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HiVizMan
06-11-2014, 09:31 AM
Roll up roll up it is Brazilian Carnival Time at ROG



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Beautiful Rio and on the 12th June the Beautiful Game will kick off. Yes it is time for World Cup 2014 Brazil.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/01/article-2286426-0A3D63A5000005DC-950_306x423.jpg


So many reasons to love Brazil and football.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/01/article-0-1E5E71FD00000578-487_634x381.jpg


But we are Benchers not overpaid footballers. So lets get benching.


This challenge will run during the entire World Cup 2014 and end at the final whistle.





The Benchmarks

3Dmark05

3DMark FireStrike

Super Pi 1 & 32mil

ROG Realbench V2


Each bencher must choose a participating team as their playing partner, select a number between 1 and 31 and post up that number when you indicate you are going to be doing the Samba with us here on ROG. First come first serve this is a blind selection and no swapping out allowed. Brazil is taken as that is the Challenge Partner. The reason why will become apparent as you keep reading.

Rules and Limitations


No sub ambient benching
HWBOT submission rules apply
Official wallpaper must be used
Photo of your benching rig with first submission
Same hardware and frequency for all benchmark
Handicapping will apply depending on hardware used*
Weekly bonus points for submissions
Quarter final shoot out 5 bonus points
Semi Final shoot out 10 bonus points
Final shoot out 15 bonus
World Cup winner 20 bonus points**






Wall paper is supplied by our resident creative boffin and my friend Chris. Link (https://www.dropbox.com/s/7kb1nw4s3stl52v/Brazilian_Carnival_Challenge4%20%281%29.jpg) added

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*Handicapping will be based on the HWBOT hardware index for each benchmark.
**Best first time participant will receive additional bonus points depending on Brazil's final position.

HiVizMan
06-11-2014, 09:31 AM
Reserved for league table

meankeys
06-11-2014, 02:08 PM
#3 is me

Myk SilentShadow
06-11-2014, 02:27 PM
i'll pick #14

Henkenator68NL
06-11-2014, 02:56 PM
Haha and #5 is mine

by the way no brasialian wax manditory i hope

Myk SilentShadow
06-11-2014, 03:07 PM
Haha and #5 is mine

by the way no brasialian wax manditory i hope

I'm hoping not as well lmfao

HiVizMan
06-11-2014, 05:17 PM
Haha and #5 is mine

by the way no brasialian wax manditory i hope

Hell yes and a photo to prove it.


Oh by the way all benching has to be done in a mankini....


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Guess which one is me...

darkage
06-11-2014, 05:46 PM
i don't have the hat is that a restriction ?

Antronman
06-12-2014, 04:03 AM
Hell yes and a photo to prove it.


Oh by the way all benching has to be done in a mankini....





Guess which one is me...

The one with the camera?

HiVizMan
06-12-2014, 07:26 AM
The one with the camera?

Give the man the prize. :D :D

Dartmaul
06-12-2014, 08:24 AM
#18

Nice to see you're back Dagmar.

HiVizMan
06-12-2014, 08:31 AM
Cheers my dear friend it is good to be back. :)

Henkenator68NL
06-12-2014, 08:42 AM
Hell yes and a photo to prove it.


Oh by the way all benching has to be done in a mankini....

LMFAO !! It would be a real weird situation... me trying to explain to my wife why ...

Menthol
06-12-2014, 12:05 PM
#9 #9 #9
Looking to see the new team ROG people join this Competition, this is where to learn your hardware limits and software tweaking abilities, for me it is much more fun than just submitting scores on HWBOT but at the end of the competition you end up with your best scores for submitting.
Now where are all the mankini jokes. You guys are facing some STIFF competition

Henkenator68NL
06-12-2014, 12:41 PM
By the way, what is:

No sub ambient benching

is that < 0 C ?? or

Antronman
06-12-2014, 01:01 PM
Sub ambient >.<

I guess it means no Ln2 or phase changing?

But then what is the point of the competition?

HiVizMan
06-12-2014, 01:15 PM
To have fun mate, as simple as that.

HiVizMan
06-12-2014, 01:18 PM
By the way, what is:

No sub ambient benching

is that < 0 C ?? or


If your screen shot shows your temps to be lower than what the temperature in your room is then you are using non-ambient cooling. If you only have cooling that is sub-ambient (lower than the temperature of your environment) then we can work out a frequency cap. The contest as you know is here so that as many people as possible can participate, only a few of us have access to SS or Phase units and or LN2. :)

Antronman
06-12-2014, 01:18 PM
Well, yeah.

But if it has to be water or air, and no Ln2 or PC, then won't everybody end up with pretty much the same OCs? (Somebody might have a little more voltage than somebody else, but the same clock limitations of water will still be present, unless people have bad chips.)

I'm just saying it doesn't really test your tweaking/oc capability. It would be fun, yeah.

So, to clarify for everybody else, is Ln2/PC allowed or not?

HiVizMan
06-12-2014, 02:14 PM
No LN2 what so ever.

If you have phase or a single stage cooling then let me know and we will work stuff out. Phase is not such a big deal with the newer CPU's as the heat that is produced at higher frequency than say a good water system can handle is marginal. Maybe 200MHz difference between a good water and a phase unit.

And ideally yes I would prefer every one to have exactly the same frequency, that way it is all about your tweaking skill and not raw power. These guys here start off in the first week with scores that are OKish, or even personal bests for some of the submission. But by the time we are done those scores have all been left far behind. So much more to benching that just overclocking. As Menthol said you end up with heaps more skill and heaps more points because you improve so much in these contest periods.

Rockford
06-12-2014, 02:40 PM
The firestrike?

Is it still needed to run the full show, for only the f-strike? on a free license

HiVizMan
06-12-2014, 02:48 PM
Hmm I honestly do not know as I have a licence.

All I want is the single benchmark Firestrike. Not the others if this can not be done then I will change the benchmark.

Raja@ASUS
06-12-2014, 03:22 PM
These are the things we can expect in this challenge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os9BbZ_MGdw

Watch 4:58 ~ 5:20...

Henkenator68NL
06-12-2014, 03:35 PM
Hmm I honestly do not know as I have a licence.

All I want is the single benchmark Firestrike. Not the others if this can not be done then I will change the benchmark.

Paw is correct, with the free version you can only run the entire bench. you need a licence to run only 1 test, or tweak or whatever.

No problem for me got the license but maybe not everybody

danskieness
06-12-2014, 03:39 PM
well @raja there's how to loot brazil on 2:28, that certainly made my day :))

Rockford
06-12-2014, 03:41 PM
These are the things we can expect in this challenge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os9BbZ_MGdw

Watch 4:58 ~ 5:20...

I think we have a chance to perform slightly better than a brazze silicone bimbo, your welcome..

will you join this challenge Raja?

Rockford
06-12-2014, 03:56 PM
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Raja@ASUS
06-12-2014, 04:15 PM
No, not me, this is all for you guys to work out who is - clockwise, counter-clockwise, on top of and beneath :D

I remember watching that Simpsons episode years ago and it really cracked me up.

HiVizMan
06-12-2014, 04:42 PM
LOL Raja you crack me up with the stuff you find on youtube.


Back to the challenge and Firestrike let me think about this and see what I can use in its place.

Arne Saknussemm
06-12-2014, 06:04 PM
Excellent...a new challenge! and with World Cup flavour! Viz is back! Universe back on an even keel!

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#25 for me

Rockford
06-12-2014, 08:12 PM
Ok I will go for the number #21 (nummer tjugoett)

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jab383
06-12-2014, 08:46 PM
*Reaches up in the air*
*Pulls down number *
it's . . .

14

Jeff

Arne Saknussemm
06-12-2014, 08:52 PM
Reach again Jeff...Myk bagged 14 :D

Paw...that you're way of showing you have no trouble picking up chicks?

darkage
06-12-2014, 09:22 PM
@13

Rockford
06-12-2014, 09:49 PM
Dark. LOL

Rockford
06-12-2014, 09:50 PM
Reach again Jeff...Myk bagged 14 :D

Paw...that you're way of showing you have no trouble picking up chicks?

Well, not exactly..

darkage
06-12-2014, 09:56 PM
that's my number T i was born 13-05-1697

Rockford
06-12-2014, 10:00 PM
1697 ?? Then you must be older than Chilly-Gramps (Menthol)

Myk SilentShadow
06-12-2014, 10:55 PM
that's my number T i was born 13-05-1697

Duuuuuude!! you way old fart! :p

meankeys
06-13-2014, 12:34 AM
Raja nice video lol

Viz you are so right my SS will pull down to positive numbers by the end of the realbench coding @ 48+ I was going to use icy water for the bench but If I can use the SS with a cap that might work as it is more convenient and I wont have to buy ice :)

Menthol
06-13-2014, 12:54 AM
Yes, I can see we are starting to have some fun already, hot chicks, baby chicks, I have no problem you using SS Mean, I would advise keeping it away from your mankini area or you may be benching with a Popsicle

Rockford
06-13-2014, 01:08 AM
yes, no need to re-build a system for the challenge, i think that would be too much to ask for..

Like suggested, a cap? or 2

Henkenator68NL
06-13-2014, 01:30 AM
So if Phase changer is allowed, then the definition off what allowed needs sharpening, when is what applicable? Using phase chamger or ln2 or drice bring totally different ranges into the game. If use a high power AC in the room (dropimg the temp in the room by 10C, is that getting a handicap? How about visiting my brother doing research in polar area... You get my drift? So if we split between air/water (not colder than 0C) and cooling methods < 0C, would that not be an honest divider?

twisted1
06-13-2014, 01:45 AM
I'll go for #22 if it's not taken.

Are multiple gpus allowed? Like 7970, 6950, 5870, 5750. Only meaning with that is the opencl score in RB.

Should be fine as long as i keep the cards installed all of the time.

I think I'll be using my 2700k, the 3930k is faster in RB but thats about it.

meankeys
06-13-2014, 01:48 AM
It does not matter to me what we decide. I do it for fun. My icy water will get to 5c-7c but once I step up the voltage ill be benching in the 10c to 12c range no load.

My mankini is to tight. it's cutting the blood circulation to my left nad. lol

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Menthol
06-13-2014, 02:11 AM
Can you set temp control on SS, let's don't complicate it, a couple degrees here or there, if your ambient is sub zero and you can bench in a mankini you may deserve the win

meankeys
06-13-2014, 02:43 AM
No non adjustable at least mine does not. max out @ -52 sitting on the desktop in my mankini. @ 4800 MHz 1.552V -25 At higher voltages temps do skyrocket as Viz mentioned.

darkage
06-13-2014, 07:24 AM
it don't bother me if people use s/s ln2 or whatever, i live in a small island and i have water all around me, my friend that lives in the big silent and shadow island only has air around him, so its not fair for him that i use water and he only use air :-)
this is just for fun, my only concern is the firestrike thing

Henkenator68NL
06-13-2014, 08:20 AM
Dark, What is your concern about firestrike?

darkage
06-13-2014, 09:44 AM
having to run all the bench its to long

HiVizMan
06-13-2014, 09:48 AM
So if Phase changer is allowed, then the definition off what allowed needs sharpening, when is what applicable? Using phase chamger or ln2 or drice bring totally different ranges into the game. If use a high power AC in the room (dropimg the temp in the room by 10C, is that getting a handicap? How about visiting my brother doing research in polar area... You get my drift? So if we split between air/water (not colder than 0C) and cooling methods < 0C, would that not be an honest divider?


Single Stage is fine but no LN2. As long as you tell us all that you are using a Single stage or phase unit I am happy with it. NO CASCADES that can pull down to -100'C


having to run all the bench its to long


Will be changing the tests that we need to do. Stay tuned just busy doing the maths.

darkage
06-13-2014, 10:10 AM
i think hiviz is right since people are correct and let the others know whats going on no problem with what cooling is being used, anyway if i was in a sub 0 country i would be happier then a lot of people around here (including myself :-) )
and there several nice chillers around, at least 3 i think so will be nice to see what they can do
and thanks for the update about the fire viz

Arne Saknussemm
06-13-2014, 10:17 AM
Not saying you have to!...just puting it up there...if you wanted it it is on steam on special offer http://store.steampowered.com/app/223850/ until 19th June

I bought the code on steam and then used it on a standalone install...i.e you don't have to use the steam version or launch through steam...

darkage
06-13-2014, 11:11 AM
i have made my tests and theres no need for a key to run tests as standalone, so no problem to keep this one hiviz :-)
just get stuck with the demo first, have to figure out how to do ?!

Rockford
06-13-2014, 11:30 AM
Damn, same grammar error as i used to make..

contagious??

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darkage
06-13-2014, 11:38 AM
yeah we are all getting pawed :-)

Raja@ASUS
06-13-2014, 11:46 AM
Loser has to do the tassle thing like the chick in the Brazilian simpsons vid - and put it on Youtube.

Arne Saknussemm
06-13-2014, 11:50 AM
The mankini is well out of fashion... far too restrictive for optimal benching...

Do not click link immediately before or after a meal:

http://www.bitterwallet.com/men-check-out-this-sickening-half-thong/74299

Rockford
06-13-2014, 11:56 AM
anyone want to see me posing in my 5cm Speedo Endurance?

Live and direct..

darkage
06-13-2014, 12:14 PM
hehehe
you just found a way to put everyone runing away from rog lol

darkage
06-13-2014, 12:15 PM
start sending the videos and i will be a easy winner lol

Rockford
06-13-2014, 12:17 PM
its risk for someone to choke on the breakfast, not for the weak..

;)

Arne Saknussemm
06-13-2014, 12:21 PM
anyone want to see me posing in my 5cm Speedo Endurance?

Live and direct..

that's pretty close to fully dressed right paw? You wore army boots and woolly hat only, I thought?

Antronman
06-13-2014, 12:29 PM
anyone want to see me posing in my 5cm Speedo Endurance?

Live and direct..

It's all about the LZR man.

HiVizMan
06-13-2014, 01:31 PM
OK so we can run Firestrike as stand alone.

Good to know here is the wallpaper.

I will hand out the teams later today juts a bit tired today, first week back and all. Could I ask someone to make a list of all the contestants and the numbers they have chosen please. User name in one column and number in the next on a spread sheet if I can be really pushy and ask. :D

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Arne Saknussemm
06-13-2014, 02:19 PM
Here is the info...just tried to make Google Doc and it f***ed up ?!?

meankeys 3
Myk SilentShadow 14
Henkenator68NL 5
Dartmaul 18
Menthol 9
Arne saknussemm 25
jab383 8
WhitePaw 21
darkage 13
twisted1 22

EDIT: OK good now:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvHbSZ0_ncywdGxhTWdoZmZhMkxVTVpFUHhzcG5Tc lE&usp=sharing

meankeys
06-13-2014, 04:12 PM
Sweet picture Chris thank you

Arne thanks for the list.

We need to get Z in the mix. Whom else is missing?

Antronman
06-13-2014, 04:21 PM
.C. is missing.

Rockford
06-13-2014, 04:27 PM
;)

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Rockford
06-13-2014, 04:35 PM
i would like to see some new faces in this challenge...

Join, we dont bite..

darkage
06-13-2014, 05:29 PM
you have such a nice bios and pet PAW
if i behave well will i also be NUKED ? lol

Dartmaul
06-13-2014, 05:33 PM
BTW Guys have you ever mentioned that 2014 world football cup logo looks pretty similar to a facepalm?)

Rockford
06-13-2014, 05:47 PM
you have such a nice bios and pet PAW
if i behave well will i also be NUKED ? lol

I have a feeling you would enjoy a inquisition mask instead....;)

(no photo, family forum)

darkage
06-13-2014, 05:52 PM
oh no no i am very shy
what happened to arne ?
can i join the alps arne ?

Arne Saknussemm
06-13-2014, 06:01 PM
BTW Guys have you ever mentioned that 2014 world football cup logo looks pretty similar to a facepalm?)

LOL yes that has not gone unnoticed..

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jab383
06-13-2014, 06:15 PM
OOps. How about 8?

Jeff

twisted1
06-13-2014, 06:19 PM
i would like to see some new faces in this challenge...

Join, we dont bite..

Yes, everyone join in! These competitions is the best way to learn how to get better scores. And we all share our tweaks and findings.

Arne Saknussemm
06-13-2014, 06:38 PM
OOps. How about 8?

Jeff

Yeah, that's free :D



i would like to see some new faces in this challenge...

Join, we dont bite..


Yes, everyone join in!

So! Send out some invites! I have....;)

HiVizMan
06-13-2014, 07:05 PM
Nice one guys and thanks Arne for the spreadsheet. OK what is going to happen is am waiting for the first week of the challenge to pass. Once that is done I will know pretty much how many are competing. Once the group stages of the WC2014 are done I hope to have 16 bencher's to pair with 16 teams.

Then we will take it from there and have our own knock out competition running as a side event to the challenge. Do you get it yet?

Lets say you get Germany and they are playing Mexico in the knock-out round well you get to do a bench off against the person who has the Mexico team as their totem. We will have our very own WC right here on ROG. What do you all think of that little twist my friends?

MatsGlobetrotter
06-13-2014, 07:10 PM
Count me in. Will start on 18th when im back home. Am still enjoying the indian ocean waves:-)

HiVizMan
06-13-2014, 07:15 PM
Give us a number between 1 and 31 check out arne's post to see which numbers have been taken and consider yourself in the game.

MatsGlobetrotter
06-13-2014, 07:30 PM
#7 if available or #17 if not

meankeys
06-13-2014, 07:33 PM
Viz That sounds fun :)

HiVizMan
06-13-2014, 07:57 PM
#7 if available or #17 if not

7 it is.

Yeah mean it is something that I have been thinking of quite a bit the last few years, head to head bench off's no one is doing this yet but I can see knock-out contests as being a pretty exciting event in the near future.

chrsplmr
06-13-2014, 09:19 PM
.C. is missing.
hahahha .. Never !!! Look in the Light myFriend. I am always there.


... head to head bench off's no one is doing this yet but I can see knock-out contests as being a pretty exciting event in the near future.
This I like the taste of. Now your cook'n with LN2 .. talk about 'Potential'. Yum. .c.

HiVizMan
06-13-2014, 09:24 PM
You should bench with us Chris my friend, if you have the time that is, seriously this one is going to be fun.

Arne Saknussemm
06-13-2014, 09:37 PM
HUP Holland! nice back end to that match
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chrsplmr
06-13-2014, 09:42 PM
You should bench with us Chris my friend, if you have the time that is, seriously this one is going to be fun.
My time is @ the tender mercies of the powers that be @ the moment
so I am afraid I must lurk and learn on this one brother.
I have been seriously bitten by the benching bug with its personal quests to eek out just one more point and the joy that comes from doing so. Talking to yourself and your board in the wee hours of the morning until you swear 'she' is answering you as she grants you your quest. hahhaha
My tired 6850's gotta go, not that that stops me .. I'd rather learn something new than breath most days.
My time is simply not my own. sigh.
But thank you, hopefully the next go around or the one after that. .c.

Menthol
06-14-2014, 04:55 AM
Let me post some scores, some lazy benching but that's how I feel tonight, I'll get some sleep and lite the fire to this rig and get some better scores up
The rig is pretty much the same as it has been all cooled by water
M/B = RIVE
CPU = 4960X @ 4772 mhz
Mem = 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum's 2666 CL10 @1375
GPU = 780ti @ 1268/1875

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3Dmark05 = 45371
3Dmark Firestrike = 12367
Super Pi 1 = 07.706s
Super Pi 32 = 06m 55.959s
RealBench = 108349

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Best Wallpaper to date, thanks so much Chris, and thanks again VizMan for putting on the Challenge, I'll step up the benching after I get some rest mate

Arne Saknussemm
06-14-2014, 08:00 AM
Nice one Menthol...kicked off...

Darn it! That's the exact memory I was searching for LOL...

Here I am moving and my RIG is in bits....will have to hastily build it up this week to get in on this comp...

HiVizMan
06-14-2014, 09:05 AM
Right the challenge has been kicked off and we are go.

meankeys
06-14-2014, 12:01 PM
Ok 1 second - I did not see the final decision on the hardware. Can I use my SS and are multi gpu's allowed?

HiVizMan
06-14-2014, 01:00 PM
You can use your SS yes. I do not recall you asking about dual card. But give it a go I can always handicap based on the data base on HWBOT.

Arne Saknussemm
06-14-2014, 01:11 PM
Yeah, great stuff as always chrs! I flick through the wallpapers sometimes...kindle a spark of excitement remembering the comps...like Proust's madeleine...

chrsplmr
06-14-2014, 01:14 PM
Best Wallpaper to date, thanks so much Chris ...
Thank You goodSir. My pleasure as always.
My favorite so far is "The Super Pi Challenge" Wallpaper or maybe it is the next one ? ... hahhaa .. idk.
Good to see you first on the board. This is going to heat up sweet making Carnival look like a 'walk in the park'. Cudos. .c.

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chrsplmr
06-14-2014, 01:29 PM
Yeah, great stuff as always chrs! I flick through the wallpapers sometimes...kindle a spark of excitement remembering the comps...like Proust's madeleine...
Thanks brotherArne.
Does an old ROG's heart warm.
I can't always play in front of the bigROGs ...
Although I do recall my humble rig having a slight advantage a time or two ...
((btw. thnx HVM for slip'n that in on 'us' and teaching us all that it isn't always the $$$Rig in the ROG,
but the Tweak in the ROG'r that Wins the day. You are a wise old ROG.))
... I am Always behind All you guyz in every post and Challenge however. hahaaha
[and thanks for keeping me 'in school'.] .c.

Menthol
06-14-2014, 04:44 PM
CPU @ 4902MHZ
MEM @ 1413MHZ
GPU @ 1328MHZ
VRAM @1900MHZ

3DO5 = 47806
3DMARK = 12744
SPI 1mil = 7.4888s
SPI 32mil = 6m 45.320s
RealBench = 111279

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Am I Competing by myself come on guys post up

Arne Saknussemm
06-14-2014, 05:27 PM
I'm moving house...and have no CPU at the moment....I'm actually wondering if I signed up in haste:eek:...keep going menthol...gives something to shoot for if I get stuff together and the others will be along soon enough no doubt

Nice clocks and scores as usual...2800 cas 10...I really got to find me a kit of that stuff...

Where is the full card waterblock for the Matrix R9 290X EK?!!

HiVizMan
06-14-2014, 05:31 PM
Lovely stuff mate. Yes indeed come on chaps time to post up and show what you can do.

Rockford
06-14-2014, 07:20 PM
a Quickie before barbecue Spareribs this evening..

Hardware>

4770K
Dominator GT 2133C9 (2X4gb)
Asus Radeon 7970
Maximus 7 Gene
PowerZone 1000w
Custom loop watercooling

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CPU @ 4942MHZ
MEM @ 1210MHZ
GPU @ 1300MHZ
VRAM @1752MHZ

3DO5 = 52556
3DMARK = 9815
SPI 1mil = 07.285
SPI 32mil = 6m 22.981
RealBench = 96405

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I hope everything is in order

Menthol
06-14-2014, 07:20 PM
Arne I don't know anything about tweaking timings on these Corsair Samsung chips, just use the bios presets, they will do 2800 and over on CL9 at the 1.92 volts
I have a pretty good 4960x, will3D bench at 5.0 at just over 1.4 volts but it wants a lot more voltage to get past Realbench encoding test so that's the bench that is going to limit me in this competition

Menthol
06-14-2014, 07:28 PM
Nice Paw, good to see you in this, rockin the 3D05

Rockford
06-14-2014, 07:37 PM
i dont have a clue how to tweak Mark 05

Menthol
06-14-2014, 11:14 PM
Me either bro

Rockford
06-15-2014, 12:11 AM
i bought 2 large boxes of ice cream, the ice kind, not the cream kind..

1 box with Pear tase 10.12.12.28
1 box with Strawberry tase 9.11.10.27

They are "semi ice" 80% ice and 20% fruit..

Love em, i ate up all 24 pcs while benchmarking = chilled Paw

Rockford
06-15-2014, 12:14 AM
yes, we dont run all the benchmarks, its individual which ones we run, some of us run all of them, some not

Damn, i am out of ICE Cream........

Or do you say ice pops?

Menthol
06-15-2014, 01:49 AM
Popsicle's

meankeys
06-15-2014, 04:10 AM
Sorry for the delay guy's. I wanted to bench some baseline runs but I am having a problem running 3dmark 05 ? I am shutting down when I get to the cpu test. I want to mention I have been playing with win 8.

Arne Saknussemm
06-15-2014, 06:05 AM
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darkage
06-15-2014, 08:24 AM
paw i never bought ice cream with ip addresses lol
1 box with Pear tase 10.12.12.28
1 box with Strawberry tase 9.11.10.27

Rockford
06-15-2014, 09:10 AM
Arne> LOL

darkage> Its DDR3 timings, not ip numbers = onset brain damage

HiVizMan
06-15-2014, 09:23 AM
I have never run 3Dmark05 with Window8 before so will ask others who may have to assist here.

darkage
06-15-2014, 10:12 AM
darkage> Its DDR3 timings, not ip numbers = onset brain damage >-)
isn't 05 that is all about cpu speed ?
or is it 03 ?
i know that there is a cheat used in 03 but 05 don't know anything, call twisted he runs this benchmarks nicely

HiVizMan
06-15-2014, 10:47 AM
All benchmarks with only one or maybe two exceptions, even the 3D ones are CPU speed benchmarks. The trick is being more efficient than the others at about the same frequency.

05 has a trick to it. OS is a good place to start looking.

Menthol
06-15-2014, 11:16 AM
Viz am I correct in thinking hwbot rules for 05 you only run the 3D tests, CPU tests not needed?

HiVizMan
06-15-2014, 11:40 AM
That is correct.

meankeys
06-15-2014, 11:45 AM
Oh so I dont need to run the cpu test in 3dmark 05 - that will take care of my problem for now.

HiVizMan
06-15-2014, 11:48 AM
Yip only the 3D part.

Dartmaul
06-15-2014, 12:53 PM
Is there any sense to run legacy tests on win8?

meankeys
06-15-2014, 12:57 PM
I suggest there's no sense to run legacy 3D tests on win8.
Graphics may be faster only with DX11 and CPU tests would be slower.

Hi Dart - I believe your right as I am finding out with my testing. I think am going to use Win 7 for the challenge. Now not sure what video card to use. Titain, R9 280X or my 7950 all are air cooled.

Thanks Viz for the update

jab383
06-15-2014, 01:10 PM
Okay, let's see if I get this right.

Hardware per sig - 4770K on water
AMD Firepro W5000 and Intel 4600 integrated graphics

Speeds:
CPU core clock: 4773 MHz
RAM clock: 1219 MHz
iGPU clock: 1727 MHz
Firepro: 825MHz locked

37734

Scores:

RealBench: 91756
SuperPi 1M: 7.519
SuperPi 32M: 6:34.696
3DMark05: 43421*
3DMark Firestrike: 3150*

As to the asterisks on the 3DMark scores: It seems AMD doesn't consider the Firepro enough of a gaming card to submit the pro driver to Futuremark for approval, nor would I expect them to. The website gives a score, with the "Unapproved" caveat. I think that's outside HWBOT rules, so if it's not acceptable just eliminate me in the first round. That's likely anyway with those scores.

37735

37736

37737

37738

37739

meankeys
06-15-2014, 02:02 PM
Jab Lookin good from here. I dont think that will be a problem. Are you using a beta driver?

Rockford
06-15-2014, 02:52 PM
Very nice Jab..

Rockford
06-15-2014, 02:54 PM
All benchmarks with only one or maybe two exceptions, even the 3D ones are CPU speed benchmarks. The trick is being more efficient than the others at about the same frequency.

05 has a trick to it. OS is a good place to start looking.

Disable HT?

twisted1
06-15-2014, 03:05 PM
Disable HT?

That's correct Paw, HT not needed. Only needed for 06 or newer if I'm not misstaken.

You should run your 290X and the 7970 in RB btw, boosts the CL score :)

I've managed to get four gpu's in my system atm, doesn't boost the CL score as much as it should though.

Rockford
06-15-2014, 03:10 PM
did some testing with the 290x.. at 1350mhz the score went nuts, and very high

270-280 k samples or something like that, cant remember the exact numbers

jab383
06-15-2014, 07:50 PM
Jab Lookin good from here. I dont think that will be a problem. Are you using a beta driver?

Not beta. It's that it is a pro board with its own family of drivers.

Consider a Radeon HD 7850 (same GPU, GDDR and base clock) with locked clocks and extra burden from pro Video BIOS and drivers -- like it's downclocked. It does what I need it for, though.

Jeff

meankeys
06-15-2014, 07:51 PM
#3 - R4BE - i7 4930K @ 4700 MHz - 16 GB Cosair Dominator GT - GTX TiTAN

3DMark05 = 46202
Firestrike = 10813
Spi-1m = 7.821
Spi-32m = 7m 12.629 Sec.
RealBench = 102028


37760

37761

37762

37763

37764

jab383
06-15-2014, 07:55 PM
You should run your 290X and the 7970 in RB btw, boosts the CL score :)

I've managed to get four gpu's in my system atm, doesn't boost the CL score as much as it should though.

Even the 4770K integrated graphics is worth a couple hundred on the RealBench bottom line. Pile 'em on.

Jeff

twisted1
06-15-2014, 08:03 PM
Even the 4770K integrated graphics is worth a couple hundred on the RealBench bottom line. Pile 'em on.

Jeff

Jepp, I'm doing this challenge on a 2700k wich doesn't have support for CL on the IGP.

I removed one GPU, it didn't really help out that much. Testing 7970+6950+5850 atm.

meankeys
06-15-2014, 08:13 PM
Guy's If you recall CL does not contribute to the overall score total buy very much.

Menthol
06-15-2014, 09:28 PM
Nice benching meankeys
Jab good to see you entering, I have to ask you about the memory in your pc? are you running with 2 memory kits, you should be able to clock higher with just 2 sticks, but also shouldn't each kit be in separate channels, one kit in the red slots, one in the black. That being said it has not seemed to hinder your benching

jab383
06-15-2014, 11:23 PM
Nice benching meankeys
Jab good to see you entering, I have to ask you about the memory in your pc? are you running with 2 memory kits, you should be able to clock higher with just 2 sticks, but also shouldn't each kit be in separate channels, one kit in the red slots, one in the black. That being said it has not seemed to hinder your benching

One kit in each channel is the way it is - one kit in each red/black pair. The two kits run at the same speed and timing according to MemTweakit and Aida64. The DIMMs have the same capacity, so they give dual channel operation all the time.

I have tried just the faster Muchkin kit, but it wouldn't do anywhere as well as when all four slots are populated. The timing is way tighter than XMP for either kit and the whole 32GB can track BCLK increase to over 103.

I think this means two things: One, I got very lucky with these two kits. Two, we keep underestimating the Haswell IMC. These two kits have run this speed and timing with six different CPUs, including the bad overclockers I don't have anymore.

Jeff

Menthol
06-16-2014, 12:17 AM
Thanks, I had to ask, if it works that's what counts, my best Haswell ocer has the worst IMC, doesn't like 4 sticks at high clocks at all

darkage
06-16-2014, 10:24 AM
RealBench:
SuperPi 1M:
SuperPi 32M:
3DMark05:
3DMark Firestrike:

377703777137772
hmm i think i am going to stay out of the benching, i have run sp1 /sp32 / firestrike , but the 290 is failing and i cant install any drivers as it bsod, will try to update the bios and see if it works, if not i will have to rma it to sapphire and will have to stop benching as i only have last a xfx 6450
lets see how it turns out

twisted1
06-16-2014, 12:29 PM
377703777137772
hmm i think i am going to stay out of the benching, i have run sp1 /sp32 / firestrike , but the 290 is failing and i cant install any drivers as it bsod, will try to update the bios and see if it works, if not i will have to rma it to sapphire and will have to stop benching as i only have last a xfx 6450
lets see how it turns out

I'm having problems also, my RIVE is acting up, wont boot just boot loops. Doesn't stop at any post code. Going to RMA it.

And my 2700k system is locking up/bsod at windows load, nothing seems to help. The os/disk is ok since it works in other systems.

Have you messed with the mem voltage on your 290X? Apparently that can damage the card.

darkage
06-16-2014, 01:16 PM
i just cant overclock it, its working well with the uefi bios, will flash new bios and see if it goes well, its to hot here
its a 290 not X version :-)

twisted1
06-16-2014, 02:30 PM
i just cant overclock it, its working well with the uefi bios, will flash new bios and see if it goes well, its to hot here
its a 290 not X version :-)

Did you try a 290X bios on it? Some of them you can unlock to 290X.

Looks like i killed my 2700k benching RB yesterday(keep getting BSOD 09C at windows loading logo), can't participate in the challenge I'm afraid. As my RIVE is going to RMA all I have is a 3770k that's got a damaged contact pad so it will only run single channel memory, and it runs the gpu @Pci-e X4 :/

If I get the RIVE back in time and all works well I'll post some scores though.

HiVizMan
06-16-2014, 03:15 PM
Good to see some scores posted up keep it coming guys. If you guys need a good OS for 05 then Vista is the way to go.

Super Pi is XP Pro

Firestrike is Win8.1

darkage
06-16-2014, 03:49 PM
hi twisted, my wont unlock, i run in legacy mode a 290x bios i think it will work but have to lower the ovck
to bad things are like they are for you, hope you can run some tests, would love to see your results :-)
thanks man!

Dartmaul
06-16-2014, 04:37 PM
Finally I've got some time to actually join the challenge.

Maybe I've missed something, it seems that we're going with single GPU?
And also it's allowed to use different OSes for different tests?

HiVizMan
06-16-2014, 04:46 PM
Why would you ever think that you had to use the same OS? This is benching my friend. :D

If you want to go dual vga then go for it, I will have to handicap anyway because of the different hardware so it makes very little difference to me.

meankeys
06-16-2014, 05:16 PM
Good to see some scores posted up keep it coming guys. If you guys need a good OS for 05 then Vista is the way to go.

Super Pi is XP Pro

Firestrike is Win8.1

Thanks for the tip viz :)

flexnl
06-16-2014, 05:18 PM
can i still join in? ;)

HiVizMan
06-16-2014, 05:22 PM
Select your number and yes you are in.

Dartmaul
06-16-2014, 07:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmsklgnvdxY&feature=youtu.be
Lol


Why would you ever think that you had to use the same OS? This is benching my friend. :D
Just noticed guys're running Spi on Win7:eek:

Menthol
06-17-2014, 12:36 AM
Rules and Limitations
1. No sub ambient benching
2. HWBOT submission rules apply
3. Official wallpaper must be used
4. Photo of your benching rig with first submission
5. Same hardware and frequency for all benchmark
6. Handicapping will apply depending on hardware used*
7. Weekly bonus points for submissions
8. Quarter final shoot out 5 bonus points
9. Semi Final shoot out 10 bonus points
10. Final shoot out 15 bonus
11. World Cup winner 20 bonus points**
*Handicapping will be based on the HWBOT hardware index for each benchmark.
**Best first time participant will receive additional bonus points depending on Brazil's final position.

Running everything on Win 7, first week Dart, have to save the fine tweaking for further into the competition or there will be nothing left.
For me, the same frequency for all benchmarks is the tough part I am assuming the same frequency on all components CPU, RAM, GPU, VRAM. For me Realbench is limiting the frequency of my IV-E so it also limits my frequency on all benchmarks.

Can we change the system we are using or will that cancel prior submissions

meankeys
06-17-2014, 08:46 AM
That was the hard part for me. Deciding what hardware to use. The way I read it you can bump up your freq. as long as you can run all benchmarks at that speed. I think. Viz meant cpu freq. only not memory. I dont have a problem with you changing hardware but to be fair I would think your first subs will not count. Now what I would like to see is you taking the first spot from that dude in the team cup 2014 RB he only has a 120000 something. Wink

Dartmaul
06-17-2014, 09:56 AM
Stupid question, but still: where can I purchaise 3D05 serial? Futuremark website doesn't seems to be selling it anymore(

HiVizMan
06-17-2014, 10:10 AM
All must be the same. CPU and VGA core and and memory frequency must be the same across all the benchmarks.


You can change hardware as you like, the last hardware used will be your submission. You will not loose your bonus points for the previous submissions.

S/N: License code: M0SFK-WHCQU-KM0SU-X07W3


Do not submit on line.

Menthol
06-17-2014, 10:30 AM
meankeys, I don't mind loosing first subs, I would also like to best 120k in RB, I can't get my CPU to run RB at the speed it needs to do that. The way I see it I have already won, I'm benching with my best friends

Dartmaul
06-17-2014, 10:50 AM
Thank you Sir!

Rockford
06-17-2014, 12:52 PM
Same hardware and frequency for all benchmark

i want to highlight that also..

cpu/mem -- gpu/vram shall be the same clocks for all benchmarks in this challenge, (this IS the challenge)

So you cant run realbench with the cpu at 5ghz and the gpu at 1330/1770 and then Mark05 at 5ghz and 1330/1790 (just an example)

Dartmaul
06-17-2014, 02:25 PM
4930k - 4810MHz H2O
RIVE - H2O
Pi 4x2GB - 1315MHz 8-12-8
R9 290x - 1300/1650 H2O

RB - 110051
FS - 12558
05 - 46275
Spi32M - 6.45.656
Spi1M - 7.578
37870
37865
37866
37867
37868
37869

Arne Saknussemm
06-17-2014, 02:25 PM
I will have to pull out of the comp...what with moving and whatnot....I can't find my SSDs! LOL

I left the table here for scores etc....flexnl grab a number...https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvHbSZ0_ncywdGxhTWdoZmZhMkxVTVpFUHhzcG5Tc lE&usp=sharing#gid=0

Will be watching with interest :D

meankeys
06-17-2014, 04:19 PM
Nice run Dart

Dartmaul
06-17-2014, 04:21 PM
By the way, guys, for some of you who'd like to get license keys for legacy 3DMarks - check this thread:
http://community.futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?178781-3DMark03-!&p=1827328#post1827328

I've received a PM with 03 05 and 06 keys)

Rockford
06-17-2014, 04:21 PM
dart you ran different gpu ram clocks on some of the benchmarks? 1600-1650

and different mobo memory clocks also 1283-1315

Too all of you, we have had this situation in the past also..

Is it the CORE clocks that need to be the same on all benchmarks, or the clock frequencies

I mean its pretty easy to reach higher/pass if we are allowed to change the freq, from one benchmark to another??

Timings can be changed OK.. But as far as the frequencies i ran mine without changing them in all benchmarks?? did i do wrong again?

I think the true sport is to manage to run all the benchmarks with the same frequencies, and complete them, with as high score as possible?

Thats a challenge!!

Viz> I want clear guidelines now!!

Dartmaul
06-17-2014, 04:31 PM
Only CPU frequency and yes that was the point of the entire process to create a hard ceiling.

Paw, it really seems to me that "same freq" rule is applied for CPU freq only. If I have misunderstood that, I would re-bench.
I understand your aspiration to make our challenges fair, transparent and make everyone equal, and I absolutely agree with you. I do not want to cheat, or abuse the rules and restrictions anyhow, so if I made something against the rules I would gladly re-bench these submissions to fit my other submissions.

If "same freq" rule would be applied to every single clock - then it would cut the most of the tweaks and system tuning opportunities. Doesn't seems to be a good thing for a benching challenge imo.

Rockford
06-17-2014, 04:37 PM
I am not angry at you Dart..

its just that we have had this discussion in the past also, from the last challenge in here

some members worked their asses off, to mange the benchmarks at the same clocks, while others altered the clocks and ran pretty smooth, with higher scores as a result

Dartmaul
06-17-2014, 04:45 PM
I agree with you my friend, but I'm sure it's only because of lack of understanding the initial rules.

Let's wait for HiViz to say his word and we'll obey to the master's will!

Rockford
06-17-2014, 04:46 PM
yes it the best thing to do..

lets hold for the ref

HiVizMan
06-17-2014, 05:09 PM
Ok I think that all of you guys want one frequency across the benchmarks for CPU and VGA - that includes memory too.

So in the interests in community spirit and because we are all bosses here. The rule has been defined as the same hardware and the same frequency for core and memory for both CPU and VGA.

The same frequency across the benchmarks in other words.

Dartmaul
06-17-2014, 05:14 PM
Darn, have to redo all the tests(

HiVizMan
06-17-2014, 06:04 PM
Darn, have to redo all the tests(

Sorry Dart my reply to you earlier was the cause of this confusion. When I read the original rules that Menthol posted it is quite clear. So my bad and sorry.

Dartmaul
06-17-2014, 06:40 PM
Never mind)
Until the day my HW would die it's never an issue to re-bench)

meankeys
06-17-2014, 06:50 PM
Ok I need to resubmit my subs too. I changed my ram and vga freq. I thought same freq meant cpu only. I will resubmit.
Its all good

HiVizMan
06-17-2014, 06:54 PM
Thanks guys my bad for not being clear.

Rockford
06-17-2014, 07:02 PM
if you run lets say realbench with a gpu mem at 1770 and pass, and then move on to firestrike and it fail at 1770mhz, you have to lower the mem clock / all benchmarks to complete the benchmarks, and pass, or compensate with other tweaks

If you run realbench at 1770mhz and pass, and also mark05 and pass, but then you lower the mem to 1740mhz so you will pass firestrike = you will gain points in mark05, and realbench, over the rest of us = easy tweak

This is just an example, a bad one maybe, but i think you all know what i mean

Its a act of balance. and its tweaking premium

A tips is to start with firestrike, that is the heavy benchmark to pass for the gpu, and realbench for the cpu/mem

same rule apply to the DDR3 clocks, realbench vs Pi and so on, you may pass pi at 2933mhz cl 7, but not realbench..

It can be an major advantage, to run different memclocks, at different benchmarks when it comes to the combined score of the benchmarks, and yes one benchmark can bring down the overall scores.. thats the delight

i hope you guys understand my POV.. and no one is accused of anything!!!!!!!!!!

/ Not a grumpy bear

Dartmaul
06-17-2014, 07:35 PM
Paw, there's a thing about vMem for AMD cards.
AMD cards have ECC memory. That means it can fix some mem errors in cost of performance, so the highest mem freq doesn't always gives highest performance.

Also a tip about ram.
Use higher RAM freq. Compensate it with higher timings for RB and Spi32M.
For example it's better to pass 3D with 2800cl9 and 2D with 2800cl10 than stick at 2600MHz for keeping thin latency.

meankeys
06-17-2014, 08:05 PM
I dont want to complicate things but I have a question actually two.

1. do we really need to run our gpu's max out on the spi run?
2. on the second sub can we change the freq as long as all benching is done with said freq?

Rockford
06-17-2014, 08:27 PM
i think i can answer that

1. I leave this one to the boss to answer, but i see no reason to run the gpu at the OC clocks, at super pi 1m, and 32m, since the GPU isnt involved in those benchmarks when it comes to points..

2. Yes, the second round of subs, you can swap HW if you like, with new gained clocks (same freq rule), or push your current hw higher if you can.. just keep the freq's all the way through the round/set

round = set

Example of hw swap from round 1 / round 2>

first round/hw > 4670K at 5ghz/2400mhz 6970 at 1100mhz1770mhz = maxed out

second round/hw>4960X at 5,1ghz/2933mhz 280X at 1050/1825mhz = maxed out

third round/hw RMA RMA :D


or same hw round 1 / round 2>

first round> 4770k 4.9ghz 7970 at 1500mhz/1800mhz
second round> 4770k 4.95ghz 7970 at 1530mhz/1770mhz

its really simple, but when i start to explain it all becomes a blur,, as usual..

Rockford
06-17-2014, 08:58 PM
later the boss can announce a bonus benchmark.. full out no freq rule

jab383
06-17-2014, 08:59 PM
I think I like WhitePaw's rules even though I have only one set of HW.

Jeff

Rockford
06-17-2014, 09:02 PM
its not my rules J.. :eek:

It has been the general rules more or less, the last challenges we have had in here

members opinions, and suggestions..

Viz is the authority..

Dartmaul
06-17-2014, 09:03 PM
I'm pretty sure that there's absolutely no need to apply overclock to GPU for SuperPi. Doesn't makes sense.
Also for me it would be a very bad news since there's no 290X VGA driver for XP, so I can't OC my GPU under this OS.

Rockford
06-17-2014, 09:05 PM
I agree with Dart..

Viz is not here now (he is attending cooking class for bald this evening), but i am pretty sure its ok with him, that we drop the gpu freq rule, for the superPI benchmarks



37875

2014-06-17 / Tiger Muffin exam

Menthol
06-18-2014, 12:24 AM
That looks like my PC case during the last week of competition, I can teach you how to do that, no class necessary

Menthol
06-18-2014, 12:31 AM
To be honest I was not 100% sure of the frequency rule so I used same frequency's for all bench's except of course GPU on Spi. just to be safe. That is why you cannot clock everything to the max during first week, you have to save a little because all that's left is OS and OS tweaks, ram timings, and luck, I rely on luck a lot, stay close to the top scores so you don't get to far behind in points and go for broke the last run

Rockford
06-18-2014, 12:57 AM
That looks like my PC case during the last week of competition, I can teach you how to do that, no class necessary

did your EVGA supernova look like something like that when it fried?

meankeys
06-18-2014, 01:01 AM
OK I got it. I dont know why I mentioned the gpu and spi that was just stupid = brain fart

So I will need to redo my first sub as the gpu freq was diff on the fire strike and 3dmark05

lets see what the haswell 4760K and some apple pi will do. be back shortly

Menthol
06-18-2014, 02:05 AM
The EVGA PS has worked flawlessly since the RMA, I didn't have much trust in it for a long time, I use it to power GPU's
Speaking of Apple Pie, USA won first game, LA Kings brought home the Stanly Cup

meankeys
06-18-2014, 02:30 AM
The EVGA PS has worked flawlessly since the RMA, I didn't have much trust in it for a long time, I use it to power GPU's
Speaking of Apple Pie, USA won first game, LA Kings brought home the Stanly Cup

USA all the way :) congrats on the Stanly cup Menthol - party time :)

HiVizMan
06-18-2014, 11:13 AM
I dont want to complicate things but I have a question actually two.

1. do we really need to run our gpu's max out on the spi run?


No

2. on the second sub can we change the freq as long as all benching is done with said freq?

Been answered.


later the boss can announce a bonus benchmark.. full out no freq rule

Better believe it is coming.




I think I like WhitePaw's rules even though I have only one set of HW.

Jeff

Paw is often very sensible. And his interpretation is accurate.


I'm pretty sure that there's absolutely no need to apply overclock to GPU for SuperPi. Doesn't makes sense.
Also for me it would be a very bad news since there's no 290X VGA driver for XP, so I can't OC my GPU under this OS.

Quite correct.




OK I got it. I dont know why I mentioned the gpu and spi that was just stupid = brain fart

So I will need to redo my first sub as the gpu freq was diff on the fire strike and 3dmark05

lets see what the haswell 4760K and some apple pi will do. be back shortly

Thank you mate.

Henkenator68NL
06-18-2014, 10:23 PM
Just to be sure, what is deadline for first week entry. My system is like a box off Lego, hope to get it up and running tomorrow. Nb @ Arne where is the matrix waterblock? Did you inform about it?

darkage
06-18-2014, 10:52 PM
hi
as you all may know i am stuck with a crap 290, but i may have the chance to trade a piece of a kidney for a 280X dcIIt, does anybody knows if it is worth or they still have artifact and memory voltage problems after the last bios update ?
i can get also a matrix 7970 but the guy doesn't want to supply me the invoice so it smells like fire
would appreciate any kind of feedback to see if i can enter before the end of the year
thanks!

Henkenator68NL
06-18-2014, 11:15 PM
Did you try different bios versions on the he 290? Also with some modding you can maybe push it with Afterburner, I recently flashed a friends R9 to the X version. It all works perfect (sharders are 2500 off course instead of 2800 something). But freq/core went way up.

darkage
06-18-2014, 11:25 PM
mine is originally a sapphire card (was a trade with a 680 DCII) and i use it now with a asus 290X bios also,and all works well (not unlocked) the problem is the reference cooler i think
i am testing again at night as it is hot here

Rockford
06-18-2014, 11:27 PM
i hope for the express whale to arrive to your island soon..

the ref coolers isnt good for anything....

meankeys
06-18-2014, 11:36 PM
I have 3 R9 280X and they work fine. I run 1 in my gaming rig and all my games run on max settings three 24" monitors 5760X1080P

Stock cooling

Rockford
06-18-2014, 11:39 PM
yes, i didnt notice anything odd with my 280x, it was Powercolor, but anyway

meankeys
06-19-2014, 12:00 AM
Mine are XFX

meankeys
06-19-2014, 01:11 AM
i5 4670K@4990 MHz ---- SS COOLING _____
16GB Corsair Dominator GT@2304 MHz
GTX TiTAN - 1148/1700
Z87-K

3DM05 - 42404
FireStrike - 10357
SPi-1M - 7.266
SPi-32M - 6m 22.438
RealBench - 89090

37929

37930

37931

37932

37965

Dartmaul
06-19-2014, 06:14 AM
BTW are we using SuperPi v1.5 (original, used on HWbot, or the latest one? Doest it even matter?

meankeys
06-19-2014, 08:26 AM
I grabbed a copy from the bot and I think it is 1.90.

Menthol
06-19-2014, 11:20 AM
What about RB is there any difference in scores between 2.0, 2.1 0r 2.2

darkage
06-19-2014, 11:24 AM
spi in hwbot i think is 1.5 only and as hiviz stated hwbot rules apply, so i think it has to be 1.5

Dartmaul
06-19-2014, 12:55 PM
What about RB is there any difference in scores between 2.0, 2.1 0r 2.2
As I know, scores in any RB v2.* are comparable, the difference between these versions are in GUI and some stress testing features.

HiVizMan
06-19-2014, 03:01 PM
Hey I replied this morning so where is my post????


Answer - you use the HWBot version for super Pi only. And the latest version of ROG Realbench no other versions.


The week will end at midnight on Sunday GMT.

meankeys
06-20-2014, 01:33 AM
Updated my RB sub to version 2.2
I should be good for this weeks submission.
GL HF

HiVizMan
06-20-2014, 12:03 PM
Cheers thanks lads. Once the first weeks scores are in and the football first round has passed I will allocate a team as per the numbers chosen. Then the fun and games will begin.

darkage
06-20-2014, 07:04 PM
ok a quick one so i don't stay out this week (meankeys i copy paste your things so any problem let me know )
i7 4930K@4500 MHz ---- water cooling _____
16GB G.Skill Tridentx 2400 MHz Stock Cooling
R9 290 - 1110/1350 Stock Cooling
RIVE Bios 4901

3DM05 - 40975
FireStrike - 9715
SPi-1M - 8.140
SPi-32M - 7m 33.342
RealBench - 98008
3798637987379883798937990

Dartmaul
06-21-2014, 11:29 AM
Why don't you OC VGA for RB? It's used for OpenCL test.

darkage
06-21-2014, 09:32 PM
well it is overclocked as it is a 290 :-)
the card has the reference cooler and i am having problems overclocking it, been trying some new bios, will see how it goes, this was only so i didn't
miss this week

MatsGlobetrotter
06-22-2014, 08:06 AM
Am going off on a trip again so will miss out on this competition a bit longer but here is my contribution to the well being of fellow OC'ers :-)
I took this picture when I was in Rio last year. It got all the colors and curves of the WorldCup :-)

38017

Henkenator68NL
06-22-2014, 08:56 AM
Sweet, normally i am not into feather's, but(t) for these birds, I'll even do a limbo dance. Good on you m8

meankeys
06-22-2014, 12:50 PM
Mat sorry to hear you will miss the comp. nice pic. have a safe trip.

Myk SilentShadow
06-22-2014, 01:52 PM
Hey hey guys, been pretty busy working and packing my life away at the moment(moving house), so I may only be able to get a minimum of 1 sub per week done...so, here goes :cool:

CPU i7 3820 @ 4625MHz
RAM @ 2000MHz
VGA NO OC

RB 2.2: 75848
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/Brazillian%20Carnival%20OC%20Challenge/RB22-C4600M2000_zps6ba60f63.png

Firestrike: 6757
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/Brazillian%20Carnival%20OC%20Challenge/FS-C4600M2000_zpse5f3a019.png

3DM05: 39899
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/Brazillian%20Carnival%20OC%20Challenge/3DM05-C4600M2000_zpsfd0a6c1c.png

SPi 1M: 8.159s
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/Brazillian%20Carnival%20OC%20Challenge/SPI1M-C4600M2000_zps704f95d2.png

SPi 32M: 7m34.366s
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/Brazillian%20Carnival%20OC%20Challenge/SPI32M-C4600M2000_zps40e411ad.png

Rig pic, for posterity :p
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr194/TheVaempyrMyk/Brazillian%20Carnival%20OC%20Challenge/MyksRig_zpsd16d8f4a.jpg

HiVizMan
06-22-2014, 02:50 PM
Cheers guys looking good. AND no I do not mean the feathers.

Myk SilentShadow
06-22-2014, 02:52 PM
Cheers guys looking good. AND no I do not mean the feathers.

HAH!! yeah right Viz :cool: :p

Henkenator68NL
06-22-2014, 09:05 PM
Wow jus in time i hope.
My submission
Maximus VI Extreme
Core i7 4770K @ 4700MHZ
R9 290X @ 1220/1500MHz
2x4GB TridentX @ 2400
CPU and GPU on custom waterloop

38041380423804338044380453804638047

HiVizMan
06-23-2014, 08:50 AM
Talk about cutting it fine.

OK all this is the cut off post here. Any thing submitted from today is for the next week. 3 weeks to go.

One week all out challenge. That means anything goes.

3DMark Vantage

10 Bonus points for the best score and 5 for submitting.

Henkenator68NL
06-23-2014, 01:04 PM
HiViz,

Allright, nice. Great to have you with us again, I sure missed those Challenges of yours.

My compliments for your ingenuity, as anyways great!!!

meankeys
06-23-2014, 04:07 PM
Sweet! gl hf everyone

Menthol
06-24-2014, 01:07 AM
Anything goes Vantage, that's what I'm talking about thanks Viz you read my mind

meankeys
06-24-2014, 01:16 AM
Try this out for size :)

38077

Henkenator68NL
06-24-2014, 08:57 AM
Try this out for size :)

You mean Eat this right ???

LOL OMG epic score!


ps how many gpu's are you using?

Menthol
06-24-2014, 11:33 AM
way to go meankeys, right out of the gate BAM
I believe he's using 4 7950's, and I can't touch that score, I have no multi GPU's at the moment

Arne Saknussemm
06-24-2014, 11:36 AM
Heh...nice meankeys!

Menthol! W....wh...what? :confused: does not compute...

HiVizMan
06-24-2014, 01:39 PM
LOL talk about putting a score up.

twisted1
06-24-2014, 02:37 PM
Try this out for size :)

38077

Nice meankeys! Now OC those 7950's ;)

jab383
06-24-2014, 03:27 PM
Nice, meankeys. Way out of my class, if 19216 is even a class.

38091

Jeff

HiVizMan
06-24-2014, 03:41 PM
Your card is a working card not a gamer card so you are top of your class mate. :D :p

meankeys
06-24-2014, 04:54 PM
Thanks Guy's
I surprised my self with that score. My display driver keeps failing and then recovers? Had the same problem with Win 8 and Win 7. (The run was on Win 7) Not sure if it's the new driver or what. (14.4) 4 XFX HD 7950 Stock

Dartmaul
06-24-2014, 05:55 PM
Tty to use some older drivers, like 12.8 or something. Also use Win7, it grands better CPU score.
PS Use LOD and dual channel RAM

PPS You guys are crazy vcore freaks!

darkage
06-24-2014, 07:19 PM
mi petit thingy (compared to mean man :-( )
38098

jab383
06-24-2014, 08:57 PM
Your card is a working card not a gamer card so you are top of your class mate. :D :p

That's how I got gold cups on HWBOT. Nobody else is crazy enough to bench a card that doesn't overclock.

Jeff

meankeys
06-24-2014, 10:36 PM
Jab that's a great score for that card.

Darkage.. I was going to try an older driver. Thanks for the tip on the dual channel and LOD Ill give it a go.

Pete turn me on to a vbios editor. I want to find some water blocks for these 7950's and then we will see what they can do. I am a bit surprised that one of my R9 280X stock runs better than two 7950 in my main gaming rig no OC - Maximus III formula - 3 24" monitors eyefinity 5760X1080p all games @ max settings

Myk SilentShadow
06-25-2014, 01:29 AM
Is Vantage the free edition, or paid for? it's pretty cheap at the moment, so I can buy it and get some bad scores, since I won't be ocing my 7970.

HiVizMan
06-25-2014, 01:03 PM
If it is cheap enough it is worth it, just for the ability to pick and choose the tests you run for score.

Menthol
06-26-2014, 03:13 AM
Are we supposed to submit all the benches plus Vantage this week or only Vantage, Dart post up buddy before I drop the bomb.
Viz I am taking next week off work, I have a few things planed but will mostly be around home, if I can help entering scores or something to help please ask

Henkenator68NL
06-26-2014, 05:37 AM
I have a few things planed but will mostly be around home, if I can help entering scores or something to help please ask Same for me, so just let us know if we can assist!

HiVizMan
06-26-2014, 10:52 AM
Same for me, so just let us know if we can assist!


Are we supposed to submit all the benches plus Vantage this week or only Vantage, Dart post up buddy before I drop the bomb.
Viz I am taking next week off work, I have a few things planed but will mostly be around home, if I can help entering scores or something to help please ask


This week is either or or, ideally I would like to see improvements each week as our tweaking skills improve. The sharing of how we achieved those improvements is the ultimate outcome of these challenges so that all benefit by the collective knowledge.

I sent out a Vista ISO for benching with some instructions how to use it for 3Dmark05 would the lad I sent the OS link to please share via PM to the guys in the contest.

Ok this week is a hard week for me, treatment time. LOL and that means I am going to be pretty tired come Friday and most of next week. So big yes if between you two guys you would collate the results for me. Use a shared google document and I will do the handicapping and include the next stage which is the knock out bonus part in line with the football.

twisted1
06-26-2014, 01:11 PM
Jab that's a great score for that card.

Darkage.. I was going to try an older driver. Thanks for the tip on the dual channel and LOD Ill give it a go.

Pete turn me on to a vbios editor. I want to find some water blocks for these 7950's and then we will see what they can do. I am a bit surprised that one of my R9 280X stock runs better than two 7950 in my main gaming rig no OC - Maximus III formula - 3 24" monitors eyefinity 5760X1080p all games @ max settings

I see a lot of cheap 7950 blocks on aquatuning for example. You need to find out if your cards are ref. PCB or not though. If they're ref you should be able to find blocks pretty cheap.

I use vga universal blocks on alot of cards, you just got to make sure you keep the VRMs cool.

HiVizMan
06-26-2014, 01:18 PM
twisted1 please pm the link I and instruction on how to use the OS to those guys who want it.

twisted1
06-26-2014, 03:23 PM
twisted1 please pm the link I and instruction on how to use the OS to those guys who want it.

Yes sir will do.

If I forget anybody just send me a PM and remind me!

Menthol
06-28-2014, 12:24 AM
Twisted1 thanks, Henk, I took Arne's doc and entered all scores to date, don't know how to share the doc

Henkenator68NL
06-28-2014, 03:40 AM
Twisted1 thanks, Henk, I took Arne's doc and entered all scores to date, don't know how to share the doc

The problem is that documents cannot be shared directly on the forum. Options: either share a link to a google sheet, or use the list function here on the forum (and copy and paste).

Henkenator68NL
06-28-2014, 03:48 AM
Score for Vantage all out:
maximus vi extreme
core i7 4770k @ 4800MHz
dram 2x4GB @ 2200MHz
GPU: 2 x R9 290X @ 1100/1500 (1 x reference water cooled, 1 Matrix Platinum stock):

P56855
38191

3DM05 :
maximus vi extreme
core i7 4770k @ 4800MHz
dram 2x4GB @ 1600MHz
GPU: 1 x R9 290X @ 1280/1500 (1 x reference water cooled):

Score: 50958
38192

thats it for now

Menthol
06-28-2014, 04:36 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j8ppfuqs66lvez2/HiViz%20Brazilian%20carnival%20.xlsx

Menthol
06-28-2014, 05:18 AM
Vantage all out = 77984
CPU 4960X@5015 Mem@1407
GPU 780tiX2@1468 Mem1900

38193

Arne Saknussemm
06-28-2014, 10:08 AM
Very nice Menthol! Nice CPU! And got yourself the second card! That on your chiller?

HiVizMan
06-28-2014, 10:26 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j8ppfuqs66lvez2/HiViz%20Brazilian%20carnival%20.xlsx

Thank you so very much.


Gents the last 16 is upon us. Your teams that were drawn randomly will be posted up in the next two hours. You have the option to change your team to any of the left over teams, but only one change is allowed. What that means is this. There are 16 teams left of which 15 are available (Brazil is not available) we have less than 15 participants.



38195

Menthol
06-28-2014, 11:36 AM
Very nice Menthol! Nice CPU! And got yourself the second card! That on your chiller?
Thanks Arne, Summer Santa did bring me a second GPU, much higher ASIC than the other for those who may think it makes a difference the GPU clocks the same as first card but the memory doesn't clock nearly as high. On Chiller but it can't keep up with the heat and 780ti's 1.5 volts to clock above 1450 require lots of power, one 1500 watt for GPU's only is strained to supply enough amps

Henkenator68NL
06-28-2014, 11:44 AM
Hhaha lol, am I from the only Country that has a team that actually made it to last 16? Or am I mistaken? (besides Chino he is from Chili right? , but not in the Challenge)

Arne Saknussemm
06-28-2014, 12:18 PM
Summer Santa LOL...

Different memory chips or same?

Chino is Mexican! Still in it! USA still in it....I'm half German so still half in it...English half taking a bath:rolleyes:

meankeys
06-28-2014, 12:56 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j8ppfuqs66lvez2/HiViz%20Brazilian%20carnival%20.xlsx

Thanks Menthol looks great. I have to tell you my first 4930K subs dont count as my freqs were different. My first week subs are my 4670K

Nice freaking vantage score btw

jab383
06-28-2014, 07:32 PM
My pitiful Vantage score is in and here are the benchmarks for this week, somewhat improved. Maybe these will give a better standing.

Hardware as in my sig. and as previously pictured.
4770K core clock 4800MHz, RAM clock 1225.6 MHz
Firepro W5000 GPU clock 825MHz, graphics RAM 800 MHz


Realbench 92571
SuperPi 1M 7.488
SuperPi 32M 6:32.513
3DMark05 44839
3DMark Firestrike 3149

38214

38215

38216

38217

38218

The improvement mostly came from the short life expectancy of my 4770K -- 3 days. My scheduled trip to the local neighborhood Microcenter is coming Monday. I got the courage to put the 4770K into degradation territory -- 1.65Vcore and 2.00Vccin. That's what it took to run Realbench at 4800MHz without those pesky BSOD 101. The other benchmarks improved proportionally as a result -- up about half a percent. I must not have been as lucky with Firestrike as last week.

Realbench benefits from some other tweaks. WhitePaw mentioned in another thread a while back that he reduces the screen resolution to run Realbench. I think I figured out how and why and came up with a big step in the image processing stage. The other stages also benefit from some other OS streamlining.

You're right. This is a learning experience.

Jeff

Arne Saknussemm
06-28-2014, 07:40 PM
You seen this jab383 http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?35793-ROG-Benchmarking-Tweaks-amp-Tips&country=&status= :D

meankeys
06-28-2014, 08:05 PM
Nice numbers Jab

Yeah those tweaks add points for sure. I use them and not just for realbench ether.