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02-04-2015, 01:37 AM
News here: http://rog.asus.com/399392015/g-series-gaming-laptops/g501-the-coolest-quietest-thin-light-15-inch-gaming-laptop-with-4k-pcie-ssd/

Travoli
02-04-2015, 02:17 AM
Thank you Marshall. When might specs be available? And when might they ship? 13 months since GX500 announcement! I'm sure you'd rather be reading us talk about how awesome these machines are instead of answering "when, where, how much" questions.

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02-04-2015, 07:16 AM
Thank you Marshall. When might specs be available? And when might they ship? 13 months since GX500 announcement! I'm sure you'd rather be reading us talk about how awesome these machines are instead of answering "when, where, how much" questions.

Specs release and media review date are tied to Nvidia NDA on upcoming 900 series GPU, which is currently ~March time. Shipping date should be around this time, although as usual some regions will follow others; US is usually first tier though ;) Certainly in Q2 - we're testing tidying up an almost finished product internally now.

Arulmani
02-04-2015, 01:54 PM
Is it going to be based on Intel's Broadwell ?!! Cant wait to see the full specs !!!!!

esfomeado
02-04-2015, 04:14 PM
My spec supposition:
Intel® Core™ i7-4720HQ
Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M

I really like option to buy with FHD instead of UHD and I'm looking forward to see if this is really true:
"It’s now the coolest and quietest thin and light gaming notebook on the market!"

BigDRim
02-04-2015, 04:24 PM
Or a 965m? I thought it was released but i haven't seen any laptop with it yet.

Killar
02-04-2015, 07:37 PM
Specs release and media review date are tied to Nvidia NDA on upcoming 900 series GPU, which is currently ~March time. Shipping date should be around this time, although as usual some regions will follow others; US is usually first tier though ;) Certainly in Q2 - we're testing tidying up an almost finished product internally now.

Upcoming 900 series? I thought i had seen laptops all over the place with 970s and 980s already. Been waiting for this laptop a while now.

CumBoat420
02-04-2015, 08:05 PM
Soooooooo could you maybe just computer-whisper a price point? or could you confirm or deny secretly to any of my guesses: 1700, 1800, 2000? I'm just going to be gettin an asus super soon, but I'm trying to hold on for the G501 if it's not too expensive. It looks like a beast.

NitroX
02-04-2015, 08:19 PM
I'm quite curious about how this small gaming laptop will perform. I don't want to ruin the image of it but considering that ASUS made such a bad job with the cooling on the G751 which is a freaking monster compared to this I do wonder how could they be serious about this thin laptop actually put up with hardware like the i7-4710 or even i7-4720 which will build even more heat.

I don't quite believe this whole marketing thing because they did the same thing with the G751&G551 and look at them now. " This upgraded design delivers exceptional thermal efficiency to ensure system stability, keeping CPU and GPU temperatures low even under overclocking conditions." they said.. Yeah I could see that. It went to 90C in mid winter at 20C in the room with no OC -_-... (source: http://www.asus.com/News/jZ3tJOGRCTO4bdCS)

So, if ASUS would really be able to make this tiny gaming laptop be cooler than the G751 then there is something very wrong with their engineering team. I like the whole idead of a small form factor gaming laptop, but look at MSI/Gigabyte/Schenker, they all have lightweight gaming laptops which have problems with high temps. I don't really have such high hopes from ASUS to break the ice with a much cooler lightweight gaming laptop.

Sorry for my pessimism Marshall but I think you know even better how these things with product image works. Especially before they release a new product.

sk3tch
02-04-2015, 08:25 PM
The G751 cooling system is incredible. 90C is well within the thermal limits of the processor - and all heat is exhausted out of the back and there are no thermal issues from the bottom - I.E. you can actually put this laptop on your lap during intense gaming/etc.

Name another laptop with similar specs that is better designed cooling-wise?

NitroX
02-04-2015, 09:35 PM
It's not that incredible. Not for the CPU which was supposed to be more power efficient than Ivy bridge thus also meaning lower temps. I'm not having any issues with the GPU though. The damn cooling is so good that it only reaches 80C when OC'ed at +135Mhz and 5700Mhz Memory. I dunno, maybe it's because I was used to see maximum temps of 80C on my older G75VW. I was not expecting the CPU to run hotter on this machine considering that the CPU should have been more power efficient and it only has 200Mhz boost difference compared to the i7-3610QM.
And this is not like a personal problem. There are people with lower temps and people with higher temps for the exact same models. Some actually have throttle issues with it. Now, that doesn't sound like an incredible cooling to me. I'm currently running games on an Undervolted CPU and with lower clocks (3000Mhz for 4x cores) just to keep the temps at a 75-80 average. I'm just thinking on long term conditions, when summer will come and also the dust will build up.


Oh well, I'll just have to wait and see what happens. As someone already said here on the forums: fk it, let it burn! We have the warranty for that :).

I'm sorry for the off-topic Marshall! Seriously looking forward to see this new gaming laptop, although I don't have too big expectations from it.

Jurge92
02-04-2015, 09:52 PM
Is it going to be based on Intel's Broadwell ?!! Cant wait to see the full specs !!!!!

Yeah I'm wondering about this too. Broadwell is pretty much the new standard for laptops. Combine it with the 900-series from Nvidia, and we'll have the perfect balance between power and battery-life.

sk3tch
02-04-2015, 10:39 PM
It's not that incredible. Not for the CPU which was supposed to be more power efficient than Ivy bridge thus also meaning lower temps. I'm not having any issues with the GPU though. The damn cooling is so good that it only reaches 80C when OC'ed at +135Mhz and 5700Mhz Memory. I dunno, maybe it's because I was used to see maximum temps of 80C on my older G75VW. I was not expecting the CPU to run hotter on this machine considering that the CPU should have been more power efficient and it only has 200Mhz boost difference compared to the i7-3610QM.
And this is not like a personal problem. There are people with lower temps and people with higher temps for the exact same models. Some actually have throttle issues with it. Now, that doesn't sound like an incredible cooling to me. I'm currently running games on an Undervolted CPU and with lower clocks (3000Mhz for 4x cores) just to keep the temps at a 75-80 average. I'm just thinking on long term conditions, when summer will come and also the dust will build up.


Oh well, I'll just have to wait and see what happens. As someone already said here on the forums: fk it, let it burn! We have the warranty for that :).

I'm sorry for the off-topic Marshall! Seriously looking forward to see this new gaming laptop, although I don't have too big expectations from it.

That's all summed up with one thing: Haswell.

You called out ASUS' engineering as a reason for skepticism for this laptop - so it's on-topic. ASUS' engineering isn't at fault - as the system works extremely well. Haswell is just a very hot CPU. Try undervolting your CPU by -50 mV (Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset) if you're so worried about the temps that you're seeing that are well within TJMax.

Metalogic
02-05-2015, 12:22 AM
News here: http://rog.asus.com/399392015/g-series-gaming-laptops/g501-the-coolest-quietest-thin-light-15-inch-gaming-laptop-with-4k-pcie-ssd/

Oh my, that's gorgeous!

Just hope it's done right - Decent screen, no serious cooling issues and a good GPU (not a 980m, but a 970m perhaps, or at least a 965m)

@Marshal - will this be available to buy in the United Kingdom on release?

Metalogic
02-05-2015, 08:08 AM
I hope they offer the 1080p screen model (which I would prefer - lighter, draws less power, avoids Windows scaling issues, and has a matte screen) with 16Gb RAM and a 512Gb SSD, why do some manufacturers assume that just because you don't want a 4K touch screen you want to nerf the memory and storage too?

Metalogic
02-05-2015, 08:15 AM
Or a 965m? I thought it was released but i haven't seen any laptop with it yet.

The 965M is better than the 960M, right?

BigDRim
02-05-2015, 12:27 PM
The 965M is better than the 960M, right?

We don't know as 960m is not out. But according the name, it should be.

kelsett
02-05-2015, 01:25 PM
*drooling*

Metalogic
02-05-2015, 04:39 PM
Soooooooo could you maybe just computer-whisper a price point? or could you confirm or deny secretly to any of my guesses: 1700, 1800, 2000? I'm just going to be gettin an asus super soon, but I'm trying to hold on for the G501 if it's not too expensive. It looks like a beast.

I suspect, if the price of the NX500 is anything to go buy, that it'll be around that price range in UK pounds sterling I.e. US dollar price more than this...

generalwyt
02-05-2015, 06:22 PM
I sincerely don't hope it is a 965m, since it is anywhere from 35% to 40% slower than the 970m according to notebookcheck.
And their direct competitor Razer blade got an upgrade to the 970m. So it should be also possible for the Asus to handle this.

Vicerox
02-05-2015, 06:35 PM
The G56, G551, GX500 and now this (G501) are not TRUE successors of the G55VW.

Still waiting for the 15 inch IPS display version of the G751, one which supports the 256GB SSD + HD + 970M/980M + the awesome ROG touch pad and copper cooling thermal system.

esfomeado
02-05-2015, 07:24 PM
Nvidia already anounced the GTX 980/970M so it's gonna be something like a 965M or even a 960M.
Price i would say 2200 for the FHD version and 2500 for the 4k version or even more.

Killar
02-05-2015, 07:25 PM
Soooooooo could you maybe just computer-whisper a price point? or could you confirm or deny secretly to any of my guesses: 1700, 1800, 2000? I'm just going to be gettin an asus super soon, but I'm trying to hold on for the G501 if it's not too expensive. It looks like a beast.

I'd say it will be around $2,400 upon release, if you compare it to its current competitors.

kelsett
02-05-2015, 08:35 PM
Nvidia already anounced the GTX 980/970M so it's gonna be something like a 965M or even a 960M.

Who knows, maybe there's a GTX 975M coming... 8)

Metalogic
02-05-2015, 09:12 PM
I'd say it will be around $2,400 upon release, if you compare it to its current competitors.

So about £1,550 in theory, though computer stuff in the UK is usually more expensive due to VAT (a sales tax at 20%), so that would likely be more like £1,800...

Metalogic
02-05-2015, 09:12 PM
I assume this will be available in the UK, right? Unlike the Razer Blade (grrr...)

Totalslaughter
02-06-2015, 06:57 AM
I'm in the market for a thin / light but powerful 15". Not for me though, not a fan of red all over / red backlit keyboard. Make keyboard backlight color changing and ditch the constant red accents and I'd probably be in.

esfomeado
02-06-2015, 11:47 AM
I'm in the market for a thin / light but powerful 15". Not for me though, not a fan of red all over / red backlit keyboard. Make keyboard backlight color changing and ditch the constant red accents and I'd probably be in.

Go for the MSI GS60 2QE.
I have bought and I'm satisfied.
Asus is overpriced in this days. The only downside of the laptop is the screen that isn't a IPS.

Metalogic
02-06-2015, 12:21 PM
Go for the MSI GS60 2QE.
I have bought and I'm satisfied.
Asus is overpriced in this days. The only downside of the laptop is the screen that isn't a IPS.

I thought the screen on the GS60 was meant to be great, am confused...

esfomeado
02-06-2015, 09:34 PM
I thought the screen on the GS60 was meant to be great, am confused...

Don't take me wrong the screen is great but an IPS screen is better than a PLS screen but there isn't that much difference.

vishnunuk
02-07-2015, 03:48 PM
There Was no good competitor to RMBP Till Now. Hop this will Crush RMBP. PCIE SSD + GTX 970 or 980 + i7 + UHD+ + Tin& Light Profile. !! This is RMBP Killer!

BUT PLEASE ADD an Option to Change The lighting (Keyboard back light, Track pad etc.) TO Blue, White, Orange etc. (Multiple color option to choose.) Otherwise it will be Deal Breaker for Designers and Professionals

keestu
02-07-2015, 04:10 PM
Missing the new USB 3.1 (That's the only things missing...Get it right please)

esfomeado
02-07-2015, 07:05 PM
There Was no good competitor to RMBP Till Now. Hop this will Crush RMBP. PCIE SSD + GTX 970 or 980 + i7 + UHD+ + Tin& Light Profile. !! This is RMBP Killer!

BUT PLEASE ADD an Option to Change The lighting (Keyboard back light, Track pad etc.) TO Blue, White, Orange etc. (Multiple color option to choose.) Otherwise it will be Deal Breaker for Designers and Professionals

This laptop will compete against the RMBP but i have some doubts about this laptop crash RMBP. Isn't going to have a gtx 980/970m. Most likely a gtx 960m that should be announced soon. Then you have the price tag it should be almost the same price of RMBP.
About the colors isn't going to happen.


Missing the new USB 3.1 (That's the only things missing...Get it right please)
This would be really nice but again i have my doubts.

danwat1234
02-08-2015, 12:03 PM
Hmm so will it have Intel Broadwell in it? I like the idea of the M.2 (?) PCI Express SSD instead of SATA. What is the model number of the Sunon fans? Amperage, voltage? They sure do have a lot of fins

kelsett
02-08-2015, 01:35 PM
There Was no good competitor to RMBP Till Now. Hop this will Crush RMBP. PCIE SSD + GTX 970 or 980 + i7 + UHD+ + Tin& Light Profile. !! This is RMBP Killer!

This laptop is absolutely NOT menant to be an RMBP killer. It's a gaming laptop with gaming aesthetics and it's also thicker than an RMBP.

There already are plenty of alternatives to the RMBP such as the ASUS NX500, the Dell XPS 15 etc.


BUT PLEASE ADD an Option to Change The lighting (Keyboard back light, Track pad etc.) TO Blue, White, Orange etc. (Multiple color option to choose.) Otherwise it will be Deal Breaker for Designers and Professionals

This isn't relevant... I can tell many people (including myself) don't care about being able to change the keyboard color especially since a different color would look horrible on a red laptop. I can understand you yourself would like that but you cannot say it would be a deal breaker for all designers and professionals.

Metalogic
02-08-2015, 04:39 PM
There Was no good competitor to RMBP Till Now. Hop this will Crush RMBP. PCIE SSD + GTX 970 or 980 + i7 + UHD+ + Tin& Light Profile. !! This is RMBP Killer!

BUT PLEASE ADD an Option to Change The lighting (Keyboard back light, Track pad etc.) TO Blue, White, Orange etc. (Multiple color option to choose.) Otherwise it will be Deal Breaker for Designers and Professionals

I'd settle for a 965M if that would mean temperatures wouldn't get insane

esfomeado
02-09-2015, 11:18 AM
I'd settle for a 965M if that would mean temperatures wouldn't get insane

It's going to be a 960M.

_
02-10-2015, 02:59 AM
Oh my, that's gorgeous!

Just hope it's done right - Decent screen, no serious cooling issues and a good GPU (not a 980m, but a 970m perhaps, or at least a 965m)

@Marshal - will this be available to buy in the United Kingdom on release?

Should be available in UK. Not sure date though sorry.


There Was no good competitor to RMBP Till Now. Hop this will Crush RMBP. PCIE SSD + GTX 970 or 980 + i7 + UHD+ + Tin& Light Profile. !! This is RMBP Killer!

BUT PLEASE ADD an Option to Change The lighting (Keyboard back light, Track pad etc.) TO Blue, White, Orange etc. (Multiple color option to choose.) Otherwise it will be Deal Breaker for Designers and Professionals

Red only sorry.

Syzygy
02-10-2015, 10:51 AM
Will it be available in Australia?

generalwyt
02-10-2015, 03:06 PM
It's going to be a 960M.

If it is going to be 960m, which is very likely. Then it better have better or similiair uptime to the MacBook pro, which is close to 7 hours. :p

esfomeado
02-10-2015, 03:49 PM
If it is going to be 960m, which is very likely. Then it better have better or similiair uptime to the MacBook pro, which is close to 7 hours. :p

Maybe but the main propose of this laptop is gaming and with a 960M you will be very limited and it will be overpriced. Although i would like to know the definition of a gamer laptop from Asus.

BigDRim
02-10-2015, 04:31 PM
HP sells its "Omen" gaming laptop with a 860m, and at a 970m laptop price ^^

esfomeado
02-10-2015, 05:25 PM
HP sells its "Omen" gaming laptop with a 860m, and at a 970m laptop price ^^

And everyone should do that? If you think that it's worth the price go ahead it's your money not mine xD

generalwyt
02-10-2015, 09:00 PM
HP sells its "Omen" gaming laptop with a 860m, and at a 970m laptop price ^^

HP is going insane :P
But on a serious note though. I see the razer blade, macbookpro and msi gs60 as asus G501's direct competitor. Because they are all thin, pretty and powerful notebooks, since the G501 is probably in the same price range and category. If the G501 can't match the razer and gs60 pro 4k, which both have a 970m in graphic power. Then Asus should at least be on par with the Mac at the batterylife and screen department. But the mac still has added brandvalue and osx over Asus. Also seeing as this is a ROG branded laptop I assumed it would be a 970m or at least a 965m. But since those have already been announced already and Asus still haven't given the spec for the graphics card. Then the only logical choice would be the unanounced 960m, cause there still haven't been any rumours about a 975m or anything of the likes.

ocho50711
02-12-2015, 03:11 AM
On another note, am I the only one that is concerned about the audio output being on the right side and in the middle of the body?

Killar
02-12-2015, 08:50 AM
On another note, am I the only one that is concerned about the audio output being on the right side and in the middle of the body?

Pretty sure most of us will be wearing headsets for the most part while using this, if I'm watching a movie I'll probably hook it up to speakers...

Hostilian
02-12-2015, 10:04 AM
Interested in the new G501 but I won't hold my breath - considering how the 'release' of the GX500 went... ;)
Was it overheating, do you think?

Specs and release dates would be very welcome.. :)
Thanks!

esfomeado
02-12-2015, 11:07 AM
HP is going insane :P
But on a serious note though. I see the razer blade, macbookpro and msi gs60 as asus G501's direct competitor. Because they are all thin, pretty and powerful notebooks, since the G501 is probably in the same price range and category.

It won't be in the same price range... 2500+

generalwyt
02-12-2015, 12:31 PM
It won't be in the same price range... 2500+

Well the highest end mbp costs around 2350 EUR. The gs60 pro around 2300 EUR. The Razer isnt avaible in europe if it was it should be around 2400 eur for the 256 gb ssd one. The nx500 costs around 2000 here, so. I assume the g501 will be around 2300 also.

esfomeado
02-12-2015, 01:34 PM
Well the highest end mbp costs around 2350 EUR. The gs60 pro around 2300 EUR. The Razer isnt avaible in europe if it was it should be around 2400 eur for the 256 gb ssd one. The nx500 costs around 2000 here, so. I assume the g501 will be around 2300 also.

The gs60 pro 4k costs where in my country 2000€ and NX500 costs 2500€ but the gs60 is way more powerful so Asus is overpriced at least in my country.

Metalogic
02-12-2015, 01:42 PM
Maybe but the main propose of this laptop is gaming and with a 960M you will be very limited and it will be overpriced. Although i would like to know the definition of a gamer laptop from Asus.

I'm hoping for at least a 965M - that is at least using the same (if cut down) architecture as the 970/980M, but sounds like the 960M is basically a slightly upgraded 860M (same architecture).

Also hoping for reasonable battery life - not as good as a Macbook Pro, but better than MSI GS60 etc.

But most of all, am hoping this will be available in the UK...

Metalogic
02-13-2015, 09:04 AM
The gs60 pro 4k costs where in my country 2000€ and NX500 costs 2500€ but the gs60 is way more powerful so Asus is overpriced at least in my country.

Though the GS60 has terrible battery life and the M2 slot isn't PCI but SATA, also the 4K screen only has 48Ghz refresh rate on the GS60, so the G501 would still have some things in it's favour, even with a 965M GPU, would hopefully be cooler and not as loud under load too...

snaiperist
02-13-2015, 12:59 PM
Guys, G501 will have GeForce GTX 960M and it's coming at the end of March or at the beginning of April :) Here is some more info:
http://laptopmedia.com/news/list-of-all-asus-gaming-laptops-which-are-coming-with-nvidia-geforce-gtx-960m-965m/

KSin
02-13-2015, 03:01 PM
If this is true, then by Asus G501 I refuse. It's not that I waited so long. 960m - it is too weak.
Agree on at least 965M.

PS sorry for my english.

snaiperist
02-13-2015, 03:36 PM
If the performance jump is really 20%, compared to GTX 860M, 960M doesn't look so bad - the price will be crucial :)

dlinfiniti
02-13-2015, 06:35 PM
Guys, G501 will have GeForce GTX 960M and it's coming at the end of March or at the beginning of April :) Here is some more info:
http://laptopmedia.com/news/list-of-all-asus-gaming-laptops-which-are-coming-with-nvidia-geforce-gtx-960m-965m/

I doubt the accuracy of their information, I don't think the G501 has room for a 2.5" HDD, they already announced its gonna have a pcie based SSD already and based on the teardown pics of the nx500, space is at a premium already and a laptop of that size won't be able to accommodate such a drive. As such, I wouldn't be jumping to conclusions about GPU based on that page.

generalwyt
02-13-2015, 07:00 PM
Not sure how trustworthy this is?
http://geizhals.de/eu/asus-rog-g501jw-f1053h-90nb0873-m01230-a1223210.html

dlinfiniti
02-13-2015, 07:13 PM
Not sure how trustworthy this is?
http://geizhals.de/eu/asus-rog-g501jw-f1053h-90nb0873-m01230-a1223210.html

hahahahah not at all
it says it has an optical drive

mohamm2
02-13-2015, 08:35 PM
I need to know if Asus G501 will be released with Intel Skylake Processor with Intel Iris pro graphics and DDR4L SDRAM? I also want to know how much battery life will I get with Asus G501 laptop and will it be same like Mac Book Pro 15 inch?

esfomeado
02-13-2015, 09:57 PM
I need to know if Asus G501 will be released with Intel Skylake Processor with Intel Iris pro graphics and DDR4L SDRAM? I also want to know how much battery life will I get with Asus G501 laptop and will it be same like Mac Book Pro 15 inch?

No to all.

generalwyt
02-15-2015, 10:42 PM
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=LT-209-AS&campaign=pcm/skinflint-couk&campaign=pcm/skinflint-couk&campaign=affiliate/tag

well then...

Metalogic
02-16-2015, 12:20 AM
No to all.

Although battery life is likely to be good for a gaming laptop, with a 96WHrs battery - that's almost double the capacity of the MSI GS60

esfomeado
02-16-2015, 09:30 AM
Although battery life is likely to be good for a gaming laptop, with a 96WHrs battery - that's almost double the capacity of the MSI GS60

That is true but can't event get close to the Mac Book Pro.

Hostilian
02-16-2015, 11:57 AM
Lets hope the NIC spec on that link is incorrect... ;)

Metalogic
02-16-2015, 10:34 PM
That is true but can't event get close to the Mac Book Pro.

But the GPU on a MacBook Pro is pathetic compared to this - a 750M at best

Metalogic
02-16-2015, 10:38 PM
Lets hope the NIC spec on that link is incorrect... ;)

I'm guessing it's for a supplied network dongle, not that I'd ever use one

_
02-17-2015, 07:39 AM
I'm guessing it's for a supplied network dongle, not that I'd ever use one

Yes it's via a USB 2.0 dongle - it's slimmer than an Ethernet port. This is why we provide .ac wireless as it's an ultra-portable.

I'm pretty sure DP 1.1a is wrong though - should be 1.2a (or whatever GM204 supports)


I need to know if Asus G501 will be released with Intel Skylake Processor with Intel Iris pro graphics and DDR4L SDRAM? I also want to know how much battery life will I get with Asus G501 laptop and will it be same like Mac Book Pro 15 inch?

Intel hasn't even announced Skylake and it hasn't even launched Broadwell quad-cores yet. You're two generations too soon. :p Battery life depends on your user scenario.

That German website listing is completely wrong.

Metalogic
02-17-2015, 08:17 AM
The overlockers websites lists a 120V power supply, which makes me think it's going to be a 960M GPU at best, not a 965M...

Hostilian
02-17-2015, 10:02 AM
Yes it's via a USB 2.0 dongle - it's slimmer than an Ethernet port. This is why we provide .ac wireless as it's an ultra-portable
No wired NIC (apart from via USB dongle)?
...aaand fail.

That's ruled the G501 out for me.
Guess I'll look at something slightly less portable.

#H

snaiperist
02-18-2015, 12:37 PM
http://laptopmedia.com/news/list-of-all-asus-gaming-laptops-which-are-coming-with-nvidia-geforce-gtx-960m-965m/

I doubt the accuracy of their information, I don't think the G501 has room for a 2.5" HDD, they already announced its gonna have a pcie based SSD already and based on the teardown pics of the nx500, space is at a premium already and a laptop of that size won't be able to accommodate such a drive. As such, I wouldn't be jumping to conclusions about GPU based on that page.

You can't be so sure - ZenBook UX303's height is 20.00 mm, but it has 2.5" HDD, mSATA and M.2 :) I bet 2 bucks that G501 is going to have 2.5" + PCIe M.2. And 960M. Cheers :)

generalwyt
02-18-2015, 02:25 PM
960m... Well it is not that bad I guess. And since Marshall says it has a GM204 architecture ,so it is luckily not a rebrand.
It's performance should be ~20% faster than the old gens 860m and should be close to the 965m. Which would make it still not that good for gaming, you can basicly play all the new games at ~45 fps on medium-high 1080p.
It could be a good one, but we would first have to see how the battery and price holds up.
Cause the nx500 uptime was very disapointing, but it's screen is really good apprently.
BTW is the Asus 4k screen 60hrtz?

Metalogic
02-18-2015, 02:42 PM
960m... Well it is not that bad I guess. And since Marshall says it has a GM204 architecture ,so it is luckily not a rebrand.

Do you have a reference for that? I could have sworn I read elsewhere that it's not based on the GM204 architecture, and that only the 965M and above were...

generalwyt
02-18-2015, 02:45 PM
Do you have a reference for that? I could have sworn I read elsewhere that it's not based on the GM204 architecture, and that only the 965M and above were...

"Yes it's via a USB 2.0 dongle - it's slimmer than an Ethernet port. This is why we provide .ac wireless as it's an ultra-portable.

I'm pretty sure DP 1.1a is wrong though - should be 1.2a (or whatever GM204 supports)" is what marshall said on the pervious page and we can basicly almost say for 90% that it is going to be a 960m. The 965m is already released so that one is ruled out.
Also on the videocardz table, there is an asterisk before the 960m and lower series to say that it isn't confirmed yet, since it isn't offical released.

dlinfiniti
02-18-2015, 05:41 PM
You can't be so sure - ZenBook UX303's height is 20.00 mm, but it has 2.5" HDD, mSATA and M.2 :) I bet 2 bucks that G501 is going to have 2.5" + PCIe M.2. And 960M. Cheers :)

I would say it's more apt to compare this with the nx500 which is not able to accommodate such a drive, there's just too much to fit into that small space. If you look at the tear down pictures there really isn't anywhere they could realistically cut back without sacrificing cooling or battery

kelsett
02-18-2015, 08:49 PM
I would say it's more apt to compare this with the nx500 which is not able to accommodate such a drive, there's just too much to fit into that small space. If you look at the tear down pictures there really isn't anywhere they could realistically cut back without sacrificing cooling or battery


Precisely. Look at what the Dell XPS 15 is offering:
- mSATA and a 91Whr battery
OR
- 2.5" HDD, mSATA and a 61Whr battery

... so you can choose either the longer lasting battery or the additionnal drive

Killar
02-21-2015, 08:52 AM
I really hope there will be a variant with the 970m, I don't think the 960m will cut it for 4k...

gobi von bear
02-21-2015, 03:02 PM
MarshallR@ASUS,

Thank you for proving info!

I had some questions if you’re able to answer them. I was planning on buying the Razer Blade 2015, but holding off.

1. Will the RAM on the G501 be soldering to the motherboard?
2. Will you guys have space for more than one PCIE SSD?
3. Since you guys have pictures, do you have any info on dimensions?
4. Any idea on the dimensions on the power brick?

Thank you again!

danjw
02-23-2015, 03:35 PM
Just a thought, but maybe they are waiting for a mobile version of the G-Sync board. That would explain the unannounced Nvidia product.

dlinfiniti
02-25-2015, 12:39 AM
@Marshall@Asus does this thing have the new SM 951 or the older XP 941 like in the NX500

joshindaphils
02-25-2015, 01:32 AM
Just a thought, but maybe they are waiting for a mobile version of the G-Sync board. That would explain the unannounced Nvidia product.

No need for a G-Sync board in a laptop. DPe provides Adaptive Sync, this is what the current 'beta' or hacked drivers are using.

generalwyt
02-26-2015, 05:01 PM
https://facebook.com/rognordic

Asus ROG nordic just posted pictures of the insides of the g501. Looks like it has a HDD/ssd?

danjw
02-27-2015, 05:50 PM
No need for a G-Sync board in a laptop. DPe provides Adaptive Sync, this is what the current 'beta' or hacked drivers are using.

Cool I hadn't heard about that. Just looked into it and it appears it is a leaked driver: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/198603-leaked-nvidia-driver-offers-taste-of-mobile-g-sync

But the updated release driver could still be what they are waiting for to release the G501.

JG61265
02-27-2015, 11:05 PM
I've been shadowing the forum for the GX500/G501 release info for a few months now. I'm guessing there won't be any important updates til the March xxth nVidia announcement?

Kessho
02-28-2015, 07:36 AM
Does this mean that the gx500 is abandoned?
Also, the gx500's keyboard looks cleaner, why is there a need for the num pad in the g501? :S (I think most people don't use the num pad much while gaming anyway)

kelsett
02-28-2015, 09:41 AM
Does this mean that the gx500 is abandoned?
Also, the gx500's keyboard looks cleaner, why is there a need for the num pad in the g501? :S (I think most people don't use the num pad much while gaming anyway)

Yes the gx500 is abandonned. As for the keyboard, I can remember people were complaining about the lack of numpad on the GX500... Can't make everyone happy I guess

reardoma
02-28-2015, 09:17 PM
Does this mean that the gx500 is abandoned?
Also, the gx500's keyboard looks cleaner, why is there a need for the num pad in the g501? :S (I think most people don't use the num pad much while gaming anyway)

I agree it's a bit disappointing to wait half a year for a product to find out it will never be coming out....

and the KICKER...

The updated model is significantly different. I had been searching for a non-num pad centered keypad/trackpad in a 14"-15.6" with a decent GPU in it, and was impressed by the GX500 with it's lack of crazy lighting or racing stripes and lack of a scrunched num pad, but decent gaming specs and a lightweight design.

I suppose i'm a bit disappointed because had i known the GX500 would turn into a num pad machine i would have purchased the Razer Blade, a rMBP, or the NX500.


So now that i know the product i was waiting for has an added number pad and thus off-centered keyboard/trackpad, is there any other laptop i should be considering?

This WAS my consideration list:

1. Asus ROG GX500
2. Razer Blade (14" 970m gpu)
3. Apple rMBP (15" 860m)
4. Asus NX500 (15" gtx 850m)

_
03-01-2015, 09:33 AM
https://facebook.com/rognordic

Asus ROG nordic just posted pictures of the insides of the g501. Looks like it has a HDD/ssd?

Models with HDD have standard battery. Models with PCIE SSD only have extra battery.

_
03-01-2015, 09:34 AM
Cool I hadn't heard about that. Just looked into it and it appears it is a leaked driver: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/198603-leaked-nvidia-driver-offers-taste-of-mobile-g-sync

But the updated release driver could still be what they are waiting for to release the G501.

It's alpha actually; a lot of features are missing. Mobile G-Sync is many months away from release.


Does this mean that the gx500 is abandoned?
Also, the gx500's keyboard looks cleaner, why is there a need for the num pad in the g501? :S (I think most people don't use the num pad much while gaming anyway)

By name, yes, by technology - no, it's the G501, which, yes, now has a number pad.

Kessho
03-01-2015, 11:54 PM
By name, yes, by technology - no, it's the G501, which, yes, now has a number pad.

Yes the gx500 is abandonned. As for the keyboard, I can remember people were complaining about the lack of numpad on the GX500... Can't make everyone happy I guess
But there are already so many laptops with num pads. The only ones I know without the num pad is the 13" zen book models which quite frankly lacks in power due to the ultra low voltage cpu. And asus recently announced the zenbook pro ux501, which has similar characteristics to the gx500. But.. Has a num pad as well which pains me



I agree it's a bit disappointing to wait half a year for a product to find out it will never be coming out....

and the KICKER...

The updated model is significantly different. I had been searching for a non-num pad centered keypad/trackpad in a 14"-15.6" with a decent GPU in it, and was impressed by the GX500 with it's lack of crazy lighting or racing stripes and lack of a scrunched num pad, but decent gaming specs and a lightweight design.

I suppose i'm a bit disappointed because had i known the GX500 would turn into a num pad machine i would have purchased the Razer Blade, a rMBP, or the NX500.


So now that i know the product i was waiting for has an added number pad and thus off-centered keyboard/trackpad, is there any other laptop i should be considering?

This WAS my consideration list:

1. Asus ROG GX500
2. Razer Blade (14" 970m gpu)
3. Apple rMBP (15" 860m)
4. Asus NX500 (15" gtx 850m)
Heh. Ikr. The off-center trackpad just bugs me. I guess its going to be another long waiting game ):

esfomeado
03-02-2015, 12:09 PM
Anyone can please tell me when it's going to be the Nvidia presentation?

Thanks and regards

danjw
03-02-2015, 01:19 PM
Anyone can please tell me when it's going to be the Nvidia presentation?

Well Marshall may know but nobody else here likely does. The Mobile World Conference (MWC) is going on right now in Barcelona, so if it is there, it could happen this week.

dlinfiniti
03-02-2015, 07:46 PM
Well Marshall may know but nobody else here likely does. The Mobile World Conference (MWC) is going on right now in Barcelona, so if it is there, it could happen this week.

Nah they're not at MWC, GDC however is going on in SF this week and they already have a big press event set up for tomorrow 3/3 so I anticipate that's where they're gonna announce whatever is holding up the G501 and what the previously mentioned NDA is about

JG61265
03-02-2015, 08:11 PM
I'm on the other side, glad it's going to have a number pad. As I want to use this model as a crossover gaming/work machine and I use the number pad all time time on my current Asus RoG laptop.

reardoma
03-02-2015, 08:36 PM
Maybe i'm missing the point, now that we know this WILL have a num pad and off centered touchpad, what other options are out there for a NON-num pad lightweight gaming laptop?

I can think of ONE that is 15.6" and does not have a num pad and it's not considered a gaming laptop, the rMBP (which isn't a gaming laptop and therefore we can through in the NX500 into the mix as well).

So thank you ASUS for making us wait for a non-num pad machine... You've got plenty of 15.6" gaming laptops with the num pad, (entire ROG line), Now that you have added the number pad to the GX500 now 501, seriously... what company should i give my money to, b.c it seems ASUS no longer has an option for me......


Lightweight+Portable. 15.6" screen. NO NUM PAD, no off-centered trackpad. Gaming.

SO NOW WHAT?

1. Asus GX500
2. Asus GX501
3. ??????
4, ??????


Sorry i'm a bit lost as to where to go now that i've waited 6 months for a laptop that when released will be drastically different (to the point i now take my money elsewhere unless there's an ASUS i'm just not thinking of)

JG61265
03-03-2015, 05:23 PM
Copied from https://www.facebook.com/NVIDIAGeForce


Tune in tomorrow at 6PM PST for a glimpse at the future of gaming. Are you ‪#‎MADETOGAME‬? http://www.madetogame.com

I assume this is what we're waiting for. Tomorrow in that quote means tonight.

Edit: 4GB 960 cards announced today. Not sure if this will include the mobile platform later. http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/EVGA-and-Inno3D-Announce-First-4GB-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-960-Cards

dlinfiniti
03-04-2015, 01:48 AM
so excited, here we go

dlinfiniti
03-04-2015, 04:42 AM
ugh disappointing, well the wait continues I guess

esfomeado
03-04-2015, 11:47 AM
Copied from https://www.facebook.com/NVIDIAGeForce

I assume this is what we're waiting for. Tomorrow in that quote means tonight.

Edit: 4GB 960 cards announced today. Not sure if this will include the mobile platform later. http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/EVGA-and-Inno3D-Announce-First-4GB-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-960-Cards

The mobile version of the 960 should be released soon.

danjw
03-04-2015, 07:25 PM
Well I didn't see anything come out of their GDC Press Event that would pertain to laptops. So I am guessing that whatever Asus is waiting for will be at the NVIDIA GPU Technology Conference with is March 17-20.

JG61265
03-04-2015, 09:06 PM
Probably right dan. The long wait continues...I know what George RR Martin fans feel like now.

ocho50711
03-05-2015, 05:24 AM
I just looked at the UX501 specs. How exactly is it different than the G501? Unless it's going to have a different GPU, it looks pretty much the same as the G501.

danjw
03-05-2015, 12:28 PM
Probably right dan. The long wait continues...I know what George RR Martin fans feel like now.

Hah, George R. R. Martin fans don't know half of it, Patrick Rothfuss is much worse. ;-)

reardoma
03-05-2015, 07:17 PM
I just looked at the UX501 specs. How exactly is it different than the G501? Unless it's going to have a different GPU, it looks pretty much the same as the G501.


It appears to also have a wonderfully small num pad jammed in there just to disappoint those of us who were waiting for the original GX500 AND got our hopes up since the UX isn't part of the ROG series and therefore the chances of finally getting a non-num pad machine were higher...

My search for a 15 non-num pad machine with >1080p display -

1. Asus GX500
2. Asus GX501
3. Asus UX501
4....................

esfomeado
03-05-2015, 07:37 PM
I just looked at the UX501 specs. How exactly is it different than the G501? Unless it's going to have a different GPU, it looks pretty much the same as the G501.

The specs will be the same or the UX501 will have a 950M and the G501 will have a 960M.
Apart from that the difference is the color.

braveboy510
03-06-2015, 08:49 PM
Since this will be a gaming computer, I really hope they'll find a way to put a 970m in there without frying our laps. I don't think a high price point for such a laptop would make sense if it had anything less than a 970m.

Sieg131
03-06-2015, 10:51 PM
If i'm reading the specs for the ux501 i don't think it has nvidia anything.

i'm waiting to see if the g501 is going to be a good replacement for my g75vw (with upgraded memory and a samsung ssd).
it's getting a bit... old... to lug around this laptop and not have the battery to take notes in college without being attached to the wall.
i'm hoping with the g501 i can get the best of both worlds, smaller lighter form, slight improvements on all fronts spec wise, and a longer battery life.

Kessho
03-07-2015, 12:32 AM
If i'm reading the specs for the ux501 i don't think it has nvidia anything.

i'm waiting to see if the g501 is going to be a good replacement for my g75vw (with upgraded memory and a samsung ssd).
it's getting a bit... old... to lug around this laptop and not have the battery to take notes in college without being attached to the wall.
i'm hoping with the g501 i can get the best of both worlds, smaller lighter form, slight improvements on all fronts spec wise, and a longer battery life.

I believe they are referring to the asus' latest addition, zenbook pro ux501, which colour wise is nothing like the ux501

Killar
03-07-2015, 01:30 AM
Since this will be a gaming computer, I really hope they'll find a way to put a 970m in there without frying our laps. I don't think a high price point for such a laptop would make sense if it had anything less than a 970m.

Definitely...

esfomeado
03-07-2015, 10:21 AM
Since this will be a gaming computer, I really hope they'll find a way to put a 970m in there without frying our laps. I don't think a high price point for such a laptop would make sense if it had anything less than a 970m.

Not going to happen.

danjw
03-07-2015, 12:50 PM
Not going to happen.
Razer put a 970m in their 14" model, so it isn't impossible. I am waiting for the specs before I make a final decision on what I am going to upgrading to. If the Asus G501 ends up with a GPU that will meet my needs, I may go with it. If not, then I will have to look elsewhere. I am not going to write off a product until I at least know what the specs are.

Anyway, the longshoremen strike is over on the Pacific coast (at least for now, they need to vote on the contract still), so we might even see these getting in to the North American market in the next month or so.

kelsett
03-07-2015, 03:28 PM
Razer put a 970m in their 14" model, so it isn't impossible.

That's right, but as a consequence the Razer Blade also suffers from heat issues apparently... That's the challenge: balancing raw power and silence/durability/comfort.

I'm sure ASUS would love to put a 980M in this laptop, but if they don't it's beacuse they have a good reason not to..

This laptop is all about compromise. If ASUS puts a 970M in this laptop, someone else will start complaining about the consequences. There will always be people complaing..

danjw
03-07-2015, 07:57 PM
This laptop is all about compromise. If ASUS puts a 970M in this laptop, someone else will start complaining about the consequences. There will always be people complaing..

True enough, but, since no one outside of Asus knows what the exact specs will be, all you and I can do is speculate. My decision will be to decide if the tradeoffs made by Asus fit me better than the other laptops I am considering. Since Nvidia's announcement is expected this month, and most likely to be at their upcoming event in about a week, I am not sweating it.

DarKris
03-08-2015, 01:21 AM
My question: will there be a 17 inch option with a similar price point (and will the price be similar to the G550)?

danjw
03-08-2015, 01:27 PM
My question: will there be a 17 inch option with a similar price point (and will the price be similar to the G550)?

To the best of my knowledge Asus has not announced such a product.

Sieg131
03-11-2015, 05:27 PM
The page for the ux501 is gone now?

EDIT:

it is now the next day and it is back again.
Some aspects of the page seem a little messed up at the moment.
not much else has changed as far as i know.

L00K3R4
03-12-2015, 03:56 PM
According TechteamGB, NVIDIA has launched the GTX960M and GTX950M (Source: http://techteamgb.co.uk/2015/03/12/nvidia-launches-gtx960m-950m-gt940m-plus-msis-new-laptops/). Also the price of the Apache serie was mentioned (keep in mind that that one is a bit thicker than the GS serie or in our case the G501). Does anybody else has other sources that also confirm the releases of the GTX960m and the GTX950m GPU's?

Edit:
NVIDIA has confirmed the GTX960m and GTX950m at their blog. Also they say "they're available immediately", guess we can expect the Asus Rog G501 very soon in the store(s). (Source: http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/03/12/mobile-gpu/)

L00K3R4
03-12-2015, 04:30 PM
The Asus RoG G501 contains an GTX960m! (Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvu-unZZaS4&feature=youtu.be)

Edit:
Expect a price around €1700,-. The Asus ZenBook Pro (UX501) has two versions:
256GB storage = €1749,-
512Gb storage = €1899,-
(Keep in mind that these are the Dutch prices!), will be delivered around May.

(Source: http://tweakers.net/nieuws/101879/asus-brengt-zenbook-pro-met-uhd-scherm-begin-mei-uit.html)

BunnyKillBot
03-12-2015, 06:21 PM
The specification im looking at lists 4GB of VRAM, however these (dreadful) 950m/960m chips only support 2GB. With that in mind, i think its more likely to be a 965M, or the specification is wrong. 2GB VRAM would be a deal breaker for me. Thats not future proof at all.

esfomeado
03-12-2015, 06:38 PM
What a surprise its a GTX 960M! (sarcasm)


The specification im looking at lists 4GB of VRAM, however these (dreadful) 950m/960m chips only support 2GB. With that in mind, i think its more likely to be a 965M, or the specification is wrong. 2GB VRAM would be a deal breaker for me. Thats not future proof at all.

You are wrong the 960M supports 4GB of VRAM.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-960M.138006.0.html

BunnyKillBot
03-12-2015, 07:20 PM
Ok but it doesnt change the fact these chips are still dreadful at this price point. They are rebadged, slightly overclocked 860 maxwell chips, nothing new and entirely disappointing. The GIGABYTE P35X (3k screen) s the same size and weight and manages to punch in a 980M.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-960M-Review.137893.0.html
(This is the one that lists the 960M as only 2GB VRAM)

edit: In fact, the notbookcheck review you posted is incredibly biased towards this chip, starting out by describing it as is an 'upper mid-range'. 950, 960, 970, 980. The 970 is upper mid, this garbage is clearly lower mid in an otherwise premium product.

Sieg131
03-12-2015, 10:41 PM
any idea of US price and when i can order one of these? i heard like 2K and may above but I'm hoping i could get one before the semester ends...
originally i was hoping for 8-10 hours battery (non-gaming) but we'll see what the reviews look like...

esfomeado
03-13-2015, 10:01 AM
any idea of US price and when i can order one of these? i heard like 2K and may above but I'm hoping i could get one before the semester ends...
originally i was hoping for 8-10 hours battery (non-gaming) but we'll see what the reviews look like...

I would say 2.2k for the FHD version and 2.5K for the 4K version. Correct me if I'm wrong Asus.

L00K3R4
03-13-2015, 01:18 PM
I would say 2.2k for the FHD version and 2.5K for the 4K version. Correct me if I'm wrong Asus.

Close! According to PCWorld and others it will be $2.000,- (Source: PCWorld (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2895927/asus-g501-offers-4k-new-geforce-pcie-ssd-and-even-thunderbolt-in-superthin-case.html), Tomshardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-shows-g501-gaming-laptop,28743.html), Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/13/asus-rog-g501-nvidia-960m/)).

--Edit--
In the Netherlands the laptop will be €1.900,-... let's hope that is incl. 21% VAT. (Source: http://tweakers.net/nieuws/101901/asus-introduceert-dunne-gaminglaptops-met-gtx-950m-en-960m.html)

danjw
03-13-2015, 07:52 PM
Anandtech has a set of specs for it: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9080/asus-republic-of-gamers-announces-new-gaming-laptops
Graphics is the GTX 960M with 4GB of DDR5. So, first generation of Maxwell for the GPU with a little clock bump for the GTX 860M. Oh well, not really even close to being able to properly render games at reasonable settings at the display's native resolution.

ocho50711
03-14-2015, 05:46 AM
Is there a touchscreen option for the G501? Initial reports indicated that there would be touch and non-touch options, but non of the recent reports mention a touchscreen. Actually, I saw one that said that there was no touch option. If that's the case, I'm much more interested in the UX501, or even the NX500 as there seems to be no news about the UX501.

BunnyKillBot
03-14-2015, 08:05 PM
I think the marketing mistake here is them calling this a 'gaming laptop'. Without a doubt, this is the nicest ultrabook on the market today but it is geared more towards the working professional than the gaming market.

esfomeado
03-14-2015, 08:25 PM
I think the marketing mistake here is them calling this a 'gaming laptop'. Without a doubt, this is the nicest ultrabook on the market today but it is geared more towards the working professional than the gaming market.

I will agree with you. It´s a really beauty laptop and it have some gaming power but its more a multimedia laptop.

yungone11
03-19-2015, 04:01 PM
News here: http://rog.asus.com/399392015/g-series-gaming-laptops/g501-the-coolest-quietest-thin-light-15-inch-gaming-laptop-with-4k-pcie-ssd/

Hey...so what is the difference between the ROG G501 and the Zenbook Pro UX501 (other than looks/colors)?? Specs look EXACTLY the same to me.

Do they have the same cooling? Same weight and size?

They have the same battery size but does that equate to the same battery life (6+ hours)?

http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/ZenBook_Pro_UX501/

JG61265
03-19-2015, 09:36 PM
Hey...so what is the difference between the ROG G501 and the Zenbook Pro UX501 (other than looks/colors)?? Specs look EXACTLY the same to me.

Do they have the same cooling? Same weight and size?

They have the same battery size but does that equate to the same battery life (6+ hours)?

http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/ZenBook_Pro_UX501/

Seconded. Would like to know the exact differences when it comes down to picking one.

_
03-20-2015, 08:35 AM
I will agree with you. It´s a really beauty laptop and it have some gaming power but its more a multimedia laptop.


You can play DOTA 2 at 4K at Medium settings :) Are you going to tell 800k people they aren't PC gamers? ;) It's a PC exclusive and by far the most popular game on Steam. Same as Minecraft gamers- predominantly PC, and huge YouTube community there. Civ 5 looks nice too.


Anandtech has a set of specs for it: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9080/asus-republic-of-gamers-announces-new-gaming-laptops
Graphics is the GTX 960M with 4GB of DDR5. So, first generation of Maxwell for the GPU with a little clock bump for the GTX 860M. Oh well, not really even close to being able to properly render games at reasonable settings at the display's native resolution.


It's not for FPS gamers, but RTS/MOBA/MMO is a huge portion of the Steam most played list and this will be great for those games. Running it at Full HD is also fine because the pixels are so small they equal the same size as those on the Full HD panel, so the scaling effect is identical. So, run games at Full HD then benefit from 4K for productivity. After all as PCGMR we have the benefit of choosing our res, not like the console peons :p:p And yes, it's "pseudo-professional/semi-workstation", but any premium gaming-centric products falls under ROG for us.

There's no touchscreen option.

There's currently not much internal differences between UX and G, externally they differ. Prices should be same for same spec. The have the same battery and battery life when picked with identical specs. Obviously if you change a HDD or SSD or spec 8G or 16G this will give slight changes in battery life.

Sieg131
03-20-2015, 04:06 PM
I know ROG likes to tout that it includes more professional Audio software, if the specs are the same will this really make that much of a difference?
also since this is basically the zen book pro, (and while i do love this new laptop I don't need to upgrade immediately...) since i don't really follow the zen books,
is this going to get a refresh next year (or the zen book pro variant?) I love the design, and i love how far it's come but i'm almost hesitant to wait to see if the price will drop or if this price but refreshed next year is what i want.

either way it's still a great laptop, but not much better (if at all) than my current G75vw that i've been slowly upgrading since i bought, though i'm keen for the smaller design.

so yeah:
Q1: Will this (or the zen book pro) refresh later? (ddr4? pascal GPU? or HDMI 2.0 full output)
Q2: Will the fabled ROG version sound and picture be enhanced by the better software? (noticeably?)
Q3: Will the G501 notebook have a small (not refresh but...version shift?) in the summer so I can buy it with windows 10 drivers and such preinstalled?

Will ROG defeat zenbook pro in the next episode of ASUS BALL Z?

_
03-21-2015, 01:26 PM
I know ROG likes to tout that it includes more professional Audio software, if the specs are the same will this really make that much of a difference?

Not hugely - the underlying hardware will be much the same, but different folks for different strokes. Some markets want the UX, some the G, some both.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Tbh if you want really better sound - our USB sound cards are pretty good and scale from thumb-drive size to super-pro Essence series.


is this going to get a refresh next year (or the zen book pro variant?) I love the design, and i love how far it's come but i'm almost hesitant to wait to see if the price will drop or if this price but refreshed next year is what i want. There will be a refresh every time there's a new quad-core("proper") CPU with full PCIE graphics port. The U's don't have that. Can't comment what it will contain as it's whatever Intel/Nv decides to bring to market that fits this thermal envelope. Or, we could make it even thinner.. or fatter and faster... who knows :P

BunnyKillBot
03-22-2015, 11:09 AM
You can play DOTA 2 at 4K at Medium settings :)...

It's not for FPS gamers, but RTS/MOBA/MMO is a huge portion of the Steam

Excuse me, but whether an FPS, RTS, or extreme particle-effect tower defense game, all games have to render the same. Trying to claim 'rts/moba/mmo' games render easier than FPS may be worse marketing than nvidia claiming the 960m is a 9xx series GPU, when its the exact same chip as the previous generation.

And with regards to your DOTA 2 comment, (why you would opt to play at medium settings over a lower resolution is beyond me), and what about when it gets the Source 2 graphics update? What then?

The 960M is just a bad chip, its that simple.

_
03-23-2015, 01:57 AM
Excuse me, but whether an FPS, RTS, or extreme particle-effect tower defense game, all games have to render the same. Trying to claim 'rts/moba/mmo' games render easier than FPS may be worse marketing than nvidia claiming the 960m is a 9xx series GPU, when its the exact same chip as the previous generation.

And with regards to your DOTA 2 comment, (why you would opt to play at medium settings over a lower resolution is beyond me), and what about when it gets the Source 2 graphics update? What then?

The 960M is just a bad chip, its that simple.

I'm sorry but statistics disagree. Different games are based on different engines so they fundementally don't render differently to start with. Statistically a typical popular FPS title, on average, requires more graphical data processing and also require a higher average/min frame-rate to be playable. Outside of e-sports with their incredible APM requirements, MOBA/RTS can generally get away with a lower frame-rate and work from a fixed or limited viewpoint. That's not saying that FPS will have more graphical wizardry or wonder, but simply more elements to render.

Valve only just announced Source 2. If we look at 'Valve time' you'll be buying not the next generation of this notebook, probably 2-3 down the road. We don't even have Steam OS officially yet and that was announced in 2013. Valve certainly won't do anything to hurt its existing franchise - I would expect the new engine to scale well. Not to mention it should have DX12 advantages in near-metal processing for better efficiency - which this Maxwell chip provides.

BunnyKillBot
03-23-2015, 12:29 PM
That's not saying that FPS will have more graphical wizardry or wonder, but simply more elements to render.


Wrong, the genre of a game has nothing to do with number of elements to render. Where the camera is floating does not affect scene complexity.

And you seem to have ignored the 960m is simply a bad chip entirely.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-960M-Review.137893.0.html

960m - 4418 Points
970m - 7440 Points
980m - 9809 Points

Now with a 970m, this thing would be utterly amazing, but with that 960m, which the 980m more than doubles, its absolute garbage trash. At some point, your marketing machine / design team are going to have to admit you made a mistake putting an entry level graphics chip in a premium product.

mdzcpa
03-23-2015, 01:15 PM
The key comment was "Statistically a typical popular FPS title, on average, requires more graphical data processing and also require a higher average/min frame-rate TO BE PLAYABLE" This is undoubtedly true. There just isn't much need for high twitch FPS in MOBA/RTS. These games can indeed be playable with lesser GPUs. Search out the stats on steam behind what GPUs most players use for various games and the trend Marshall speaks of is clear as day.

You either missed the point of what Marshall was saying, or you are cherry picking on purpose tp support your argument.

That said, I also think the 970m would have been preferred as long as they can fit that that GPU into the price point and thermals. Which I suspect they could not or it would be there...obviously. However, I concur that banging the drum too loudly that touts this notebook's gaming performance would seem tricky given the mainstream performance of the 960m. On the other hand, compared to a lot of other ultrabooks, the 960m is a nice feature that allows gaming to be enjoyable (along with other gamer centric features of the notebook), so I can see where Asus is trying to place this product. If gaming was all I wanted out of a notebook, and thin and light was less important, I'd likely pick a different model. But if you want a ultrabook footfootprint and still want to game decently, then this notebook might be a good option (depending on final price point).

BunnyKillBot
03-23-2015, 03:35 PM
FYI, up until today, I held a pre-paid, preorder for this laptop, as i was prepared to sacrifice the GPU for the 4k, m2 and build quality, however I am so disgusted with the attempts to justify this chip from this 'rep' that I have cancelled my order for a Gigabyte P35x V3, 980M, same size and weight, cheaper, will arrive tomorrow and i will be able to run dota 2 (which i play) at 3K with the highest settings. job done.

esfomeado
03-23-2015, 06:52 PM
FYI, up until today, I held a pre-paid, preorder for this laptop, as i was prepared to sacrifice the GPU for the 4k, m2 and build quality, however I am so disgusted with the attempts to justify this chip from this 'rep' that I have cancelled my order for a Gigabyte P35x V3, 980M, same size and weight, cheaper, will arrive tomorrow and i will be able to run dota 2 (which i play) at 3K with the highest settings. job done.

I have the MSI GS60 (970m) and is just a beast and cheaper :)

aryantes
03-23-2015, 08:37 PM
... If gaming was all I wanted out of a notebook, and thin and light was less important, I'd likely pick a different model. But if you want a ultrabook footfootprint and still want to game decently, then this notebook might be a good option (depending on final price point).

I'm in this situation as well.

It is unfortunate to see such a high end notebook not using a better GPU than the 960m though.

I do think that this is going to be better for heat/fan/noise than the MSI and Gigabyte options if that means anything to anyone.

Agreed it is a weird way to justify the use of this chip. Alas, all I do nowadays is program java and occasionally play LoL. I guess these specs fit me... haha.

_
03-24-2015, 01:34 AM
Wrong, the genre of a game has nothing to do with number of elements to render. Where the camera is floating does not affect scene complexity.

And you seem to have ignored the 960m is simply a bad chip entirely.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-960M-Review.137893.0.html

960m - 4418 Points
970m - 7440 Points
980m - 9809 Points

Now with a 970m, this thing would be utterly amazing, but with that 960m, which the 980m more than doubles, its absolute garbage trash. At some point, your marketing machine / design team are going to have to admit you made a mistake putting an entry level graphics chip in a premium product.

I'm generalizing for the benefit of brevity; referring to the most popular titles within that genre, but if we want to be anal, yes, each game has its own very specific load.

The GTX 980M and 970M are premium chips with an equal price and power use. The GTX 960M is the performance-mid area that allows price/power/performance blend due to current technology limitations. It's certainly not entry level; that would be 940/930/920 or Intel graphics.


The key comment was "Statistically a typical popular FPS title, on average, requires more graphical data processing and also require a higher average/min frame-rate TO BE PLAYABLE" This is undoubtedly true. There just isn't much need for high twitch FPS in MOBA/RTS. These games can indeed be playable with lesser GPUs. Search out the stats on steam behind what GPUs most players use for various games and the trend Marshall speaks of is clear as day.

You either missed the point of what Marshall was saying, or you are cherry picking on purpose to support your argument.


Appreciated.

You can try to put higher-end chips in thin notebooks but then you get complaints of very hot surface temps, throttling or just plain overheating. Especially if you don't have AC at home (many countries dont) or live in a humid environment. If you live in Norway, well, buy Razer (for a ~30% higher price) :P

Killar
03-24-2015, 07:31 AM
I'm generalizing for the benefit of brevity; referring to the most popular titles within that genre, but if we want to be anal, yes, each game has its own very specific load.

The GTX 980M and 970M are premium chips with an equal price and power use. The GTX 960M is the performance-mid area that allows price/power/performance blend due to current technology limitations. It's certainly not entry level; that would be 940/930/920 or Intel graphics.



Appreciated.

You can try to put higher-end chips in thin notebooks but then you get complaints of very hot surface temps, throttling or just plain overheating. Especially if you don't have AC at home (many countries dont) or live in a humid environment. If you live in Norway, well, buy Razer (for a ~30% higher price) :P

I have to agree that it is a real shame this laptop doesn't even have an option for the 970m. I can see the 960m running the full had model pretty well, but at 4k I believe the increase in horsepower would be borderline necessary... I wish it was atleast an option.

That is honestly the only thing holding this laptop back from being perfect and the best really portable laptop. Don't get me wrong, It's still better than the MSI 4k which has a crappy refresh rate, and in my opinion still slightly beats the razer blade mainly because of price, but also because the blade is only 14" for some reason and that really bothers me...

But because of this I'm still debating whether to purchase the G501, the Blade, or a 3k GS60, if I can find one with a 970m...

Sieg131
03-24-2015, 10:03 PM
so putting aside the petty names, basically we all like the design (save for that one guy who is really disappointed there is a num pad... sorry),
the 960m isn't a bad chip, but it's probably not the best fit for the gamer market who are buying a 4K display like this laptop. This however is really not up to asus,
they are correct in choosing this chip because of heat and energy, it's still a great laptop and worth considering, and as they will eventually refresh this laptop in the coming year with a pascal GPU 1060m
or some such chip with the lower voltage and heat and higher outputs will make this laptop perfect for a lot of people. i look forward to seeing what happens to this laptop.

i'm not sure how fast the average laptop gamer cycles through laptops but I'm only on my second one (g75VW when it came out is my current).
so if possible can we keep this civil and learn as much as we can from asus instead of calling each other names (both sides here), everyone is entitled to choose whats best for them, and asus will make what they think is best for as many people as possible so they can turn a profit.

who knows what sort of surprises asus might throw into the refresh, or what the laptop will actually run, has anyone actaully got their hands on one of these laptops to try an overclock?

_
03-25-2015, 01:49 AM
I will certainly feedback the need for a faster chip to our product managers. Maybe next gen they can accommodate :)

17" 4K displays should be available by year end, so who knows for the G752? :D:D

esfomeado
03-25-2015, 06:04 PM
so putting aside the petty names, basically we all like the design (save for that one guy who is really disappointed there is a num pad... sorry),
the 960m isn't a bad chip, but it's probably not the best fit for the gamer market who are buying a 4K display like this laptop. This however is really not up to asus,
they are correct in choosing this chip because of heat and energy, it's still a great laptop and worth considering, and as they will eventually refresh this laptop in the coming year with a pascal GPU 1060m
or some such chip with the lower voltage and heat and higher outputs will make this laptop perfect for a lot of people. i look forward to seeing what happens to this laptop.

i'm not sure how fast the average laptop gamer cycles through laptops but I'm only on my second one (g75VW when it came out is my current).
so if possible can we keep this civil and learn as much as we can from asus instead of calling each other names (both sides here), everyone is entitled to choose whats best for them, and asus will make what they think is best for as many people as possible so they can turn a profit.

who knows what sort of surprises asus might throw into the refresh, or what the laptop will actually run, has anyone actaully got their hands on one of these laptops to try an overclock?

I would love to see a refresh of this laptop next year with Nvidia Pascal GPU and a Intel Skylake CPU.

_
03-26-2015, 02:03 AM
There will definitely be Skylake updates all round much later this year. It's only March now. We do periodic refreshes as new tech arrives.

esfomeado
03-26-2015, 10:21 AM
There will definitely be Skylake updates all round much later this year. It's only March now. We do periodic refreshes as new tech arrives.

I'm glad to hear that :).
Like i said maybe later i will buy this laptop with Skylake and Nvidia Pascal GPU.

Sieg131
03-26-2015, 08:27 PM
I'm glad to hear that :).
Like i said maybe later i will buy this laptop with Skylake and Nvidia Pascal GPU.

we can all imagine the dream,
Pascal
skylake
ddr4
and a better battery life to boot (not sure how much extra space you get with the smaller memory modules)

i would buy that in a heart beat at this size. throw in a ROG laptop sleeve ;)

hmscott
03-29-2015, 01:55 AM
With all the pain Realtek has been at the center of with the G750/G751/?, how about we try something else for a change? :)

_
03-29-2015, 05:47 AM
With all the pain Realtek has been at the center of with the G750/G751/?, how about we try something else for a change? :)

It's how Windows handles 2.1 systems that are the fault. Previous to Realtek we used VIA - same result. Realtek are the most compatible and most used sound products in the entire PC industry.

Corvid
03-29-2015, 06:05 AM
To MarshallR@Asus -- I'm not sure if this was answered already but:

When do you expect the G501s to ship with the new 5th generation Broadwell processors? I know intel is still dragging its feet with releasing the quadcore version of these processors. Or will Asus skip this all together and just wait to refresh with Skylake (whenever that will happen, I'm guessing sometime in 2016 with Intels slow track records...)

Thank you!

hurric
03-29-2015, 09:21 PM
When is it being released in Canada or Taiwan? I'm travelling to Taiwan in a couple of weeks or I need to wait to buy it here or there. Was supposed to be March but it's already April. I'm really starting to look at other alternatives.

_
03-30-2015, 01:55 AM
Taiwan - you can try Guanhua market, but rarely you'll find something so high-end here unfortunately. Taiwan people buy cheap n cheerful :( which is really frustrating for me too!

Canada - have you tried asking on ASUS North America FB page? Or poking NCIX?

hurric
03-30-2015, 02:26 AM
yup..asked rog twitter but they say "this spring" https://twitter.com/ASUSUSA/status/580491608006737920
oh well.. thanks for the reply. I was looking at PCHOME on Taiwan but can't find it there either. I don't even know how much it's supposed to be.

JG61265
04-01-2015, 09:31 PM
http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-g501jwds71-eta-april-2015-p-8099.html
http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-ux501jwds71t-touch-eta-early-may-p-8114.html
Don't see any options for the FHD screen or other base storage.

The UX is listed with a touch screen but only a 2GB graphics cards while the G501 has 4GB.

Sieg131
04-02-2015, 01:59 PM
"Together with NVIDIA, we have announced that customers who purchase qualifying GeForce GTX graphics cards (GTX 980, 970 or 960) or notebooks (GTX 970M and above) will receive a code for a free copy of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt!"


okay i might be a little sad that this doesn't have a 970m or greater now. haha that would be a sweet bundle to throw in.

aryantes
04-02-2015, 08:10 PM
Anyone know the brightness for the 4k display? nits?

infinite
04-04-2015, 04:25 AM
Marshall will the g501 or ux501 have the quantum dot screens?

Bozzified
04-06-2015, 06:30 AM
One fixed PCI-E storage of 512gb?

Who in the hell is going to buy this? Some of your choices are beyond puzzling.. Gigabyte and MSI can make super slim laptops with 4K screens with multiple storage options can ASUS can't (I won't even note the new upcoming AORUS X5 with SLI graphics that looks slimmer and slicker than G501)? Jesus.

You keep making these mammoth ROG laptops or you make a super slick looking laptop and then do something stupid like limiting the storage options.

And please STOP USING OPTIMUS technology or make laptops where we can use discrete graphics ONLY if we choose to. It sucks, the Intel integrated GPU sucks and on top of that we can't even run other operating systems on the laptops because of crap Optimus. In addition it doesn't provide that much of a battery improvement to begin with.

It's just weird the choices you make.

dlinfiniti
04-07-2015, 01:02 AM
Marshall, could you give us a rundown on the different configurations and their designations?
Seems like G501JW-DS71 is the standard model with 16gb ram, larger battery and just 512gb pciex4
What about the other models and their designations? Also, which models do or don't come with the thunderbolt port?

shadyguido
04-11-2015, 03:37 AM
Marshall, could you give us a rundown on the different configurations and their designations?
Seems like G501JW-DS71 is the standard model with 16gb ram, larger battery and just 512gb pciex4
What about the other models and their designations? Also, which models do or don't come with the thunderbolt port?

that would be helpful

infinite
04-14-2015, 10:18 AM
will this actually be released?

Ruby Rabbit
04-16-2015, 04:23 AM
@ MarshallR - Can you tell us the refresh rate on the 4K screen? I just hope it is not 48hz..

_
04-16-2015, 08:02 AM
@ MarshallR - Can you tell us the refresh rate on the 4K screen? I just hope it is not 48hz..

60Hz. Certainly not lower and there's not yet the display standard available to run higher bandwidth for higher refresh sorry.

_
04-16-2015, 08:05 AM
Sorry for late replies all:


will this actually be released?

Already at OCUK https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=LT-209-AS&groupid=959&catid=1828


Marshall will the g501 or ux501 have the quantum dot screens?

I don't think it is included sorry.


Marshall, could you give us a rundown on the different configurations and their designations?
Seems like G501JW-DS71 is the standard model with 16gb ram, larger battery and just 512gb pciex4
What about the other models and their designations? Also, which models do or don't come with the thunderbolt port?

I know this would be SUPER helpful, and we're slowly trying to change this but for all our generations to date we've never been able to collect this information sorry. The suffix's are all created by the individual stores/regions according to their desired specification. The only way to see is browse the product pages on each store.


To MarshallR@Asus -- I'm not sure if this was answered already but:

When do you expect the G501s to ship with the new 5th generation Broadwell processors? I know intel is still dragging its feet with releasing the quadcore version of these processors. Or will Asus skip this all together and just wait to refresh with Skylake (whenever that will happen, I'm guessing sometime in 2016 with Intels slow track records...)

Thank you!

No, I don't. For mobile Broadwell is currently only available as low-voltage dual core, not high performance. It's only suitable for performance:value products like GR6. Next generation will focus on Skylake much later this year, so G501 will be current product for a while.

esfomeado
04-16-2015, 07:36 PM
Review: http://laptopmedia.com/review/asus-rog-g501-review-the-new-standard-for-next-generation-gaming-laptops/

_
04-17-2015, 01:59 AM
Great review! The G501 with only M.2 drive no HDD will have extra battery to last longer as well.
We've noted the backlight PWM concern raised in the review and I've sent the info to our engineers to look at. I suspect it's not atypical of notebooks though given the backlight consumes a lot of power.

aryantes
04-17-2015, 03:33 AM
Sorry for late replies all:
Already at OCUK https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=LT-209-AS&groupid=959&catid=1828

That looks like a pre-order. same with XoticPC in USA with no release date though.

Hopefully it won't take too long... but then again I was waiting for the NX500 and GX500 so this seems normal haha.

Sieg131
04-17-2015, 05:38 PM
"- Supplied Accessories: Gaming Carry bag + USB2.0 to RJ45 cable + mDP to VGA cable"

So is this like a backpack like the one that came with the G75? I haven't been able to find any pictures.
Also on board the "when is it really out" camp, but again, will be waiting to see when it at least comes with windows 10 pre-loaded.

Ruby Rabbit
04-19-2015, 10:08 AM
60Hz. Certainly not lower and there's not yet the display standard available to run higher bandwidth for higher refresh sorry.

Thanks Marshall. 60hz is just great! the G60 ghost pro, Origin Evo15-s ship with Samsung 48hz panels.

Will ASUS release a 970m version? This would make it an absolute beast and I would buy it instantly!!! I just think the 960m is just too low this gaming laptop. If they put 970m in it you would be king of the hill and out do the Razer blade and may others.

Bozzified
04-19-2015, 02:13 PM
Great review! The G501 with only M.2 drive no HDD will have extra battery to last longer as well.

Marshall, will there be an option to use the GPU as discrete graphics and turn off IGP? I'm really hoping you are allowing an option to turn off IGP and not funnel the discrete graphics through IGP to the display. I am not a gamer but I've been buying ASUS products because I wanted powerful mobile workstations but with this muxless implementations of Optimus it becomes a nightmare to work with multiple OSs.

For those who don't have a priority on battery life it would be very nice to simply have an option to use the GPU to it's full potential. Lenovo made it happen with their previous models making them mux-ed and not muxless and a serious gaming laptop should have this option.

Can you let us all know whether or not whether that's an option?


Second question is related to this review.. the model this review is showing seems to have a spot for a 2.5" drive. Will this variant be available for purchase?

_
04-20-2015, 06:03 AM
"- Supplied Accessories: Gaming Carry bag + USB2.0 to RJ45 cable + mDP to VGA cable"

So is this like a backpack like the one that came with the G75? I haven't been able to find any pictures.
Also on board the "when is it really out" camp, but again, will be waiting to see when it at least comes with windows 10 pre-loaded.

Microsoft already stated all Win 8.1 systems get a free Win 10 upgrade. :)


Thanks Marshall. 60hz is just great! the G60 ghost pro, Origin Evo15-s ship with Samsung 48hz panels.

Will ASUS release a 970m version? This would make it an absolute beast and I would buy it instantly!!! I just think the 960m is just too low this gaming laptop. If they put 970m in it you would be king of the hill and out do the Razer blade and may others.

We're not planning one with GTX 970M currently sorry; at this time we feel temp and battery life would be too compromised.


Marshall, will there be an option to use the GPU as discrete graphics and turn off IGP? I'm really hoping you are allowing an option to turn off IGP and not funnel the discrete graphics through IGP to the display. I am not a gamer but I've been buying ASUS products because I wanted powerful mobile workstations but with this muxless implementations of Optimus it becomes a nightmare to work with multiple OSs.

For those who don't have a priority on battery life it would be very nice to simply have an option to use the GPU to it's full potential. Lenovo made it happen with their previous models making them mux-ed and not muxless and a serious gaming laptop should have this option.

Can you let us all know whether or not whether that's an option?

Second question is related to this review.. the model this review is showing seems to have a spot for a 2.5" drive. Will this variant be available for purchase?

Unfortunately there is not an option to disable the Intel graphics completely sorry. I understand Optimus is not for everyone - which is why it was removed from G751 series, and I am pushing them to remove it from all G series.

WhiteScorp
04-20-2015, 11:30 AM
Good news Everyone - G501JW-DS71 - In Stock - NewEgg

infinite
04-20-2015, 12:56 PM
Any details on the display like model no. Is it igzo? Is the nx500 screen the better choice as image quality for me is important.

Skjoldur
04-20-2015, 02:12 PM
Is it possible to output 4k@60Hz via mDP? Is it 1.1 or 1.2? And what refresh rate is supported for 4k output via Thunderbolt?

farronsama
04-20-2015, 02:33 PM
Will the 1080p version be available in the US?

JG61265
04-20-2015, 02:50 PM
Good news Everyone - G501JW-DS71 - In Stock - NewEgg

Went to buy it this morning but it's not showing up on neweggbusiness.com where I have my account. :mad:

EDIT: Got it ordered! Has anyone put Windows 7 on these laptops where Asus only offers the Windows 8 drivers? Is it a pain tracking down all the necessary software?

JG61265
04-20-2015, 03:48 PM
"- Supplied Accessories: Gaming Carry bag + USB2.0 to RJ45 cable + mDP to VGA cable"

So is this like a backpack like the one that came with the G75? I haven't been able to find any pictures.
Also on board the "when is it really out" camp, but again, will be waiting to see when it at least comes with windows 10 pre-loaded.

Ordered this today but the bag isn't on the list of contents :\

J82
04-20-2015, 05:12 PM
Will the 1080p version be available in the US?

I would love the 1080p version and larger battery version.

I only see the 4k version on newegg, amazon, and the ASUS store. Will the 1080p and customizable options be available for the US?

Thanks!

agaw
04-20-2015, 05:21 PM
G501 is now on sale. It was released a week ago in Singapore. I played with it earlier. Can anyone comment on whether it does indeed have PCIx4 as when the ASUS rep opened it up only 2 were visible, are the other 2 located under the keyboard?! retailing for 2698 SGD exVAT in ASUS or 2599 SGD exVAT in some competitor stores in the Funan digital Mall in SG. It got really hot on a Firestrike Extreme test on the top right corner after 15 mins. All vents are at the back under the screen where it folds. no intake, I'm doubtful at just how cool this thing can stay without a cooling pad or the AC on full.

JG61265
04-20-2015, 06:29 PM
G501 is now on sale. It was released a week ago in Singapore. I played with it earlier. Can anyone comment on whether it does indeed have PCIx4 as when the ASUS rep opened it up only 2 were visible, are the other 2 located under the keyboard?! retailing for 2698 SGD exVAT in ASUS or 2599 SGD exVAT in some competitor stores in the Funan digital Mall in SG. It got really hot on a Firestrike Extreme test on the top right corner after 15 mins. All vents are at the back under the screen where it folds. no intake, I'm doubtful at just how cool this thing can stay without a cooling pad or the AC on full.

PCIx4 is the speed, not the number of slots.
http://blog.duropc.com/2013/07/the-difference-between-pcie-x1-x4-x8-x16-and-x32/

_
04-21-2015, 03:14 AM
G501 is now on sale. It was released a week ago in Singapore. I played with it earlier. Can anyone comment on whether it does indeed have PCIx4 as when the ASUS rep opened it up only 2 were visible, are the other 2 located under the keyboard?! retailing for 2698 SGD exVAT in ASUS or 2599 SGD exVAT in some competitor stores in the Funan digital Mall in SG. It got really hot on a Firestrike Extreme test on the top right corner after 15 mins. All vents are at the back under the screen where it folds. no intake, I'm doubtful at just how cool this thing can stay without a cooling pad or the AC on full.

PCIE 4x is the bandwidth of the single M.2 slot.

The vents are beneath the display - they will unavoidably get hot because that's where the hot air comes out. The wrist/keyboard area should remain cool. The air intake mechanism has been carefully crafted after years of ASUS R&D knowledge in Zenbook and Transformer Book designs.



Is it possible to output 4k@60Hz via mDP? Is it 1.1 or 1.2? And what refresh rate is supported for 4k output via Thunderbolt?

DP 1.2 - 4k@60Hz. Both Haswell CPUs and Nvidia Maxwell support DP1.2.

'Thunderbolt display' is simply a DP output.

Skjoldur
04-21-2015, 05:51 AM
DP 1.2 - 4k@60Hz. Both Haswell CPUs and Nvidia Maxwell support DP1.2.

'Thunderbolt display' is simply a DP output.

Great, thanks. I read somewhere that is was going to be 1.1, which would have been very disappointing. Will the Thunderbolt be in addition to the mDP or replace it? I am asking because I thought, that Thunderbolt only support DP 1.1a. -- Or can you have both, 1.1a and 1.2 on the same port, depending on wether you use TB or DP?

Edit: You really need to get your information in line. http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/G501JW/ shows Thunderbolt with 10Gbit/s and http://store.asus.com/us/item/201503AM110000043/A23719 shows Thunderbolt 2 with 20 Gbit/s. I assume it is Thunderbolt 2.0, which would support DP 1.2 anyway? Just add the version numbers to the official specs, please.

jinishans
04-21-2015, 06:21 AM
PCIE 4x is the bandwidth of the single M.2 slot.

'Thunderbolt display' is simply a DP output.

Can you pls clarify how many M.2 slots available for upgrade and how easy ?

Is there just only one M.2 or more ?

Also, whether HDMI is 1.4 ver. ? Is the battery replaceable ?

Is there any plans for G701 with 1080p with more powerful GC ?

Edit: I just read the review (link from one of the above reply), seems one M.2 slot is there. Can you let us know in this case, the 512GB SSD is 2.5 SSD or M.2 ? Also, what's the transfer speed of this M.2 slot, just 6Gbps ? Whether it's SATA 3/2/PCIe x4 ?

Skjoldur
04-21-2015, 01:42 PM
My last reply disappeared after I edited it.

So here the short version: On http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/G501JW/ the Thunderbolt port seems to be a TB 1.0 since the page says 10Gbit/s. However, on http://store.asus.com/us/item/201503AM110000043/A23719 it says Thunderbolt 2.0.

It would be good if at least the Asus page would show the same specification. It would also be helpful if version numbers for Displayport, Thunderbolt and HDMI were shown in the specs. For USB 3.0 they are shown.

So, which one is it? Thunderbolt 1.0 or 2.0?

Gudmit
04-21-2015, 07:35 PM
Hi all! I have one question: in this review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLmqfjjBPJ0) we can see that in g501jw in slot M.2 PCI Express x4 using SSD Transcend TS256GMTS800 M.2. But SSD TS256GMTS800 has SATA III interface! Is it fake? Or is it possible to use SSD'S M.2 SATA III in slot M.2 PCI Express x4?

jinishans
04-21-2015, 08:25 PM
Hi all! I have one question: in this review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLmqfjjBPJ0) we can see that in g501jw in slot M.2 PCI Express x4 using SSD Transcend TS256GMTS800 M.2. But SSD TS256GMTS800 has SATA III interface! Is it fake? Or is it possible to use SSD'S M.2 SATA III in slot M.2 PCI Express x4?

The review here in laptopmedia (http://laptopmedia.com/review/asus-rog-g501-review-the-new-standard-for-next-generation-gaming-laptops/#comment-604) shows clearly it has PCIe x4, but, I'm waiting for an answer from this forum and this reviewer author whether it's Gen 2.0 (6 GB/s speed) or Gen 3.0 (10 GB/s) (If I'm not wrong).

Also, I'm sure you can use any M.2 SATA on PCIe provided they're M-keyed, and the otherway, issue is you won't get x4 Gen 3 speed due to SATA III speed limitation. Someone can correct me if this is incorrect.

drntropy
04-21-2015, 10:38 PM
Hi Marshall,

First time poster, long time reader. I was wondering when Newegg's exclusivity agreement will end? I don't see anyone else selling the laptop right now and I do not wish to buy it from them. Thanks.

Uhd
04-22-2015, 01:34 AM
Marshall,

What is ETA for Canada for G501? Also, which retailer(s) would get it first?

Thank you!

Skjoldur
04-22-2015, 06:00 AM
Hi Marshall,

First time poster, long time reader. I was wondering when Newegg's exclusivity agreement will end? I don't see anyone else selling the laptop right now and I do not wish to buy it from them. Thanks.

I haven't seen the 4k version in Germany either. I really need to replace my old MBPr 2012...

Sargatanas
04-22-2015, 06:35 AM
I haven't seen the 4k version in Germany either. I really need to replace my old MBPr 2012...
Same here - only FHD Versions available in Germany, guess we also won't see the ones with larger Batterie...

Skjoldur
04-22-2015, 07:02 AM
Same here - only FHD Versions available in Germany, guess we also won't see the ones with larger Batterie...

I would prefer UHD, but I actually could live with FHD if I had to. The 96 Whrs battery on the other hand is a must. I really hope they will sell it in Germany.

Sargatanas
04-22-2015, 01:20 PM
Guess not - like we also didn't get the G751jy with 4860hq

J82
04-22-2015, 03:33 PM
Same here - only FHD Versions available in Germany, guess we also won't see the ones with larger Batterie...


Don't understand why we cant have the FHD version, along with the option of the larger Battery, and the 512 gb SSD (rather than 1 TB 7200 rpm).

4k display has so many scaling issues especially adobe products.

JG61265
04-22-2015, 03:52 PM
Hi Marshall,

First time poster, long time reader. I was wondering when Newegg's exclusivity agreement will end? I don't see anyone else selling the laptop right now and I do not wish to buy it from them. Thanks.

Weird, it was listed on hidevolution and xoticpc.com for awhile and they both disappeared. Wonder if they got ticked about the exclusive launch. Kind of a screw job to other retailers and customers that don't want to use newegg.

Skjoldur
04-22-2015, 04:28 PM
Don't understand why we cant have the FHD version, along with the option of the larger Battery, and the 512 gb SSD (rather than 1 TB 7200 rpm).

4k display has so many scaling issues especially adobe products.

The nice thing about UHD is, that it is exactly 4 times FHD, so you will always be able to switch to FHD and it will still look great if you run into any problems. It even displays 1280x720 very well since this is exactly 1/9th of UHD.

I need to work and play on my notebook when I am abroad, so UHD / 4k is perfekt for me, because I need the real estate. The large battery is even more important.

Razer made the dumb move to go for a 3200x1800 and there are virtually no external monitors with that resolution so I would have to readjust all windows after connecting. But then again they did not add a DisplayPort and they decided yet again to not enter the European market, Germany in specific. I would have bought it otherwise even though its runtime is not that great.

This one is my last hope for the moment...

cajun_azn
04-22-2015, 07:22 PM
Can someone shed some light on the specifications of the UHD display in ASUS ROG G501JW-DS71?

Is the UHD matte or glossy? On Newegg's Q&A section, LJ L says the monitor's model number is Samsung LTN156FL02-101, which is glossy. But the product description on Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232427) and Asus Store (http://store.asus.com/us/item/201503AM110000043/A23719) says the display is matte.
Edit: Marshall said earlier that the screen is matte (Source (https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?59083-ASUS-Republic-of-Gamers-Announces-G501-Ultra-Slim-Gaming-Laptop&p=485522&viewfull=1#post485522))
Furthermore, I would like to see lab results of the monitor, and having the correct model number would be very helpful. Laptopmedia.com (http://laptopmedia.com/review/asus-rog-g501-review-the-new-standard-for-next-generation-gaming-laptops/) reviewed the FHD version and said the FHD version is Samsung 156HL01-102. If the ROG G501 UHD monitor has been shipped with other models, then perhaps there already exists lab results to look up.

This laptop may be an upgrade to my Sony svz13114gxx. Thanks in advance!

J82
04-22-2015, 10:25 PM
The nice thing about UHD is, that it is exactly 4 times FHD, so you will always be able to switch to FHD and it will still look great if you run into any problems. It even displays 1280x720 very well since this is exactly 1/9th of UHD.

I need to work and play on my notebook when I am abroad, so UHD / 4k is perfekt for me, because I need the real estate. The large battery is even more important.

Razer made the dumb move to go for a 3200x1800 and there are virtually no external monitors with that resolution so I would have to readjust all windows after connecting. But then again they did not add a DisplayPort and they decided yet again to not enter the European market, Germany in specific. I would have bought it otherwise even though its runtime is not that great.

This one is my last hope for the moment...

Yes, UHD will look great on 1080p mode. However, there are still some programs that still have dpi scaling issues even after adjusting the resolution on the UHD monitor.

Skjoldur
04-22-2015, 10:53 PM
Yes, UHD will look great on 1080p mode. However, there are still some programs that still have dpi scaling issues even after adjusting the resolution on the UHD monitor.

How? The actual resolution will be 1080p, the rest is done by the display. Are you sure you don't mean one of those fake resolutions like MBPr uses for 1080p on retina displays?

Uhd
04-22-2015, 11:40 PM
Can someone shed some light on the specifications of the UHD display in ASUS ROG G501JW-DS71?

Is the UHD matte or glossy? On Newegg's Q&A section, LJ L says the monitor's model number is Samsung LTN156FL02-101, which is glossy. But the product description on Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232427) and Asus Store (http://store.asus.com/us/item/201503AM110000043/A23719) says the display is matte.
Edit: Marshall said earlier that the screen is matte (Source (https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?59083-ASUS-Republic-of-Gamers-Announces-G501-Ultra-Slim-Gaming-Laptop&p=485522&viewfull=1#post485522))
Furthermore, I would like to see lab results of the monitor, and having the correct model number would be very helpful. Laptopmedia.com (http://laptopmedia.com/review/asus-rog-g501-review-the-new-standard-for-next-generation-gaming-laptops/) reviewed the FHD version and said the FHD version is Samsung 156HL01-102. If the ROG G501 UHD monitor has been shipped with other models, then perhaps there already exists lab results to look up.



Well, if G501 got this Samsung panel, it is not the true RBG, but a horrible RGBW !!! It is the same cheap panel used in Lenovo Y50, MSI, Inspiron and other budget notebooks. It has lots of issues like yellow color deficiency and ragged font rendering. In addition, it is not a true 4k resolution, because Samsung counts every 4 subpixels (RG, BW) as 2 separate pixels. As a result, with Samsung panels you get much worse picture quality comparing to 4k Sharp IGZO true RGB panels or even to much lower-resolution retina MacBooks.

I am so dissapointed in Asus! So much fanfare, such long product delays and as a result so mediocre quality... at premium prices?

Skjoldur
04-23-2015, 12:05 AM
Well, if G501 got this Samsung panel, it is not the true RBG, but a horrible RGBW !!! It is the same cheap panel used in Lenovo Y50, MSI, Inspiron and other budget notebooks. It has lots of issues like yellow color deficiency and ragged font rendering. In addition, it is not a true 4k resolution, because Samsung counts every 4 subpixels (RG, BW) as 2 separate pixels. As a result, with Samsung panels you get much worse picture quality comparing to 4k Sharp IGZO true RGB panels or even to much lower-resolution retina MacBooks.

I am so dissapointed in Asus! So much fanfare, such long product delays and as a result so mediocre quality... at premium prices?

I am waiting for some official information. There are too many rumors and guesses already.

It certainly does not help that there are several contradictory facts on different Asus websites. And on the german Asus site you can't even find it although it is available at certain resellers. -- Alas no version with TB, UHD or the 96Whrs battery..

cajun_azn
04-23-2015, 02:20 PM
I am waiting for some official information. There are too many rumors and guesses already.

It certainly does not help that there are several contradictory facts on different Asus websites. And on the german Asus site you can't even find it although it is available at certain resellers. -- Alas no version with TB, UHD or the 96Whrs battery..
Agree, I also wait for some official information.

On Newegg, Manual H said his UHD display is matte. It appears LJ L's comment in Newegg Q&A about the model number was incorrect because it contradicts all other sources. Waiting for some official information or, equivalently, lab results.

J82
04-23-2015, 02:44 PM
How? The actual resolution will be 1080p, the rest is done by the display. Are you sure you don't mean one of those fake resolutions like MBPr uses for 1080p on retina displays?

This is what I meant

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7939/scaling-windows-the-dpi-arms-race/4

Skjoldur
04-24-2015, 09:26 AM
This is what I meant

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7939/scaling-windows-the-dpi-arms-race/4

But in this case they did not change the resolution, so of course they run into the scaling problems. I just said that you can reduce the resolution from UHD to FHD without the usual interpolation issues if need be. There will be no scaling.

J82
04-24-2015, 02:49 PM
But in this case they did not change the resolution, so of course they run into the scaling problems. I just said that you can reduce the resolution from UHD to FHD without the usual interpolation issues if need be. There will be no scaling.

Ahh, gotcha.

I guess another thing we could do is get the FHD version , swap out the HD with a SSD (voiding the warranty), and see if we can buy an additional 96 watt battery to replace the one already in the case (not sure if this is possible, anyone?).

kotjinx
04-25-2015, 01:29 PM
Hi There

Two quick questions, apologies if these have been asked / answered before:
1) Are versions with higher end 4th gen or 5th gen intel processors expected? If so, when would they be hitting the market?
2) There seem to be two versions of the GX501 floating around: one with the SSD on m.2, and another (as in the Bulgarian review) with a spinning drive. Does that mean that the SSD version has a free slot for an extra drive? Or is the space perhaps taken up by the larger battery or sth. else?

Many thanks in advance for clarifying!

Alboma
04-25-2015, 02:52 PM
Just wondering will G501 be released in North America before end of April?
I've been to various sites like NCIX, Newegg and Amazon and they don't have any info of it.
I've been waiting for it since its announcement. Nah, don't want to get G551JW as it's 2GB dedicated memory at NCIX.
Unless I can find the 4GB version somewhere.

Skjoldur
04-25-2015, 06:03 PM
Just wondering will G501 be released in North America before end of April?
I've been to various sites like NCIX, Newegg and Amazon and they don't have any info of it.
I've been waiting for it since its announcement. Nah, don't want to get G551JW as it's 2GB dedicated memory at NCIX.
Unless I can find the 4GB version somewhere.

They are available at Newegg right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232427

And you are lucky: Its the best configuration.

leognam
04-25-2015, 06:43 PM
I'm currently deciding between the G501 or the UX501 as my next laptop. I'll be using it for some moderate gaming, music production, work, and portable entertainment. I have two questions:

1. How big a difference does the 4 GB on the GTX 960 make compared to the 2 GB version that the UX501 has? If I don't intend to upgrade for a while, would the 2 GB make a significant difference in the long term, especially with the 4K screen?

2. Is the obnoxious Republic of Gamers logo on the lid of the G501 always that bright red, or is it a backlight that can be turned off? I don't really mind the black detailing of the rest of it, but that logo kills it for me.

Thanks!

Skjoldur
04-27-2015, 07:49 PM
I'm currently deciding between the G501 or the UX501 as my next laptop. I'll be using it for some moderate gaming, music production, work, and portable entertainment. I have two questions:

1. How big a difference does the 4 GB on the GTX 960 make compared to the 2 GB version that the UX501 has? If I don't intend to upgrade for a while, would the 2 GB make a significant difference in the long term, especially with the 4K screen?

2. Is the obnoxious Republic of Gamers logo on the lid of the G501 always that bright red, or is it a backlight that can be turned off? I don't really mind the black detailing of the rest of it, but that logo kills it for me.

Thanks!

I read somewhere that on a weak GPU like the 960m the amount of RAM above 2GB is negligible because the card would get performance problems before RAM problems. Kinda makes sense for most games I guess, and you are not going to play in 4k anyway, so 2GB is enough, I'd say.

I would buy either G501 or UX501, though I think the G501 looks a bit better, but then again, the UX501 has a touch screen. From my experience with the first Transformer, you get used to it very quickly.

But if Asus takes much longer with bringing either of those models with the larger battery, 4k and hopefully TB2.0 to the german market, I think I would rather wait for the next iteration of slim gaming notebooks, possibly with better CPU and GPU.

That said, it has become kinda quite with official responses...

Sargatanas
04-29-2015, 06:36 AM
My wife ordered one, arrived yesterday.
So far the Quality is really good, I do not see such a bending of the Keyboard like in the Review under normal usage/pressure.

WhiteScorp
04-29-2015, 09:36 AM
My wife ordered one, arrived yesterday.
So far the Quality is really good, I do not see such a bending of the Keyboard like in the Review under normal usage/pressure.

G501JW-DS71 model?

Sargatanas
04-29-2015, 11:09 AM
G501JW-CN030H
mine is a european/german one

Steel
04-29-2015, 07:07 PM
Do you happen to know if there is any QWERTY variants available in Germany? The one on Amazon seems to be QWERTZ.

lion
04-29-2015, 08:42 PM
Hi, I am interested in the G501 however I have a few questions concerning the review from laptopmag:

1. How is real life battery life when doing office work and surfing (no gaming or heavy duty stuff)?
2. Do you notice the mentioned Pulse-width modulation flickering of the lcd backlight? Is it a real world problem?
3. How would you rate the built quality compared to an Acer VN7-571g/-591g (if you can say something about it)?

Thank you for your help!

drntropy
04-30-2015, 02:29 AM
Hi all, this review was posted on Amazon, does it have any merit? I'm concerned.

1.0 out of 5 stars 4k screen but it doesn't play 4k video smoothly, technical design failure IMO, April 29, 2015
By jase
This review is from: ASUS ROG G501JW-DS71 15.6-Inch Gaming Laptop (Personal Computers)
I don't know about 4k gaming, but you can't even play 4k video on this laptop. What's good to have a 4k screen on a laptop if the GPU doesn't support 4k video playback. Go to Nvidia's website to verify yourself. I'm returning this laptop today. 4k is supported by gtx960, but not 960m. Will not try any more Asus laptop after this one since the product hardware combination doesn't make sense. Try playing 4k video with VLC and it's choppy as hell.

Sargatanas
04-30-2015, 02:04 PM
Do you happen to know if there is any QWERTY variants available in Germany? The one on Amazon seems to be QWERTZ.
I think most european ones have qwertz, maybe a uk version

ShenLong
04-30-2015, 03:41 PM
how much is it?

Skjoldur
04-30-2015, 05:35 PM
I just read that there will be only one version of the UX501... 4k, but without TB2, without the fast SSD and likely only the weaker battery. If this will be the case with the G501, and it looks like it at the moment, Asus has again lost me as a customer.

Sorry, but such decisions are... beyond reason... to put it mildly.

J82
04-30-2015, 05:52 PM
I just read that there will be only one version of the UX501... 4k, but without TB2, without the fast SSD and likely only the weaker battery. If this will be the case with the G501, and it looks like it at the moment, Asus has again lost me as a customer.

Sorry, but such decisions are... beyond reason... to put it mildly.

It's a shame they're unwilling to use the larger battery life. it's one of the biggest selling point for this laptop over its competitors.

Sargatanas
05-01-2015, 04:25 AM
how much is it?
1399 for the G501JW-CN168H with 8gb ram
1499 for the G501JW-CN030H with 16gb ram
other specs are identical

ShenLong
05-01-2015, 01:09 PM
1399 for the G501JW-CN168H with 8gb ram
1499 for the G501JW-CN030H with 16gb ram
other specs are identical

thanks but I see 1999$ in web store?

Skjoldur
05-01-2015, 01:44 PM
thanks but I see 1999$ in web store?

These are Euro prices, I think.

J82
05-01-2015, 03:56 PM
1399 for the G501JW-CN168H with 8gb ram
1499 for the G501JW-CN030H with 16gb ram
other specs are identical

This is so frustrating. The laptop is great - I just wish there were more options! The 1080p IPS version looks great, but looking at these models only have the 4 cell battery. I just don't understand - the 6 cell battery (IMO) should be standard in all these laptops. The long battery life is a HUGE selling point for his laptop!

cajun_azn
05-01-2015, 11:31 PM
Can someone shed some light on the specifications of the UHD display in ASUS ROG G501JW-DS71?

Is the UHD matte or glossy? On Newegg's Q&A section, LJ L says the monitor's model number is Samsung LTN156FL02-101, which is glossy. But the product description on Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232427) and Asus Store (http://store.asus.com/us/item/201503AM110000043/A23719) says the display is matte.
Edit: Marshall said earlier that the screen is matte (Source (https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?59083-ASUS-Republic-of-Gamers-Announces-G501-Ultra-Slim-Gaming-Laptop&p=485522&viewfull=1#post485522))
Furthermore, I would like to see lab results of the monitor, and having the correct model number would be very helpful. Laptopmedia.com (http://laptopmedia.com/review/asus-rog-g501-review-the-new-standard-for-next-generation-gaming-laptops/) reviewed the FHD version and said the FHD version is Samsung 156HL01-102. If the ROG G501 UHD monitor has been shipped with other models, then perhaps there already exists lab results to look up.

This laptop may be an upgrade to my Sony svz13114gxx. Thanks in advance!

Earlier in this post, I was asking about whether the display is matte and whether there are lab results for the display. There were some responses (#199, #200, #201) to this query but no firm answers. Well, my G501JW-DS71 arrived recently, so I can answer those questions and hopefully people find it helpful.

CPU-Z reports the monitor IS is SDC434B. My Google-fu says that it is the same panel described here: http://www.ultrabookreview.com/7032-asus-zenbook-nx501/. My G501 display is matte, not glossy as mentioned in that review.

Re #215, I actually use 1920 x 1080 resolution on this UHD with 125% scaling, mainly for productivity reasons. I may try 4k movies later but don't know where to find one for free. Maybe when Microsoft fixes the Windows UI scaling issue, I will switch to UHD resolution.

Re #214 about pulse-width modulation. Generally I prefer to dial down my monitor brightness to reduce eye strain. On this laptop the fn-F5/F6 keys change the brightness by 10% increments. While indoors on a cloudy afternoon, I can barely discern the flicker at 0% and 10%, but that is because I was looking for it. Personally, my minimum brightness is 20%, and I use flux and set the color temperature to 6000K during daytime and 5000K during night (according to flux's numbers).

Also, since this was also asked several times (https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?60691-Possible-to-Remove-G501-case-badge-rog-logo) ... the ROG logo on the lid is not backlight. It's a simple logo. No, I do not plan on prying it off, so I cannot comment on hiding it.

Additional tidbits:

Guild Wars 2 runs at around 40-45 fps on high everything, native sampling, 1920 x 1080, while running circles around R&D Waypoint (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Winterknell_Shore).

The hard drive was partitioned into 190 GB + 270 GB.

The sound is pretty good. Much better than Sony Vaio Z. Approximate idea: G501 20% ~ Vaio Z 50% volume. (there is more to quality than volume, but I don't know the audio terms)

The RAM is 798Mhz 11-11-11-28, if that means anything to anyone.

Personally I changed the Control Panel settings to disable action when pressing the power button to prevent an accident. I tried to hard-shutdown the computer by long-pressing it, and it works (the computer did shut down). But wow, why is the END button embedded into the number pad? I would have preferred its own button, or at least dual-locate it by fn-up/down/left/right.

The keyboard light (fn-F3/F4) has 4 levels. Off, low, medium, high.

Does anyone know how to re-program the calculator fn macro (fn-numpad Enter)? I prefer to launch my own like SpeedCrunch. This is my first ROG so I don't know the OEM software well.

Oh, also on CPU-Z's website's download page, they provide 2 options ... the plain vanilla CPU-Z or the ROG branded CPU-Z. Well, the left 1/3 of the GUI of the ROG branded CPU-Z was cut off, so I switched to the plain vanilla version.

Hope this helps!

J82
05-02-2015, 12:45 AM
Earlier in this post, I was asking about whether the display is matte and whether there are lab results for the display. There were some responses (#199, #200, #201) to this query but no firm answers. Well, my G501JW-DS71 arrived recently, so I can answer those questions and hopefully people find it helpful.

CPU-Z reports the monitor IS is SDC434B. My Google-fu says that it is the same panel described here: http://www.ultrabookreview.com/7032-asus-zenbook-nx501/. My G501 display is matte, not glossy as mentioned in that review.

Re #215, I actually use 1920 x 1080 resolution on this UHD with 125% scaling, mainly for productivity reasons. I may try 4k movies later but don't know where to find one for free. Maybe when Microsoft fixes the Windows UI scaling issue, I will switch to UHD resolution.

Re #214 about pulse-width modulation. Generally I prefer to dial down my monitor brightness to reduce eye strain. On this laptop the fn-F5/F6 keys change the brightness by 10% increments. While indoors on a cloudy afternoon, I can barely discern the flicker at 0% and 10%, but that is because I was looking for it. Personally, my minimum brightness is 20%, and I use flux and set the color temperature to 6000K during daytime and 5000K during night (according to flux's numbers).

Also, since this was also asked several times (https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?60691-Possible-to-Remove-G501-case-badge-rog-logo) ... the ROG logo on the lid is not backlight. It's a simple logo. No, I do not plan on prying it off, so I cannot comment on hiding it.

Additional tidbits:

Guild Wars 2 runs at around 40-45 fps on high everything, native sampling, 1920 x 1080, while running circles around R&D Waypoint (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Winterknell_Shore).

The hard drive was partitioned into 190 GB + 270 GB.

The sound is pretty good. Much better than Sony Vaio Z. Approximate idea: G501 20% ~ Vaio Z 50% volume. (there is more to quality than volume, but I don't know the audio terms)

The RAM is 798Mhz 11-11-11-28, if that means anything to anyone.

Personally I changed the Control Panel settings to disable action when pressing the power button to prevent an accident. I tried to hard-shutdown the computer by long-pressing it, and it works (the computer did shut down). But wow, why is the END button embedded into the number pad? I would have preferred its own button, or at least dual-locate it by fn-up/down/left/right.

The keyboard light (fn-F3/F4) has 4 levels. Off, low, medium, high.

Does anyone know how to re-program the calculator fn macro (fn-numpad Enter)? I prefer to launch my own like SpeedCrunch. This is my first ROG so I don't know the OEM software well.

Oh, also on CPU-Z's website's download page, they provide 2 options ... the plain vanilla CPU-Z or the ROG branded CPU-Z. Well, the left 1/3 of the GUI of the ROG branded CPU-Z was cut off, so I switched to the plain vanilla version.

Hope this helps!


Great help Cajun! I'll be switching laptops from Sony too from my Vaio SVS. Have a question for you.

When you're set at 1080p, are you having issues with scaling when opening PDFs like adobe or other programs (program boxes appear in windowed format with super small font for example). Or web pages appearing out of sorts?

Mandolin
05-02-2015, 12:47 AM
Great feedback...


On the 4K video, have you tried youtube ? Quite a bit of 4K being put on there recently... I am keen to understand the issue mentioned by that Amazon review re the 960m. If you go to the Nvidia website "4k" is definitely not included in the Product Info section (you need to slect 970m for it to appear) although if you look at the "High Resolution Display Support" under Features it says this:


High Resolution Display Support
Able to drive the industry’s largest and highest resolution displays up to 4K resolution and with support for High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP)3

Confusing...

So, any experience appreciated....

cajun_azn
05-02-2015, 01:43 AM
Great help Cajun! I'll be switching laptops from Sony too from my Vaio SVS. Have a question for you.

When you're set at 1080p, are you having issues with scaling when opening PDFs like adobe or other programs (program boxes appear in windowed format with super small font for example). Or web pages appearing out of sorts?

Well, I am no expert so here I try my best to explain.

The short answer is ... I find 125% scaling on Windows to appear fine on the OS GUI. This percentage is the only number in Windows that affect the issue you are describing. Keeping this percentage close to 100% will help you avoid instances where different programs use different invocations of GUI elements. Therefore, you downsampling the resolution from 4K to 2K divides this percentage by 2 and drastically helps in avoiding this issue on Windows software GUI's. See this (http://www.anandtech.com/show/7939/scaling-windows-the-dpi-arms-race) for details. From what I hear, some Adobe products are notorious for bypassing WIndows GUI API, so its GUI remains at 100% while everything in the outside world is, say at at much higher percentage.

However, webpages have their own scaling due to years of constant evolution of web standards. Firefox has dpi-aware scaling so web pages appear fine. (Chrome has it too, I think) Webmasters want more traffic so they are incentivized to maintain their webpages to be readable as technology progresses. This evolution is technologically assisted by standards in web page design, and the social-ness of people visiting webpages keeps everything up to date. Therefore this issue is less likely on webpages.

In summary, the issues you are describing is a generic issue, not specific to G501JY :cool:

cajun_azn
05-02-2015, 02:50 AM
Great feedback...


On the 4K video, have you tried youtube ? Quite a bit of 4K being put on there recently... I am keen to understand the issue mentioned by that Amazon review re the 960m. If you go to the Nvidia website "4k" is definitely not included in the Product Info section (you need to slect 970m for it to appear) although if you look at the "High Resolution Display Support" under Features it says this:



Confusing...

So, any experience appreciated....

I am still learning so apologies for excessive detail. I downloaded The Dark Knight Rises 2015-04-01 4K trailer (http://www.hd-trailers.net/movie/the-dark-knight-rises/) and tried playing with 2 software: VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html) and K-Lite Standard (http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm).

Experiment 1: VLC plain vanilla installation: some occasional framerate stutter, image still visible when renderd

Experiment 2: VLC + go to Simple Preferences -> Input/Codecs -> Hardware-accelerated decoding = Automatic: bad stutter and huge green blocks as if it was not finished rendering

Experiment 3: MPC plain vanilla installation (GPU acceleration is enabled): smooth sailing

In short, you need to enable GPU acceleration for video playback on 4K.

EDIT: Additional note: all video playback was performed on 4K resolution, not 2K.

Sargatanas
05-02-2015, 04:55 AM
These are Euro prices, I think.
Yes you are right - prices are in €.
The used panel is a SAMSUNG 156HL01-102

I'm testing it at the moment.
But the announcement "G501: The Coolest & Quietest, Thin & Light 15-inch Gaming Laptop, With 4K, PCIE SSD" is kinda a joke in my opinion.

My wife likes to play online games like Aion, Guild Wars 2 and so on. The coolest and quitest compared with what? An Iphone with a built in 960m? The sound of the fans is a acceptable - quite is something else.

The 960m temperature at load is around 75-77°C while gaming, no throttling.
The 4720HQ (yeah in Europe we won't even be able to get the higher clocked CPU) is around 80°C. Including thermal throttling on all cores, clocking it down to 1400mhz on all cores.

Mandolin
05-07-2015, 09:22 AM
I am still learning so apologies for excessive detail. I downloaded The Dark Knight Rises 2015-04-01 4K trailer (http://www.hd-trailers.net/movie/the-dark-knight-rises/) and tried playing with 2 software: VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html) and K-Lite Standard (http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm).

Experiment 1: VLC plain vanilla installation: some occasional framerate stutter, image still visible when renderd

Experiment 2: VLC + go to Simple Preferences -> Input/Codecs -> Hardware-accelerated decoding = Automatic: bad stutter and huge green blocks as if it was not finished rendering

Experiment 3: MPC plain vanilla installation (GPU acceleration is enabled): smooth sailing

In short, you need to enable GPU acceleration for video playback on 4K.

EDIT: Additional note: all video playback was performed on 4K resolution, not 2K.

many thanks for this.

I took in a 4k sample and tried it on MPC...choppy... but when I selected GPU acceleration as to DXVA2 (copyback) fixed the stuttering.

Interestingly, the wmp built into 8.1 works fine too.

BUT, when I tried to play 'tears of steel' which you can download in 4K DCP 4096 x 2160 resolution, MPC HC cannot handle it and the playback stutters severely with random audio. wmp wont play it at all. I guess this one is a challenge for codecs at the moment...

esfomeado
05-08-2015, 08:38 AM
New review: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-G501JW-Notebook-Review.141745.0.html

Skjoldur
05-08-2015, 04:40 PM
Seems to be official: In Germany there will be

- no Thunderbolt
- no 96whrs battery
- no PCIe m.2 SSD
- no UX501 with touch

The 96whrs battery would have been my main reason to buy either G501 or UX501. Now you can keep both, Asus.

ShenLong
05-08-2015, 07:16 PM
Very dissapointed

Alboma
05-24-2015, 01:36 AM
My only constructive remark is if ASUS can consider using GTX970M in future thin models. GTX960M with this price just doesn't cut it. I already move on to get myself a MSI GS60 Ghost Pro instead, (GTX970M, FHD) for less (Ok there is still tax involved but overall it is worth to get a GTX970M one)
In fact the lack of info for Canada release is the main reason to drive me away from getting a G501. Sorry ASUS.

derp_derpington
05-29-2015, 07:30 PM
Everyone needs to let this whole 960 vs 970 argument go, I'm sure the design team comprehensibly tested a 970 in the 501 and decided for whatever reason it didn't work. Yes the blade has a 970, but it also has well documented overheating problems, probably the same reason ASUS opted for a 960, at this price I'd rather longevity over increased gaming performance.

I doubt ASUS will put a higher powered GPU of this generation in this current chassis as it would require a totally overhauled cooling system . . .

If we were to talk saught after configurations, a DS-71 with a FHD screen is one to look for, great SSD and the full sized battery.