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meandrak
09-25-2014, 03:25 PM
Hey guys,
I recently bought a Kingston V300 240GB SSD and installed it inside my ROG G750JW laptop alongside my 1TB HDD. I basically want to use this new SSD as my OS drive and run applications and games off of it, and then just use the HDD as a data drive. I currently have Win8.1 and I'm only using about 150 GB on the current HDD.

I've tried cloning all individual partitions from my current HDD to the SSD using EaseUSTool, removing the old HDD, but it won't boot the new SSD--and when I look in Windows Disk Management i notice "Boot" isn't in the description of the SSD OS partition. When I do attempt the SSD boot, I go to a blue screen with an error that gives some options to repair the drive. I'm assuming I need to run a flash drive recovery image (not sure if it's a windows recovery drive or the asus recovery it's looking for here). I set up the SSD as GPT. Also tried cloning the entire HDD to SSD with EaseUSTool, but it says insufficient space.

What is the easiest way to get this SSD to become my new boot drive with Win8 or Win8.1 (the key I own from the factory laptop, don't want to purchase a new windows copy) as the OS? I've read tons of threads and I simply cannot get this to work by cloning alone. I'm open to cloning, reinstalling windows, or even the recovery onto the SSD. I ultimately prefer a clean install, but as you all know, the G750 comes with a recovery partition on the HDD with NO Windows Installation disks or Recovery disks.

Need some proven, full-proof steps :)

Thanks in advance!

Prostar Computer
09-25-2014, 05:20 PM
Here (http://lifehacker.com/5837543/how-to-migrate-to-a-solid-state-drive-without-reinstalling-windows) is a guide outlining how to migrate to an SSD from an HDD, but by and large it's what you've already mentioned doing it seems.

Alternatively, you can run the Asus recovery utility and apply it to the SSD, or you can create an image of the hard drive, back it up, and then try to copy that image to the SSD from the backup (you don't need EaseUSTools for this either as Windows will allow you to create an image).

hmscott
09-25-2014, 05:39 PM
Hey guys,
I recently bought a Kingston V300 240GB SSD and installed it inside my ROG G750JW laptop alongside my 1TB HDD. I basically want to use this new SSD as my OS drive and run applications and games off of it, and then just use the HDD as a data drive. I currently have Win8.1 and I'm only using about 150 GB on the current HDD.

I've tried cloning all individual partitions from my current HDD to the SSD using EaseUSTool, removing the old HDD, but it won't boot the new SSD--and when I look in Windows Disk Management i notice "Boot" isn't in the description of the SSD OS partition. When I do attempt the SSD boot, I go to a blue screen with an error that gives some options to repair the drive. I'm assuming I need to run a flash drive recovery image (not sure if it's a windows recovery drive or the asus recovery it's looking for here). I set up the SSD as GPT. Also tried cloning the entire HDD to SSD with EaseUSTool, but it says insufficient space.

What is the easiest way to get this SSD to become my new boot drive with Win8 or Win8.1 (the key I own from the factory laptop, don't want to purchase a new windows copy) as the OS? I've read tons of threads and I simply cannot get this to work by cloning alone. I'm open to cloning, reinstalling windows, or even the recovery onto the SSD. I ultimately prefer a clean install, but as you all know, the G750 comes with a recovery partition on the HDD with NO Windows Installation disks or Recovery disks.

Need some proven, full-proof steps :)

Thanks in advance!

meandrak, you had the right idea trying to clone the drive, it might be the software is the issue.

There are two methods I have used to set up a new SSD on my G750JW/JX/JH

First is the easiest, if you don't have a lot installed already, skip cloning and use Asus Backtracker to create a USB 3.0 Flask recovery drive. Then boot on that USB 3.0 flash recovery drive to restore to the new SSD - it will set up the SSD just like your out of the box configuration. It's a new clean start.

The other method is to clone, as you tried, but the software Macrium Reflect Free worked great for me several times for cloning, and many times for backups. It will let you select the partitions to clone from the old drive, and resize them on the new destination drive - worked great going from a 750GB/1TB HDD to a 512GB SSD.

Macrium Reflect Free
http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

Be sure and do the Asus Backtracker USB 3.0 16GB backup either way, it is the only recovery media available - and if you blow away the recovery partition(s) on the boot drive you will not be able to order recovery media from Asus, you would need to RMA the laptop to get the OS reloaded.

Please come back and let us know how it works out :)

meandrak
09-26-2014, 12:30 AM
@hmscott, success! I went out and bought a USB 3.0 16GB Flash drive per your recommendation and flashed the ASUS Backtracker Recovery image to it. Then, I turned off the computer, took out the old HDD, booted the computer with the new SSD. An error message comes up saying your PC needs repair...so you choose to boot into BIOS and select the flash drive to manually boot into. It'll then begin the factory installation process. Typing to you now from the SSD new install :D

Bad news is, during the ASUS Backtracker recovery flash, I had my 1TB External HDD plugged in. EVEN THOUGH I SELECTED THE 16GB FLASH DRIVE, the Backtracker software overwrote my 1TB External HDD! Really bad news there, and pretty upset about it. I'm going to have to undergo some sort of data recovery to try and get as much as I can back. Using Ontrack EasyRecovery free trial right now to scan the drive and see if anything is recoverable. I will most likely have to send this thing off and have it professionally done.

Other good news is, the old HDD is OK. I could not see it at first, so I went back into the BIOS after the SSD installation of the recovery image, and re-selected Enable SEcure boot and disable the CSM.

Other than those pitfalls, it was a good install! I truly appreciate your help.

Cheers,
Matt

hmscott
09-26-2014, 04:20 AM
@hmscott, success! I went out and bought a USB 3.0 16GB Flash drive per your recommendation and flashed the ASUS Backtracker Recovery image to it. Then, I turned off the computer, took out the old HDD, booted the computer with the new SSD. An error message comes up saying your PC needs repair...so you choose to boot into BIOS and select the flash drive to manually boot into. It'll then begin the factory installation process. Typing to you now from the SSD new install :D

Bad news is, during the ASUS Backtracker recovery flash, I had my 1TB External HDD plugged in. EVEN THOUGH I SELECTED THE 16GB FLASH DRIVE, the Backtracker software overwrote my 1TB External HDD! Really bad news there, and pretty upset about it. I'm going to have to undergo some sort of data recovery to try and get as much as I can back. Using Ontrack EasyRecovery free trial right now to scan the drive and see if anything is recoverable. I will most likely have to send this thing off and have it professionally done.

Other good news is, the old HDD is OK. I could not see it at first, so I went back into the BIOS after the SSD installation of the recovery image, and re-selected Enable SEcure boot and disable the CSM.

Other than those pitfalls, it was a good install! I truly appreciate your help.

Cheers,
Matt

Matt, thanks for the heads up about the recovery blowing away the external attached drive - I never tried with one attached so I didn't notice that. That's a bit extreme - I know that internal drives are reformatted, but to reformat an external drive is a bit much. I will put that note into my recommendations from now on, YIPE!!

I haven't had this happen in a while, and can't remember what I used to recover from an accidental format of a partition, but if you google it a number of tools come up. I have heard of these guys, and it is free, so maybe give them a try.

http://www.easeus.com/data-recovery/format-recovery-software/free-undo-disk-quick-format.htm
http://www.easeus.com/data-recovery/partition-recovery-software/ntfs-partition-file-recovery-freeware.htm

If you have another 1TB drive, and Linux/UNIX, you could do a raw dd from 1 drive to another, or from the source drive to a file for backup, so you had more than 1 chance to recover the drive.

Don't forget to do all the Windows 8.0 updates until you get the option in the Microsoft Store for Windows 8.1 upgrade, do all the Windows 8.1 updates, and update all the hardware drivers to latest Windows 8.1 versions. You can look in the Programs and Features control panel list of installed software to find the driver names and current version numbers, compare against the latest in these locations - the newest / highest version number isn't always at the top of the list on Asus download sites, read down the list a bit to make sure you have the latest by version number.

Here is the list of places I look for updates for my G750JH; the best way to get a stable fully functioning G750/G751 is to update all the drivers / apps to the latest Windows 8.1 release.

The G750JW/JX/JH/JM/JS/JZ download areas haven't had new updates for a while, BIOS updates still happen in your model's support area, so check there from time to time.

The G750/G751/551/500/etc share the same basic hardware components; check support download areas for new hardware for newer drivers.

Asus maintains central support areas for hardware component features common to all products, those areas usually have the latest drivers after new hardware releases, sometimes there is a lag before the newer drivers show up there, so still to new product releases support downloads for the latest drivers.

Asus G751 Support / Download areas - Asus hasn't updated all the versions of these support areas, this link discusses the 3 locations were started independantly and not sync'd/updated through to the latest driver releases - check them all to be sure.
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?55572-Asus-G751-Support-Download-areas&p=461698&viewfull=1#post461698

This G751JM/JT/JY/JL download area has the latest drivers of all the G750/G751 support download areas:

G751 Support / Download Areas - Newest - has all 4 G751 models
http://www.asus.com/Search/?SearchKey=g751

G750 Support / Download Areas - Newest - has the G750JY/JZ/JS/JM/JH models
http://www.asus.com/Search/?SearchKey=g750

G750JX - new support location, updates?
http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/ASUS_ROG_G750JX/

G750JW - new support location, updates?
http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/ASUS_ROG_G750JW/

Here are the latest Asus posted VGA drivers currently 347.25 ; it's better to get the latest from Nvidia - 347.88

Asus doesn't modify the drivers, they release the identical driver packages as Nvidia releases.
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=VGA&p=3&s=111

Notebook Audio drivers - Realtek 7443 - current confirmed to work on G751/G750, some G750 users say 7335 works best for them, if you find a newer release version that works, please let us all know which version and G750/G751 model it works on.
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Audio&os=30

Notebook Card Reader (realtek) G750 / G751(?)
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Card+reader&os=30

Notebook Bluetooth drivers
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Bluetooth&p=3&ft=27&os=30

Notebook WLAN drivers (no Intel)
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=WLAN&os=3

Notebook LAN drivers
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&s=589&m=LAN&os=&hashedid=n%2fa

KBFilter driver
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=KBFilter&hashedid=n%2fa

Asus Backtracker for Windows 8.1 download
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=Backtracker&hashedid=n%2fa

Asus Backtracker FAQ
http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1008640/

Asus SmartGesture
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ASUS+Smart+Gesture&hashedid=n%2fa

Asus Touchpad
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Touchpad&os=30

Asus ATK Package
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ATK%20Package&hashedid=n/a

Asus GPU Tweak for Graphics Cards, currently at release 2.7.9.0 for the G750JW/JX/JH and G751JT/JY
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=9&m=ASUS%20GPU%20Tweak%20for%20Graphics%20cards&hashedid=n/a

Asus GPU Tweak for Laptops, currently at release v1.0.9 for the G750JS/JM/JZ and other new ROG laptops with Optimus
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=ASUS+GPU+Tweak+for+Laptops&hashedid=n%2fa

Here are the Asus posted VGA drivers, it's better to get the latest from Nvidia - currently 347.88
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=VGA&p=3&s=111

Nvidia Drivers direct from Nvidia
http://www.geforce.com/drivers

Asus stopped updating their Intel INFUpdate support area, so go directly to Intel to get the latest chipset INF - currently 10.0.26
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/20775/Intel-Chipset-Device-Software-INF-Update-Utility-

For the G750JH/JZ RAID and G751JY PCIE SSD, or if you have implemented RAID, the latest SetupRST.exe is currently 13.6.0.1002
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&keyword=Intel+Rapid+Storage+Technology+%28Intel+RS T%29+RAID+Driver

Have fun :)

meandrak
09-26-2014, 01:04 PM
@hmscott,

Thank you again for a great post! I'm in the process of upgrading up to Win8.1 from factory. Then, plan to fix the drivers (especially the audio drive because of the known subwoofer issue!). After all that is said and done, I'll be working to recover my External HDD onto my internal HDD, then move it back to the External once I'm satisfied with the recovery---will look into EaseUS for their recovery tool (I like their interfaces). Moral of the story here is, always unplug all other external flash and HDD devices before flashing a recovery to a thumbdrive :)

Are the JM drivers compatible with JW, etc?

-Matt

hmscott
09-28-2014, 12:27 PM
@hmscott,

Thank you again for a great post! I'm in the process of upgrading up to Win8.1 from factory. Then, plan to fix the drivers (especially the audio drive because of the known subwoofer issue!). After all that is said and done, I'll be working to recover my External HDD onto my internal HDD, then move it back to the External once I'm satisfied with the recovery---will look into EaseUS for their recovery tool (I like their interfaces). Moral of the story here is, always unplug all other external flash and HDD devices before flashing a recovery to a thumbdrive :)

Are the JM drivers compatible with JW, etc?

-Matt

meandrak, yes the base hardware is the same for the various models of G750, and you are looking for the latest Windows 8.1 version. If you install it under Windows 8.0 you will need to reinstall after updating to Windows 8.1 - some you won't but some install different components on WIndows 8.1 than 8.0.

The subwoofer is a source material issue. I found that by running my subwoofer level at 70% it doesn't distort at higher volume levels, but you may need to adjust for less/more sub level for your source material - just like a regular stereo you have to equalize the audio to fit the speakers.

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Please come back and let us know how it works out :)

meandrak
09-29-2014, 03:07 PM
@hmscott,

After the upgrade to Win8.1, looks like Maxx Audio got installed somehow and fixed the subwoofer issue I experienced during Win8.0. I remember having a doozy of a time trying to fix that in the past, but gladly not a big deal this time.

Only outstanding issue is that something is changing my color management scheme upon loading Windows (both my laptop and my second monitor)...turning the color scheme to warmer colors about a second or two after loading the desktop. Not sure what is causing this. Nvidia color settings are on default, Windows Color Management profiles are all on default. Have fiddled with some settings in Windows Color Mgmt and it'll fix it temporarily, but something will always change the color scheme at reboot. Kind of a stumper for me.

Thank you for all of your help.

-Matt

hmscott
09-29-2014, 06:38 PM
@hmscott,

After the upgrade to Win8.1, looks like Maxx Audio got installed somehow and fixed the subwoofer issue I experienced during Win8.0. I remember having a doozy of a time trying to fix that in the past, but gladly not a big deal this time.

Only outstanding issue is that something is changing my color management scheme upon loading Windows (both my laptop and my second monitor)...turning the color scheme to warmer colors about a second or two after loading the desktop. Not sure what is causing this. Nvidia color settings are on default, Windows Color Management profiles are all on default. Have fiddled with some settings in Windows Color Mgmt and it'll fix it temporarily, but something will always change the color scheme at reboot. Kind of a stumper for me.
Thank you for all of your help.
-Matt

meandrak, did you install Asus Splendid? Uninstall it and reboot :)

What screen do you have? Chi Mei or AUO? There are ICC color profiles available in this forum that help color balance - it changes at startup like you see, but corrected in an accurate way, not a overly corrected way like Asus Splendid seems to add beyond the ICC profiles it installs.

meandrak
09-29-2014, 11:51 PM
@hmscott,

That was it, perfect!--I removed ASUS Splendid, rebooted, and colors are back to being normal and vibrant. Thanks so much for your help! Now, I've got a checklist together for the next time I do this, hah.

Cheers,
Matt

hmscott
10-03-2014, 09:11 PM
@hmscott,
That was it, perfect!--I removed ASUS Splendid, rebooted, and colors are back to being normal and vibrant. Thanks so much for your help! Now, I've got a checklist together for the next time I do this, hah.
Cheers,
Matt

meandrak, glad that fixed the problem for you :)

You can also improve the color balance by using the individualized ICC profile for your laptop model and screen.

You can follow this post to use the ICC profiles provided with Splendid - without the other cruft - just find out which screen you have - AUO or ChiMei and then pick the profile that matches. The last 4 characters in the hardware ID of the screen and the icc profile file are the match you are looking for; and it works the same for an AUO or Chi Mei screen.

ICC for AUO219D
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?51699-ICC-for-AUO219D&p=438015&viewfull=1#post438015

You can find the screen hardware ID number with several hardware inventory programs, like hwinfo64

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hwinfo64 Download - I use the current 64 bit Beta, small text under download locations
http://www.hwinfo.com/download.php

Let us know how that works :)