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Darnassus
09-17-2014, 07:26 AM
Where's the download for Asus Backtracker? Apparently it's been removed from the site? Is this another blunder because I just bought myself a 16GB 3.0 USB specifically for Backtracker and now it's not available? ':f

I also heard there's problems with it with Windows 8.1?

Now I'm even more scared to do a format.. ';f

hmscott
09-17-2014, 07:58 AM
Where's the download for Asus Backtracker? Apparently it's been removed from the site? Is this another blunder because I just bought myself a 16GB 3.0 USB specifically for Backtracker and now it's not available? ':f

I also heard there's problems with it with Windows 8.1?

Now I'm even more scared to do a format.. ';f

Darnassus, someone, 1 person, complained that the newest version 3.0.7 gave him an error, I have used it and didn't get an error. If you use it and get an error, back off to the 3.0.3 version - it came with the JW/JX/JH.

ASUS Backtracker
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=Backtracker&hashedid=n%2fa

If you are nervous about erasing your only copy of everything, your boot disk, you should be :)

I wouldn't immediately delete your source boot disk, I would boot on the USB Flash recovery drive, using another 2.5" disk to test it. Restore to it, and make sure the Backtracker created recovery flash drive works.

Don't forget, the 2nd bay drive needs to be removed, only have 1 drive in the machine when you restore, as the restore program deletes all the partitions on both internal drives it finds, and then recreates the out of the box config.

Have fun :)

Darnassus
09-17-2014, 09:36 AM
Well.. why the updates? What changed since 3.0.3?

It also seems I have Asus Backtrack 2.0.0 on my PC already. ( It has so many spelling mistakes in it, lol. )

Also, I overheard that some USB 3.0's aren't compatible with using for backup? ( are you kidding me )

I'm using this, http://www.sandisk.com.au/products/usb/drives/extreme/

I really wish I knew WHY everything with these compys was so 'dangerous'. Incompatible this, wrong version that..

What am I to do? :'c

This isn't fun, hmscott! x'{

hmscott
09-17-2014, 11:51 AM
Well.. why the updates? What changed since 3.0.3?
It also seems I have Asus Backtrack 2.0.0 on my PC already. ( It has so many spelling mistakes in it, lol. )
Also, I overheard that some USB 3.0's aren't compatible with using for backup? ( are you kidding me )
I'm using this, http://www.sandisk.com.au/products/usb/drives/extreme/
I really wish I knew WHY everything with these compys was so 'dangerous'. Incompatible this, wrong version that..
What am I to do? :'c
This isn't fun, hmscott! x'{

Darnassus, there aren't many fun gaming qualities to backups or restores :)

The JX is actually the only one with a Asus Backtracker download, it's listed under the Windows 8.1 downloads and it is version 3.0.7. There are no downloads for Backtracker under the JW/JH support area under Windows 8 or 8.1.

I upgraded to the 3.0.3 and did my first Backtracker Backup with it, and then the 3.0.7 version, but I don't think I ever used the 2.x series. I would try the 3.0.7 version first if you have updated to Windows 8.1. If you are still running Windows 8.0 then try the 3.0.3 version.

For some reason, there are lots of people that have USB 3.0 issues with all but 1 of their USB ports. You might want to run a CrystalDiskMark against the USB 3.0 flash drive on each of the 4 USB ports, and find out which one is the fastest, and use that port to create the Asus Backtracker flash recovery drive - if all ports run fast then it doesn't matter. I think I used the left front port for both my Asus Backtracker flash recovery creations, but all my ports run fast.

I had a new SSD to use for testing, it was the one I was migrating to anyway, so I didn't endanger my original boot drive. It worked great.

The incompatible flash drives seem to fail both on the creation and the restore, but I haven't had one fail so I can only relay what others have reported. That is why it is so important to immediately test the backup to make sure it worked, and successfully restores completely - the failures reported vary, but if it completes the restore and boots, it has worked.

That is why it is the first thing I suggest people to do out of the box, to create and test the Backtracker flash recovery creation and restore. Get it out the way, and you can then just do the fun stuff - but have the restore capability in case something goes wrong.

What are you restoring to for your test restore?

Darnassus
09-17-2014, 12:08 PM
Well that's the problem I guess. I don't have a spare disc to restore to. I'll have to make a backup of my 1TB drive and wipe it, and test the restore on that, I guess. Does it make any difference if I try the restore on an SSD or HDD?

I'll try 3.0.7..

hmscott
09-17-2014, 12:12 PM
Well that's the problem I guess. I don't have a spare disc to restore to. I'll have to make a backup of my 1TB drive and wipe it, and test the restore on that, I guess. Does it make any difference if I try the restore on an SSD or HDD?
I'll try 3.0.7..

Darnassus, using the 2nd bay drive is a great option :)

HDD, or SSD, or SSHD - you can swap the 2nd bay drive into the boot drive slot, and leave out your boot drive during the restore.

Good luck :)

Darnassus
09-17-2014, 05:41 PM
Alright so... just to make this clear. What SHOULD happen is... if I install what ever goes onto my BackTracker onto my 16GB USB... when I take out my main OS drive, then shove in my clean one.. and put what is on the USB into the disc.. if it DOES go into the disc, I'll be able to BOOT, right? Actually go to the Desktop and use Win8 (stock from when I bought it, obviously) normally?

But if this DOESN'T work.. then I can safely assume my BackTracker doesn't work.. correct?

hmscott
09-17-2014, 05:47 PM
Alright so... just to make this clear. What SHOULD happen is... if I install what ever goes onto my BackTracker onto my 16GB USB... when I take out my main OS drive, then shove in my clean one.. and put what is on the USB into the disc.. if it DOES go into the disc, I'll be able to BOOT, right? Actually go to the Desktop and use Win8 (stock from when I bought it, obviously) normally?

But if this DOESN'T work.. then I can safely assume my BackTracker doesn't work.. correct?

Darnassus, if you boot on the Recovery Flash drive, from Power On - tap ESC until you get the boot option menu and select the USB drive to boot, then follow instructions to restore, and after it completes and reboots, pull the USB drive and it will boot on the restored drive.

You can't assume anything until you know for sure what isn't working, there can be several elements to check before assuming it didn't work. Make sure not to change any boot options in the BIOS.

Darnassus
09-18-2014, 11:34 AM
Darnassus, if you boot on the Recovery Flash drive, from Power On - tap ESC until you get the boot option menu and select the USB drive to boot, then follow instructions to restore, and after it completes and reboots, pull the USB drive and it will boot on the restored drive.

You can't assume anything until you know for sure what isn't working, there can be several elements to check before assuming it didn't work. Make sure not to change any boot options in the BIOS.


Alright, seems my backtracker worked. Used the latest, 3.0.7, and I'm currently running off my HDD. I might just use the unit for an hour or two, see if anything happens..

hmscott
09-18-2014, 11:42 AM
Alright, seems my backtracker worked. Used the latest, 3.0.7, and I'm currently running off my HDD. I might just use the unit for an hour or two, see if anything happens..

Darnassus, ...automatic updates most likely!

That's great news Darnassus, glad to hear the parts all work - and now you have a clean HDD backup to save for later, or in case the SSD restore doesn't go as nicely.

Nice job :)

Darnassus
09-18-2014, 04:53 PM
Darnassus, ...automatic updates most likely!

That's great news Darnassus, glad to hear the parts all work - and now you have a clean HDD backup to save for later, or in case the SSD restore doesn't go as nicely.

Nice job :)

I don't understand what you said back there.

I'm still using the same drives, I just did a clean install. Everything's running properly now.. I'm pretty sure it was upgrading from 8 to 8.1 that made the problems.

Also drivers weren't a problem, got a special little tool for that. Even the Subwoofer and Max Audio is present.

P.S. I always turn off auto-update. Just to make sure I know what goes on the machine first.

hmscott
09-19-2014, 02:32 PM
I don't understand what you said back there.
I'm still using the same drives, I just did a clean install. Everything's running properly now.. I'm pretty sure it was upgrading from 8 to 8.1 that made the problems.
Also drivers weren't a problem, got a special little tool for that. Even the Subwoofer and Max Audio is present.
P.S. I always turn off auto-update. Just to make sure I know what goes on the machine first.

Darnassus, you have a special little tool for getting/applying updates?

There have been plenty of people, including me, that have upgraded to Windows 8.1 and current Windows 8.1 drivers without problems, without anything other than MIcrosoft for the Windows upgrade/updates, and manually downloading the latest drivers from the various Asus support areas.

Sometimes those upgrade tools go a bit far afield to find updates, and sometimes those drivers it finds aren't quite what is needed. IDK, but you shouldn't have had a problem with Windows 8.1 on a JX.

Now that you have a way to recover back to out of the box Windows 8.0, you could do Microsoft updates to Windows 8.0 till the 8.1 upgrade shows up in the Microsoft Store, upgrade to Windows 8.1, and then continue on with Windows 8.1 updates, then finish up with installing the latest drivers for Windows 8.1.

Microsoft has fixed the August updates it messed up, but there is 1 new update to avoid - KB2894006 - not catastrophic - you get an error about a missing MFC app at start up - but you can avoid it by not do that "optional" update.

Here is the list of places I look for updates for my G750JH; the best way to get a stable fully functioning G750/G751 is to update all the drivers / apps to the latest Windows 8.1 release.

The G750JW/JX/JH/JM/JS/JZ download areas haven't had new updates for a while, BIOS updates still happen in your model's support area, so check there from time to time.

The G750/G751/551/500/etc share the same basic hardware components; check support download areas for new hardware for newer drivers.

Asus maintains central support areas for hardware component features common to all products, those areas usually have the latest drivers after new hardware releases, sometimes there is a lag before the newer drivers show up there, so still to new product releases support downloads for the latest drivers.

Asus G751 Support / Download areas - Asus hasn't updated all the versions of these support areas, this link discusses the 3 locations were started independantly and not sync'd/updated through to the latest driver releases - check them all to be sure.
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?55572-Asus-G751-Support-Download-areas&p=461698&viewfull=1#post461698

This G751JM/JT/JY/JL download area has the latest drivers of all the G750/G751 support download areas:

G751 Support / Download Areas - Newest - has all 4 G751 models
http://www.asus.com/Search/?SearchKey=g751

G750 Support / Download Areas - Newest - has the G750JY/JZ/JS/JM/JH models
http://www.asus.com/Search/?SearchKey=g750

G750JX - new support location, updates?
http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/ASUS_ROG_G750JX/

G750JW - new support location, updates?
http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/ASUS_ROG_G750JW/

Here are the latest Asus posted VGA drivers currently 347.25 ; it's better to get the latest from Nvidia - 347.88

Asus doesn't modify the drivers, they release the identical driver packages as Nvidia releases.
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=VGA&p=3&s=111

Notebook Audio drivers - Realtek 7443 - current confirmed to work on G751/G750, some G750 users say 7335 works best for them, if you find a newer release version that works, please let us all know which version and G750/G751 model it works on.
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Audio&os=30

Notebook Card Reader (realtek) G750 / G751(?)
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Card+reader&os=30

Notebook Bluetooth drivers
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Bluetooth&p=3&ft=27&os=30

Notebook WLAN drivers (no Intel)
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=WLAN&os=3

Notebook LAN drivers
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&s=589&m=LAN&os=&hashedid=n%2fa

KBFilter driver
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=KBFilter&hashedid=n%2fa

Asus Backtracker for Windows 8.1 download
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=Backtracker&hashedid=n%2fa

Asus Backtracker FAQ
http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1008640/

Asus SmartGesture
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ASUS+Smart+Gesture&hashedid=n%2fa

Asus Touchpad
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Touchpad&os=30

Asus ATK Package
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ATK%20Package&hashedid=n/a

Asus GPU Tweak for Graphics Cards, currently at release 2.7.9.0 for the G750JW/JX/JH and G751JT/JY
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=9&m=ASUS%20GPU%20Tweak%20for%20Graphics%20cards&hashedid=n/a

Asus GPU Tweak for Laptops, currently at release v1.0.9 for the G750JS/JM/JZ and other new ROG laptops with Optimus
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ASUS+GPU+Tweak+for+Laptops&hashedid=n%2fa

Here are the Asus posted VGA drivers, it's better to get the latest from Nvidia - currently 347.88
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=VGA&p=3&s=111

Nvidia Drivers direct from Nvidia
http://www.geforce.com/drivers

Asus stopped updating their Intel INFUpdate support area, so go directly to Intel to get the latest chipset INF - currently 10.0.26
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/20775/Intel-Chipset-Device-Software-INF-Update-Utility-

For the G750JH/JZ RAID and G751JY PCIE SSD, or if you have implemented RAID, the latest SetupRST.exe is currently 13.6.0.1002
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&keyword=Intel+Rapid+Storage+Technology+%28Intel+RS T%29+RAID+Driver

Have fun :)

GottiBoi55
09-20-2014, 06:07 PM
Asus Backtracker 3.0.7 worked for me, I will confirm. (TESTED)

I installed the 3.0.7 version on my JZ, then I used the SanDisk 16GB Ultra 3.0 USB Flash Drive to setup the Recovery backup image.
I just tested the Asus Backtracker 3.0.7, and everything worked as it should, without a problem.
After the recovery finished, it was like the "first time setup", it worked perfectly without error.

Good luck my fellow ROGer, and have fun!
Gamers Rule!!!!

Darnassus
09-20-2014, 08:16 PM
Darnassus, you have a special little tool for getting/applying updates?

There have been plenty of people, including me, that have upgraded to Windows 8.1 and current Windows 8.1 drivers without problems, without anything other than MIcrosoft for the Windows upgrade/updates, and manually downloading the latest drivers from the various Asus support areas.

Sometimes those upgrade tools go a bit far afield to find updates, and sometimes those drivers it finds aren't quite what is needed. IDK, but you shouldn't have had a problem with Windows 8.1 on a JX.

Now that you have a way to recover back to out of the box Windows 8.0, you could do Microsoft updates to Windows 8.0 till the 8.1 upgrade shows up in the Microsoft Store, upgrade to Windows 8.1, and then continue on with Windows 8.1 updates, then finish up with installing the latest drivers for Windows 8.1.

Microsoft has fixed the August updates it messed up, but there is 1 new update to avoid - KB2894006 - not catastrophic - you get an error about a missing MFC app at start up - but you can avoid it by not do that "optional" update.

Here is the list of Asus, Nvidia, Intel support / download areas.

G750 support areas - The JM download area has the latest of all the G750, with JS/JZ next.
The G750JW/JX/JH download areas are out of date:
http://support.asus.com/Search.aspx?SLanguage=en&keyword=g750&ps=10&pn=1

Here is the latest Notebook Audio - for G750 => Realtek driver package Version V6.0.1.7283
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Audio&os=30

Here are the latest Notebook Bluetooth drivers
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Bluetooth&p=3&ft=27&os=30

Here are the latest Notebook WLAN drivers (no Intel)
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=WLAN&os=3

Here are the latest Notebook LAN drivers
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&s=589&m=LAN&os=&hashedid=n%2fa

Here is the latest KBFilter driver
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=KBFilter&hashedid=n%2fa

Here is the latest Asus Backtracker for Windows 8.1
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=Backtracker&hashedid=n%2fa

Notebook Asus SmartGesture
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ASUS+Smart+Gesture&hashedid=n%2fa

Notebook ATK Package
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ATK%20Package&hashedid=n/a

Asus GPU Tweak for Graphics Cards, currently at release 2.6.7.0 for the G750JW/JX/JH
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=9&m=ASUS%20GPU%20Tweak%20for%20Graphics%20cards&hashedid=n/a

Asus GPU Tweak for Laptops, currently at release v1.0.9 for the G750JS/JM/JZ
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ASUS+GPU+Tweak+for+Laptops&hashedid=n%2fa

Here are the Asus posted VGA drivers, it's better to get the latest from Nvidia - currently 344.11, except for the JM owners you probably want to keep using 332.60 to avoid random crashes - as reported by a lot of people.
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=VGA&p=3&s=111[/url111

Nvidia Drivers direct from Nvidia
http://www.geforce.com/drivers

Asus stopped updating their Intel INFUpdate support area, so go directly to Intel to get the latest - currently 10.0.13
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&FamilyId=42&ProductID=816&ProdId=816

Have fun :)

No Chipset? :'x

hmscott
09-21-2014, 01:42 AM
No Chipset? :'x

It's the last one in the list you quoted :)

Asus stopped updating their Intel INFUpdate support area, so go directly to Intel to get the latest - currently 10.0.13
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&FamilyId=42&ProductID=816&ProdId=816