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LeonardoTan
07-02-2014, 09:33 PM
Must I convert this SSD into gpt mode first or it is already in gpt mode so I can easily perform win 8 install on this ssd without converting it first?

Dario723
07-03-2014, 03:19 AM
...mine was in GPT by default

LeonardoTan
07-03-2014, 05:43 AM
so you dont have to format the drive first right when you want to move your os from the hdd to this ssd with backtracker?

hmscott
07-03-2014, 06:12 AM
so you dont have to format the drive first right when you want to move your os from the hdd to this ssd with backtracker?

Backtracker blows away any partitioning on the flash drive, creates the partition it needs, and makes a bootable flash drive to recover your G750 back to the configuration it had when it came out of the box.

Before you do the restore on your G750 with the Flash drive, if you have any personal data, applications or other changes made to the disks since the G750 came out of the box, on either Bay 1 or Bay 2 drives, you need to back up that data onto an external disk, or back it up to the Bay 2 drive and pull the Bay 2 drive out before doing the restore from the Asus Backtracker Flash drive recovery is run.

And, I just checked, the Backtracker Flash partition created is a FAT32 partition:
38448

When you use the Backtracker Flash recovery to restore, it builds a GPT partition table on the boot drive:
38450
(ignore the D label, I am booting on the RAID0)

You only need to convert an SSD to GPT when it wasn't processed with the Asus Backtracker recovery - like when doing an install from a Microsoft Windows install DVD/flash drive. It needs to be GPT for UEFI bios support.

LeonardoTan
07-03-2014, 07:12 AM
Backtracker blows away any partitioning on the flash drive, creates the partition it needs, and makes a bootable flash drive to recover your G750 back to the configuration it had when it came out of the box.

Before you do the restore on your G750 with the Flash drive, if you have any personal data, applications or other changes made to the disks since the G750 came out of the box, on either Bay 1 or Bay 2 drives, you need to back up that data onto an external disk, or back it up to the Bay 2 drive and pull the Bay 2 drive out before doing the restore from the Asus Backtracker Flash drive recovery is run.

And, I just checked, the Backtracker Flash partition created is a FAT32 partition:
38448

When you use the Backtracker Flash recovery to restore, it builds a GPT partition table on the boot drive:
38450
(ignore the D label, I am booting on the RAID0)

You only need to convert an SSD to GPT when it wasn't processed with the Asus Backtracker recovery - like when doing an install from a Microsoft Windows install DVD/flash drive. It needs to be GPT for UEFI bios support.
Ok thanks, can I also use a recovery software that is provided by windows to migrate my os? Which is better backtracker or windows recovery tool?

hmscott
07-03-2014, 07:39 AM
Ok thanks, can I also use a recovery software that is provided by windows to migrate my os? Which is better backtracker or windows recovery tool?

Asus Backtracker, or Asus would have recommended Windows Recovery , and not bothered building Asus Backtracker. The Asus Backtracker gets all the drivers, configs, and installs done for you then all you need are Windows updates and Asus driver updates.

There is no known advantage of doing a Microsoft Windows install over using the Asus OEM Windows build. Except the joy of doing it all yourself from scratch.

There are no performance advantages of one over the other, and if you delete the Asus tools you don't need after recovery, no negatives either.

The only Asus stuff I delete is:

Asus Splendid - I like the native color of the panel - and making / using custom ICC profiles.

Asus Power4Gear - it doesn't really help, and gets in the way by forcing it's battery power saver plan over any I manually set. Uninstalling, I use Windows Balanced Power Plan, and High Performance plan, and there is a Power Saver plan for battery use too.

Asus Live Update - not that much comes through here, and I don't need another service running. I check the Asus Support Download areas myself. You could try it after the restore, and see what updates it provides - I do it all manually so haven't kept up with it's usefulness.

Asus Vibe - Asus estore, check it out and it might have stuff you want.

AsusDVD - I have my own Cyberlink PowerDVD Ultimate license.

Asus Gaming Mouse - I don't have an Asus gaming mouse, and for some uninstalling it has stopped BSDO's - I never had any.

Cyberlink Power2Go - I already have a license.

Sticking with Windows 8.1 is also a good idea. Make sure you get all the current Windows 8.1 updates.

G750 support areas - The JM download area has the latest of all the G750, with JS/JZ next, the
G750JW/JX/JH download areas are out of date:
http://support.asus.com/Search.aspx?SLanguage=en&keyword=g750&ps=10&pn=1

Here is the latest Notebook Audio - for G750 => Realtek driver package Version V6.0.1.7235
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Audio&os=30

Here are the latest Notebook Bluetooth drivers
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Bluetooth&p=3&ft=27&os=30

Here are the latest Notebook WLAN drivers
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=WLAN&os=3

Here are the latest Notebook LAN drivers
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&s=589&m=LAN&os=&hashedid=n%2fa

Notebook Asus SmartGesture
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ASUS+Smart+Gesture&hashedid=n%2fa

Notebook ATK Package
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ATK%20Package&hashedid=n/a

Asus GPU Tweak for Graphics Cards, currently at release 2.6.4.0 for the G750JW/JX/JH
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=9&m=ASUS%20GPU%20Tweak%20for%20Graphics

%20cards&hashedid=n/a

Asus GPU Tweak for Laptops, currently at release v1.0.9 for the G750JS/JM/JZ
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ASUS+GPU+Tweak+for+Laptops&hashedid=n

%2fa

Here are the Asus posted VGA drivers, it's better to get the latest from Nvidia - currently 340.43,
except for the JM/JS/JZ owners you probably want to keep using 332.60 to avoid random crashes - as
reported by a lot of people.
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=VGA&p=3&s=111

LeonardoTan
07-03-2014, 08:16 AM
Asus Backtracker, or Asus would have recommended Windows Recovery , and not bothered building Asus Backtracker. The Asus Backtracker gets all the drivers, configs, and installs done for you then all you need are Windows updates and Asus driver updates.

There is no known advantage of doing a Microsoft Windows install over using the Asus OEM Windows build. Except the joy of doing it all yourself from scratch.

There are no performance advantages of one over the other, and if you delete the Asus tools you don't need after recovery, no negatives either.

The only Asus stuff I delete is:

Asus Splendid - I like the native color of the panel - and making / using custom ICC profiles.

Asus Power4Gear - it doesn't really help, and gets in the way by forcing it's battery power saver plan over any I manually set. Uninstalling, I use Windows Balanced Power Plan, and High Performance plan, and there is a Power Saver plan for battery use too.

Asus Live Update - not that much comes through here, and I don't need another service running. I check the Asus Support Download areas myself. You could try it after the restore, and see what updates it provides - I do it all manually so haven't kept up with it's usefulness.

Asus Vibe - Asus estore, check it out and it might have stuff you want.

AsusDVD - I have my own Cyberlink PowerDVD Ultimate license.

Asus Gaming Mouse - I don't have an Asus gaming mouse, and for some uninstalling it has stopped BSDO's - I never had any.

Cyberlink Power2Go - I already have a license.

Sticking with Windows 8.1 is also a good idea. Make sure you get all the current Windows 8.1 updates.

G750 support areas - The JM download area has the latest of all the G750, with JS/JZ next, the
G750JW/JX/JH download areas are out of date:
http://support.asus.com/Search.aspx?SLanguage=en&keyword=g750&ps=10&pn=1

Here is the latest Notebook Audio - for G750 => Realtek driver package Version V6.0.1.7235
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Audio&os=30

Here are the latest Notebook Bluetooth drivers
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Bluetooth&p=3&ft=27&os=30

Here are the latest Notebook WLAN drivers
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=WLAN&os=3

Here are the latest Notebook LAN drivers
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&s=589&m=LAN&os=&hashedid=n%2fa

Notebook Asus SmartGesture
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ASUS+Smart+Gesture&hashedid=n%2fa

Notebook ATK Package
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ATK%20Package&hashedid=n/a

Asus GPU Tweak for Graphics Cards, currently at release 2.6.4.0 for the G750JW/JX/JH
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=9&m=ASUS%20GPU%20Tweak%20for%20Graphics

%20cards&hashedid=n/a

Asus GPU Tweak for Laptops, currently at release v1.0.9 for the G750JS/JM/JZ
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ASUS+GPU+Tweak+for+Laptops&hashedid=n

%2fa

Here are the Asus posted VGA drivers, it's better to get the latest from Nvidia - currently 340.43,
except for the JM/JS/JZ owners you probably want to keep using 332.60 to avoid random crashes - as
reported by a lot of people.
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=VGA&p=3&s=111

First of all, thank you. And how would you suggest to perform this?

So here is what I have in mind:
1. I put the System Recovery Image into a USB with ASUS Backtracker
2. Power off the laptop, battery remove, HHD swap with my new fresh SSD from the box
3. Then power on

Simple as that right?

hmscott
07-03-2014, 08:24 AM
First of all, thank you. And how would you suggest to perform this?

So here is what I have in mind:
1. I put the System Recovery Image into a USB with ASUS Backtracker
2. Power off the laptop, battery remove, HHD swap with my new fresh SSD from the box
3. Then power on
Simple as that right?

LeonardoTan, yes but also pull the 2nd bay drive too, if you have anything saved on it, because Backtracker will blow away the existing partitions and make new ones.

What is an HHD? HD = Hard disk HDD = Hard Disk Drive :)

LeonardoTan
07-03-2014, 08:34 AM
LeonardoTan, yes but also pull the 2nd bay drive too, if you have anything saved on it, because Backtracker will blow away the existing partitions and make new ones.

What is an HHD? HD = Hard disk
My mistake, I mean HDD.
hmscott thank you very much for your help!