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Rocca
05-29-2014, 09:41 PM
Hello, yesterday i received my brand new Asus G750JS, today i installed win 8.1 and all drivers from Asus website, at the end i went to nvidia website and downloaded gpu drivers. After installation restarted my pc and right away i realised there is a problem. Pc was booting way too long (like 1min or even more). Overal system performance is horrible, when i try to open any program i need to wait 10-20sec for system to move on, same with right click in desktop(10-30sec waiting before menu popup).
Reinstalled win 8.1 to check if it was some kind of weird crap but same thing happen, everything was ok with all other drivers untill i installed nvidia drivers.
After that i decided to try different version of gpu drivers and installed older one from asustek website. Same thing so its not about driver version.
In safe mode everything is fine, system load fast and shutdown fast, than again when i try to load normal windows same thing happen.
To be honest i have no idea where is the problem.
Is there any chance that my GPU is faulty and thats the reason pc is acting wierd with drivers installed?
Or maybe there is some issue between Intel gpu and nvidia gpu?
I am searching for someone with this problem but so far no luck.

hmscott
05-29-2014, 10:05 PM
Hello, yesterday i received my brand new Asus G750JS, today i installed win 8.1 and all drivers from Asus website, at the end i went to nvidia website and downloaded gpu drivers. After installation restarted my pc and right away i realised there is a problem. Pc was booting way too long (like 1min or even more). Overal system performance is horrible, when i try to open any program i need to wait 10-20sec for system to move on, same with right click in desktop(10-30sec waiting before menu popup).
Reinstalled win 8.1 to check if it was some kind of weird crap but same thing happen, everything was ok with all other drivers untill i installed nvidia drivers.
After that i decided to try different version of gpu drivers and installed older one from asustek website. Same thing so its not about driver version.
In safe mode everything is fine, system load fast and shutdown fast, than again when i try to load normal windows same thing happen.
To be honest i have no idea where is the problem.
Is there any chance that my GPU is faulty and thats the reason pc is acting wierd with drivers installed?
Or maybe there is some issue between Intel gpu and nvidia gpu?
I am searching for someone with this problem but so far no luck.

After doing all that updating, it is tough to say what is the cause, it might be the Nvidia 337.88 driver, as it is new, but it could be something else.

Do you notice a lot of disk IO going on after boot? The little white light on the front of the laptop, does it keep going even after you get to the desktop?

It could be that Windows indexing is running, since you have a new laptop and did all those updates it needs to reindex. It could also be prefetch/superfetch ordering things at boot keeping the boot slow - with all the installs it has to remake the cache.

Someone else here complained about a similar problem, and I suggested booting, letting the disk run for a while till it is done, then repeat this a couple of times, and he said his boots are now fast again.

Give that a try first, and see if that cures the problem.

Rocca
05-29-2014, 10:22 PM
2nd time i didn't do any windows updates, installed just chipset, touchpad and cardreader drivers. Than i installed intel gpu drivers and nvidia drivers, problem repeated so from my point of view the problem is either in gpu or the drivers. I left pc running for couple hours but even after that when i try to open nvidia control panel system is lagging badly and i need to wait more than 30sec for panel to show.
Hdd is working properly.

hmscott
05-29-2014, 10:28 PM
2nd time i didn't do any windows updates, installed just chipset, touchpad and cardreader drivers. Than i installed intel gpu drivers and nvidia drivers, problem repeated so from my point of view the problem is either in gpu or the drivers. I left pc running for couple hours but even after that when i try to open nvidia control panel system is lagging badly and i need to wait more than 30sec for panel to show.
Hdd is working properly.

It isn't so much leaving it on for a long time as it is repeating the boot process a few times so the boot ordering can be done - it takes a few times to complete.

Every time you do an install, it has to go through that process again, through several reboots, before it is done again.

So it takes 30 second for the Nvidia control panel to come up, from right click on desktop, starting from control panel, or from Geforce Experience on systray app?

If you tried it after leaving the laptop sit for a couple of hours, unless you changed the HDD sleep settings in the Power Options, the drive went to sleep and needed to spin up again. That can add a long delay to the startup of an app / control panel. Set the HDD timeout to 0 in the Advanced section of the Power Option template you are using.

Also if you just loaded a new Nvidia driver, there could be delay as it loads the optimizations for all the app optimizations Geforce Experience downloaded for you.

Does the Nvidia Control panel take 30 seconds to come up again the 2nd, or 3rd time you go into it - after exiting it previously?

Rocca
05-29-2014, 10:40 PM
I did like 15-20restarts already nothing is changing, also i have hdd timeout on 0.
It takes 30 second for the Nvidia control panel to come up from desktop. Also i forgot to mention that last time i even tried to install only graphic driver without nvidia experience and psychx to make sure thats not creating the problem but nothing changed.

hmscott
05-29-2014, 10:51 PM
I did like 15-20restarts already nothing is changing, also i have hdd timeout on 0.
It takes 30 second for the Nvidia control panel to come up from desktop. Also i forgot to mention that last time i even tried to install only graphic driver without nvidia experience and psychx to make sure thats not creating the problem but nothing changed.

Rocca, so you reinstalled Windows 8.1, did you do a complete restore back to the original OEM Asus recovery, and then do a Windows 8.1 install again, along with drivers, etc and ended up with the original Asus Nvidia driver that came with the laptop? And it is now still slow?

Rocca
05-29-2014, 11:05 PM
Yes my G750JS was without system so i installed fresh win 8.1. To make sure other drivers arent cause of this problem i didn't install any driver that is not vital for system to work. Before i installed nvidia drivers (yes the one that are on asustek website) i played around with system for an hour or two, browsed some websites, launched movie and everything was fine. Right after i installed nvidia drivers problem occured again.

So to make things clear,
3 formats in total, 2 different versions of nvidia gpu drivers, newest one from nvidia website and older one from asustek website (335.xx)
each time different setup:
1st time all updates, all drivers = system is slow
2nd time no drivers exept chipset and intel gpu and nvidia gpu drivers = system is slow
3rd time like 2nd but installed nvidia drivers without nvidia experience and psychx = same thing

Each time before i install nvidia drivers system is working perfect and after drivers are installed system is slowing down right away.

hmscott
05-29-2014, 11:13 PM
Yes my G750JS was without system so i installed fresh win 8.1. To make sure other drivers arent cause of this problem i didn't install any driver that is not vital for system to work. Before i installed nvidia drivers (yes the one that are on asustek website) i played around with system for an hour or two, browsed some websites, launched movie and everything was fine. Right after i installed nvidia drivers problem occured again.

So to make things clear,
3 formats in total, 2 different versions of nvidia gpu drivers, newest one from nvidia website and older one from asustek website (335.xx)
each time different setup:
1st time all updates, all drivers = system is slow
2nd time no drivers exept chipset and intel gpu and nvidia gpu drivers = system is slow
3rd time like 2nd but installed nvidia drivers without nvidia experience and psychx = same thing

Each time before i install nvidia drivers system is working perfect and after drivers are installed system is slowing down right away.

Rocca, is this one of the systems that doesn't come with Windows, and instead comes with DOS only?

Someone else was on here a while back with that, and had similar problems. He took his back and got one that included Windows.

There is something going on with those DOS systems that is causing this problem, where a Microsoft Windows 8.1 install + Asus Downloads + Nvidia drivers doesn't work right.

Can you do that? Swap for one that comes with Windows pre-installed? And, then backup that install with Asus Backtracker to a flash recovery drive.

Better yet, do you know someone with an Asus Windows install on a JS that you could access to create a Flash recovery drive using Asus Backtracker? Maybe even the seller / shop has a demo you can use to restore to your machine - that might be the best shot at getting a Windows config that works.

If you bought a WIndows 8.1 license, it should be legal, you are just looking for the media with the config you need to work on that laptop.

Rocca
05-29-2014, 11:27 PM
Yes it comes with DOS preistalled. I have win 8.1 license from school thats why i didn't buy laptop with windows included since it was cheaper. I ordered my laptop via internet from asus reseller. I don't know anyone who have this laptop and since this laptop just showed in my country availability may be a problem.
Maybe i just contact asus technical support or technical support from the shop where i get it and ask what do they think.

Btw. sorry for my bad english, hopefully you can understand what i mean and also i would like to thank you so much for fast responce and wasting your time to respond each time :)

hmscott
05-29-2014, 11:52 PM
Yes it comes with DOS preistalled. I have win 8.1 license from school thats why i didn't buy laptop with windows included since it was cheaper. I ordered my laptop via internet from asus reseller. I don't know anyone who have this laptop and since this laptop just showed in my country availability may be a problem.
Maybe i just contact asus technical support or technical support from the shop where i get it and ask what do they think.

Btw. sorry for my bad english, hopefully you can understand what i mean and also i would like to thank you so much for fast responce and wasting your time to respond each time :)

Rocca, what is the name of the DOS, it has a trade name, that the other guy put in his posts, you could search for that in the forums, look him up, and send him a PM to see how he resolved this problem. You might also search on the model name, your country name, etc, anything that could help you find his posts / our thread.

Happy to help, come back and visit more :)

theclaw37
05-30-2014, 07:49 AM
Hey Rocca, i had the EXACT same problems with my first JS:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?47303-G750JS-GeForce-card-problem

Can you run ANY 3d application (game, software etc) with the NVidia? Right click a game or something - > run with graphics processor - > Nvidia, and see what happens. If you can't, you have a hardware problem, return it immediately.

My symptoms:
- Windows slow to boot (because trying to access nvidia gpu)
- Right click on desktop took 30+ seconds (because nv control panel is there)
- NV control panel takes forever to load.
- NO games/apps can be run with nv gpu, only intel.
- When installing the NV drivers, when the installer hits the "Installing driver" section, the computer freezes, and then unfreezes when it finished with that section.
- Curiously, the card shows it's working ok in device manager.
- Problem persists after Windows clean install.

@HMscott: I didn't get another with windows preinstalled. I just got another one, that wasn't faulty. I'm in EXACTLY the same situation as Rocca. I had Windows license from school :)

hmscott
05-30-2014, 08:44 AM
...@HMscott: I didn't get another with windows preinstalled. I just got another one, that wasn't faulty. I'm in EXACTLY the same situation as Rocca. I had Windows license from school :)

theclaw37, thanks for clearing that up :)

Your new JS works fine with a clean install of Windows

Thanks for coming back and helping Rocca :)

ryanyomomma
05-30-2014, 08:51 AM
Hello. I'm going to be as detailed as I possibly can. TL;DR Version: Is there a way to just run with the Nvidia GPU only (and after a clean Windows Install on a new drive)?

Anyway, I'm having a similar issue with the G750JM. It actually ran fine until today, after I replaced that slow, 5400RPM drive with a Samsung 840 EVO SSD and a Seagate SSHD in the caddy bay.

After installing all the drivers and restoring some Steam games (Wolfenstein and Assetto Corsa), I ran Wolfenstein to check the performance gain.. I thought it was fine so I moved on to Assetto Corsa and found poor performance when I know it should be like that. Keep in mind that before tonight, I was able to run Assetto Corsa on the original drive with mostly high settings at 1080p and it was Wolfenstein that had the lag issues until I lowered the settings.

Anyway, I started to play with the settings on Assetto Corsa, both the in-game options and Nvidia Control Panel. None of my efforts paid off. I then started noticing that every time I select and applied "High-performance NVIDIA processor" on both Global and Program Settings on the Nvidia Control Panel, close the window and then re-open the Control Panel, those settings are reverted to the Global Setting (Auto-Select: Integrated). I don't think reinstalling Windows numerous times. It seems to be GPU-switching issue. I have to assume that the Intel chipset drivers may be at fault because it's just not switching over between GPUs.

I been at this for a couple hours now. I even disabled the Intel Graphics driver in the Device Manager and that actually disabled the Nvidia Control Panel. In fact, disabling the HD 4600 caused Windows to think that no GPU is installed, which tells me that while the drivers are installed for the 860M (that's the Nvidia GPU I have), it's completely non-existent and not in use.

I hope this gives a little more insight as to what may be going on with your laptop? I really rather not stick that slow hard drive back in, but it's starting to look that way.

EDIT: I guess I should further add that besides the GPU issues, I have not experience any other issues. Windows boots in about 10 seconds. I don't have freezing. The only thing I noticed was a little hangup when I hit Apply in the Nvidia Control Panel whenever I tried to force switch the GPU.. That's about it for now.

theclaw37
05-30-2014, 09:00 AM
ryan you most probably have a control panel issue. There's nothing wrong with your comp. and it most definitely has nothing to do with the hdd you installed. Are you able to run with NVidia by right clicking the program and run with ... bla bla? If so, then its just a simple problem of your settings not sticking. Maybe reinstall the driver. (You actually only would need to reinstall the control panel, but there's no separate installer for that)

ryanyomomma
05-30-2014, 09:18 AM
ryan you most probably have a control panel issue. There's nothing wrong with your comp. and it most definitely has nothing to do with the hdd you installed. Are you able to run with NVidia by right clicking the program and run with ... bla bla? If so, then its just a simple problem of your settings not sticking. Maybe reinstall the driver. (You actually only would need to reinstall the control panel, but there's no separate installer for that)

I already did that... didn't work.