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hozer
07-09-2014, 02:17 PM
Ok I have a G750 was working fine with Win 8.0 So I decided to do the auto update to Win 8.1. Did the update now the bios does not recognize my DVD player and the bios does not save settings to do a restore from my thumb drive. WTF is this all about. I wanted to re GHOST my last backup and my system will not see my DVD player in the bios! THIS IS BULL****!!!!!!!!!!!!! I went to the bios to reset to defaults and the bios still does not see my DVD player. Hope somebody can give me a fix for the crap. In My Opinion Windows 8 is a piece of crap. I see no reason to run Windows 8 unless you have a touch screen. Like I said Windows 8 is a piece of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Windows 8.1 is worse!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

hmscott
07-09-2014, 03:14 PM
Ok I have a G750 was working fine with Win 8.0 So I decided to do the auto update to Win 8.1. Did the update now the bios does not recognize my DVD player and the bios does not save settings to do a restore from my thumb drive. WTF is this all about. I wanted to re GHOST my last backup and my system will not see my DVD player in the bios! THIS IS BULL****!!!!!!!!!!!!! I went to the bios to reset to defaults and the bios still does not see my DVD player. Hope somebody can give me a fix for the crap. In My Opinion Windows 8 is a piece of crap. I see no reason to run Windows 8 unless you have a touch screen. Like I said Windows 8 is a piece of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Windows 8.1 is worse!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

hozer, it's a common Windows problem, triggered by updates and random hits of cosmic rays :)

This should fix it, either Step 1 or 2.

Your CD or DVD drive is not recognized by Windows or other programs
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314060

hozer
07-09-2014, 03:55 PM
hozer, it's a common Windows problem, triggered by updates and random hits of cosmic rays :)

This should fix it, either Step 1 or 2.

Your CD or DVD drive is not recognized by Windows or other programs
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314060

Thanks for the Help hmscot but that did not work Sorry :( ......... but what I did was got back into the bios and turned off the secure boot option and hooked up my external blu ray player and the bios saw that. Then booted my ghost restore disk and restored my system. Man..... A person should not have to go thru all this crap just to update to Win 8.1. I will leave my system with Win 8.0 and say the hell with Win 8.1. I may consider going back to Win 7. It's may be a little slower than Win 8 but at least I wont have to go thru this BULL**** AGAIN! and is more stable than Win 8. The bios now see's my DVD player!

Also............

Battlefield 3 would not boot with Win 8.1 and then came up with a DX11 error. So I decided to say screw Windows 8.1.... I don't need this aggravation!!!

Now my system is back up and running with Windows 8.0 ( sigh!! ) I will be think about puting Windows 7 on soon! :)

HomieOC
07-09-2014, 04:27 PM
My old asus n71jq had same issues and would lock up with windows 8.1 but a newer g750 shouldn't. Hmm. Windows 9 ftw hopefully lol

hmscott
07-09-2014, 04:47 PM
Thanks for the Help hmscot but that did not work Sorry :( ......... but what I did was got back into the bios and turned off the secure boot option and hooked up my external blu ray player and the bios saw that. Then booted my ghost restore disk and restored my system. Man..... A person should not have to go thru all this crap just to update to Win 8.1. I will leave my system with Win 8.0 and say the hell with Win 8.1. I may consider going back to Win 7. It's may be a little slower than Win 8 but at least I wont have to go thru this BULL**** AGAIN! and is more stable than Win 8. The bios now see's my DVD player!
Also............
Battlefield 3 would not boot with Win 8.1 and then came up with a DX11 error. So I decided to say screw Windows 8.1.... I don't need this aggravation!!!
Now my system is back up and running with Windows 8.0 ( sigh!! ) I will be think about puting Windows 7 on soon! :)

hozer, sorry you wasted your time going back to Windows 8.0, the problems you had have solutions, you gave up too quickly.

Patience and perseverance, and another day or two would have solved those simple problems, and any others you may have come across.

The DVD disappearing act is a common Windows problem, lots of google results come back on a search - Windows my dvd disappeared

https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+my+dvd+disappeared

Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 - its a common problem, which you can solve without rolling back to a previous Windows release.

And, there are solutions for BF3 not running in Windows 8.1 - solved way back in November 2013...
https://www.google.com/search?q=bf3+windows+8.1

Here is one solution for one BF3 problem:

Answer HQ : Battlefield : Battlefield 3 : SOLVED - Can't launch BF3 after Windows 8.1 Update
http://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-3/SOLVED-Can-t-launch-BF3-after-Windows-8-1-Update/td-p/1685903

"Since Windows 8.1 Preview is only a day old, I don't know how widespread this issue is, but I'll try to explain in the greatest possible detail:

Upon attempting to join a server in Battlefield 3 after updating to the 8.1 preview, I ran into an issue when I would be kicked by Punkbuster a few seconds after loading the map. Punkbuster cited a communication error with one of its files as the reason, however, allowing the file through my firewall did nothing.

However there is a solution:

Navigate to your Battlefield 3 directory, by default, this is located in C:\Program Files\Origin Games\Battlefield 3.

Click on the folder titled "_Installer"

Click on the folder labled "punkbuster"

Click on the "redist"

Click on and run "pbsvc"

The issue should be fixed. It solved the problem for me and a friend having the same exact problem."


This is how I fix DX error in windows 8.1 - solved way back in October 2013...
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2955065216173923758/

"I was having DXGI INVALID CALL issue since update to win81. Found from another thread.

Region -> Administrative -> language for non-Unicode programs -> Change System Locale, set to US English. reboot, then problem fixed."


Now that you know you can roll back to Windows 8.0 easily, how about you try the Windows 8.1 upgrade again?

It is possible you will run into more issues, and need to google for solutions, but at least you know you can solve the problems if you spend a little time searching.

It takes so long to do all the Windows 8.0 updates to prepare for the Windows 8.1 Upgrade, and then so much time doing all the Windows 8.1 updates, and then more time doing the Windows 8.1 driver installs (downloaded from the G750JM download area), why would you give up so quickly?

Maybe this time, after all the updates, upgrade, updates, driver installs, etc you should do a Ghost Backup so you can roll forward quicker next time?

You should know that when you make posts like this to the internet, lots of other people read it, and get scared off by your failure to upgrade - and it might keep them from upgrading too.

They don't know that you don't know what you are doing and that you gave up too quickly, they just see the emotional outburst of failure and your joy of being back on Windows 8.0 - and you even suggest retreating back to Windows 7.

There is no need to retreat and hide from problems, find solutions and keep moving forward :)

Windows Vista didn't suck, Windows 7 didn't suck, Windows 8 didn't suck, Windows 8.1 doesn't suck... people that are too impatient to learn new things and figure out simple problems say they suck. :)

Above all, kick back, relax, and have fun :)

hozer
07-09-2014, 11:04 PM
Well thanks for the tips hmscott! But being a tech for 15 years and working for INTEL for 5 years ( server mother board team ) and Adpatec ( SCSI ) for 7 years you learn real quick what needs to be done correctly. A person should not have to jump thru a SH!T load of hoops just to update an OS. That is just wrong PERIOD!

Side Note:

Windows Vista really did suck! Windows Vista was a memory hog big time and was very slow!

hmscott
07-10-2014, 04:22 AM
Well thanks for the tips hmscott! But being a tech for 15 years and working for INTEL for 5 years ( server mother board team ) and Adpatec ( SCSI ) for 7 years you learn real quick what needs to be done correctly. A person should not have to jump thru a SH!T load of hoops just to update an OS. That is just wrong PERIOD!
Side Note:
Windows Vista really did suck! Windows Vista was a memory hog big time and was very slow!

hozer, both problems were pretty minor... the problems you experience really weren't something to post such a livid report. With all your experience I can't understand why you haven't experienced a rougher time doing upgrades before now. You missed the typical Windows 8.1 upgrade bugs, and had a smooth experience from my point of view.

Vista added a lot of cool functionality that required a big jump in memory and GPU requirements. Vista was a problem for those that didn't have adequate hardware - which was a problem due to manufacturers trying to push through hardware that shouldn't have been passed as Vista compatible. I helped a number of people upgrade memory and video cards within the first couple of years of Vista release - a number of video card makers made inexpensive upgrades for just this need.

Fortunately I build top end spec PC's in each generation, for myself and clients, so none of them had problems with Vista and couldn't understand what all the Vista fuss was about.

Problems / incompatibilities during OS upgrades are to be expected, and keeping a level head is the most important thing to avoid a panic response, you didn't need to roll back, and were 99.999% of the way to a smooth running Windows 8.1 upgrade. You threw away all that time you spent on the first attempt, and may have put a block on yourself for upgrading.

hozer, I would be happy to help you through the Windows 8.1 again, and help you with any other problems that might come up. I think it can be done, since Millions of others have already done it successfully. PM me when you are ready :)

hozer
07-10-2014, 02:03 PM
hmscott there is not enough money on this planet for me to run Windows 8.1 it's crap. I have better running OS's Like Linux ( Xubuntu ) on my other machine and has better security and is faster and Windows 7 on my other machine. Sorry that you disagree with my opinion's. It is what it is so get over it. I have tried to run linux on the ROG laptop but some of the drivers don't want to work but when I have time I will find a way to run Linux ( Xubuntu ) on this laptop.

End OF My Discussion On This Issue!

hmscott
07-10-2014, 02:44 PM
hmscott there is not enough money on this planet for me to run Windows 8.1 it's crap. I have better running OS's Like Linux ( Xubuntu ) on my other machine and has better security and is faster and Windows 7 on my other machine. Sorry that you disagree with my opinion's. It is what it is so get over it. I have tried to run linux on the ROG laptop but some of the drivers don't want to work but when I have time I will find a way to run Linux ( Xubuntu ) on this laptop.
End OF My Discussion On This Issue!

hozer, then why did you try to install Windows 8.1 in the first place?

Have fun with Linux on the G750 :)

Maxter
07-10-2014, 04:00 PM
I think people don't know that in 8.1 is not really an update... it's a different OS. That's why it needs new drivers and such. Microsoft did a clever move with the naming...

hozer
07-10-2014, 04:13 PM
hozer, then why did you try to install Windows 8.1 in the first place?

Have fun with Linux on the G750 :)

\What version of linux to have running? I have Linux Xubuntu I can seam to get the mouse or some of the other drivers to work!

hozer
07-10-2014, 04:15 PM
hozer, then why did you try to install Windows 8.1 in the first place?

Have fun with Linux on the G750 :)

Just for fun to see it how it runs. Runs like crap hahahaha went back to Win 8.0 till I can get Linux running on my G750!

Maxter
07-10-2014, 04:22 PM
There is a thread that talks about linux installation for the G750 in this forum as well. Good source of info...

hmscott
07-10-2014, 05:00 PM
\What version of linux to have running? I have Linux Xubuntu I can seam to get the mouse or some of the other drivers to work!

hozer, it's much quicker and easier to use Windows as the host for Linux VM's - that way I am not limited to the 1 or 2 (or 0?) Linux distro's that fully support the G750JH hardware. Plus I can still run Windows games native on the G750JH :)

For work laptops I do it the other way, Linux host Windows VM for corp services. I don't rarely need native GPU access on Windows for work.

It is quick and easy to build and import whatever Linux distro I need at the moment, then migrate it off the laptop for later.

Here is what I have in use right now:

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Darnassus
07-11-2014, 05:49 AM
I think people don't know that in 8.1 is not really an update... it's a different OS. That's why it needs new drivers and such. Microsoft did a clever move with the naming...

I never updated any driver with mine. Works flawless. I do have an update for my chipset apparently, though.