You don't need to reinstall/recover, in fact if you do that the restore recreates the extra partitions again.

To recreate the RAID0, you do it from the BIOS. To set the cache settings for the RAID0, like write-back for performance, or write-through for data integrity, you can do that from Windows, using Intel Rapid Storage Technology app.

hoboX10
05-27-2014, 05:35 AM
Hmm, okay then I will try just merging the partitions and see if I'm happy with the result. If not, I'll worry about reinstalling later.

Now for the USB drives, do you have any recommended 16GB USB 3.0 drives for price to performance? I don't have any 3.0 drives so don't know what would be good.

hmscott
05-27-2014, 06:28 AM
Hmm, okay then I will try just merging the partitions and see if I'm happy with the result. If not, I'll worry about reinstalling later.

Now for the USB drives, do you have any recommended 16GB USB 3.0 drives for price to performance? I don't have any 3.0 drives so don't know what would be good.

hoboX10, you kinda have to be ready to google what's in stock, and check out the specs online. It is rare to find exactly what you are looking for in stock - which is what I am assuming you are going to do - go somewhere local to purchase what you can tomorrow.

Here are a couple of good reviews
http://usb.userbenchmark.com/Explore/Fastest/5
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3.0-thumb-drive-review,3477.html

Write speed is most important, as READ speed will also be high on those fastest Writers. The first link lets you sort by column, so start with the WRITE column sorted.

Since there are so many, it might also be a good idea to get familiar with the lowest performing, as they will also be the most likely ones on sale - you need to know what not to get too.

Remember, you won't be using this thumb drive again, and may even pass it on to the next owner of the laptop, so balance the expensive vs speed - I bought what is on sale, fastest :)

hoboX10
05-27-2014, 09:34 AM
hoboX10, you kinda have to be ready to google what's in stock, and check out the specs online. It is rare to find exactly what you are looking for in stock - which is what I am assuming you are going to do - go somewhere local to purchase what you can tomorrow.

Here are a couple of good reviews
http://usb.userbenchmark.com/Explore/Fastest/5
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3.0-thumb-drive-review,3477.html

Write speed is most important, as READ speed will also be high on those fastest Writers. The first link lets you sort by column, so start with the WRITE column sorted.

Since there are so many, it might also be a good idea to get familiar with the lowest performing, as they will also be the most likely ones on sale - you need to know what not to get too.

Remember, you won't be using this thumb drive again, and may even pass it on to the next owner of the laptop, so balance the expensive vs speed - I bought what is on sale, fastest :)I was just wondering if you had any quick suggestions before I did research. If you had good experiences with a certain model that saves me the trouble.

hmscott
05-27-2014, 10:28 AM
I was just wondering if you had any quick suggestions before I did research. If you had good experiences with a certain model that saves me the trouble.

Here is the one I used first, but I doubt you will find one :)
http://store.sony.com/16gb-microvault-mach-usb-flash-drive-zid27-USM16GQ/S/cat-27-catid-All-Computers-Flash-Memory

I got it on sale for $12 at a Sony Store, I haven't seen them elsewhere.

Before that I used a Sony 16GB MicroVault USB 2.0 - wow, was that slow to use with Backtracker!
http://store.sony.com/16gb-microvault-usb-flash-drive-zid27-USM16GM/W/cat-27-catid-All-Computers-Flash-Memory?_t=pfm%3Dcategory

I also used a Patriot 32GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220719

...and a Lexar 32GB
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/346813/Lexar-S73-USB-30-JumpDrive-Flash/

but I had those for a while, so I doubt you will find those either.

I could suggest a number of high end USB 3.0 mega flash drives I use, but you don't want one of them because it's awesomeness will be lost on the purpose - to sit there as a backup for months or years until needed.

That is why I gave those links to current reviews instead of what I used, you likely can't recreate my sources or needs that lead up to their use.

Read the reviews of current flash drives for sale, 16GB-32GB, decide how much you want to spend, and when you get to the store, dig in and find the gem you are looking for, cheap, fast, and at least 16GB USB 3.0 :)

HomieOC
05-27-2014, 10:51 AM
Here is the one I used first, but I doubt you will find one :)
http://store.sony.com/16gb-microvault-mach-usb-flash-drive-zid27-USM16GQ/S/cat-27-catid-All-Computers-Flash-Memory

I got it on sale for $12 at a Sony Store, I haven't seen them elsewhere.



Before that I used a Sony 16GB MicroVault USB 2.0 - wow, was that slow to use with Backtracker!
http://store.sony.com/16gb-microvault-usb-flash-drive-zid27-USM16GM/W/cat-27-catid-All-Computers-Flash-Memory?_t=pfm%3Dcategory

I also used a Patriot 32GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220719

...and a Lexar 32GB
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/346813/Lexar-S73-USB-30-JumpDrive-Flash/

but I had those for a while, so I doubt you will find those either.

I could suggest a number of high end USB 3.0 mega flash drives I use, but you don't want one of them because it's awesomeness will be lost on the purpose - to sit there as a backup for months or years until needed.

That is why I gave those links to current reviews instead of what I used, you likely can't recreate my sources or needs that lead up to their use.

Read the reviews of current flash drives for sale, 16GB-32GB, decide how much you want to spend, and when you get to the store, dig in and find the gem you are looking for, cheap, fast, and at least 16GB USB 3.0 :)



Good stuff scott :D I opened my G750JZ today... just the ram and hd cover.. i didn't know the msata ssd were made by san disk i thought it was a intel ssd

hmscott
05-27-2014, 11:16 AM
Good stuff scott :D I opened my G750JZ today... just the ram and hd cover.. i didn't know the msata ssd were made by san disk i thought it was a intel ssd

HomieOC, it's not an mSATA - it's an M.2 NGFF SATA drive :)

You may have replied to the wrong thread, try here:

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?39905-G750JH-DB71-Who-has-replaced-the-M.2-drives-with-larger-drives&p=336034&viewfull=1#post336034

Congrats on getting the back cover off :)

hoboX10
05-27-2014, 11:23 AM
Yes the M.2 SSD's should be lovely, can't wait to see the speed.